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Re: Granted

g4girhb0 <ian.frith@...>
 

Good Morning Bob,
 
Thanks very much for the up-date, pleased it is being looked at. I can appreciate it will be no mean feat! If I can assist in any way  please don't hesitate to ask.
 
Glad you have other interests, wouldn't life be dull without them, just finished my Friday interest of swabbing the decks etc etc!!
 
Please let me know if it will come to fruition.
 
73
 
 
Ian G4GIR
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <k4cy@...>
Sent: 16/09/2021 21:46:09
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

It's under review. First we scope out the project, then we flow chart it, then we code it. DXCC is especially challanging because of the numerous sources of data. And the award rules, to me, are akin to Reverse Polish Notations ... Hardly the way my mind is wired.
And, despite popular belief, I do have other interests other than Logger32. If you didn't already know, my last QSO was more than 12 years ago. That should give you some indication of my enthusiasm level for things Ham Radio.  SeventyThree(s).
On 09/16/2021 4:37 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Hello Bob
Any thoughts on getting the awards tables corrected?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: g4girhb0 via groups.io < ian.frith@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 15/09/2021 14:38:33
Subject: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Hello Bob,
Yes Bob I agree, you can use the DXCC_MIXED TABLE to see your single band countries status but it should be re-named  DXCC_SINGLE_BANDS.
However you cannot use the DXCC_MIXED TABLE for the DXCC_MIXED award! The DXCC_MIXED TABLE should ONLY have ONE GRANTED slot per Country. Like wise for the CW and PHONE DXCC Awards.
This is what Pete and I were confirming with you.
Could I ask you to consider making  these changes to reflect this?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: G4GIR via groups.io < i.frith@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 14/09/2021 21:46:57
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

In which DXCC Table?
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
To: < hamlogger@groups.io>, G4GIR via groups.io < i.frith@...>
Sent: 14/09/2021 19:56:25
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

For single band DXCCs, simply read appropriate DXCC column. 73.
On 09/14/2021 2:49 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Hello Bob,
I guess you refer to the AWARDS, section?
If so,
Add a new drop down item "DXCC_SINGLE BAND" in the AWARDS drop down , ADD new Single band entries in the Set/show awards credits, for QSL and LOTW Submitted and Granted  i.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc for all the valid DXCC bands.
Not sure why the programme is adding DXCC_MIXED to most of the QSO's, but if you can find out why!! Would be good to stop it.
I am at the moment running my log through ADIF Master to remove all the DXCC_MIXED flags so I can get a clean Log that only shows Confirmed and Worked, then intend to Scraper it to get the Granted's in that I can, then manually do the ones that DXCC don't have records for on LOTW.
73
Ian
G4GIR
p.s how many hours sleep do you get!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 14/09/2021 18:19:47
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

OK Ian, all caught up. What fo you need? 73.
On 09/14/2021 4:05 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Ok Bob,
Thanks, If I create a new log, export my log from DXBase, import it to L32, will any of the QSO's be set to Granted in L32?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 14/09/2021 08:11:08
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Not in the immediate future. Too many irons in the fire. 73.
On 09/14/2021 3:03 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Morning Bob
Do you think you will be carrying out some re-work in the Awards area?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Main Broadband < i.frith@...>
Sent: 13/09/2021 09:00:46
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Hello Bob
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
Yes that is correct as Pete has said, also in that first submission for a QSO with 1A0 on 40m, it will count for DXCC_SINGLE BAND 40m, any further submission of a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m, should be rejected.
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
Again I believe what you say does happen in L32, but as we agree that is not how it should be. The shot below for 1A0 is how DXCC_MXD should look, except the 60m and 13cm aren't valid bands for any DXCC  Award. I manually changed the 1A0 entries to reflect this but as you can see every country in the shot needs changing!!! Not quite sure how I can go about that. I do have a back up before I started to sort out the GRANTED slots which maybe half correct!!
I think probably all it needs is new selections in the Set/show awards credit dialogue? and a new drop down selection in the DXCC AWARDS TABLE, say DXCC_SINGLE BAND and DXCC_CHALLENGE?
Hope this helps.
73
Ian G4GIR
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73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 22:16:39
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, please confirm my understanding of what you said ... Is this correct ...
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
OK, what happens if you now submit another CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m? What if any, credits are granted?
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 3:59 PM g4girhb0 via groups.io <ian.frith@...> wrote:
Wish I could, the ole Prostate giving me gyp!
Cheers mate.
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 20:07:17
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I can still pee as high up the bathroom was as I did when I was 16. However, when I had to clean my own shoes, my competitive instinct was dampened (no pun intended). SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 2:47 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Bob,
Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits.
I guess for as to why, this is a function of mans competitive instinct!!! As for how, The process is clearly documented on the ARRL DXCC web site.
But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award.
It is credited for both, but only ONCE, If the first 1A0 QSO on 20mtr CW is submitted it will be GRANTED for Mixed/CW and 20mtr, if you then submit another card for 1A0 on 40mtr CW it will only be credited for 40mtr not CW or MIXED.
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
Can you send me a link to that statement please. It sounds correct, i.e any valid country on any valid mode, is 1 credit for mixed DXCC, but that country won't count again on any other mode or Band for MIXED DXCC.
I think what I would like to see is additional drop down selections in the DXCC Awards table, I.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc, etc for all the Single Band Awards, that would remove any ambiguities between CW/MXD/PHONE or DATA. Of course it would need the same selections in the Set/show awards credits, so you could select the correct GRANTED Flag.
Just my thoughts Bob, wonder if anyone else has any constructive comments?
Thanks for the brilliant software.
73 Ian G4GIR
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 17:17:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits. But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award. SeventyThree(s).
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
On 09/12/2021 5:25 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Connected to this subject, Am I right in assuming the following.
To check my Single band DXCC Granted QSO's I use the Mixed DXCC Awards Table, which should reflect the QSO's held in LOTW for each band, indicated by the highlighted CALL SIGN I have set up.
However as this is the Mixed DXCC Table, how can I see which QSO is Granted for the Mixed DXCC Award? i.e there is only 1 QSO for e.g 1A0 that will count for Mixed DXCC and the DXCC Mode it was credited for, but as all slots are GRANTED I can't tell which was the MIXED QSO!
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: g4girhb0 via groups.io < ian.frith@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 20:04:01
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Thanks Bob
I knew how to get to the set/show menu, what I found was that when I checked DXCC-CW under QSL GRANTED for a QSO with G4XXX applied it and exited it, then refreshed the AWARD screen it still showed the SLOT as CONFIRMED not GRANTED, what I think I have to do is  check DXCC-CW and DXCC-MIXED? Seems odd when I already have a MIXED GRANTED CREDIT with G4AAA. Is this the correct procedure?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 17:55:35
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

To get to the set/show menu, you click on a QSO in the logbook entry window. If that QSO was on 80m, you add whatever credit to 80m. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/11/2021 12:21 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Hello Garry,
The beer and yours were very nice!!
But, today I have come across another problem.
In the manual it states L32 can track DXCC single band awards, but when I use Set/show awards credits, there is no option to set i.e a QSO Granted for 12m or 80m!
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Hinson < Gary@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 10/09/2021 19:59:21
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Well done mate!

 

Have one for me!

 

73

G.

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 11 September 2021 06:00
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Garry

 

Thought I would let you know I have sorted the Granted status out on all the DXCC awards, using the method I mentioned and the DXCC documentation from 1980 onward, so glad I kept all the records.

 

Time for a Beer I think.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 22:03:42

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Thanks for the reply Garry,

 

Yes Clublog is updating the records where it can, i.e with the records held on LOTW that match my log with correct dates and callsigns.

 

I agree that the DXCC team would have checked the cards for complete validity, however they didn't enter all the details.

 

Here is a shot of my CW DXCC record, note the DXCC number codes, click on e.g. Monaco, and the next shot is what you get. So this is what Club Log gets and what scraper downloads, hence all the errors in the import, they just can't match.

 

As you say the years match but the dates have to match to be able to update to G.

 

I have found a work around though.

 

As my DXBase Log agrees with LOTW as far as the totals are concerned, I have exported all credited DXCC Records as an ADIF file,  converted that to a Text file, imported that to Excel,  deleted all the irrelevant columns, added the | symbols in the relevant places, converted the dates to what L32 needs, saved it as a text file, removed the TAB delimiters. I now have a Text file that looks like a scraper file.

 

When I run it in L32, it updated around 2000 QSO's but some 700 odd QSO's were rejected.

 

So got some work to sort out the rejected QSO's.

 

I can't believe nobody else has had this problem?

 

Still it all helps to pass the time!!!

 

Give me your thoughts please.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 20:14:14

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Hi Ian,

 

Club Log should update its records if you run the LoTW Sync function, and give it a little time to do its thing.  If that isn’t working properly, please contact Club Log support.  Michael G7VJR and team is very responsive.

 

QSL cards that were submitted for DXCC credit long ago – before the online application process was invented – were processed rapidly by an overworked DXCC team taking shortcuts to keep the backlog under control.  As far as I know, they did check and record the DX callsigns, bands and modes from the cards, plus the years, but I’m not entirely sure about that.  You should be able to check the recorded data through the DXCC screens on LoTW, and I would expect those same details to be exported in the DXCC ADIF exports.

 

ARRL Scraper is one of Bob’s brainwaves.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 23:07
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Gary,

 

Yes I have done the Club log sync, before I tried the scraper and it doesn't up date the QSO's only the latest new granted QSO's,

 

For instance on 160m L32 shows 14 QSO's Granted out of 141 Countries confirmed. 141 is my awarded total on 160m. Clublog shows the same, 141 C and 14 V.

 

So looks like Club Log isn't getting the info from LOTW?

 

My 30m Total was only 17 Granted, in L32, aafter modifying the ARRL scraper file and importing to L32 I now have 239 G and 273 C, so I guess the missing 34 are old QSO's which LOTW has no Call details for, therefore I guess its a manual trawl through?

 

As for the ARRL SCRAPER.EXE, I tried to find a newer version but nothing, Is it an ARRL file or Bobs or ?

 

Cheers

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 00:44:09

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


That’s a few decades in Internet Time! 😊

 

I’m not sure how I got it, but mine is 7 months old:

 

Aside from using an ancient ARRL Scraper, have you tried the Club Log route, Ian?  In essence:

1.      Get your log reasonably up-to-date in Club Log

2.      Trigger Club Log’s LoTW Sync function … and QRX a little while for it to grab the info and update your Club Log log accordingly

3.      Use Logger32’s File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log)  function to get the info from Club log and update your local log

 

Overall it is quicker and more reliable than the Scraper approach for me i.e. about 30 mins to get all my ~61k LoTW confirmations:

 

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 08:22
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

1.0.16, DATED 2015!! Guess its a wee bit old?

 

73

 

Ian

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob <k4cy@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 08/09/2021 21:07:48

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


... and what is the version number of the ARRL scraper.exe? SeventyThree(s).

On 09/08/2021 3:58 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:

Hello All

I have tried to update my QSO's to Granted using ARRL Scraper.

I get the file down loaded ok around 3000 QSO's

Try to Import into L32 but every QSO is rejected.

When I start the import I get a message in the box saying Waiting, Valid Callsigns for this Certificate are: G4GIR, 0 QSO's WILL BE REDIRECTED TO CORRECT ENTRIES IN THIS LOG BOOK.

The end result is 3598 QSO's not updated.

Have I missed something?

A lot of the QSO's have no Call Signs in the down loaded file due to the Paper Submissions back in the 70's/80's so understand that but others should be ok.

Thanks

Ian G4GIR

 


Re: JTDX on-top ...

Peter Eckersberger
 

Hi Bob,

In the meantime I'm convinced it was me in making a mistake in interpreting the manuals text. For one reason or an other I thought for "parallel logging" only the "TCP"-feature has to be active. Which means in other words no UDP needed at all. Just starting Logger32 and in a second step starting JTDX e.g. by its own program icon.

BUT ... For starting JTDX on top one needs the UDP-bandmap and its start menus. By doing it that way everything is working fine. Sorry for the inconvenience stealing your precious time.


73 de Peter, OE3EPW


Re: Error when updating to 4.0.276 or 277

Gary Hinson <Gary@...>
 

Hi Jack.

 

I had the same error – or something very similar anyway.

 

I ran the update again and that time it worked.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jack VanSciver
Sent: 17 September 2021 14:57
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: [hamlogger] Error when updating to 4.0.276 or 277

 

I have been unable to update to v 4.0.276 or 4.0.277 from v 4.0.275.  The process stops with error message: "Deleting C:\Logger32\Rollback files

Unable to delete files from C:\Logger32\Rollback".


Error when updating to 4.0.276 or 277

Jack VanSciver
 

I have been unable to update to v 4.0.276 or 4.0.277 from v 4.0.275.  The process stops with error message: "Deleting C:\Logger32\Rollback files
Unable to delete files from C:\Logger32\Rollback".


Re: Logger32 on XP

Bruce (VE3GBC)
 

looking for v3.50.367


Re: No Transmit for RTTY using IC-7300 and MMVARI

Rick Ellison
 

Why are you using DTR in JTDX???

Here are the settings you should be using..

 

No issues running JTDX like this and MMVARI using RTS in the USB Send leying

 

73 Rick

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io [mailto:hamlogger@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Spears
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 5:37 PM
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] No Transmit for RTTY using IC-7300 and MMVARI

 

Rick. When I turn USB send Keying to Off, JTDX works fine.But not MMVARI.
When I set USB Send to DTR JTDX works but not MMVARI.
When I set USB Sent to RTS MMVARI works but not JTDX.

BTW I can live with that. And this is not any emergency so don't feel pressure to get back to me today.
I will send screen shot but I think this is the issue now. But at least I can use both now with just a minor setting : USB Send Keying to off when I use JTDX.
Rick


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Re: LoTW sync via Club Log

Gary Hinson <Gary@...>
 

> to investigate I'd need to see the LoTW records from Clublog.txt file that contains the JH1HFE record.

 

Errrrrrm.

 

Searching C:\Logger32\LoTW records from ClubLog.txt for that callsign draws a blank:

 

 

So, it seems Club Log didn’t send Logger32 that QSO info.   No wonder it didn’t get processed into my log!

 

On the off-chance that it was a simple timing issue, I’ve just run Logger32’s LoTW/Club Log sync again, with the same result: Club Log refuses to divulge its knowledge of the LoTW confirmation for that QSO. 

 

I’ll bat this back to the Club Log support crew.  Perhaps they can prise the information out of Club Log.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: 17 September 2021 01:29
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] LoTW sync via Club Log

 

Gary, to investigate I'd need to see the LoTW records from Clublog.txt file that contains the JH1HFE record. SeventyThree(s)

On 09/15/2021 8:17 PM Gary Hinson <gary@...> wrote:

 

 

Errrrr, I was over-excited: we are no longer getting the red warning message, but the LoTW sync via Club Log still isn’t working properly.

 

Club Log knows about QSOs that have been matched and confirmed on LoTW, but isn’t passing those details to Logger32 e.g. after synchronising Logger32, Club Log and LoTW:

 

Here are my recent QSOs on LoTW:

 

 

This one with JH1HFE has been matched and confirmed already:

 

 

On Club Log it is shown as confirmed:

 

 

In  my log, that QSO remains stubbornly unconfirmed:

 

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Hinson
Sent: 16 September 2021 07:18
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] LoTW sync via Club Log

 

Inspired by your positive report, Ian, I simply gave it another go … and it worked!

 

 

Hey thanks everyone.  It looks like - having been hammered by all our tests - whatever wasn’t working is now running properly again.  We must have knocked the bits back into place, or something.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of g4girhb0 via groups.io
Sent: 16 September 2021 01:45
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] LoTW sync via Club Log

 

Just done a Clublog sync worked ok down loaded 5 new mode/band updates.

 

73

Ian G4GIR

 

----- Original Message -----

From: <sp2ewq@...>

Sent: 15/09/2021 14:05:52

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] LoTW sync via Club Log


 

 

Hi,

 

Exactly the same thing over here:

 

Best regards,

Alec

 

 

 

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Data: 15.09.2021 14:46:36

Temat: Re: [hamlogger] LoTW sync via Club Log

 

Gary

 

I tried your steps and get same error.

 

73 de LU3MAM

 

El mar, 14 sept 2021 a las 21:55, Gary Hinson (<Gary@...>) escribió:

Can anyone who uses Club Log and LoTW with Logger32 help us test Logger32’s Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log) function, please?

I’m getting failures suggesting something is broken, somewhere. 

In order to test it:

1.       Get Club Log up to date with your recent LoTW confirmations using the <LoTW sync> button on Club Log’s left side menu.

2.       Wait a while for the sync to complete.  If you have selected “Every upload” under the Club Log settings page, you should get an email when it completes.  Otherwise, try waiting half an hour to an hour.

3.       In Logger32 open File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log).

4.       Select either <Last 3 Months only> or <Last 1 Month only>, then click <Start>.

On my system, I get a ‘Nothing to download’ red message every time:

If you don’t get the red error (or some other one), please check whether recent LoTW confirmations are duly recorded in your Logger32 log, as expected.  

5.       Let us know how you got on!

73 & TNX
Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 

 


Re: No Transmit for RTTY using IC-7300 and MMVARI

Dave Colliau
 

Using the remote jack for the cat and FT-8 eliminates this issue and you can freely run MMTTY or MMVARI .
Dave N8DC

On 09/16/2021 5:36 PM Rick Spears <rnspears@...> wrote:
 
 
Rick. When I turn USB send Keying to Off, JTDX works fine.But not MMVARI.
When I set USB Send to DTR JTDX works but not MMVARI.
When I set USB Sent to RTS MMVARI works but not JTDX.

BTW I can live with that. And this is not any emergency so don't feel pressure to get back to me today.
I will send screen shot but I think this is the issue now. But at least I can use both now with just a minor setting : USB Send Keying to off when I use JTDX.
Rick


Re: No Transmit for RTTY using IC-7300 and MMVARI

Rick Spears W4HRA
 

Rick. When I turn USB send Keying to Off, JTDX works fine.But not MMVARI.
When I set USB Send to DTR JTDX works but not MMVARI.
When I set USB Sent to RTS MMVARI works but not JTDX.

BTW I can live with that. And this is not any emergency so don't feel pressure to get back to me today.
I will send screen shot but I think this is the issue now. But at least I can use both now with just a minor setting : USB Send Keying to off when I use JTDX.
Rick


Re: No Transmit for RTTY using IC-7300 and MMVARI

Rick Ellison
 

Send me a screenshot of your JTDX radio settings and I can see what it is..

 

73 Rick

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io [mailto:hamlogger@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Spears
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 4:36 PM
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] No Transmit for RTTY using IC-7300 and MMVARI

 

Rick. Hate to spoil my celebration but now JTDX goes straight into transmit when it loads. Just the opposite of what the issue was with MMVARI. None of the obvious functions like halt send will stop it from transmitting. Have to close JTDX. Any thoughts on which setting I changed my be the culprit?

Rick W4HRA


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Re: No Transmit for RTTY using IC-7300 and MMVARI

Dave Colliau
 

Well its a port issue . RTS/DTR all that comes into play . Changing stuff in the rig could cause that also. My 7300 is in the truck as a mobile so I cant really help right now but again buy the other cable and once its setup you will have no issues. It eliminates the change this and change that back to get stuff to work .
Dave N8DC

On 09/16/2021 4:35 PM Rick Spears <rnspears@...> wrote:
 
 
Rick. Hate to spoil my celebration but now JTDX goes straight into transmit when it loads. Just the opposite of what the issue was with MMVARI. None of the obvious functions like halt send will stop it from transmitting. Have to close JTDX. Any thoughts on which setting I changed my be the culprit?

Rick W4HRA


Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Bob
 

It's under review. First we scope out the project, then we flow chart it, then we code it. DXCC is especially challanging because of the numerous sources of data. And the award rules, to me, are akin to Reverse Polish Notations ... Hardly the way my mind is wired.
 
And, despite popular belief, I do have other interests other than Logger32. If you didn't already know, my last QSO was more than 12 years ago. That should give you some indication of my enthusiasm level for things Ham Radio.  SeventyThree(s).

On 09/16/2021 4:37 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Hello Bob
 
Any thoughts on getting the awards tables corrected?
 
73
Ian G4GIR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: g4girhb0 via groups.io < ian.frith@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 15/09/2021 14:38:33
Subject: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Hello Bob,
 
Yes Bob I agree, you can use the DXCC_MIXED TABLE to see your single band countries status but it should be re-named  DXCC_SINGLE_BANDS.
 
 
However you cannot use the DXCC_MIXED TABLE for the DXCC_MIXED award! The DXCC_MIXED TABLE should ONLY have ONE GRANTED slot per Country. Like wise for the CW and PHONE DXCC Awards.
 
This is what Pete and I were confirming with you.
 
Could I ask you to consider making  these changes to reflect this?
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: G4GIR via groups.io < i.frith@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 14/09/2021 21:46:57
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

In which DXCC Table?
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
To: < hamlogger@groups.io>, G4GIR via groups.io < i.frith@...>
Sent: 14/09/2021 19:56:25
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

For single band DXCCs, simply read appropriate DXCC column. 73.
On 09/14/2021 2:49 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Hello Bob,
 
I guess you refer to the AWARDS, section?
 
If so,
Add a new drop down item "DXCC_SINGLE BAND" in the AWARDS drop down , ADD new Single band entries in the Set/show awards credits, for QSL and LOTW Submitted and Granted  i.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc for all the valid DXCC bands.
 
Not sure why the programme is adding DXCC_MIXED to most of the QSO's, but if you can find out why!! Would be good to stop it.
 
I am at the moment running my log through ADIF Master to remove all the DXCC_MIXED flags so I can get a clean Log that only shows Confirmed and Worked, then intend to Scraper it to get the Granted's in that I can, then manually do the ones that DXCC don't have records for on LOTW.
 
73
 
Ian
 
G4GIR
 
p.s how many hours sleep do you get!!!
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 14/09/2021 18:19:47
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

OK Ian, all caught up. What fo you need? 73.
On 09/14/2021 4:05 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Ok Bob,
 
Thanks, If I create a new log, export my log from DXBase, import it to L32, will any of the QSO's be set to Granted in L32?
 
73
Ian G4GIR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 14/09/2021 08:11:08
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Not in the immediate future. Too many irons in the fire. 73.
On 09/14/2021 3:03 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Morning Bob
 
Do you think you will be carrying out some re-work in the Awards area?
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Main Broadband < i.frith@...>
Sent: 13/09/2021 09:00:46
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Hello Bob
 
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
 
Yes that is correct as Pete has said, also in that first submission for a QSO with 1A0 on 40m, it will count for DXCC_SINGLE BAND 40m, any further submission of a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m, should be rejected.
 
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
 
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
 
Again I believe what you say does happen in L32, but as we agree that is not how it should be. The shot below for 1A0 is how DXCC_MXD should look, except the 60m and 13cm aren't valid bands for any DXCC  Award. I manually changed the 1A0 entries to reflect this but as you can see every country in the shot needs changing!!! Not quite sure how I can go about that. I do have a back up before I started to sort out the GRANTED slots which maybe half correct!!
 
I think probably all it needs is new selections in the Set/show awards credit dialogue? and a new drop down selection in the DXCC AWARDS TABLE, say DXCC_SINGLE BAND and DXCC_CHALLENGE?
 
Hope this helps.
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
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73
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 22:16:39
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, please confirm my understanding of what you said ... Is this correct ...
 
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
 
OK, what happens if you now submit another CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m? What if any, credits are granted?
 
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
 
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 3:59 PM g4girhb0 via groups.io <ian.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Wish I could, the ole Prostate giving me gyp!
 
Cheers mate.
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 20:07:17
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I can still pee as high up the bathroom was as I did when I was 16. However, when I had to clean my own shoes, my competitive instinct was dampened (no pun intended). SeventyThree(s).
 
On 09/12/2021 2:47 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Bob,
 
Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits.
 
I guess for as to why, this is a function of mans competitive instinct!!! As for how, The process is clearly documented on the ARRL DXCC web site.
 
But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award.
 
It is credited for both, but only ONCE, If the first 1A0 QSO on 20mtr CW is submitted it will be GRANTED for Mixed/CW and 20mtr, if you then submit another card for 1A0 on 40mtr CW it will only be credited for 40mtr not CW or MIXED.
 
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
 
Can you send me a link to that statement please. It sounds correct, i.e any valid country on any valid mode, is 1 credit for mixed DXCC, but that country won't count again on any other mode or Band for MIXED DXCC.
 
I think what I would like to see is additional drop down selections in the DXCC Awards table, I.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc, etc for all the Single Band Awards, that would remove any ambiguities between CW/MXD/PHONE or DATA. Of course it would need the same selections in the Set/show awards credits, so you could select the correct GRANTED Flag.
 
Just my thoughts Bob, wonder if anyone else has any constructive comments?
 
 
Thanks for the brilliant software.
 
73 Ian G4GIR
.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 17:17:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits. But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award. SeventyThree(s).
 
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
On 09/12/2021 5:25 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Connected to this subject, Am I right in assuming the following.
 
To check my Single band DXCC Granted QSO's I use the Mixed DXCC Awards Table, which should reflect the QSO's held in LOTW for each band, indicated by the highlighted CALL SIGN I have set up.
 
However as this is the Mixed DXCC Table, how can I see which QSO is Granted for the Mixed DXCC Award? i.e there is only 1 QSO for e.g 1A0 that will count for Mixed DXCC and the DXCC Mode it was credited for, but as all slots are GRANTED I can't tell which was the MIXED QSO!
 
73
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: g4girhb0 via groups.io < ian.frith@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 20:04:01
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Thanks Bob
 
I knew how to get to the set/show menu, what I found was that when I checked DXCC-CW under QSL GRANTED for a QSO with G4XXX applied it and exited it, then refreshed the AWARD screen it still showed the SLOT as CONFIRMED not GRANTED, what I think I have to do is  check DXCC-CW and DXCC-MIXED? Seems odd when I already have a MIXED GRANTED CREDIT with G4AAA. Is this the correct procedure?
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 17:55:35
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

To get to the set/show menu, you click on a QSO in the logbook entry window. If that QSO was on 80m, you add whatever credit to 80m. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/11/2021 12:21 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Hello Garry,
 
The beer and yours were very nice!!
 
But, today I have come across another problem.
 
In the manual it states L32 can track DXCC single band awards, but when I use Set/show awards credits, there is no option to set i.e a QSO Granted for 12m or 80m!
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Hinson < Gary@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 10/09/2021 19:59:21
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Well done mate!

 

Have one for me!

 

73

G.

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 11 September 2021 06:00
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Garry

 

Thought I would let you know I have sorted the Granted status out on all the DXCC awards, using the method I mentioned and the DXCC documentation from 1980 onward, so glad I kept all the records.

 

Time for a Beer I think.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 22:03:42

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Thanks for the reply Garry,

 

Yes Clublog is updating the records where it can, i.e with the records held on LOTW that match my log with correct dates and callsigns.

 

I agree that the DXCC team would have checked the cards for complete validity, however they didn't enter all the details.

 

Here is a shot of my CW DXCC record, note the DXCC number codes, click on e.g. Monaco, and the next shot is what you get. So this is what Club Log gets and what scraper downloads, hence all the errors in the import, they just can't match.

 

As you say the years match but the dates have to match to be able to update to G.

 

I have found a work around though.

 

As my DXBase Log agrees with LOTW as far as the totals are concerned, I have exported all credited DXCC Records as an ADIF file,  converted that to a Text file, imported that to Excel,  deleted all the irrelevant columns, added the | symbols in the relevant places, converted the dates to what L32 needs, saved it as a text file, removed the TAB delimiters. I now have a Text file that looks like a scraper file.

 

When I run it in L32, it updated around 2000 QSO's but some 700 odd QSO's were rejected.

 

So got some work to sort out the rejected QSO's.

 

I can't believe nobody else has had this problem?

 

Still it all helps to pass the time!!!

 

Give me your thoughts please.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 20:14:14

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Hi Ian,

 

Club Log should update its records if you run the LoTW Sync function, and give it a little time to do its thing.  If that isn’t working properly, please contact Club Log support.  Michael G7VJR and team is very responsive.

 

QSL cards that were submitted for DXCC credit long ago – before the online application process was invented – were processed rapidly by an overworked DXCC team taking shortcuts to keep the backlog under control.  As far as I know, they did check and record the DX callsigns, bands and modes from the cards, plus the years, but I’m not entirely sure about that.  You should be able to check the recorded data through the DXCC screens on LoTW, and I would expect those same details to be exported in the DXCC ADIF exports.

 

ARRL Scraper is one of Bob’s brainwaves.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 23:07
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Gary,

 

Yes I have done the Club log sync, before I tried the scraper and it doesn't up date the QSO's only the latest new granted QSO's,

 

For instance on 160m L32 shows 14 QSO's Granted out of 141 Countries confirmed. 141 is my awarded total on 160m. Clublog shows the same, 141 C and 14 V.

 

So looks like Club Log isn't getting the info from LOTW?

 

My 30m Total was only 17 Granted, in L32, aafter modifying the ARRL scraper file and importing to L32 I now have 239 G and 273 C, so I guess the missing 34 are old QSO's which LOTW has no Call details for, therefore I guess its a manual trawl through?

 

As for the ARRL SCRAPER.EXE, I tried to find a newer version but nothing, Is it an ARRL file or Bobs or ?

 

Cheers

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 00:44:09

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


That’s a few decades in Internet Time! 😊

 

I’m not sure how I got it, but mine is 7 months old:

 

Aside from using an ancient ARRL Scraper, have you tried the Club Log route, Ian?  In essence:

1.      Get your log reasonably up-to-date in Club Log

2.      Trigger Club Log’s LoTW Sync function … and QRX a little while for it to grab the info and update your Club Log log accordingly

3.      Use Logger32’s File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log)  function to get the info from Club log and update your local log

 

Overall it is quicker and more reliable than the Scraper approach for me i.e. about 30 mins to get all my ~61k LoTW confirmations:

 

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 08:22
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

1.0.16, DATED 2015!! Guess its a wee bit old?

 

73

 

Ian

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob <k4cy@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 08/09/2021 21:07:48

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


... and what is the version number of the ARRL scraper.exe? SeventyThree(s).

On 09/08/2021 3:58 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:

Hello All

I have tried to update my QSO's to Granted using ARRL Scraper.

I get the file down loaded ok around 3000 QSO's

Try to Import into L32 but every QSO is rejected.

When I start the import I get a message in the box saying Waiting, Valid Callsigns for this Certificate are: G4GIR, 0 QSO's WILL BE REDIRECTED TO CORRECT ENTRIES IN THIS LOG BOOK.

The end result is 3598 QSO's not updated.

Have I missed something?

A lot of the QSO's have no Call Signs in the down loaded file due to the Paper Submissions back in the 70's/80's so understand that but others should be ok.

Thanks

Ian G4GIR

 


Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

G4GIR
 

Hello Bob
 
Any thoughts on getting the awards tables corrected?
 
73
Ian G4GIR
 

----- Original Message -----
From: g4girhb0 via groups.io <ian.frith@...>
Sent: 15/09/2021 14:38:33
Subject: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Hello Bob,
 
Yes Bob I agree, you can use the DXCC_MIXED TABLE to see your single band countries status but it should be re-named  DXCC_SINGLE_BANDS.
 
 
However you cannot use the DXCC_MIXED TABLE for the DXCC_MIXED award! The DXCC_MIXED TABLE should ONLY have ONE GRANTED slot per Country. Like wise for the CW and PHONE DXCC Awards.
 
This is what Pete and I were confirming with you.
 
Could I ask you to consider making  these changes to reflect this?
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...>
Sent: 14/09/2021 21:46:57
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

In which DXCC Table?
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <k4cy@...>
To: <hamlogger@groups.io>, G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...>
Sent: 14/09/2021 19:56:25
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

For single band DXCCs, simply read appropriate DXCC column. 73.
On 09/14/2021 2:49 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Hello Bob,
I guess you refer to the AWARDS, section?
If so,
Add a new drop down item "DXCC_SINGLE BAND" in the AWARDS drop down , ADD new Single band entries in the Set/show awards credits, for QSL and LOTW Submitted and Granted  i.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc for all the valid DXCC bands.
Not sure why the programme is adding DXCC_MIXED to most of the QSO's, but if you can find out why!! Would be good to stop it.
I am at the moment running my log through ADIF Master to remove all the DXCC_MIXED flags so I can get a clean Log that only shows Confirmed and Worked, then intend to Scraper it to get the Granted's in that I can, then manually do the ones that DXCC don't have records for on LOTW.
73
Ian
G4GIR
p.s how many hours sleep do you get!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 14/09/2021 18:19:47
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

OK Ian, all caught up. What fo you need? 73.
On 09/14/2021 4:05 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Ok Bob,
Thanks, If I create a new log, export my log from DXBase, import it to L32, will any of the QSO's be set to Granted in L32?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 14/09/2021 08:11:08
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Not in the immediate future. Too many irons in the fire. 73.
On 09/14/2021 3:03 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Morning Bob
Do you think you will be carrying out some re-work in the Awards area?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Main Broadband < i.frith@...>
Sent: 13/09/2021 09:00:46
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Hello Bob
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
Yes that is correct as Pete has said, also in that first submission for a QSO with 1A0 on 40m, it will count for DXCC_SINGLE BAND 40m, any further submission of a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m, should be rejected.
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
Again I believe what you say does happen in L32, but as we agree that is not how it should be. The shot below for 1A0 is how DXCC_MXD should look, except the 60m and 13cm aren't valid bands for any DXCC  Award. I manually changed the 1A0 entries to reflect this but as you can see every country in the shot needs changing!!! Not quite sure how I can go about that. I do have a back up before I started to sort out the GRANTED slots which maybe half correct!!
I think probably all it needs is new selections in the Set/show awards credit dialogue? and a new drop down selection in the DXCC AWARDS TABLE, say DXCC_SINGLE BAND and DXCC_CHALLENGE?
Hope this helps.
73
Ian G4GIR
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73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 22:16:39
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, please confirm my understanding of what you said ... Is this correct ...
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
OK, what happens if you now submit another CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m? What if any, credits are granted?
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 3:59 PM g4girhb0 via groups.io <ian.frith@...> wrote:
Wish I could, the ole Prostate giving me gyp!
Cheers mate.
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 20:07:17
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I can still pee as high up the bathroom was as I did when I was 16. However, when I had to clean my own shoes, my competitive instinct was dampened (no pun intended). SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 2:47 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Bob,
Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits.
I guess for as to why, this is a function of mans competitive instinct!!! As for how, The process is clearly documented on the ARRL DXCC web site.
But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award.
It is credited for both, but only ONCE, If the first 1A0 QSO on 20mtr CW is submitted it will be GRANTED for Mixed/CW and 20mtr, if you then submit another card for 1A0 on 40mtr CW it will only be credited for 40mtr not CW or MIXED.
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
Can you send me a link to that statement please. It sounds correct, i.e any valid country on any valid mode, is 1 credit for mixed DXCC, but that country won't count again on any other mode or Band for MIXED DXCC.
I think what I would like to see is additional drop down selections in the DXCC Awards table, I.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc, etc for all the Single Band Awards, that would remove any ambiguities between CW/MXD/PHONE or DATA. Of course it would need the same selections in the Set/show awards credits, so you could select the correct GRANTED Flag.
Just my thoughts Bob, wonder if anyone else has any constructive comments?
Thanks for the brilliant software.
73 Ian G4GIR
.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 17:17:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits. But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award. SeventyThree(s).
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
On 09/12/2021 5:25 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Connected to this subject, Am I right in assuming the following.
To check my Single band DXCC Granted QSO's I use the Mixed DXCC Awards Table, which should reflect the QSO's held in LOTW for each band, indicated by the highlighted CALL SIGN I have set up.
However as this is the Mixed DXCC Table, how can I see which QSO is Granted for the Mixed DXCC Award? i.e there is only 1 QSO for e.g 1A0 that will count for Mixed DXCC and the DXCC Mode it was credited for, but as all slots are GRANTED I can't tell which was the MIXED QSO!
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: g4girhb0 via groups.io < ian.frith@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 20:04:01
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Thanks Bob
I knew how to get to the set/show menu, what I found was that when I checked DXCC-CW under QSL GRANTED for a QSO with G4XXX applied it and exited it, then refreshed the AWARD screen it still showed the SLOT as CONFIRMED not GRANTED, what I think I have to do is  check DXCC-CW and DXCC-MIXED? Seems odd when I already have a MIXED GRANTED CREDIT with G4AAA. Is this the correct procedure?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 17:55:35
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

To get to the set/show menu, you click on a QSO in the logbook entry window. If that QSO was on 80m, you add whatever credit to 80m. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/11/2021 12:21 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Hello Garry,
The beer and yours were very nice!!
But, today I have come across another problem.
In the manual it states L32 can track DXCC single band awards, but when I use Set/show awards credits, there is no option to set i.e a QSO Granted for 12m or 80m!
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Hinson < Gary@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 10/09/2021 19:59:21
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Well done mate!

 

Have one for me!

 

73

G.

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 11 September 2021 06:00
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Garry

 

Thought I would let you know I have sorted the Granted status out on all the DXCC awards, using the method I mentioned and the DXCC documentation from 1980 onward, so glad I kept all the records.

 

Time for a Beer I think.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 22:03:42

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Thanks for the reply Garry,

 

Yes Clublog is updating the records where it can, i.e with the records held on LOTW that match my log with correct dates and callsigns.

 

I agree that the DXCC team would have checked the cards for complete validity, however they didn't enter all the details.

 

Here is a shot of my CW DXCC record, note the DXCC number codes, click on e.g. Monaco, and the next shot is what you get. So this is what Club Log gets and what scraper downloads, hence all the errors in the import, they just can't match.

 

As you say the years match but the dates have to match to be able to update to G.

 

I have found a work around though.

 

As my DXBase Log agrees with LOTW as far as the totals are concerned, I have exported all credited DXCC Records as an ADIF file,  converted that to a Text file, imported that to Excel,  deleted all the irrelevant columns, added the | symbols in the relevant places, converted the dates to what L32 needs, saved it as a text file, removed the TAB delimiters. I now have a Text file that looks like a scraper file.

 

When I run it in L32, it updated around 2000 QSO's but some 700 odd QSO's were rejected.

 

So got some work to sort out the rejected QSO's.

 

I can't believe nobody else has had this problem?

 

Still it all helps to pass the time!!!

 

Give me your thoughts please.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 20:14:14

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Hi Ian,

 

Club Log should update its records if you run the LoTW Sync function, and give it a little time to do its thing.  If that isn’t working properly, please contact Club Log support.  Michael G7VJR and team is very responsive.

 

QSL cards that were submitted for DXCC credit long ago – before the online application process was invented – were processed rapidly by an overworked DXCC team taking shortcuts to keep the backlog under control.  As far as I know, they did check and record the DX callsigns, bands and modes from the cards, plus the years, but I’m not entirely sure about that.  You should be able to check the recorded data through the DXCC screens on LoTW, and I would expect those same details to be exported in the DXCC ADIF exports.

 

ARRL Scraper is one of Bob’s brainwaves.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 23:07
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Gary,

 

Yes I have done the Club log sync, before I tried the scraper and it doesn't up date the QSO's only the latest new granted QSO's,

 

For instance on 160m L32 shows 14 QSO's Granted out of 141 Countries confirmed. 141 is my awarded total on 160m. Clublog shows the same, 141 C and 14 V.

 

So looks like Club Log isn't getting the info from LOTW?

 

My 30m Total was only 17 Granted, in L32, aafter modifying the ARRL scraper file and importing to L32 I now have 239 G and 273 C, so I guess the missing 34 are old QSO's which LOTW has no Call details for, therefore I guess its a manual trawl through?

 

As for the ARRL SCRAPER.EXE, I tried to find a newer version but nothing, Is it an ARRL file or Bobs or ?

 

Cheers

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 00:44:09

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


That’s a few decades in Internet Time! 😊

 

I’m not sure how I got it, but mine is 7 months old:

 

Aside from using an ancient ARRL Scraper, have you tried the Club Log route, Ian?  In essence:

1.      Get your log reasonably up-to-date in Club Log

2.      Trigger Club Log’s LoTW Sync function … and QRX a little while for it to grab the info and update your Club Log log accordingly

3.      Use Logger32’s File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log)  function to get the info from Club log and update your local log

 

Overall it is quicker and more reliable than the Scraper approach for me i.e. about 30 mins to get all my ~61k LoTW confirmations:

 

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 08:22
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

1.0.16, DATED 2015!! Guess its a wee bit old?

 

73

 

Ian

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob <k4cy@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 08/09/2021 21:07:48

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


... and what is the version number of the ARRL scraper.exe? SeventyThree(s).

On 09/08/2021 3:58 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:

Hello All

I have tried to update my QSO's to Granted using ARRL Scraper.

I get the file down loaded ok around 3000 QSO's

Try to Import into L32 but every QSO is rejected.

When I start the import I get a message in the box saying Waiting, Valid Callsigns for this Certificate are: G4GIR, 0 QSO's WILL BE REDIRECTED TO CORRECT ENTRIES IN THIS LOG BOOK.

The end result is 3598 QSO's not updated.

Have I missed something?

A lot of the QSO's have no Call Signs in the down loaded file due to the Paper Submissions back in the 70's/80's so understand that but others should be ok.

Thanks

Ian G4GIR

 


Re: No Transmit for RTTY using IC-7300 and MMVARI

Rick Spears W4HRA
 

Rick. Hate to spoil my celebration but now JTDX goes straight into transmit when it loads. Just the opposite of what the issue was with MMVARI. None of the obvious functions like halt send will stop it from transmitting. Have to close JTDX. Any thoughts on which setting I changed my be the culprit?

Rick W4HRA


Re: No Transmit for RTTY using IC-7300 and MMVARI

Rick Spears W4HRA
 

Rick. Working now, Thanks!
So it may be a few different settings but I think Data Off Mode setting may have done it. I had it set to USB.
Also some changes to USB Send as well.
And in MMVARI setting PTT to Radio control.

Anyway thanks so much for your help.

73's Rick W4HRA


Re: No Transmit for RTTY using IC-7300 and MMVARI

John Munton - G7SSE
 

Rick ( and Rick)

I'm just guessing here but would "CI-V USB Echo Back" also need to bet set to ON in the radio for PTT via CAT command ??

73
John
G7SSE


------ Original Message ------
From: "Rick Ellison" <rellison@...>
Sent: 16/09/2021 18:47:27
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] No Transmit for RTTY using IC-7300 and MMVARI

Here are my radio settings..

Data Off Mode should be Mic,Acc

Data Mode should be USB

USB Serial Function should be CI-V

Now click on USB Send Keying

USB Send should be set to RTS

USB Keying CW should be set to DTR

USB Keying RTTY should be OFF

 

 

73 Rick

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io [mailto:hamlogger@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Spears
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 1:36 PM
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] No Transmit for RTTY using IC-7300 and MMVARI

 

Hi Rick. I mimicked your settings and still not keying transmitter. However now I see I did need the radio control checked for the CAT PTT for sure. So that is a big help.
I am thinking it is perhaps the way I have the CI-V settings set?
Also are setting your USB drivers for send and receive to both using the ICOM drivers?

Best Rick W4HRA


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73, John - G7SSE


Re: No Transmit for RTTY using IC-7300 and MMVARI

Rick Ellison
 

Here are my radio settings..

Data Off Mode should be Mic,Acc

Data Mode should be USB

USB Serial Function should be CI-V

Now click on USB Send Keying

USB Send should be set to RTS

USB Keying CW should be set to DTR

USB Keying RTTY should be OFF

 

 

73 Rick

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io [mailto:hamlogger@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Spears
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 1:36 PM
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] No Transmit for RTTY using IC-7300 and MMVARI

 

Hi Rick. I mimicked your settings and still not keying transmitter. However now I see I did need the radio control checked for the CAT PTT for sure. So that is a big help.
I am thinking it is perhaps the way I have the CI-V settings set?
Also are setting your USB drivers for send and receive to both using the ICOM drivers?

Best Rick W4HRA


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: No Transmit for RTTY using IC-7300 and MMVARI

Rick Spears W4HRA
 

Hi Rick. I mimicked your settings and still not keying transmitter. However now I see I did need the radio control checked for the CAT PTT for sure. So that is a big help.
I am thinking it is perhaps the way I have the CI-V settings set?
Also are setting your USB drivers for send and receive to both using the ICOM drivers?

Best Rick W4HRA


Re: LoTW sync via Club Log

Bob
 

Just a SWAG ... There is no DXCC for FT8. There is a DXCC_DIGITAL. In your Logger32 configuration, do you have FT8 as a digital mode? SeventyThree(s).

On 09/16/2021 1:04 PM Arturo LU6ETB <lu6etb@...> wrote:
 
 
Hi Gary,
 
I tried for the first time Logger32 -> Synchronize LOTW from Club Log.
 
See below results
 
image.png
 
image.png
 
It is reporting 6878 QSOs not found
What  I can't understand is why the first one, S79VU on 30M was reported. with "Can't find"
In Logger32 seems with same data
image.png
 
73 de Arturo, LU6ETB
 

El jue, 16 sept 2021 a las 11:22, Bob (< k4cy@...>) escribió:
Gary, also, make an ADIF export of the offending JH1HFW QSO so I can see exactly what's in the requested/granted fields of the logbook. 73.
On 09/16/2021 9:29 AM Bob < k4cy@...> wrote:
 
 
Gary, to investigate I'd need to see the LoTW records from Clublog.txt file that contains the JH1HFE record. SeventyThree(s)
On 09/15/2021 8:17 PM Gary Hinson < gary@...> wrote:
 
 

Errrrr, I was over-excited: we are no longer getting the red warning message, but the LoTW sync via Club Log still isn’t working properly.

 

Club Log knows about QSOs that have been matched and confirmed on LoTW, but isn’t passing those details to Logger32 e.g. after synchronising Logger32, Club Log and LoTW:

 

Here are my recent QSOs on LoTW:

 

 

This one with JH1HFE has been matched and confirmed already:

 

 

On Club Log it is shown as confirmed:

 

 

In  my log, that QSO remains stubbornly unconfirmed:

 


 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Hinson
Sent: 16 September 2021 07:18
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] LoTW sync via Club Log

 

Inspired by your positive report, Ian, I simply gave it another go … and it worked!

 

 

Hey thanks everyone.  It looks like - having been hammered by all our tests - whatever wasn’t working is now running properly again.  We must have knocked the bits back into place, or something.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of g4girhb0 via groups.io
Sent: 16 September 2021 01:45
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] LoTW sync via Club Log

 

Just done a Clublog sync worked ok down loaded 5 new mode/band updates.

 

73

Ian G4GIR

 

----- Original Message -----

From: <sp2ewq@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 15/09/2021 14:05:52

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] LoTW sync via Club Log


 

 

Hi,

 

Exactly the same thing over here:

 

Best regards,

Alec

 

 

 

------ Wiadomość oryginalna ------

Od: "Dan" <osvaldo.peralta@...>

Data: 15.09.2021 14:46:36

Temat: Re: [hamlogger] LoTW sync via Club Log

 

Gary

 

I tried your steps and get same error.

 

73 de LU3MAM

 

El mar, 14 sept 2021 a las 21:55, Gary Hinson (<Gary@...>) escribió:

Can anyone who uses Club Log and LoTW with Logger32 help us test Logger32’s Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log) function, please?

I’m getting failures suggesting something is broken, somewhere. 

In order to test it:

1.       Get Club Log up to date with your recent LoTW confirmations using the <LoTW sync> button on Club Log’s left side menu.

2.       Wait a while for the sync to complete.  If you have selected “Every upload” under the Club Log settings page, you should get an email when it completes.  Otherwise, try waiting half an hour to an hour.

3.       In Logger32 open File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log).

4.       Select either <Last 3 Months only> or <Last 1 Month only>, then click <Start>.

On my system, I get a ‘Nothing to download’ red message every time:

If you don’t get the red error (or some other one), please check whether recent LoTW confirmations are duly recorded in your Logger32 log, as expected.  

5.       Let us know how you got on!

73 & TNX
Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 

 

 

 


Re: LoTW sync via Club Log

Arturo LU6ETB
 

Hi Gary,

I tried for the first time Logger32 -> Synchronize LOTW from Club Log.

See below results

image.png

image.png

It is reporting 6878 QSOs not found
What  I can't understand is why the first one, S79VU on 30M was reported. with "Can't find"
In Logger32 seems with same data
image.png

73 de Arturo, LU6ETB


El jue, 16 sept 2021 a las 11:22, Bob (<k4cy@...>) escribió:
Gary, also, make an ADIF export of the offending JH1HFW QSO so I can see exactly what's in the requested/granted fields of the logbook. 73.
On 09/16/2021 9:29 AM Bob <k4cy@...> wrote:
 
 
Gary, to investigate I'd need to see the LoTW records from Clublog.txt file that contains the JH1HFE record. SeventyThree(s)
On 09/15/2021 8:17 PM Gary Hinson <gary@...> wrote:
 
 

Errrrr, I was over-excited: we are no longer getting the red warning message, but the LoTW sync via Club Log still isn’t working properly.

 

Club Log knows about QSOs that have been matched and confirmed on LoTW, but isn’t passing those details to Logger32 e.g. after synchronising Logger32, Club Log and LoTW:

 

Here are my recent QSOs on LoTW:

 

 

This one with JH1HFE has been matched and confirmed already:

 

 

On Club Log it is shown as confirmed:

 

 

In  my log, that QSO remains stubbornly unconfirmed:

 


 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Hinson
Sent: 16 September 2021 07:18
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] LoTW sync via Club Log

 

Inspired by your positive report, Ian, I simply gave it another go … and it worked!

 

 

Hey thanks everyone.  It looks like - having been hammered by all our tests - whatever wasn’t working is now running properly again.  We must have knocked the bits back into place, or something.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of g4girhb0 via groups.io
Sent: 16 September 2021 01:45
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] LoTW sync via Club Log

 

Just done a Clublog sync worked ok down loaded 5 new mode/band updates.

 

73

Ian G4GIR

 

----- Original Message -----

From: <sp2ewq@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 15/09/2021 14:05:52

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] LoTW sync via Club Log


 

 

Hi,

 

Exactly the same thing over here:

 

Best regards,

Alec

 

 

 

------ Wiadomość oryginalna ------

Od: "Dan" <osvaldo.peralta@...>

Data: 15.09.2021 14:46:36

Temat: Re: [hamlogger] LoTW sync via Club Log

 

Gary

 

I tried your steps and get same error.

 

73 de LU3MAM

 

El mar, 14 sept 2021 a las 21:55, Gary Hinson (<Gary@...>) escribió:

Can anyone who uses Club Log and LoTW with Logger32 help us test Logger32’s Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log) function, please?

I’m getting failures suggesting something is broken, somewhere. 

In order to test it:

1.       Get Club Log up to date with your recent LoTW confirmations using the <LoTW sync> button on Club Log’s left side menu.

2.       Wait a while for the sync to complete.  If you have selected “Every upload” under the Club Log settings page, you should get an email when it completes.  Otherwise, try waiting half an hour to an hour.

3.       In Logger32 open File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log).

4.       Select either <Last 3 Months only> or <Last 1 Month only>, then click <Start>.

On my system, I get a ‘Nothing to download’ red message every time:

If you don’t get the red error (or some other one), please check whether recent LoTW confirmations are duly recorded in your Logger32 log, as expected.  

5.       Let us know how you got on!

73 & TNX
Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 

 

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