Sources and their links


johnfirr@...
 

I am in the process of doing a long and laborious tidy up of my FH data as over the years I have managed to adopt several different naming styles for sources and I now have a system I am really happy with so I am trying to get everything in the same format.

I have a problem in that some of my earliest entries were very sloppy so I have for example a source in the records window merely titled "general internet search" ( I,m sure we have all done it !!). Now that source is shown as being used as a citation ten times. Problem I have is I cant work out how I find the ten individuals that the citations relate to?

I,m guessing that as usual I have missed something obvious but is there an easy way to find where a source has been used directly from the records window ( or is there a query etc?)

Thanks in anticipation of the help I always receive.
John


Brian Horridge
 

John

There is a standard query "Individuals linked to Source" that will prompt you for the relevant source and then displays a list of all those Individuals where that source has been used.  It won't give the actual data field where used but at least you know the individual.

Brian

On 23/09/2020 07:53, johnfirr via groups.io wrote:

I am in the process of doing a long and laborious tidy up of my FH data as over the years I have managed to adopt several different naming styles for sources and I now have a system I am really happy with so I am trying to get everything in the same format.

I have a problem in that some of my earliest entries were very sloppy so I have for example a source in the records window merely titled "general internet search" ( I,m sure we have all done it !!). Now that source is shown as being used as a citation ten times. Problem I have is I cant work out how I find the ten individuals that the citations relate to?

I,m guessing that as usual I have missed something obvious but is there an easy way to find where a source has been used directly from the records window ( or is there a query etc?)

Thanks in anticipation of the help I always receive.
John

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Andy Kennedy
 

Hi John,

There is a custom query called More Facts Linked to a Source which will display the specific events to which you have attached the citations (as long as the citation is among the first six for that event).

You can download if from the FHUG site here: https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=fhugdownloads:contents:more_facts_linked_to_a_source_v4_onwards#description

Andy


Maureen Mitchell <wheatroyd@...>
 

HI john, 

I had this problem a little while ago and found this on the FH website.   It's easy and works very well:

  • Select the Source in the main Records Window under the Sources
  • Open up the View menu and select Record Links….
  • The Record Links Dialogue will appear showing all individuals with Citations linked to this source.
  • By selecting one Individual in the Record Links dialogue it is possible to go straight to the properties for that individual by clicking on the Go To button.

Hope this helps

Maureen Mitchell

On 23 September 2020 at 07:53 "johnfirr via groups.io" <johnfirr@...> wrote:

I am in the process of doing a long and laborious tidy up of my FH data as over the years I have managed to adopt several different naming styles for sources and I now have a system I am really happy with so I am trying to get everything in the same format.

I have a problem in that some of my earliest entries were very sloppy so I have for example a source in the records window merely titled "general internet search" ( I,m sure we have all done it !!). Now that source is shown as being used as a citation ten times. Problem I have is I cant work out how I find the ten individuals that the citations relate to?

I,m guessing that as usual I have missed something obvious but is there an easy way to find where a source has been used directly from the records window ( or is there a query etc?)

Thanks in anticipation of the help I always receive.
John


Mike Tate
 

Yes, John see the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Finding where Records are used:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:finding_where_records_are_used

 

The most comprehensive solution is the Where Used Record Links plugin.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 


Mike Tate
 

Yes, Maureen, that will work, but with 10 Citations gets quite tedious.
Also, trying to find exactly where the Citation is among all the facts is laborious.
The Query and Plugin solutions take you directly to all 10 Citations in one go.
Mike Tate


Maureen Mitchell <wheatroyd@...>
 

Thank you Mike,

Most of the citations I checked had only 2 or 3 individuals attached.

However, when I come across a larger amount, I will try the Query & Plugin method.

Kind Regards
Maureen Mitchell

On 23 September 2020 at 13:12 Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:


Yes, Maureen, that will work, but with 10 Citations gets quite tedious.
Also, trying to find exactly where the Citation is among all the facts is laborious.
The Query and Plugin solutions take you directly to all 10 Citations in one go.
Mike Tate







johnfirr@...
 

Thanks everyone. Apologies for delay in getting back but have been out today. Great advice as usual and Mike the "where used" plugin works a treat. Interestingly I also spotted a plugin by Jane Taubman called "all citations for a source" which does exactly what it says on the tin. Guess I should have checked the plugin store first.

thanks again, the help on here is always appreciated
John


Lizzie Allen
 

Hi John

In the Records Window under the Sources tab, select the source in
question and then go to the View menu at the top of the screen and
click on "Record Links". This will bring up a list of records linked
to that source. You can filter the results by record type or show all
of them. When you select one of the records, a "Go To" button appears
which when you click it will take you straight to the Property Box for
that record.

Hope that helps.

Lizzie



On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 07:53, johnfirr via groups.io
<johnfirr@...> wrote:

I am in the process of doing a long and laborious tidy up of my FH data as over the years I have managed to adopt several different naming styles for sources and I now have a system I am really happy with so I am trying to get everything in the same format.

I have a problem in that some of my earliest entries were very sloppy so I have for example a source in the records window merely titled "general internet search" ( I,m sure we have all done it !!). Now that source is shown as being used as a citation ten times. Problem I have is I cant work out how I find the ten individuals that the citations relate to?

I,m guessing that as usual I have missed something obvious but is there an easy way to find where a source has been used directly from the records window ( or is there a query etc?)

Thanks in anticipation of the help I always receive.
John


Lorna Craig
 

In addition to a query there is also a plugin called ‘List All Citations for a Source’ which includes the exact fields where the source has been cited. You can click on the relevant cell in the Results set to open the Property Box with the focus on the right fact.  It also includes records of all types, not just Individual records. (e.g. the source may be used in a family record or a note record).

 

But the quickest way to see a list of records where the Source is used is to select the Source in the Records window then use View > Record Links.  This list will include records of all types but not the exact fields where the source is used.

 

Lorna

 

 

From: Brian Horridge via groups.io
Sent: 23 September 2020 08:49
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Sources and their links

 

John

There is a standard query "Individuals linked to Source" that will prompt you for the relevant source and then displays a list of all those Individuals where that source has been used.  It won't give the actual data field where used but at least you know the individual.

Brian

On 23/09/2020 07:53, johnfirr via groups.io wrote:

I am in the process of doing a long and laborious tidy up of my FH data as over the years I have managed to adopt several different naming styles for sources and I now have a system I am really happy with so I am trying to get everything in the same format.

I have a problem in that some of my earliest entries were very sloppy so I have for example a source in the records window merely titled "general internet search" ( I,m sure we have all done it !!). Now that source is shown as being used as a citation ten times. Problem I have is I cant work out how I find the ten individuals that the citations relate to?

I,m guessing that as usual I have missed something obvious but is there an easy way to find where a source has been used directly from the records window ( or is there a query etc?)

Thanks in anticipation of the help I always receive.
John

 

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