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Re: LoTW sync via Club Log

w5jmw
 

You must complete the first steps,username password and e-mail from Clublog..

On 2021-09-14 21:30, ja1nlx wrote:
Gary
I tried your steps and get same error.
73 de aki
JA1NLX
------ Original message ------
From: "Bob" <k4cy@comcast.net>
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Date: 2021/09/15 10:05:12
Subject Re: [hamlogger] LoTW sync via Club Log

... Gary, I tried, but my eMail doesn't have a 'crossed my
fingers' emoji ...SeventyThree(s)AndBackUnderMyRock ...

On 09/14/2021 8:55 PM Gary Hinson <gary@isect.com> wrote:
Can anyone who uses Club Log and LoTW with Logger32 help us test
Logger32’s Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log) function, please?
I’m getting failures suggesting something is broken, somewhere.
In order to test it:
* Get Club Log up to date with your recent LoTW confirmations
using the <LoTW sync> button on Club Log [1]’s left side menu.
* Wait a while for the sync to complete. _If_ you have selected
“Every upload” under the Club Log settings page, you should
get an email when it completes. Otherwise, try waiting half an
hour to an hour.
* In Logger32 open File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log).
* Select either <Last 3 Months only> or <Last 1 Month only>,
then click <Start>.
On my system, I get a ‘Nothing to download’ red message every
time:
If you don’t get the red error (or some other one), please check
whether recent LoTW confirmations are duly recorded in your
Logger32 log, as expected.
* Let us know how you got on!
73 & TNX
Gary ZL2iFB
Links:
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[1] http://www.clublog.org/
[2] https://groups.io/g/hamlogger/message/85788
[3] https://groups.io/mt/85617284/796390
[4] https://groups.io/g/hamlogger/post
[5] https://groups.io/g/hamlogger/editsub/796390
[6] https://groups.io/g/hamlogger/leave/8057516/796390/1701416439/xyzzy


Re: LoTW sync via Club Log

w5jmw
 

Gary,just went to clublog and started the download.Left side of page in clublog.You must enter your lotw name and lotw password.It then starts.Once I get an e-mail I will try to merge.However I did this less than a month from logger 32 program..73 john

On 2021-09-14 19:55, Gary Hinson wrote:
Can anyone who uses Club Log and LoTW with Logger32 help us test
Logger32’s Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log) function, please?
I’m getting failures suggesting something is broken, somewhere.
In order to test it:
* Get Club Log up to date with your recent LoTW confirmations using
the <LoTW sync> button on Club Log [1]’s left side menu.
* Wait a while for the sync to complete. _If_ you have selected
“Every upload” under the Club Log settings page, you should get an
email when it completes. Otherwise, try waiting half an hour to an
hour.
* In Logger32 open File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log).
* Select either <Last 3 Months only> or <Last 1 Month only>, then
click <Start>.
On my system, I get a ‘Nothing to download’ red message every
time:
If you don’t get the red error (or some other one), please check
whether recent LoTW confirmations are duly recorded in your Logger32
log, as expected.
* Let us know how you got on!
73 & TNX
Gary ZL2iFB
Links:
------
[1] http://www.clublog.org/
[2] https://groups.io/g/hamlogger/message/85786
[3] https://groups.io/mt/85617284/796390
[4] https://groups.io/g/hamlogger/post
[5] https://groups.io/g/hamlogger/editsub/796390
[6] https://groups.io/g/hamlogger/leave/8057516/796390/1701416439/xyzzy


Re: LoTW sync via Club Log

ja1nlx
 

Gary

I tried your steps and get same error.


73 de aki
JA1NLX

------ Original message ------
From: "Bob" <k4cy@...>
Date: 2021/09/15 10:05:12
Subject Re: [hamlogger] LoTW sync via Club Log

... Gary,  I tried, but my eMail doesn't have a 'crossed my fingers' emoji ...SeventyThree(s)AndBackUnderMyRock ...
On 09/14/2021 8:55 PM Gary Hinson <gary@...> wrote:
 
 

Can anyone who uses Club Log and LoTW with Logger32 help us test Logger32’s Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log) function, please?

I’m getting failures suggesting something is broken, somewhere. 

In order to test it:

  1. Get Club Log up to date with your recent LoTW confirmations using the <LoTW sync> button on Club Log’s left side menu.
  2. Wait a while for the sync to complete.  If you have selected “Every upload” under the Club Log settings page, you should get an email when it completes.  Otherwise, try waiting half an hour to an hour.

  1. In Logger32 open File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log).
  2. Select either <Last 3 Months only> or <Last 1 Month only>, then click <Start>.

On my system, I get a ‘Nothing to download’ red message every time:

If you don’t get the red error (or some other one), please check whether recent LoTW confirmations are duly recorded in your Logger32 log, as expected.  

  1. Let us know how you got on!

73 & TNX
Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 


Re: LoTW sync via Club Log

Bob
 

... Gary,  I tried, but my eMail doesn't have a 'crossed my fingers' emoji ...SeventyThree(s)AndBackUnderMyRock ...

On 09/14/2021 8:55 PM Gary Hinson <gary@...> wrote:
 
 

Can anyone who uses Club Log and LoTW with Logger32 help us test Logger32’s Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log) function, please?

I’m getting failures suggesting something is broken, somewhere. 

In order to test it:

  1. Get Club Log up to date with your recent LoTW confirmations using the <LoTW sync> button on Club Log’s left side menu.
  2. Wait a while for the sync to complete.  If you have selected “Every upload” under the Club Log settings page, you should get an email when it completes.  Otherwise, try waiting half an hour to an hour.

  1. In Logger32 open File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log).
  2. Select either <Last 3 Months only> or <Last 1 Month only>, then click <Start>.

On my system, I get a ‘Nothing to download’ red message every time:

If you don’t get the red error (or some other one), please check whether recent LoTW confirmations are duly recorded in your Logger32 log, as expected.  

  1. Let us know how you got on!

73 & TNX
Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 


LoTW sync via Club Log

Gary Hinson
 

Can anyone who uses Club Log and LoTW with Logger32 help us test Logger32’s Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log) function, please?

I’m getting failures suggesting something is broken, somewhere. 

In order to test it:

  1. Get Club Log up to date with your recent LoTW confirmations using the <LoTW sync> button on Club Log’s left side menu.
  2. Wait a while for the sync to complete.  If you have selected “Every upload” under the Club Log settings page, you should get an email when it completes.  Otherwise, try waiting half an hour to an hour.

  1. In Logger32 open File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log).
  2. Select either <Last 3 Months only> or <Last 1 Month only>, then click <Start>.

On my system, I get a ‘Nothing to download’ red message every time:

If you don’t get the red error (or some other one), please check whether recent LoTW confirmations are duly recorded in your Logger32 log, as expected.  

  1. Let us know how you got on!

73 & TNX
Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 


Re: User Manual for version 4.0.276 - Possibly correction needed -

Brendan McNeill
 

Hi Gary

I have also have a problem with JTDX logging - it logs everything correctly except the person’s name, which is missing from the “NAME” field, even though their name appears in the grey Call sign look up window name field.

If I manually enter their callsign into the box and save the QSO as if it were an SSB call, then it records their name correctly in the “NAME” field.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Kind regards
Brendan  ZL3BAM

On 15/09/2021, at 5:53 AM, Gary Hinson <Gary@...> wrote:

HI Peter,
 
Thanks for that.  You’re right: there is no <Enable data transfer to external Log> option under Settings → Reporting in the current version of JTDX.  Like Logger32, JTDX is being actively maintained so I guess the option wording was updated without me noticing the change.
 
It's not exactly obvious but the JTDX Settings → Reporting tab has separate areas for TCP and UDP settings [in the JTDX v2.2.157-32A-rc1 beta version I am running anyway]:
 
<image001.png>
 
So to transfer QSO data from JTDX to Logger32, you need to tell it to use either UDP (<Enable sending logged QSO ADIF data> as I do) which works with Logger32’s UDP functions such as the UDP BandMap, or TCP (<Enable sending to TCP server>) which communicates with the TCP server in Logger32.  
 
Don’t enable both TCP and UDP logging or I think you will log duplicate QSOs! 
 
I will correct the manual for the next release.  Thanks for letting me know about the issue so clearly.
 
Bob and the beta crew are still working on parallel logging so more changes are likely in that area too.
 
73
Gary  ZL2iFB
From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Eckersberger
Sent: 14 September 2021 22:15
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: [hamlogger] User Manual for version 4.0.276 - Possibly correction needed -
 

Hello,

Today I occupied myself with "Parallel Logging". When reading the sector "31.3  TCP configuration for JTDX" I probably found a small glitch. Look at the 2 pics below. The last sentence in pic 1 says ...

Still in the JTDX settings <Reporting> tab, click to enable <Enable data transfer to external Log>, telling JTDX to send QSO data out as in ADIF format ....   and so on.


Here is pic 1

<image002.png>



Here now pic 2.

At last in my JTDX version 2.2.156 looks the open <Reporting> tab slightly different.

<image003.jpg>

As you may see yourself there is no <Enable data transfer to external Log>. But we do have <Enable sending log QSO ADIF data>. When checking this one (and all the other necessary settings as well) parallel logging works just fine. TAL Bob!

Something different but in connection with "parallel logging" practice ... When making some additional modifications within one of the logbooks the same mods are immediately implemented within the second logbook. Fantastic! With one exception. If one enters the QSL-manager this data is not transferred to the other logbook. For one reason or an other. Its even worse. If in the other logbook a QSL-manager is already present that data will be immediately deleted when trying to make any changes. This would make sense when the NEW QSL-manager would be stored in both logs. But this is not the case. 

Final words to the manual itself ... A real master piece! Thanks a lot (TAL) as well for that.


73 de Peter, OE3EPW



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brendan@...
+64 21 881 883





Re: Granted

Bob
 

For single band DXCCs, simply read appropriate DXCC column. 73.

On 09/14/2021 2:49 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Hello Bob,
 
I guess you refer to the AWARDS, section?
 
If so,
Add a new drop down item "DXCC_SINGLE BAND" in the AWARDS drop down , ADD new Single band entries in the Set/show awards credits, for QSL and LOTW Submitted and Granted  i.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc for all the valid DXCC bands.
 
Not sure why the programme is adding DXCC_MIXED to most of the QSO's, but if you can find out why!! Would be good to stop it.
 
I am at the moment running my log through ADIF Master to remove all the DXCC_MIXED flags so I can get a clean Log that only shows Confirmed and Worked, then intend to Scraper it to get the Granted's in that I can, then manually do the ones that DXCC don't have records for on LOTW.
 
73
 
Ian
 
G4GIR
 
p.s how many hours sleep do you get!!!
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 14/09/2021 18:19:47
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

OK Ian, all caught up. What fo you need? 73.
On 09/14/2021 4:05 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Ok Bob,
 
Thanks, If I create a new log, export my log from DXBase, import it to L32, will any of the QSO's be set to Granted in L32?
 
73
Ian G4GIR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 14/09/2021 08:11:08
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Not in the immediate future. Too many irons in the fire. 73.
On 09/14/2021 3:03 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Morning Bob
 
Do you think you will be carrying out some re-work in the Awards area?
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Main Broadband < i.frith@...>
Sent: 13/09/2021 09:00:46
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Hello Bob
 
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
 
Yes that is correct as Pete has said, also in that first submission for a QSO with 1A0 on 40m, it will count for DXCC_SINGLE BAND 40m, any further submission of a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m, should be rejected.
 
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
 
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
 
Again I believe what you say does happen in L32, but as we agree that is not how it should be. The shot below for 1A0 is how DXCC_MXD should look, except the 60m and 13cm aren't valid bands for any DXCC  Award. I manually changed the 1A0 entries to reflect this but as you can see every country in the shot needs changing!!! Not quite sure how I can go about that. I do have a back up before I started to sort out the GRANTED slots which maybe half correct!!
 
I think probably all it needs is new selections in the Set/show awards credit dialogue? and a new drop down selection in the DXCC AWARDS TABLE, say DXCC_SINGLE BAND and DXCC_CHALLENGE?
 
Hope this helps.
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
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73
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 22:16:39
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, please confirm my understanding of what you said ... Is this correct ...
 
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
 
OK, what happens if you now submit another CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m? What if any, credits are granted?
 
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
 
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 3:59 PM g4girhb0 via groups.io <ian.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Wish I could, the ole Prostate giving me gyp!
 
Cheers mate.
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 20:07:17
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I can still pee as high up the bathroom was as I did when I was 16. However, when I had to clean my own shoes, my competitive instinct was dampened (no pun intended). SeventyThree(s).
 
On 09/12/2021 2:47 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Bob,
 
Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits.
 
I guess for as to why, this is a function of mans competitive instinct!!! As for how, The process is clearly documented on the ARRL DXCC web site.
 
But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award.
 
It is credited for both, but only ONCE, If the first 1A0 QSO on 20mtr CW is submitted it will be GRANTED for Mixed/CW and 20mtr, if you then submit another card for 1A0 on 40mtr CW it will only be credited for 40mtr not CW or MIXED.
 
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
 
Can you send me a link to that statement please. It sounds correct, i.e any valid country on any valid mode, is 1 credit for mixed DXCC, but that country won't count again on any other mode or Band for MIXED DXCC.
 
I think what I would like to see is additional drop down selections in the DXCC Awards table, I.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc, etc for all the Single Band Awards, that would remove any ambiguities between CW/MXD/PHONE or DATA. Of course it would need the same selections in the Set/show awards credits, so you could select the correct GRANTED Flag.
 
Just my thoughts Bob, wonder if anyone else has any constructive comments?
 
 
Thanks for the brilliant software.
 
73 Ian G4GIR
.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 17:17:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits. But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award. SeventyThree(s).
 
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
On 09/12/2021 5:25 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Connected to this subject, Am I right in assuming the following.
 
To check my Single band DXCC Granted QSO's I use the Mixed DXCC Awards Table, which should reflect the QSO's held in LOTW for each band, indicated by the highlighted CALL SIGN I have set up.
 
However as this is the Mixed DXCC Table, how can I see which QSO is Granted for the Mixed DXCC Award? i.e there is only 1 QSO for e.g 1A0 that will count for Mixed DXCC and the DXCC Mode it was credited for, but as all slots are GRANTED I can't tell which was the MIXED QSO!
 
73
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: g4girhb0 via groups.io < ian.frith@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 20:04:01
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Thanks Bob
 
I knew how to get to the set/show menu, what I found was that when I checked DXCC-CW under QSL GRANTED for a QSO with G4XXX applied it and exited it, then refreshed the AWARD screen it still showed the SLOT as CONFIRMED not GRANTED, what I think I have to do is  check DXCC-CW and DXCC-MIXED? Seems odd when I already have a MIXED GRANTED CREDIT with G4AAA. Is this the correct procedure?
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 17:55:35
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

To get to the set/show menu, you click on a QSO in the logbook entry window. If that QSO was on 80m, you add whatever credit to 80m. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/11/2021 12:21 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Hello Garry,
 
The beer and yours were very nice!!
 
But, today I have come across another problem.
 
In the manual it states L32 can track DXCC single band awards, but when I use Set/show awards credits, there is no option to set i.e a QSO Granted for 12m or 80m!
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Hinson < Gary@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 10/09/2021 19:59:21
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Well done mate!

 

Have one for me!

 

73

G.

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 11 September 2021 06:00
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Garry

 

Thought I would let you know I have sorted the Granted status out on all the DXCC awards, using the method I mentioned and the DXCC documentation from 1980 onward, so glad I kept all the records.

 

Time for a Beer I think.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 22:03:42

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Thanks for the reply Garry,

 

Yes Clublog is updating the records where it can, i.e with the records held on LOTW that match my log with correct dates and callsigns.

 

I agree that the DXCC team would have checked the cards for complete validity, however they didn't enter all the details.

 

Here is a shot of my CW DXCC record, note the DXCC number codes, click on e.g. Monaco, and the next shot is what you get. So this is what Club Log gets and what scraper downloads, hence all the errors in the import, they just can't match.

 

As you say the years match but the dates have to match to be able to update to G.

 

I have found a work around though.

 

As my DXBase Log agrees with LOTW as far as the totals are concerned, I have exported all credited DXCC Records as an ADIF file,  converted that to a Text file, imported that to Excel,  deleted all the irrelevant columns, added the | symbols in the relevant places, converted the dates to what L32 needs, saved it as a text file, removed the TAB delimiters. I now have a Text file that looks like a scraper file.

 

When I run it in L32, it updated around 2000 QSO's but some 700 odd QSO's were rejected.

 

So got some work to sort out the rejected QSO's.

 

I can't believe nobody else has had this problem?

 

Still it all helps to pass the time!!!

 

Give me your thoughts please.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 20:14:14

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Hi Ian,

 

Club Log should update its records if you run the LoTW Sync function, and give it a little time to do its thing.  If that isn’t working properly, please contact Club Log support.  Michael G7VJR and team is very responsive.

 

QSL cards that were submitted for DXCC credit long ago – before the online application process was invented – were processed rapidly by an overworked DXCC team taking shortcuts to keep the backlog under control.  As far as I know, they did check and record the DX callsigns, bands and modes from the cards, plus the years, but I’m not entirely sure about that.  You should be able to check the recorded data through the DXCC screens on LoTW, and I would expect those same details to be exported in the DXCC ADIF exports.

 

ARRL Scraper is one of Bob’s brainwaves.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 23:07
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Gary,

 

Yes I have done the Club log sync, before I tried the scraper and it doesn't up date the QSO's only the latest new granted QSO's,

 

For instance on 160m L32 shows 14 QSO's Granted out of 141 Countries confirmed. 141 is my awarded total on 160m. Clublog shows the same, 141 C and 14 V.

 

So looks like Club Log isn't getting the info from LOTW?

 

My 30m Total was only 17 Granted, in L32, aafter modifying the ARRL scraper file and importing to L32 I now have 239 G and 273 C, so I guess the missing 34 are old QSO's which LOTW has no Call details for, therefore I guess its a manual trawl through?

 

As for the ARRL SCRAPER.EXE, I tried to find a newer version but nothing, Is it an ARRL file or Bobs or ?

 

Cheers

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 00:44:09

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


That’s a few decades in Internet Time! 😊

 

I’m not sure how I got it, but mine is 7 months old:

 

Aside from using an ancient ARRL Scraper, have you tried the Club Log route, Ian?  In essence:

1.      Get your log reasonably up-to-date in Club Log

2.      Trigger Club Log’s LoTW Sync function … and QRX a little while for it to grab the info and update your Club Log log accordingly

3.      Use Logger32’s File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log)  function to get the info from Club log and update your local log

 

Overall it is quicker and more reliable than the Scraper approach for me i.e. about 30 mins to get all my ~61k LoTW confirmations:

 

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 08:22
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

1.0.16, DATED 2015!! Guess its a wee bit old?

 

73

 

Ian

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob <k4cy@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 08/09/2021 21:07:48

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


... and what is the version number of the ARRL scraper.exe? SeventyThree(s).

On 09/08/2021 3:58 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:

Hello All

I have tried to update my QSO's to Granted using ARRL Scraper.

I get the file down loaded ok around 3000 QSO's

Try to Import into L32 but every QSO is rejected.

When I start the import I get a message in the box saying Waiting, Valid Callsigns for this Certificate are: G4GIR, 0 QSO's WILL BE REDIRECTED TO CORRECT ENTRIES IN THIS LOG BOOK.

The end result is 3598 QSO's not updated.

Have I missed something?

A lot of the QSO's have no Call Signs in the down loaded file due to the Paper Submissions back in the 70's/80's so understand that but others should be ok.

Thanks

Ian G4GIR

 


Re: Granted

G4GIR
 

Sorry Bob I meant "DXCC_SINGLE BAND" in the AWARDS drop down table.
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Main Broadband <i.frith@...>
Sent: 14/09/2021 19:49:32
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Hello Bob,
 
I guess you refer to the AWARDS, section?
 
If so,
Add a new drop down item "DXCC_SINGLE BAND" in the AWARDS drop down , ADD new Single band entries in the Set/show awards credits, for QSL and LOTW Submitted and Granted  i.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc for all the valid DXCC bands.
 
Not sure why the programme is adding DXCC_MIXED to most of the QSO's, but if you can find out why!! Would be good to stop it.
 
I am at the moment running my log through ADIF Master to remove all the DXCC_MIXED flags so I can get a clean Log that only shows Confirmed and Worked, then intend to Scraper it to get the Granted's in that I can, then manually do the ones that DXCC don't have records for on LOTW.
 
73
 
Ian
 
G4GIR
 
p.s how many hours sleep do you get!!!
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <k4cy@...>
Sent: 14/09/2021 18:19:47
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

OK Ian, all caught up. What fo you need? 73.
On 09/14/2021 4:05 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Ok Bob,
Thanks, If I create a new log, export my log from DXBase, import it to L32, will any of the QSO's be set to Granted in L32?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 14/09/2021 08:11:08
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Not in the immediate future. Too many irons in the fire. 73.
On 09/14/2021 3:03 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Morning Bob
Do you think you will be carrying out some re-work in the Awards area?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Main Broadband < i.frith@...>
Sent: 13/09/2021 09:00:46
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Hello Bob
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
Yes that is correct as Pete has said, also in that first submission for a QSO with 1A0 on 40m, it will count for DXCC_SINGLE BAND 40m, any further submission of a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m, should be rejected.
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
Again I believe what you say does happen in L32, but as we agree that is not how it should be. The shot below for 1A0 is how DXCC_MXD should look, except the 60m and 13cm aren't valid bands for any DXCC  Award. I manually changed the 1A0 entries to reflect this but as you can see every country in the shot needs changing!!! Not quite sure how I can go about that. I do have a back up before I started to sort out the GRANTED slots which maybe half correct!!
I think probably all it needs is new selections in the Set/show awards credit dialogue? and a new drop down selection in the DXCC AWARDS TABLE, say DXCC_SINGLE BAND and DXCC_CHALLENGE?
Hope this helps.
73
Ian G4GIR
Image6B5BBED6
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 22:16:39
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, please confirm my understanding of what you said ... Is this correct ...
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
OK, what happens if you now submit another CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m? What if any, credits are granted?
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 3:59 PM g4girhb0 via groups.io <ian.frith@...> wrote:
Wish I could, the ole Prostate giving me gyp!
Cheers mate.
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 20:07:17
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I can still pee as high up the bathroom was as I did when I was 16. However, when I had to clean my own shoes, my competitive instinct was dampened (no pun intended). SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 2:47 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Bob,
Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits.
I guess for as to why, this is a function of mans competitive instinct!!! As for how, The process is clearly documented on the ARRL DXCC web site.
But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award.
It is credited for both, but only ONCE, If the first 1A0 QSO on 20mtr CW is submitted it will be GRANTED for Mixed/CW and 20mtr, if you then submit another card for 1A0 on 40mtr CW it will only be credited for 40mtr not CW or MIXED.
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
Can you send me a link to that statement please. It sounds correct, i.e any valid country on any valid mode, is 1 credit for mixed DXCC, but that country won't count again on any other mode or Band for MIXED DXCC.
I think what I would like to see is additional drop down selections in the DXCC Awards table, I.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc, etc for all the Single Band Awards, that would remove any ambiguities between CW/MXD/PHONE or DATA. Of course it would need the same selections in the Set/show awards credits, so you could select the correct GRANTED Flag.
Just my thoughts Bob, wonder if anyone else has any constructive comments?
Thanks for the brilliant software.
73 Ian G4GIR
.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 17:17:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits. But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award. SeventyThree(s).
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
On 09/12/2021 5:25 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Connected to this subject, Am I right in assuming the following.
To check my Single band DXCC Granted QSO's I use the Mixed DXCC Awards Table, which should reflect the QSO's held in LOTW for each band, indicated by the highlighted CALL SIGN I have set up.
However as this is the Mixed DXCC Table, how can I see which QSO is Granted for the Mixed DXCC Award? i.e there is only 1 QSO for e.g 1A0 that will count for Mixed DXCC and the DXCC Mode it was credited for, but as all slots are GRANTED I can't tell which was the MIXED QSO!
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: g4girhb0 via groups.io < ian.frith@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 20:04:01
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Thanks Bob
I knew how to get to the set/show menu, what I found was that when I checked DXCC-CW under QSL GRANTED for a QSO with G4XXX applied it and exited it, then refreshed the AWARD screen it still showed the SLOT as CONFIRMED not GRANTED, what I think I have to do is  check DXCC-CW and DXCC-MIXED? Seems odd when I already have a MIXED GRANTED CREDIT with G4AAA. Is this the correct procedure?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 17:55:35
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

To get to the set/show menu, you click on a QSO in the logbook entry window. If that QSO was on 80m, you add whatever credit to 80m. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/11/2021 12:21 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Hello Garry,
The beer and yours were very nice!!
But, today I have come across another problem.
In the manual it states L32 can track DXCC single band awards, but when I use Set/show awards credits, there is no option to set i.e a QSO Granted for 12m or 80m!
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Hinson < Gary@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 10/09/2021 19:59:21
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Well done mate!

 

Have one for me!

 

73

G.

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 11 September 2021 06:00
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Garry

 

Thought I would let you know I have sorted the Granted status out on all the DXCC awards, using the method I mentioned and the DXCC documentation from 1980 onward, so glad I kept all the records.

 

Time for a Beer I think.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 22:03:42

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Thanks for the reply Garry,

 

Yes Clublog is updating the records where it can, i.e with the records held on LOTW that match my log with correct dates and callsigns.

 

I agree that the DXCC team would have checked the cards for complete validity, however they didn't enter all the details.

 

Here is a shot of my CW DXCC record, note the DXCC number codes, click on e.g. Monaco, and the next shot is what you get. So this is what Club Log gets and what scraper downloads, hence all the errors in the import, they just can't match.

 

As you say the years match but the dates have to match to be able to update to G.

 

I have found a work around though.

 

As my DXBase Log agrees with LOTW as far as the totals are concerned, I have exported all credited DXCC Records as an ADIF file,  converted that to a Text file, imported that to Excel,  deleted all the irrelevant columns, added the | symbols in the relevant places, converted the dates to what L32 needs, saved it as a text file, removed the TAB delimiters. I now have a Text file that looks like a scraper file.

 

When I run it in L32, it updated around 2000 QSO's but some 700 odd QSO's were rejected.

 

So got some work to sort out the rejected QSO's.

 

I can't believe nobody else has had this problem?

 

Still it all helps to pass the time!!!

 

Give me your thoughts please.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

 

ImageB506D7B9

 

 

 

ImageBCE6A559

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 20:14:14

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Hi Ian,

 

Club Log should update its records if you run the LoTW Sync function, and give it a little time to do its thing.  If that isn’t working properly, please contact Club Log support.  Michael G7VJR and team is very responsive.

 

QSL cards that were submitted for DXCC credit long ago – before the online application process was invented – were processed rapidly by an overworked DXCC team taking shortcuts to keep the backlog under control.  As far as I know, they did check and record the DX callsigns, bands and modes from the cards, plus the years, but I’m not entirely sure about that.  You should be able to check the recorded data through the DXCC screens on LoTW, and I would expect those same details to be exported in the DXCC ADIF exports.

 

ARRL Scraper is one of Bob’s brainwaves.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 23:07
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Gary,

 

Yes I have done the Club log sync, before I tried the scraper and it doesn't up date the QSO's only the latest new granted QSO's,

 

For instance on 160m L32 shows 14 QSO's Granted out of 141 Countries confirmed. 141 is my awarded total on 160m. Clublog shows the same, 141 C and 14 V.

 

So looks like Club Log isn't getting the info from LOTW?

 

My 30m Total was only 17 Granted, in L32, aafter modifying the ARRL scraper file and importing to L32 I now have 239 G and 273 C, so I guess the missing 34 are old QSO's which LOTW has no Call details for, therefore I guess its a manual trawl through?

 

As for the ARRL SCRAPER.EXE, I tried to find a newer version but nothing, Is it an ARRL file or Bobs or ?

 

Cheers

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 00:44:09

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


That’s a few decades in Internet Time! 😊

 

I’m not sure how I got it, but mine is 7 months old:

 

Aside from using an ancient ARRL Scraper, have you tried the Club Log route, Ian?  In essence:

1.      Get your log reasonably up-to-date in Club Log

2.      Trigger Club Log’s LoTW Sync function … and QRX a little while for it to grab the info and update your Club Log log accordingly

3.      Use Logger32’s File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log)  function to get the info from Club log and update your local log

 

Overall it is quicker and more reliable than the Scraper approach for me i.e. about 30 mins to get all my ~61k LoTW confirmations:

 

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 08:22
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

1.0.16, DATED 2015!! Guess its a wee bit old?

 

73

 

Ian

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob <k4cy@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 08/09/2021 21:07:48

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


... and what is the version number of the ARRL scraper.exe? SeventyThree(s).

On 09/08/2021 3:58 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:

Hello All

I have tried to update my QSO's to Granted using ARRL Scraper.

I get the file down loaded ok around 3000 QSO's

Try to Import into L32 but every QSO is rejected.

When I start the import I get a message in the box saying Waiting, Valid Callsigns for this Certificate are: G4GIR, 0 QSO's WILL BE REDIRECTED TO CORRECT ENTRIES IN THIS LOG BOOK.

The end result is 3598 QSO's not updated.

Have I missed something?

A lot of the QSO's have no Call Signs in the down loaded file due to the Paper Submissions back in the 70's/80's so understand that but others should be ok.

Thanks

Ian G4GIR

 


Re: Granted

G4GIR
 

Hello Bob,
 
I guess you refer to the AWARDS, section?
 
If so,
Add a new drop down item "DXCC_SINGLE BAND" in the AWARDS drop down , ADD new Single band entries in the Set/show awards credits, for QSL and LOTW Submitted and Granted  i.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc for all the valid DXCC bands.
 
Not sure why the programme is adding DXCC_MIXED to most of the QSO's, but if you can find out why!! Would be good to stop it.
 
I am at the moment running my log through ADIF Master to remove all the DXCC_MIXED flags so I can get a clean Log that only shows Confirmed and Worked, then intend to Scraper it to get the Granted's in that I can, then manually do the ones that DXCC don't have records for on LOTW.
 
73
 
Ian
 
G4GIR
 
p.s how many hours sleep do you get!!!
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <k4cy@...>
Sent: 14/09/2021 18:19:47
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

OK Ian, all caught up. What fo you need? 73.
On 09/14/2021 4:05 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Ok Bob,
Thanks, If I create a new log, export my log from DXBase, import it to L32, will any of the QSO's be set to Granted in L32?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 14/09/2021 08:11:08
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Not in the immediate future. Too many irons in the fire. 73.
On 09/14/2021 3:03 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Morning Bob
Do you think you will be carrying out some re-work in the Awards area?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Main Broadband < i.frith@...>
Sent: 13/09/2021 09:00:46
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Hello Bob
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
Yes that is correct as Pete has said, also in that first submission for a QSO with 1A0 on 40m, it will count for DXCC_SINGLE BAND 40m, any further submission of a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m, should be rejected.
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
Again I believe what you say does happen in L32, but as we agree that is not how it should be. The shot below for 1A0 is how DXCC_MXD should look, except the 60m and 13cm aren't valid bands for any DXCC  Award. I manually changed the 1A0 entries to reflect this but as you can see every country in the shot needs changing!!! Not quite sure how I can go about that. I do have a back up before I started to sort out the GRANTED slots which maybe half correct!!
I think probably all it needs is new selections in the Set/show awards credit dialogue? and a new drop down selection in the DXCC AWARDS TABLE, say DXCC_SINGLE BAND and DXCC_CHALLENGE?
Hope this helps.
73
Ian G4GIR
Image6B5BBED6
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 22:16:39
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, please confirm my understanding of what you said ... Is this correct ...
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
OK, what happens if you now submit another CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m? What if any, credits are granted?
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 3:59 PM g4girhb0 via groups.io <ian.frith@...> wrote:
Wish I could, the ole Prostate giving me gyp!
Cheers mate.
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 20:07:17
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I can still pee as high up the bathroom was as I did when I was 16. However, when I had to clean my own shoes, my competitive instinct was dampened (no pun intended). SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 2:47 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Bob,
Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits.
I guess for as to why, this is a function of mans competitive instinct!!! As for how, The process is clearly documented on the ARRL DXCC web site.
But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award.
It is credited for both, but only ONCE, If the first 1A0 QSO on 20mtr CW is submitted it will be GRANTED for Mixed/CW and 20mtr, if you then submit another card for 1A0 on 40mtr CW it will only be credited for 40mtr not CW or MIXED.
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
Can you send me a link to that statement please. It sounds correct, i.e any valid country on any valid mode, is 1 credit for mixed DXCC, but that country won't count again on any other mode or Band for MIXED DXCC.
I think what I would like to see is additional drop down selections in the DXCC Awards table, I.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc, etc for all the Single Band Awards, that would remove any ambiguities between CW/MXD/PHONE or DATA. Of course it would need the same selections in the Set/show awards credits, so you could select the correct GRANTED Flag.
Just my thoughts Bob, wonder if anyone else has any constructive comments?
Thanks for the brilliant software.
73 Ian G4GIR
.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 17:17:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits. But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award. SeventyThree(s).
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
On 09/12/2021 5:25 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Connected to this subject, Am I right in assuming the following.
To check my Single band DXCC Granted QSO's I use the Mixed DXCC Awards Table, which should reflect the QSO's held in LOTW for each band, indicated by the highlighted CALL SIGN I have set up.
However as this is the Mixed DXCC Table, how can I see which QSO is Granted for the Mixed DXCC Award? i.e there is only 1 QSO for e.g 1A0 that will count for Mixed DXCC and the DXCC Mode it was credited for, but as all slots are GRANTED I can't tell which was the MIXED QSO!
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: g4girhb0 via groups.io < ian.frith@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 20:04:01
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Thanks Bob
I knew how to get to the set/show menu, what I found was that when I checked DXCC-CW under QSL GRANTED for a QSO with G4XXX applied it and exited it, then refreshed the AWARD screen it still showed the SLOT as CONFIRMED not GRANTED, what I think I have to do is  check DXCC-CW and DXCC-MIXED? Seems odd when I already have a MIXED GRANTED CREDIT with G4AAA. Is this the correct procedure?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 17:55:35
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

To get to the set/show menu, you click on a QSO in the logbook entry window. If that QSO was on 80m, you add whatever credit to 80m. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/11/2021 12:21 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Hello Garry,
The beer and yours were very nice!!
But, today I have come across another problem.
In the manual it states L32 can track DXCC single band awards, but when I use Set/show awards credits, there is no option to set i.e a QSO Granted for 12m or 80m!
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Hinson < Gary@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 10/09/2021 19:59:21
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Well done mate!

 

Have one for me!

 

73

G.

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 11 September 2021 06:00
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Garry

 

Thought I would let you know I have sorted the Granted status out on all the DXCC awards, using the method I mentioned and the DXCC documentation from 1980 onward, so glad I kept all the records.

 

Time for a Beer I think.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 22:03:42

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Thanks for the reply Garry,

 

Yes Clublog is updating the records where it can, i.e with the records held on LOTW that match my log with correct dates and callsigns.

 

I agree that the DXCC team would have checked the cards for complete validity, however they didn't enter all the details.

 

Here is a shot of my CW DXCC record, note the DXCC number codes, click on e.g. Monaco, and the next shot is what you get. So this is what Club Log gets and what scraper downloads, hence all the errors in the import, they just can't match.

 

As you say the years match but the dates have to match to be able to update to G.

 

I have found a work around though.

 

As my DXBase Log agrees with LOTW as far as the totals are concerned, I have exported all credited DXCC Records as an ADIF file,  converted that to a Text file, imported that to Excel,  deleted all the irrelevant columns, added the | symbols in the relevant places, converted the dates to what L32 needs, saved it as a text file, removed the TAB delimiters. I now have a Text file that looks like a scraper file.

 

When I run it in L32, it updated around 2000 QSO's but some 700 odd QSO's were rejected.

 

So got some work to sort out the rejected QSO's.

 

I can't believe nobody else has had this problem?

 

Still it all helps to pass the time!!!

 

Give me your thoughts please.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

 

ImageB506D7B9

 

 

 

ImageBCE6A559

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 20:14:14

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Hi Ian,

 

Club Log should update its records if you run the LoTW Sync function, and give it a little time to do its thing.  If that isn’t working properly, please contact Club Log support.  Michael G7VJR and team is very responsive.

 

QSL cards that were submitted for DXCC credit long ago – before the online application process was invented – were processed rapidly by an overworked DXCC team taking shortcuts to keep the backlog under control.  As far as I know, they did check and record the DX callsigns, bands and modes from the cards, plus the years, but I’m not entirely sure about that.  You should be able to check the recorded data through the DXCC screens on LoTW, and I would expect those same details to be exported in the DXCC ADIF exports.

 

ARRL Scraper is one of Bob’s brainwaves.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 23:07
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Gary,

 

Yes I have done the Club log sync, before I tried the scraper and it doesn't up date the QSO's only the latest new granted QSO's,

 

For instance on 160m L32 shows 14 QSO's Granted out of 141 Countries confirmed. 141 is my awarded total on 160m. Clublog shows the same, 141 C and 14 V.

 

So looks like Club Log isn't getting the info from LOTW?

 

My 30m Total was only 17 Granted, in L32, aafter modifying the ARRL scraper file and importing to L32 I now have 239 G and 273 C, so I guess the missing 34 are old QSO's which LOTW has no Call details for, therefore I guess its a manual trawl through?

 

As for the ARRL SCRAPER.EXE, I tried to find a newer version but nothing, Is it an ARRL file or Bobs or ?

 

Cheers

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 00:44:09

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


That’s a few decades in Internet Time! 😊

 

I’m not sure how I got it, but mine is 7 months old:

 

Aside from using an ancient ARRL Scraper, have you tried the Club Log route, Ian?  In essence:

1.      Get your log reasonably up-to-date in Club Log

2.      Trigger Club Log’s LoTW Sync function … and QRX a little while for it to grab the info and update your Club Log log accordingly

3.      Use Logger32’s File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log)  function to get the info from Club log and update your local log

 

Overall it is quicker and more reliable than the Scraper approach for me i.e. about 30 mins to get all my ~61k LoTW confirmations:

 

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 08:22
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

1.0.16, DATED 2015!! Guess its a wee bit old?

 

73

 

Ian

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob <k4cy@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 08/09/2021 21:07:48

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


... and what is the version number of the ARRL scraper.exe? SeventyThree(s).

On 09/08/2021 3:58 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:

Hello All

I have tried to update my QSO's to Granted using ARRL Scraper.

I get the file down loaded ok around 3000 QSO's

Try to Import into L32 but every QSO is rejected.

When I start the import I get a message in the box saying Waiting, Valid Callsigns for this Certificate are: G4GIR, 0 QSO's WILL BE REDIRECTED TO CORRECT ENTRIES IN THIS LOG BOOK.

The end result is 3598 QSO's not updated.

Have I missed something?

A lot of the QSO's have no Call Signs in the down loaded file due to the Paper Submissions back in the 70's/80's so understand that but others should be ok.

Thanks

Ian G4GIR

 


Re: User Manual for version 4.0.276 - Possibly correction needed -

Gary Hinson
 

HI Peter,

 

Thanks for that.  You’re right: there is no <Enable data transfer to external Log> option under Settings → Reporting in the current version of JTDX.  Like Logger32, JTDX is being actively maintained so I guess the option wording was updated without me noticing the change.

 

It's not exactly obvious but the JTDX Settings → Reporting tab has separate areas for TCP and UDP settings [in the JTDX v2.2.157-32A-rc1 beta version I am running anyway]:

 

 

So to transfer QSO data from JTDX to Logger32, you need to tell it to use either UDP (<Enable sending logged QSO ADIF data> as I do) which works with Logger32’s UDP functions such as the UDP BandMap, or TCP (<Enable sending to TCP server>) which communicates with the TCP server in Logger32. 

 

Don’t enable both TCP and UDP logging or I think you will log duplicate QSOs!

 

I will correct the manual for the next release.  Thanks for letting me know about the issue so clearly.

 

Bob and the beta crew are still working on parallel logging so more changes are likely in that area too.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Eckersberger
Sent: 14 September 2021 22:15
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: [hamlogger] User Manual for version 4.0.276 - Possibly correction needed -

 

Hello,

Today I occupied myself with "Parallel Logging". When reading the sector "31.3  TCP configuration for JTDX" I probably found a small glitch. Look at the 2 pics below. The last sentence in pic 1 says ...

Still in the JTDX settings <Reporting> tab, click to enable <Enable data transfer to external Log>, telling JTDX to send QSO data out as in ADIF format ....   and so on.


Here is pic 1





Here now pic 2.

At last in my JTDX version 2.2.156 looks the open <Reporting> tab slightly different.



As you may see yourself there is no <Enable data transfer to external Log>. But we do have <Enable sending log QSO ADIF data>. When checking this one (and all the other necessary settings as well) parallel logging works just fine. TAL Bob!

Something different but in connection with "parallel logging" practice ... When making some additional modifications within one of the logbooks the same mods are immediately implemented within the second logbook. Fantastic! With one exception. If one enters the QSL-manager this data is not transferred to the other logbook. For one reason or an other. Its even worse. If in the other logbook a QSL-manager is already present that data will be immediately deleted when trying to make any changes. This would make sense when the NEW QSL-manager would be stored in both logs. But this is not the case.

Final words to the manual itself ... A real master piece! Thanks a lot (TAL) as well for that.


73 de Peter, OE3EPW


Re: Granted

Bob
 

OK Ian, all caught up. What fo you need? 73.

On 09/14/2021 4:05 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Ok Bob,
 
Thanks, If I create a new log, export my log from DXBase, import it to L32, will any of the QSO's be set to Granted in L32?
 
73
Ian G4GIR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 14/09/2021 08:11:08
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Not in the immediate future. Too many irons in the fire. 73.
On 09/14/2021 3:03 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Morning Bob
 
Do you think you will be carrying out some re-work in the Awards area?
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Main Broadband < i.frith@...>
Sent: 13/09/2021 09:00:46
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Hello Bob
 
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
 
Yes that is correct as Pete has said, also in that first submission for a QSO with 1A0 on 40m, it will count for DXCC_SINGLE BAND 40m, any further submission of a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m, should be rejected.
 
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
 
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
 
Again I believe what you say does happen in L32, but as we agree that is not how it should be. The shot below for 1A0 is how DXCC_MXD should look, except the 60m and 13cm aren't valid bands for any DXCC  Award. I manually changed the 1A0 entries to reflect this but as you can see every country in the shot needs changing!!! Not quite sure how I can go about that. I do have a back up before I started to sort out the GRANTED slots which maybe half correct!!
 
I think probably all it needs is new selections in the Set/show awards credit dialogue? and a new drop down selection in the DXCC AWARDS TABLE, say DXCC_SINGLE BAND and DXCC_CHALLENGE?
 
Hope this helps.
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
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73
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 22:16:39
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, please confirm my understanding of what you said ... Is this correct ...
 
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
 
OK, what happens if you now submit another CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m? What if any, credits are granted?
 
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
 
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 3:59 PM g4girhb0 via groups.io <ian.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Wish I could, the ole Prostate giving me gyp!
 
Cheers mate.
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 20:07:17
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I can still pee as high up the bathroom was as I did when I was 16. However, when I had to clean my own shoes, my competitive instinct was dampened (no pun intended). SeventyThree(s).
 
On 09/12/2021 2:47 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Bob,
 
Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits.
 
I guess for as to why, this is a function of mans competitive instinct!!! As for how, The process is clearly documented on the ARRL DXCC web site.
 
But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award.
 
It is credited for both, but only ONCE, If the first 1A0 QSO on 20mtr CW is submitted it will be GRANTED for Mixed/CW and 20mtr, if you then submit another card for 1A0 on 40mtr CW it will only be credited for 40mtr not CW or MIXED.
 
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
 
Can you send me a link to that statement please. It sounds correct, i.e any valid country on any valid mode, is 1 credit for mixed DXCC, but that country won't count again on any other mode or Band for MIXED DXCC.
 
I think what I would like to see is additional drop down selections in the DXCC Awards table, I.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc, etc for all the Single Band Awards, that would remove any ambiguities between CW/MXD/PHONE or DATA. Of course it would need the same selections in the Set/show awards credits, so you could select the correct GRANTED Flag.
 
Just my thoughts Bob, wonder if anyone else has any constructive comments?
 
 
Thanks for the brilliant software.
 
73 Ian G4GIR
.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 17:17:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits. But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award. SeventyThree(s).
 
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
On 09/12/2021 5:25 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Connected to this subject, Am I right in assuming the following.
 
To check my Single band DXCC Granted QSO's I use the Mixed DXCC Awards Table, which should reflect the QSO's held in LOTW for each band, indicated by the highlighted CALL SIGN I have set up.
 
However as this is the Mixed DXCC Table, how can I see which QSO is Granted for the Mixed DXCC Award? i.e there is only 1 QSO for e.g 1A0 that will count for Mixed DXCC and the DXCC Mode it was credited for, but as all slots are GRANTED I can't tell which was the MIXED QSO!
 
73
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: g4girhb0 via groups.io < ian.frith@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 20:04:01
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Thanks Bob
 
I knew how to get to the set/show menu, what I found was that when I checked DXCC-CW under QSL GRANTED for a QSO with G4XXX applied it and exited it, then refreshed the AWARD screen it still showed the SLOT as CONFIRMED not GRANTED, what I think I have to do is  check DXCC-CW and DXCC-MIXED? Seems odd when I already have a MIXED GRANTED CREDIT with G4AAA. Is this the correct procedure?
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 17:55:35
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

To get to the set/show menu, you click on a QSO in the logbook entry window. If that QSO was on 80m, you add whatever credit to 80m. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/11/2021 12:21 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Hello Garry,
 
The beer and yours were very nice!!
 
But, today I have come across another problem.
 
In the manual it states L32 can track DXCC single band awards, but when I use Set/show awards credits, there is no option to set i.e a QSO Granted for 12m or 80m!
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Hinson < Gary@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 10/09/2021 19:59:21
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Well done mate!

 

Have one for me!

 

73

G.

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 11 September 2021 06:00
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Garry

 

Thought I would let you know I have sorted the Granted status out on all the DXCC awards, using the method I mentioned and the DXCC documentation from 1980 onward, so glad I kept all the records.

 

Time for a Beer I think.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 22:03:42

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Thanks for the reply Garry,

 

Yes Clublog is updating the records where it can, i.e with the records held on LOTW that match my log with correct dates and callsigns.

 

I agree that the DXCC team would have checked the cards for complete validity, however they didn't enter all the details.

 

Here is a shot of my CW DXCC record, note the DXCC number codes, click on e.g. Monaco, and the next shot is what you get. So this is what Club Log gets and what scraper downloads, hence all the errors in the import, they just can't match.

 

As you say the years match but the dates have to match to be able to update to G.

 

I have found a work around though.

 

As my DXBase Log agrees with LOTW as far as the totals are concerned, I have exported all credited DXCC Records as an ADIF file,  converted that to a Text file, imported that to Excel,  deleted all the irrelevant columns, added the | symbols in the relevant places, converted the dates to what L32 needs, saved it as a text file, removed the TAB delimiters. I now have a Text file that looks like a scraper file.

 

When I run it in L32, it updated around 2000 QSO's but some 700 odd QSO's were rejected.

 

So got some work to sort out the rejected QSO's.

 

I can't believe nobody else has had this problem?

 

Still it all helps to pass the time!!!

 

Give me your thoughts please.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 20:14:14

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Hi Ian,

 

Club Log should update its records if you run the LoTW Sync function, and give it a little time to do its thing.  If that isn’t working properly, please contact Club Log support.  Michael G7VJR and team is very responsive.

 

QSL cards that were submitted for DXCC credit long ago – before the online application process was invented – were processed rapidly by an overworked DXCC team taking shortcuts to keep the backlog under control.  As far as I know, they did check and record the DX callsigns, bands and modes from the cards, plus the years, but I’m not entirely sure about that.  You should be able to check the recorded data through the DXCC screens on LoTW, and I would expect those same details to be exported in the DXCC ADIF exports.

 

ARRL Scraper is one of Bob’s brainwaves.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 23:07
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Gary,

 

Yes I have done the Club log sync, before I tried the scraper and it doesn't up date the QSO's only the latest new granted QSO's,

 

For instance on 160m L32 shows 14 QSO's Granted out of 141 Countries confirmed. 141 is my awarded total on 160m. Clublog shows the same, 141 C and 14 V.

 

So looks like Club Log isn't getting the info from LOTW?

 

My 30m Total was only 17 Granted, in L32, aafter modifying the ARRL scraper file and importing to L32 I now have 239 G and 273 C, so I guess the missing 34 are old QSO's which LOTW has no Call details for, therefore I guess its a manual trawl through?

 

As for the ARRL SCRAPER.EXE, I tried to find a newer version but nothing, Is it an ARRL file or Bobs or ?

 

Cheers

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 00:44:09

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


That’s a few decades in Internet Time! 😊

 

I’m not sure how I got it, but mine is 7 months old:

 

Aside from using an ancient ARRL Scraper, have you tried the Club Log route, Ian?  In essence:

1.      Get your log reasonably up-to-date in Club Log

2.      Trigger Club Log’s LoTW Sync function … and QRX a little while for it to grab the info and update your Club Log log accordingly

3.      Use Logger32’s File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log)  function to get the info from Club log and update your local log

 

Overall it is quicker and more reliable than the Scraper approach for me i.e. about 30 mins to get all my ~61k LoTW confirmations:

 

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 08:22
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

1.0.16, DATED 2015!! Guess its a wee bit old?

 

73

 

Ian

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob <k4cy@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 08/09/2021 21:07:48

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


... and what is the version number of the ARRL scraper.exe? SeventyThree(s).

On 09/08/2021 3:58 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:

Hello All

I have tried to update my QSO's to Granted using ARRL Scraper.

I get the file down loaded ok around 3000 QSO's

Try to Import into L32 but every QSO is rejected.

When I start the import I get a message in the box saying Waiting, Valid Callsigns for this Certificate are: G4GIR, 0 QSO's WILL BE REDIRECTED TO CORRECT ENTRIES IN THIS LOG BOOK.

The end result is 3598 QSO's not updated.

Have I missed something?

A lot of the QSO's have no Call Signs in the down loaded file due to the Paper Submissions back in the 70's/80's so understand that but others should be ok.

Thanks

Ian G4GIR

 


User Manual for version 4.0.276 - Possibly correction needed -

Peter Eckersberger
 

Hello,

Today I occupied myself with "Parallel Logging". When reading the sector "31.3  TCP configuration for JTDX" I probably found a small glitch. Look at the 2 pics below. The last sentence in pic 1 says ...

Still in the JTDX settings <Reporting> tab, click to enable <Enable data transfer to external Log>, telling JTDX to send QSO data out as in ADIF format ....   and so on.


Here is pic 1





Here now pic 2.

At last in my JTDX version 2.2.156 looks the open <Reporting> tab slightly different.



As you may see yourself there is no <Enable data transfer to external Log>. But we do have <Enable sending log QSO ADIF data>. When checking this one (and all the other necessary settings as well) parallel logging works just fine. TAL Bob!

Something different but in connection with "parallel logging" practice ... When making some additional modifications within one of the logbooks the same mods are immediately implemented within the second logbook. Fantastic! With one exception. If one enters the QSL-manager this data is not transferred to the other logbook. For one reason or an other. Its even worse. If in the other logbook a QSL-manager is already present that data will be immediately deleted when trying to make any changes. This would make sense when the NEW QSL-manager would be stored in both logs. But this is not the case.

Final words to the manual itself ... A real master piece! Thanks a lot (TAL) as well for that.


73 de Peter, OE3EPW


Re: Granted

Bob
 

I have no idea. It depends on what the ADIF output of DXBase looks like. 73.

On 09/14/2021 4:05 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Ok Bob,
 
Thanks, If I create a new log, export my log from DXBase, import it to L32, will any of the QSO's be set to Granted in L32?
 
73
Ian G4GIR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 14/09/2021 08:11:08
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Not in the immediate future. Too many irons in the fire. 73.
On 09/14/2021 3:03 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Morning Bob
 
Do you think you will be carrying out some re-work in the Awards area?
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Main Broadband < i.frith@...>
Sent: 13/09/2021 09:00:46
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Hello Bob
 
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
 
Yes that is correct as Pete has said, also in that first submission for a QSO with 1A0 on 40m, it will count for DXCC_SINGLE BAND 40m, any further submission of a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m, should be rejected.
 
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
 
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
 
Again I believe what you say does happen in L32, but as we agree that is not how it should be. The shot below for 1A0 is how DXCC_MXD should look, except the 60m and 13cm aren't valid bands for any DXCC  Award. I manually changed the 1A0 entries to reflect this but as you can see every country in the shot needs changing!!! Not quite sure how I can go about that. I do have a back up before I started to sort out the GRANTED slots which maybe half correct!!
 
I think probably all it needs is new selections in the Set/show awards credit dialogue? and a new drop down selection in the DXCC AWARDS TABLE, say DXCC_SINGLE BAND and DXCC_CHALLENGE?
 
Hope this helps.
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
Image6B5BBED6
 
 
73
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 22:16:39
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, please confirm my understanding of what you said ... Is this correct ...
 
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
 
OK, what happens if you now submit another CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m? What if any, credits are granted?
 
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
 
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 3:59 PM g4girhb0 via groups.io <ian.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Wish I could, the ole Prostate giving me gyp!
 
Cheers mate.
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 20:07:17
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I can still pee as high up the bathroom was as I did when I was 16. However, when I had to clean my own shoes, my competitive instinct was dampened (no pun intended). SeventyThree(s).
 
On 09/12/2021 2:47 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Bob,
 
Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits.
 
I guess for as to why, this is a function of mans competitive instinct!!! As for how, The process is clearly documented on the ARRL DXCC web site.
 
But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award.
 
It is credited for both, but only ONCE, If the first 1A0 QSO on 20mtr CW is submitted it will be GRANTED for Mixed/CW and 20mtr, if you then submit another card for 1A0 on 40mtr CW it will only be credited for 40mtr not CW or MIXED.
 
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
 
Can you send me a link to that statement please. It sounds correct, i.e any valid country on any valid mode, is 1 credit for mixed DXCC, but that country won't count again on any other mode or Band for MIXED DXCC.
 
I think what I would like to see is additional drop down selections in the DXCC Awards table, I.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc, etc for all the Single Band Awards, that would remove any ambiguities between CW/MXD/PHONE or DATA. Of course it would need the same selections in the Set/show awards credits, so you could select the correct GRANTED Flag.
 
Just my thoughts Bob, wonder if anyone else has any constructive comments?
 
 
Thanks for the brilliant software.
 
73 Ian G4GIR
.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 17:17:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits. But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award. SeventyThree(s).
 
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
On 09/12/2021 5:25 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Connected to this subject, Am I right in assuming the following.
 
To check my Single band DXCC Granted QSO's I use the Mixed DXCC Awards Table, which should reflect the QSO's held in LOTW for each band, indicated by the highlighted CALL SIGN I have set up.
 
However as this is the Mixed DXCC Table, how can I see which QSO is Granted for the Mixed DXCC Award? i.e there is only 1 QSO for e.g 1A0 that will count for Mixed DXCC and the DXCC Mode it was credited for, but as all slots are GRANTED I can't tell which was the MIXED QSO!
 
73
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: g4girhb0 via groups.io < ian.frith@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 20:04:01
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Thanks Bob
 
I knew how to get to the set/show menu, what I found was that when I checked DXCC-CW under QSL GRANTED for a QSO with G4XXX applied it and exited it, then refreshed the AWARD screen it still showed the SLOT as CONFIRMED not GRANTED, what I think I have to do is  check DXCC-CW and DXCC-MIXED? Seems odd when I already have a MIXED GRANTED CREDIT with G4AAA. Is this the correct procedure?
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 17:55:35
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

To get to the set/show menu, you click on a QSO in the logbook entry window. If that QSO was on 80m, you add whatever credit to 80m. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/11/2021 12:21 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Hello Garry,
 
The beer and yours were very nice!!
 
But, today I have come across another problem.
 
In the manual it states L32 can track DXCC single band awards, but when I use Set/show awards credits, there is no option to set i.e a QSO Granted for 12m or 80m!
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Hinson < Gary@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 10/09/2021 19:59:21
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Well done mate!

 

Have one for me!

 

73

G.

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 11 September 2021 06:00
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Garry

 

Thought I would let you know I have sorted the Granted status out on all the DXCC awards, using the method I mentioned and the DXCC documentation from 1980 onward, so glad I kept all the records.

 

Time for a Beer I think.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 22:03:42

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Thanks for the reply Garry,

 

Yes Clublog is updating the records where it can, i.e with the records held on LOTW that match my log with correct dates and callsigns.

 

I agree that the DXCC team would have checked the cards for complete validity, however they didn't enter all the details.

 

Here is a shot of my CW DXCC record, note the DXCC number codes, click on e.g. Monaco, and the next shot is what you get. So this is what Club Log gets and what scraper downloads, hence all the errors in the import, they just can't match.

 

As you say the years match but the dates have to match to be able to update to G.

 

I have found a work around though.

 

As my DXBase Log agrees with LOTW as far as the totals are concerned, I have exported all credited DXCC Records as an ADIF file,  converted that to a Text file, imported that to Excel,  deleted all the irrelevant columns, added the | symbols in the relevant places, converted the dates to what L32 needs, saved it as a text file, removed the TAB delimiters. I now have a Text file that looks like a scraper file.

 

When I run it in L32, it updated around 2000 QSO's but some 700 odd QSO's were rejected.

 

So got some work to sort out the rejected QSO's.

 

I can't believe nobody else has had this problem?

 

Still it all helps to pass the time!!!

 

Give me your thoughts please.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

 

ImageB506D7B9

 

 

 

ImageBCE6A559

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 20:14:14

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Hi Ian,

 

Club Log should update its records if you run the LoTW Sync function, and give it a little time to do its thing.  If that isn’t working properly, please contact Club Log support.  Michael G7VJR and team is very responsive.

 

QSL cards that were submitted for DXCC credit long ago – before the online application process was invented – were processed rapidly by an overworked DXCC team taking shortcuts to keep the backlog under control.  As far as I know, they did check and record the DX callsigns, bands and modes from the cards, plus the years, but I’m not entirely sure about that.  You should be able to check the recorded data through the DXCC screens on LoTW, and I would expect those same details to be exported in the DXCC ADIF exports.

 

ARRL Scraper is one of Bob’s brainwaves.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 23:07
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Gary,

 

Yes I have done the Club log sync, before I tried the scraper and it doesn't up date the QSO's only the latest new granted QSO's,

 

For instance on 160m L32 shows 14 QSO's Granted out of 141 Countries confirmed. 141 is my awarded total on 160m. Clublog shows the same, 141 C and 14 V.

 

So looks like Club Log isn't getting the info from LOTW?

 

My 30m Total was only 17 Granted, in L32, aafter modifying the ARRL scraper file and importing to L32 I now have 239 G and 273 C, so I guess the missing 34 are old QSO's which LOTW has no Call details for, therefore I guess its a manual trawl through?

 

As for the ARRL SCRAPER.EXE, I tried to find a newer version but nothing, Is it an ARRL file or Bobs or ?

 

Cheers

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 00:44:09

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


That’s a few decades in Internet Time! 😊

 

I’m not sure how I got it, but mine is 7 months old:

 

Aside from using an ancient ARRL Scraper, have you tried the Club Log route, Ian?  In essence:

1.      Get your log reasonably up-to-date in Club Log

2.      Trigger Club Log’s LoTW Sync function … and QRX a little while for it to grab the info and update your Club Log log accordingly

3.      Use Logger32’s File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log)  function to get the info from Club log and update your local log

 

Overall it is quicker and more reliable than the Scraper approach for me i.e. about 30 mins to get all my ~61k LoTW confirmations:

 

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 08:22
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

1.0.16, DATED 2015!! Guess its a wee bit old?

 

73

 

Ian

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob <k4cy@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 08/09/2021 21:07:48

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


... and what is the version number of the ARRL scraper.exe? SeventyThree(s).

On 09/08/2021 3:58 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:

Hello All

I have tried to update my QSO's to Granted using ARRL Scraper.

I get the file down loaded ok around 3000 QSO's

Try to Import into L32 but every QSO is rejected.

When I start the import I get a message in the box saying Waiting, Valid Callsigns for this Certificate are: G4GIR, 0 QSO's WILL BE REDIRECTED TO CORRECT ENTRIES IN THIS LOG BOOK.

The end result is 3598 QSO's not updated.

Have I missed something?

A lot of the QSO's have no Call Signs in the down loaded file due to the Paper Submissions back in the 70's/80's so understand that but others should be ok.

Thanks

Ian G4GIR

 


Re: Granted

G4GIR
 

Ok Bob,
 
Thanks, If I create a new log, export my log from DXBase, import it to L32, will any of the QSO's be set to Granted in L32?
 
73
Ian G4GIR
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <k4cy@...>
Sent: 14/09/2021 08:11:08
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Not in the immediate future. Too many irons in the fire. 73.
On 09/14/2021 3:03 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Morning Bob
Do you think you will be carrying out some re-work in the Awards area?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Main Broadband < i.frith@...>
Sent: 13/09/2021 09:00:46
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Hello Bob
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
Yes that is correct as Pete has said, also in that first submission for a QSO with 1A0 on 40m, it will count for DXCC_SINGLE BAND 40m, any further submission of a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m, should be rejected.
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
Again I believe what you say does happen in L32, but as we agree that is not how it should be. The shot below for 1A0 is how DXCC_MXD should look, except the 60m and 13cm aren't valid bands for any DXCC  Award. I manually changed the 1A0 entries to reflect this but as you can see every country in the shot needs changing!!! Not quite sure how I can go about that. I do have a back up before I started to sort out the GRANTED slots which maybe half correct!!
I think probably all it needs is new selections in the Set/show awards credit dialogue? and a new drop down selection in the DXCC AWARDS TABLE, say DXCC_SINGLE BAND and DXCC_CHALLENGE?
Hope this helps.
73
Ian G4GIR
Image6B5BBED6
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 22:16:39
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, please confirm my understanding of what you said ... Is this correct ...
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
OK, what happens if you now submit another CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m? What if any, credits are granted?
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 3:59 PM g4girhb0 via groups.io <ian.frith@...> wrote:
Wish I could, the ole Prostate giving me gyp!
Cheers mate.
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 20:07:17
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I can still pee as high up the bathroom was as I did when I was 16. However, when I had to clean my own shoes, my competitive instinct was dampened (no pun intended). SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 2:47 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Bob,
Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits.
I guess for as to why, this is a function of mans competitive instinct!!! As for how, The process is clearly documented on the ARRL DXCC web site.
But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award.
It is credited for both, but only ONCE, If the first 1A0 QSO on 20mtr CW is submitted it will be GRANTED for Mixed/CW and 20mtr, if you then submit another card for 1A0 on 40mtr CW it will only be credited for 40mtr not CW or MIXED.
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
Can you send me a link to that statement please. It sounds correct, i.e any valid country on any valid mode, is 1 credit for mixed DXCC, but that country won't count again on any other mode or Band for MIXED DXCC.
I think what I would like to see is additional drop down selections in the DXCC Awards table, I.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc, etc for all the Single Band Awards, that would remove any ambiguities between CW/MXD/PHONE or DATA. Of course it would need the same selections in the Set/show awards credits, so you could select the correct GRANTED Flag.
Just my thoughts Bob, wonder if anyone else has any constructive comments?
Thanks for the brilliant software.
73 Ian G4GIR
.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 17:17:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits. But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award. SeventyThree(s).
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
On 09/12/2021 5:25 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Connected to this subject, Am I right in assuming the following.
To check my Single band DXCC Granted QSO's I use the Mixed DXCC Awards Table, which should reflect the QSO's held in LOTW for each band, indicated by the highlighted CALL SIGN I have set up.
However as this is the Mixed DXCC Table, how can I see which QSO is Granted for the Mixed DXCC Award? i.e there is only 1 QSO for e.g 1A0 that will count for Mixed DXCC and the DXCC Mode it was credited for, but as all slots are GRANTED I can't tell which was the MIXED QSO!
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: g4girhb0 via groups.io < ian.frith@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 20:04:01
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Thanks Bob
I knew how to get to the set/show menu, what I found was that when I checked DXCC-CW under QSL GRANTED for a QSO with G4XXX applied it and exited it, then refreshed the AWARD screen it still showed the SLOT as CONFIRMED not GRANTED, what I think I have to do is  check DXCC-CW and DXCC-MIXED? Seems odd when I already have a MIXED GRANTED CREDIT with G4AAA. Is this the correct procedure?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 17:55:35
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

To get to the set/show menu, you click on a QSO in the logbook entry window. If that QSO was on 80m, you add whatever credit to 80m. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/11/2021 12:21 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Hello Garry,
The beer and yours were very nice!!
But, today I have come across another problem.
In the manual it states L32 can track DXCC single band awards, but when I use Set/show awards credits, there is no option to set i.e a QSO Granted for 12m or 80m!
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Hinson < Gary@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 10/09/2021 19:59:21
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Well done mate!

 

Have one for me!

 

73

G.

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 11 September 2021 06:00
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Garry

 

Thought I would let you know I have sorted the Granted status out on all the DXCC awards, using the method I mentioned and the DXCC documentation from 1980 onward, so glad I kept all the records.

 

Time for a Beer I think.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 22:03:42

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Thanks for the reply Garry,

 

Yes Clublog is updating the records where it can, i.e with the records held on LOTW that match my log with correct dates and callsigns.

 

I agree that the DXCC team would have checked the cards for complete validity, however they didn't enter all the details.

 

Here is a shot of my CW DXCC record, note the DXCC number codes, click on e.g. Monaco, and the next shot is what you get. So this is what Club Log gets and what scraper downloads, hence all the errors in the import, they just can't match.

 

As you say the years match but the dates have to match to be able to update to G.

 

I have found a work around though.

 

As my DXBase Log agrees with LOTW as far as the totals are concerned, I have exported all credited DXCC Records as an ADIF file,  converted that to a Text file, imported that to Excel,  deleted all the irrelevant columns, added the | symbols in the relevant places, converted the dates to what L32 needs, saved it as a text file, removed the TAB delimiters. I now have a Text file that looks like a scraper file.

 

When I run it in L32, it updated around 2000 QSO's but some 700 odd QSO's were rejected.

 

So got some work to sort out the rejected QSO's.

 

I can't believe nobody else has had this problem?

 

Still it all helps to pass the time!!!

 

Give me your thoughts please.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

 

ImageB506D7B9

 

 

 

ImageBCE6A559

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 20:14:14

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Hi Ian,

 

Club Log should update its records if you run the LoTW Sync function, and give it a little time to do its thing.  If that isn’t working properly, please contact Club Log support.  Michael G7VJR and team is very responsive.

 

QSL cards that were submitted for DXCC credit long ago – before the online application process was invented – were processed rapidly by an overworked DXCC team taking shortcuts to keep the backlog under control.  As far as I know, they did check and record the DX callsigns, bands and modes from the cards, plus the years, but I’m not entirely sure about that.  You should be able to check the recorded data through the DXCC screens on LoTW, and I would expect those same details to be exported in the DXCC ADIF exports.

 

ARRL Scraper is one of Bob’s brainwaves.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 23:07
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Gary,

 

Yes I have done the Club log sync, before I tried the scraper and it doesn't up date the QSO's only the latest new granted QSO's,

 

For instance on 160m L32 shows 14 QSO's Granted out of 141 Countries confirmed. 141 is my awarded total on 160m. Clublog shows the same, 141 C and 14 V.

 

So looks like Club Log isn't getting the info from LOTW?

 

My 30m Total was only 17 Granted, in L32, aafter modifying the ARRL scraper file and importing to L32 I now have 239 G and 273 C, so I guess the missing 34 are old QSO's which LOTW has no Call details for, therefore I guess its a manual trawl through?

 

As for the ARRL SCRAPER.EXE, I tried to find a newer version but nothing, Is it an ARRL file or Bobs or ?

 

Cheers

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 00:44:09

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


That’s a few decades in Internet Time! 😊

 

I’m not sure how I got it, but mine is 7 months old:

 

Aside from using an ancient ARRL Scraper, have you tried the Club Log route, Ian?  In essence:

1.      Get your log reasonably up-to-date in Club Log

2.      Trigger Club Log’s LoTW Sync function … and QRX a little while for it to grab the info and update your Club Log log accordingly

3.      Use Logger32’s File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log)  function to get the info from Club log and update your local log

 

Overall it is quicker and more reliable than the Scraper approach for me i.e. about 30 mins to get all my ~61k LoTW confirmations:

 

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 08:22
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

1.0.16, DATED 2015!! Guess its a wee bit old?

 

73

 

Ian

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob <k4cy@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 08/09/2021 21:07:48

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


... and what is the version number of the ARRL scraper.exe? SeventyThree(s).

On 09/08/2021 3:58 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:

Hello All

I have tried to update my QSO's to Granted using ARRL Scraper.

I get the file down loaded ok around 3000 QSO's

Try to Import into L32 but every QSO is rejected.

When I start the import I get a message in the box saying Waiting, Valid Callsigns for this Certificate are: G4GIR, 0 QSO's WILL BE REDIRECTED TO CORRECT ENTRIES IN THIS LOG BOOK.

The end result is 3598 QSO's not updated.

Have I missed something?

A lot of the QSO's have no Call Signs in the down loaded file due to the Paper Submissions back in the 70's/80's so understand that but others should be ok.

Thanks

Ian G4GIR

 


Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Bob
 

Not in the immediate future. Too many irons in the fire. 73.

On 09/14/2021 3:03 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Morning Bob
 
Do you think you will be carrying out some re-work in the Awards area?
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Main Broadband < i.frith@...>
Sent: 13/09/2021 09:00:46
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Hello Bob
 
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
 
Yes that is correct as Pete has said, also in that first submission for a QSO with 1A0 on 40m, it will count for DXCC_SINGLE BAND 40m, any further submission of a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m, should be rejected.
 
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
 
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
 
Again I believe what you say does happen in L32, but as we agree that is not how it should be. The shot below for 1A0 is how DXCC_MXD should look, except the 60m and 13cm aren't valid bands for any DXCC  Award. I manually changed the 1A0 entries to reflect this but as you can see every country in the shot needs changing!!! Not quite sure how I can go about that. I do have a back up before I started to sort out the GRANTED slots which maybe half correct!!
 
I think probably all it needs is new selections in the Set/show awards credit dialogue? and a new drop down selection in the DXCC AWARDS TABLE, say DXCC_SINGLE BAND and DXCC_CHALLENGE?
 
Hope this helps.
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
Image6B5BBED6
 
 
73
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 22:16:39
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, please confirm my understanding of what you said ... Is this correct ...
 
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
 
OK, what happens if you now submit another CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m? What if any, credits are granted?
 
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
 
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 3:59 PM g4girhb0 via groups.io <ian.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Wish I could, the ole Prostate giving me gyp!
 
Cheers mate.
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 20:07:17
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I can still pee as high up the bathroom was as I did when I was 16. However, when I had to clean my own shoes, my competitive instinct was dampened (no pun intended). SeventyThree(s).
 
On 09/12/2021 2:47 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Bob,
 
Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits.
 
I guess for as to why, this is a function of mans competitive instinct!!! As for how, The process is clearly documented on the ARRL DXCC web site.
 
But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award.
 
It is credited for both, but only ONCE, If the first 1A0 QSO on 20mtr CW is submitted it will be GRANTED for Mixed/CW and 20mtr, if you then submit another card for 1A0 on 40mtr CW it will only be credited for 40mtr not CW or MIXED.
 
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
 
Can you send me a link to that statement please. It sounds correct, i.e any valid country on any valid mode, is 1 credit for mixed DXCC, but that country won't count again on any other mode or Band for MIXED DXCC.
 
I think what I would like to see is additional drop down selections in the DXCC Awards table, I.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc, etc for all the Single Band Awards, that would remove any ambiguities between CW/MXD/PHONE or DATA. Of course it would need the same selections in the Set/show awards credits, so you could select the correct GRANTED Flag.
 
Just my thoughts Bob, wonder if anyone else has any constructive comments?
 
 
Thanks for the brilliant software.
 
73 Ian G4GIR
.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 17:17:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits. But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award. SeventyThree(s).
 
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
On 09/12/2021 5:25 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Connected to this subject, Am I right in assuming the following.
 
To check my Single band DXCC Granted QSO's I use the Mixed DXCC Awards Table, which should reflect the QSO's held in LOTW for each band, indicated by the highlighted CALL SIGN I have set up.
 
However as this is the Mixed DXCC Table, how can I see which QSO is Granted for the Mixed DXCC Award? i.e there is only 1 QSO for e.g 1A0 that will count for Mixed DXCC and the DXCC Mode it was credited for, but as all slots are GRANTED I can't tell which was the MIXED QSO!
 
73
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: g4girhb0 via groups.io < ian.frith@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 20:04:01
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Thanks Bob
 
I knew how to get to the set/show menu, what I found was that when I checked DXCC-CW under QSL GRANTED for a QSO with G4XXX applied it and exited it, then refreshed the AWARD screen it still showed the SLOT as CONFIRMED not GRANTED, what I think I have to do is  check DXCC-CW and DXCC-MIXED? Seems odd when I already have a MIXED GRANTED CREDIT with G4AAA. Is this the correct procedure?
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 17:55:35
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

To get to the set/show menu, you click on a QSO in the logbook entry window. If that QSO was on 80m, you add whatever credit to 80m. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/11/2021 12:21 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
 
 
Hello Garry,
 
The beer and yours were very nice!!
 
But, today I have come across another problem.
 
In the manual it states L32 can track DXCC single band awards, but when I use Set/show awards credits, there is no option to set i.e a QSO Granted for 12m or 80m!
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Hinson < Gary@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 10/09/2021 19:59:21
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Well done mate!

 

Have one for me!

 

73

G.

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 11 September 2021 06:00
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Garry

 

Thought I would let you know I have sorted the Granted status out on all the DXCC awards, using the method I mentioned and the DXCC documentation from 1980 onward, so glad I kept all the records.

 

Time for a Beer I think.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 22:03:42

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Thanks for the reply Garry,

 

Yes Clublog is updating the records where it can, i.e with the records held on LOTW that match my log with correct dates and callsigns.

 

I agree that the DXCC team would have checked the cards for complete validity, however they didn't enter all the details.

 

Here is a shot of my CW DXCC record, note the DXCC number codes, click on e.g. Monaco, and the next shot is what you get. So this is what Club Log gets and what scraper downloads, hence all the errors in the import, they just can't match.

 

As you say the years match but the dates have to match to be able to update to G.

 

I have found a work around though.

 

As my DXBase Log agrees with LOTW as far as the totals are concerned, I have exported all credited DXCC Records as an ADIF file,  converted that to a Text file, imported that to Excel,  deleted all the irrelevant columns, added the | symbols in the relevant places, converted the dates to what L32 needs, saved it as a text file, removed the TAB delimiters. I now have a Text file that looks like a scraper file.

 

When I run it in L32, it updated around 2000 QSO's but some 700 odd QSO's were rejected.

 

So got some work to sort out the rejected QSO's.

 

I can't believe nobody else has had this problem?

 

Still it all helps to pass the time!!!

 

Give me your thoughts please.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

 

ImageB506D7B9

 

 

 

ImageBCE6A559

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 20:14:14

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Hi Ian,

 

Club Log should update its records if you run the LoTW Sync function, and give it a little time to do its thing.  If that isn’t working properly, please contact Club Log support.  Michael G7VJR and team is very responsive.

 

QSL cards that were submitted for DXCC credit long ago – before the online application process was invented – were processed rapidly by an overworked DXCC team taking shortcuts to keep the backlog under control.  As far as I know, they did check and record the DX callsigns, bands and modes from the cards, plus the years, but I’m not entirely sure about that.  You should be able to check the recorded data through the DXCC screens on LoTW, and I would expect those same details to be exported in the DXCC ADIF exports.

 

ARRL Scraper is one of Bob’s brainwaves.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 23:07
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Gary,

 

Yes I have done the Club log sync, before I tried the scraper and it doesn't up date the QSO's only the latest new granted QSO's,

 

For instance on 160m L32 shows 14 QSO's Granted out of 141 Countries confirmed. 141 is my awarded total on 160m. Clublog shows the same, 141 C and 14 V.

 

So looks like Club Log isn't getting the info from LOTW?

 

My 30m Total was only 17 Granted, in L32, aafter modifying the ARRL scraper file and importing to L32 I now have 239 G and 273 C, so I guess the missing 34 are old QSO's which LOTW has no Call details for, therefore I guess its a manual trawl through?

 

As for the ARRL SCRAPER.EXE, I tried to find a newer version but nothing, Is it an ARRL file or Bobs or ?

 

Cheers

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 00:44:09

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


That’s a few decades in Internet Time! 😊

 

I’m not sure how I got it, but mine is 7 months old:

 

Aside from using an ancient ARRL Scraper, have you tried the Club Log route, Ian?  In essence:

1.      Get your log reasonably up-to-date in Club Log

2.      Trigger Club Log’s LoTW Sync function … and QRX a little while for it to grab the info and update your Club Log log accordingly

3.      Use Logger32’s File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log)  function to get the info from Club log and update your local log

 

Overall it is quicker and more reliable than the Scraper approach for me i.e. about 30 mins to get all my ~61k LoTW confirmations:

 

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 08:22
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

1.0.16, DATED 2015!! Guess its a wee bit old?

 

73

 

Ian

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob <k4cy@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 08/09/2021 21:07:48

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


... and what is the version number of the ARRL scraper.exe? SeventyThree(s).

On 09/08/2021 3:58 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:

Hello All

I have tried to update my QSO's to Granted using ARRL Scraper.

I get the file down loaded ok around 3000 QSO's

Try to Import into L32 but every QSO is rejected.

When I start the import I get a message in the box saying Waiting, Valid Callsigns for this Certificate are: G4GIR, 0 QSO's WILL BE REDIRECTED TO CORRECT ENTRIES IN THIS LOG BOOK.

The end result is 3598 QSO's not updated.

Have I missed something?

A lot of the QSO's have no Call Signs in the down loaded file due to the Paper Submissions back in the 70's/80's so understand that but others should be ok.

Thanks

Ian G4GIR

 


Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

G4GIR
 

Morning Bob
 
Do you think you will be carrying out some re-work in the Awards area?
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Main Broadband <i.frith@...>
Sent: 13/09/2021 09:00:46
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Hello Bob
 
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
 
Yes that is correct as Pete has said, also in that first submission for a QSO with 1A0 on 40m, it will count for DXCC_SINGLE BAND 40m, any further submission of a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m, should be rejected.
 
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
 
Again I believe what you say does happen in L32, but as we agree that is not how it should be. The shot below for 1A0 is how DXCC_MXD should look, except the 60m and 13cm aren't valid bands for any DXCC  Award. I manually changed the 1A0 entries to reflect this but as you can see every country in the shot needs changing!!! Not quite sure how I can go about that. I do have a back up before I started to sort out the GRANTED slots which maybe half correct!!
 
I think probably all it needs is new selections in the Set/show awards credit dialogue? and a new drop down selection in the DXCC AWARDS TABLE, say DXCC_SINGLE BAND and DXCC_CHALLENGE?
 
Hope this helps.
 
73
 
Ian G4GIR
 
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73
Ian G4GIR
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <k4cy@...>
Sent: 12/09/2021 22:16:39
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, please confirm my understanding of what you said ... Is this correct ...
Submit a CW QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credit is granted for DXCC_MIXED and DXCC_CW. Submit a RTTY QSO with 1A0 on 40m for credit. Credits granted for DXCC_DIGITAL only because you already have DXCC_MIXED credit for 1A0 in 40m.
OK, what happens if you now submit another CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m? What if any, credits are granted?
The reason I ask is that I think Logger32 needs some work in this regard. If memory serves, submitting a CW QSO for 1A0 on 40m Logger32 will flag credit for both DXCC_CW andDXCC_MIXED. Then submitting a RTTY QSO for 1A0 on 40m will flag credit for both DXCC_DIGITAL andDXCC_MIXED.
Easy enough to tet. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 3:59 PM g4girhb0 via groups.io <ian.frith@...> wrote:
Wish I could, the ole Prostate giving me gyp!
Cheers mate.
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 20:07:17
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I can still pee as high up the bathroom was as I did when I was 16. However, when I had to clean my own shoes, my competitive instinct was dampened (no pun intended). SeventyThree(s).
On 09/12/2021 2:47 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Bob,
Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits.
I guess for as to why, this is a function of mans competitive instinct!!! As for how, The process is clearly documented on the ARRL DXCC web site.
But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award.
It is credited for both, but only ONCE, If the first 1A0 QSO on 20mtr CW is submitted it will be GRANTED for Mixed/CW and 20mtr, if you then submit another card for 1A0 on 40mtr CW it will only be credited for 40mtr not CW or MIXED.
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
Can you send me a link to that statement please. It sounds correct, i.e any valid country on any valid mode, is 1 credit for mixed DXCC, but that country won't count again on any other mode or Band for MIXED DXCC.
I think what I would like to see is additional drop down selections in the DXCC Awards table, I.e DXCC_160, DXCC_80 etc, etc for all the Single Band Awards, that would remove any ambiguities between CW/MXD/PHONE or DATA. Of course it would need the same selections in the Set/show awards credits, so you could select the correct GRANTED Flag.
Just my thoughts Bob, wonder if anyone else has any constructive comments?
Thanks for the brilliant software.
73 Ian G4GIR
.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 12/09/2021 17:17:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Granted

Ian, I have absolutely no comprehension of how (or for that matter, why) one applies for DXCC credits. But surely, when submitting an application for (say a CW contact), if the omnipotent bless the contact why wouldn't/isn't it be automatically credited for both the DXCC_CW and the DXCC_MIXED award. SeventyThree(s).
PS. And I checked, the DXCC award listing DXCC_MIXED it the aggregate of all credits for that Country/band.
On 09/12/2021 5:25 AM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Connected to this subject, Am I right in assuming the following.
To check my Single band DXCC Granted QSO's I use the Mixed DXCC Awards Table, which should reflect the QSO's held in LOTW for each band, indicated by the highlighted CALL SIGN I have set up.
However as this is the Mixed DXCC Table, how can I see which QSO is Granted for the Mixed DXCC Award? i.e there is only 1 QSO for e.g 1A0 that will count for Mixed DXCC and the DXCC Mode it was credited for, but as all slots are GRANTED I can't tell which was the MIXED QSO!
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: g4girhb0 via groups.io < ian.frith@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 20:04:01
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Thanks Bob
I knew how to get to the set/show menu, what I found was that when I checked DXCC-CW under QSL GRANTED for a QSO with G4XXX applied it and exited it, then refreshed the AWARD screen it still showed the SLOT as CONFIRMED not GRANTED, what I think I have to do is  check DXCC-CW and DXCC-MIXED? Seems odd when I already have a MIXED GRANTED CREDIT with G4AAA. Is this the correct procedure?
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob < k4cy@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 11/09/2021 17:55:35
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

To get to the set/show menu, you click on a QSO in the logbook entry window. If that QSO was on 80m, you add whatever credit to 80m. SeventyThree(s).
On 09/11/2021 12:21 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Hello Garry,
The beer and yours were very nice!!
But, today I have come across another problem.
In the manual it states L32 can track DXCC single band awards, but when I use Set/show awards credits, there is no option to set i.e a QSO Granted for 12m or 80m!
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Hinson < Gary@...>
Reply-To: < hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 10/09/2021 19:59:21
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

Well done mate!

 

Have one for me!

 

73

G.

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 11 September 2021 06:00
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Garry

 

Thought I would let you know I have sorted the Granted status out on all the DXCC awards, using the method I mentioned and the DXCC documentation from 1980 onward, so glad I kept all the records.

 

Time for a Beer I think.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 22:03:42

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Thanks for the reply Garry,

 

Yes Clublog is updating the records where it can, i.e with the records held on LOTW that match my log with correct dates and callsigns.

 

I agree that the DXCC team would have checked the cards for complete validity, however they didn't enter all the details.

 

Here is a shot of my CW DXCC record, note the DXCC number codes, click on e.g. Monaco, and the next shot is what you get. So this is what Club Log gets and what scraper downloads, hence all the errors in the import, they just can't match.

 

As you say the years match but the dates have to match to be able to update to G.

 

I have found a work around though.

 

As my DXBase Log agrees with LOTW as far as the totals are concerned, I have exported all credited DXCC Records as an ADIF file,  converted that to a Text file, imported that to Excel,  deleted all the irrelevant columns, added the | symbols in the relevant places, converted the dates to what L32 needs, saved it as a text file, removed the TAB delimiters. I now have a Text file that looks like a scraper file.

 

When I run it in L32, it updated around 2000 QSO's but some 700 odd QSO's were rejected.

 

So got some work to sort out the rejected QSO's.

 

I can't believe nobody else has had this problem?

 

Still it all helps to pass the time!!!

 

Give me your thoughts please.

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

 

 

ImageB506D7B9

 

 

 

ImageBCE6A559

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 20:14:14

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


Hi Ian,

 

Club Log should update its records if you run the LoTW Sync function, and give it a little time to do its thing.  If that isn’t working properly, please contact Club Log support.  Michael G7VJR and team is very responsive.

 

QSL cards that were submitted for DXCC credit long ago – before the online application process was invented – were processed rapidly by an overworked DXCC team taking shortcuts to keep the backlog under control.  As far as I know, they did check and record the DX callsigns, bands and modes from the cards, plus the years, but I’m not entirely sure about that.  You should be able to check the recorded data through the DXCC screens on LoTW, and I would expect those same details to be exported in the DXCC ADIF exports.

 

ARRL Scraper is one of Bob’s brainwaves.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 23:07
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

Hello Gary,

 

Yes I have done the Club log sync, before I tried the scraper and it doesn't up date the QSO's only the latest new granted QSO's,

 

For instance on 160m L32 shows 14 QSO's Granted out of 141 Countries confirmed. 141 is my awarded total on 160m. Clublog shows the same, 141 C and 14 V.

 

So looks like Club Log isn't getting the info from LOTW?

 

My 30m Total was only 17 Granted, in L32, aafter modifying the ARRL scraper file and importing to L32 I now have 239 G and 273 C, so I guess the missing 34 are old QSO's which LOTW has no Call details for, therefore I guess its a manual trawl through?

 

As for the ARRL SCRAPER.EXE, I tried to find a newer version but nothing, Is it an ARRL file or Bobs or ?

 

Cheers

 

73

 

Ian G4GIR

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 09/09/2021 00:44:09

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


That’s a few decades in Internet Time! 😊

 

I’m not sure how I got it, but mine is 7 months old:

 

Aside from using an ancient ARRL Scraper, have you tried the Club Log route, Ian?  In essence:

1.      Get your log reasonably up-to-date in Club Log

2.      Trigger Club Log’s LoTW Sync function … and QRX a little while for it to grab the info and update your Club Log log accordingly

3.      Use Logger32’s File → Synchronize LoTW (from Club Log)  function to get the info from Club log and update your local log

 

Overall it is quicker and more reliable than the Scraper approach for me i.e. about 30 mins to get all my ~61k LoTW confirmations:

 

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of G4GIR via groups.io
Sent: 09 September 2021 08:22
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted

 

1.0.16, DATED 2015!! Guess its a wee bit old?

 

73

 

Ian

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob <k4cy@...>

Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>

Sent: 08/09/2021 21:07:48

Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Granted


... and what is the version number of the ARRL scraper.exe? SeventyThree(s).

On 09/08/2021 3:58 PM G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:

Hello All

I have tried to update my QSO's to Granted using ARRL Scraper.

I get the file down loaded ok around 3000 QSO's

Try to Import into L32 but every QSO is rejected.

When I start the import I get a message in the box saying Waiting, Valid Callsigns for this Certificate are: G4GIR, 0 QSO's WILL BE REDIRECTED TO CORRECT ENTRIES IN THIS LOG BOOK.

The end result is 3598 QSO's not updated.

Have I missed something?

A lot of the QSO's have no Call Signs in the down loaded file due to the Paper Submissions back in the 70's/80's so understand that but others should be ok.

Thanks

Ian G4GIR

 


Re: re-building a log on another computer #info

w5jmw
 

Understand,thanks..will ue the editor approach//

On 2021-09-13 18:15, Gary Hinson wrote:
Hi W5JMW.
I _think_ I understand what you’re asking although “a Column
report” nearly foxed me.
The short answer is no. Logger32’s QSO editing tools generally work
one-QSO-at-a-time, thanks to a deliberate application design decision
to reduce the possibility of us making a pig’s ear of our log by
inappropriate multi-QSO edits.
However, Logger32 is ADIF compliant, hence we can export our log to
ADIF, edit the ADIF file using some other tool (such as ADIF Master or
Notepad), then import the edited ADIF into Logger32 as a new logbook.
Most editors allow search-and-replace changes, so you could change the
contents of specific ADIF fields for multiple QSOs that way.
One big advantage of this approach is that your original log should
remain intact in case the changes don’t go to plan, but I urge users
to make log backups before doing anything as risky as this e.g. save a
copy of the ADIF log export to a USB stick.
73
Gary ZL2iFB
From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of w5jmw
Sent: 14 September 2021 10:53
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: [hamlogger] re-building a log on another computer #info
I have a log on another computer.It ends in 1980.Now I have a good
file on my main computer.By good I mean,the qsl info,as far as
received by qsl or by lotw.OK,my question before I just delete this
file and overwrite.Can a Column report be deleted by any other way
than 1 row at a time.Example."q" is in the column.I want to delete
that and say "y"..Thanks
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[3] https://groups.io/g/hamlogger/post
[4] https://groups.io/g/hamlogger/mutehashtag/info
[5] https://groups.io/g/hamlogger/editsub/796390
[6] https://groups.io/g/hamlogger/leave/8057516/796390/1701416439/xyzzy


Re: re-building a log on another computer #info

Gary Hinson
 

Hi W5JMW.

 

I think I understand what you’re asking although “a Column report” nearly foxed me.

 

The short answer is no.  Logger32’s QSO editing tools generally work one-QSO-at-a-time, thanks to a deliberate application design decision to reduce the possibility of us making a pig’s ear of our log by inappropriate multi-QSO edits.

 

However, Logger32 is ADIF compliant, hence we can export our log to ADIF, edit the ADIF file using some other tool (such as ADIF Master or Notepad), then import the edited ADIF into Logger32 as a new logbook.  Most editors allow search-and-replace changes, so you could change the contents of specific ADIF fields for multiple QSOs that way.

 

One big advantage of this approach is that your original log should remain intact in case the changes don’t go to plan, but I urge users to make log backups before doing anything as risky as this e.g. save a copy of the ADIF log export to a USB stick.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of w5jmw
Sent: 14 September 2021 10:53
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: [hamlogger] re-building a log on another computer #info

 

I have a log on another computer.It ends in 1980.Now I have a good file on my main computer.By good I mean,the qsl info,as far as received by qsl or by lotw.OK,my question before I just delete this file and overwrite.Can a Column report be deleted by any other way than 1 row at a time.Example."q" is in the column.I want to delete that and say "y"..Thanks


Re: re-building a log on another computer #info

Bob
 

Someone else needs to answer this. I have no idea what he said, or what he's trying to do ... Obviously my biorhythms are at a minimum. SeventyThree(s).

On 09/13/2021 6:53 PM w5jmw <w5jmw@...> wrote:
 
 
I have a log on another computer.It ends in 1980.Now I have a good file on my main computer.By good I mean,the qsl info,as far as received by qsl or by lotw.OK,my question before I just delete this file and overwrite.Can a Column report be deleted by any other way than 1 row at a time.Example."q" is in the column.I want to delete that and say "y"..Thanks


re-building a log on another computer #info

w5jmw
 

I have a log on another computer.It ends in 1980.Now I have a good file on my main computer.By good I mean,the qsl info,as far as received by qsl or by lotw.OK,my question before I just delete this file and overwrite.Can a Column report be deleted by any other way than 1 row at a time.Example."q" is in the column.I want to delete that and say "y"..Thanks

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