Size of my chart. #new


Edward Sneithe
 

I am trying to get a large chart to print at my local printer. I have tried using every format available from FH, jpeg, tiff, png, psd, pdf, etc. I have printed them out previous to a jpeg that my printer could print. The chart is now so large that the resulting image file has not been created correctly and shows either as a  black rectangle or the image software says it is incorrectly formatted.

I have tried to create smaller charts without a problem.  It may be that the resulting image is greater than 30,000 pixels by 30,000 pixels which I believe is a limit for many software packages.

Can this be gotten around or am I stuck with just generating smaller charts?


Wal Mills
 

Edward,

I suggest you take it on a USB stick to your local Office Works and print it out at A2 or so.
They can accept most formats but prefer pdf. Maximum file size is 250mb.
It will only be a few dollars.

Regards
Wal

On 10/08/2022 9:04 am, Edward Sneithe via groups.io wrote:
I am trying to get a large chart to print at my local printer. I have tried using every format available from FH, jpeg, tiff, png, psd, pdf, etc. I have printed them out previous to a jpeg that my printer could print. The chart is now so large that the resulting image file has not been created correctly and shows either as a  black rectangle or the image software says it is incorrectly formatted.

I have tried to create smaller charts without a problem.  It may be that the resulting image is greater than 30,000 pixels by 30,000 pixels which I believe is a limit for many software packages.

Can this be gotten around or am I stuck with just generating smaller charts?


Lorna Craig
 

Edward, the recommended format for saving large charts is PDF.    

Check out the detailed advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base here:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/single-pdf-page-of-a-diagram/

It includes advice on how to adjust the scale of the diagram if necessary.

 

 

From: Edward Sneithe via groups.io
Sent: 10 August 2022 00:04
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Size of my chart. #new

 

I am trying to get a large chart to print at my local printer. I have tried using every format available from FH, jpeg, tiff, png, psd, pdf, etc. I have printed them out previous to a jpeg that my printer could print. The chart is now so large that the resulting image file has not been created correctly and shows either as a  black rectangle or the image software says it is incorrectly formatted.

I have tried to create smaller charts without a problem.  It may be that the resulting image is greater than 30,000 pixels by 30,000 pixels which I believe is a limit for many software packages.

Can this be gotten around or am I stuck with just generating smaller charts?

 


Mike Tate
 

Edward,

The best format to produce large diagram charts is usually PDF.

It would help if you told us what size paper your printer handles and the size of the diagram chart as given by Diagram > Diagram Statistics…

 

Have you followed the advice in FHUG Knowledge Base ‘Single PDF Page of a Diagram’?

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/single-pdf-page-of-a-diagram/

That advises about how to adjust diagram size and scaling particularly for large diagrams.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Sneithe via groups.io
Sent: 10 August 2022 00:04
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Size of my chart. #new

 

I am trying to get a large chart to print at my local printer. I have tried using every format available from FH, jpeg, tiff, png, psd, pdf, etc. I have printed them out previous to a jpeg that my printer could print. The chart is now so large that the resulting image file has not been created correctly and shows either as a  black rectangle or the image software says it is incorrectly formatted.

I have tried to create smaller charts without a problem.  It may be that the resulting image is greater than 30,000 pixels by 30,000 pixels which I believe is a limit for many software packages.

Can this be gotten around or am I stuck with just generating smaller charts?


Edward Sneithe
 

My local commercial printer can print images up to 4 feet wide by 500 feet long. I don't have a chart that size but the capability is there. I have experimented with adjusting the size of the chart and if I keep the image under 30,000 by 30,000 pixels it all works ok using any  of the image formats. I just need to keep the pixels at a level where I can read the details of the boxes on the chart.

When I try to create a PDF I can't seem to get it as one chart but it is separated into many charts in the same PDF, which is not what I want. I just read the file ( https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/single-pdf-page-of-a-diagram/ ) and I will experiment with all the options there but it seems that there can be a limit of 128" or 200" for a chart so I will need to experiment if I can print my chart at a resolution that will be readable.

I was trying to get an all relatives chart and that is relatively large. It is currently 3 ft by 75 ft, ( 36" X 900" )

Thank you all for your suggestions and I will let you know if I can get the chart into a PDF but it may be too large and I may need to come up with another scheme.



On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 05:13:45 AM EDT, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:


Edward,

The best format to produce large diagram charts is usually PDF.

It would help if you told us what size paper your printer handles and the size of the diagram chart as given by Diagram > Diagram Statistics…

 

Have you followed the advice in FHUG Knowledge Base ‘Single PDF Page of a Diagram’?

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/single-pdf-page-of-a-diagram/

That advises about how to adjust diagram size and scaling particularly for large diagrams.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Sneithe via groups.io
Sent: 10 August 2022 00:04
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Size of my chart. #new

 

I am trying to get a large chart to print at my local printer. I have tried using every format available from FH, jpeg, tiff, png, psd, pdf, etc. I have printed them out previous to a jpeg that my printer could print. The chart is now so large that the resulting image file has not been created correctly and shows either as a  black rectangle or the image software says it is incorrectly formatted.

I have tried to create smaller charts without a problem.  It may be that the resulting image is greater than 30,000 pixels by 30,000 pixels which I believe is a limit for many software packages.

Can this be gotten around or am I stuck with just generating smaller charts?


Trevor Rix
 

Edward - you may have already tried this. If the print to pdf dialogue says that the pdf will be on two pages, abort, go to diagram options and reduce the scaling to 50%. The diagram will then fit on one page. Use the same technique to reduce the scaling for multiple pages.

Alternatively contact My History who specialise in both Family Historian and pdf printing.


Victor Markham
 

Edward many years ago I emailed my family tree to a company who printed it in a long roll of paper which I gave to a cousin in Canada when I went to meet them. Sorry I can't recall the company but think it was based in Rotherham.
If this company still exists they could do this for you

Victor

On 10 Aug 2022, at 16:05, Trevor Rix <trevor@...> wrote:
Edward - you may have already tried this. If the print to pdf dialogue says that the pdf will be on two pages, abort, go to diagram options and reduce the scaling to 50%. The diagram will then fit on one page. Use the same technique to reduce the scaling for multiple pages.

Alternatively contact My History who specialise in both Family Historian and pdf printing.


Malcolm Austen
 

Possibly Ron O'Neill in Wolverhampton?

http://www.genealogyprinters.com

Malcolm.

On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 17:08:35 +0100, Victor Markham via groups.io <victor@...> wrote:

Edward many years ago I emailed my family tree to a company who printed it in a long roll of paper which I gave to a cousin in Canada when I went to meet them. Sorry I can't recall the company but think it was based in Rotherham.
If this company still exists they could do this for you

Victor

On 10 Aug 2022, at 16:05, Trevor Rix <trevor@...> wrote:
Edward - you may have already tried this. If the print to pdf dialogue says that the pdf will be on two pages, abort, go to diagram options and reduce the scaling to 50%. The diagram will then fit on one page. Use the same technique to reduce the scaling for multiple pages.

Alternatively contact My History who specialise in both Family Historian and pdf printing.



--
Malcolm Austen - email: malcolm.austen@...


colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

The FHUG Knowledge Base has some other possibilities for large printing services: Publishers and Printers


stephen.challis@...
 

I print my larger charts on an A3 printer (with ‘Avoid Page Boundaries’ switched on), cut off the edges of the pages with an A3 guillotine (so that there is no break in the lines at the edges of the pages when the pages are taped together) and tape them together with Scotch Magic tape (like Sellotape but matt, so it’s practically invisible and never goes brittle or yellow) which is currently about £10 for 132 metres on Amazon. I use small pieces of tape at the top and bottom of the pages on the front of the chart (but not covering data) so as to hold the pages in exactly the right position so the lines line up properly, and then turn the chart over and tape right down the join so that the pages are properly secured together. Another virtue of Scotch Magic tape is that it can be removed and repositioned for a short time afterwards.

 

You can have your chart as large (so as to be readable!) as you like – provided your prepared to put in the time, the paper and the Scotch tape, of course; you’re not restricted by the size of the paper. It’s one of the many brilliant things I love about this program.

 

It might be a bit more fiddly than using a professional printer but it’s quicker and far cheaper.

 

Stephen

 

Stephen Challis

Please reply to Stephen.Challis@...

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Sneithe via groups.io
Sent: 10 August 2022 12:55
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Size of my chart. #new

 

My local commercial printer can print images up to 4 feet wide by 500 feet long. I don't have a chart that size but the capability is there. I have experimented with adjusting the size of the chart and if I keep the image under 30,000 by 30,000 pixels it all works ok using any  of the image formats. I just need to keep the pixels at a level where I can read the details of the boxes on the chart.

 

When I try to create a PDF I can't seem to get it as one chart but it is separated into many charts in the same PDF, which is not what I want. I just read the file ( https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/single-pdf-page-of-a-diagram/ ) and I will experiment with all the options there but it seems that there can be a limit of 128" or 200" for a chart so I will need to experiment if I can print my chart at a resolution that will be readable.

 

I was trying to get an all relatives chart and that is relatively large. It is currently 3 ft by 75 ft, ( 36" X 900" )

 

Thank you all for your suggestions and I will let you know if I can get the chart into a PDF but it may be too large and I may need to come up with another scheme.

 

 

 

On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 05:13:45 AM EDT, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

 

 

Edward,

The best format to produce large diagram charts is usually PDF.

It would help if you told us what size paper your printer handles and the size of the diagram chart as given by Diagram > Diagram Statistics…

 

Have you followed the advice in FHUG Knowledge Base ‘Single PDF Page of a Diagram’?

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/single-pdf-page-of-a-diagram/

That advises about how to adjust diagram size and scaling particularly for large diagrams.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Sneithe via groups.io
Sent: 10 August 2022 00:04
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Size of my chart. #new

 

I am trying to get a large chart to print at my local printer. I have tried using every format available from FH, jpeg, tiff, png, psd, pdf, etc. I have printed them out previous to a jpeg that my printer could print. The chart is now so large that the resulting image file has not been created correctly and shows either as a  black rectangle or the image software says it is incorrectly formatted.

I have tried to create smaller charts without a problem.  It may be that the resulting image is greater than 30,000 pixels by 30,000 pixels which I believe is a limit for many software packages.

Can this be gotten around or am I stuck with just generating smaller charts?


David Burgess
 

Hi

Try "My History" at Denaby Main, South Yorkshire.  It is close to Rotherham.

https://www.my-history.co.uk/

They specialise in family history charts.

David Burgess


On 10/08/2022 17:08, Victor Markham via groups.io wrote:
Edward many years ago I emailed my family tree to a company who printed it in a long roll of paper which I gave to a cousin in Canada when I went to meet them. Sorry I can't recall the company but think it was based in Rotherham.
If this company still exists they could do this for you

Victor

On 10 Aug 2022, at 16:05, Trevor Rix <trevor@...> wrote:
Edward - you may have already tried this. If the print to pdf dialogue says that the pdf will be on two pages, abort, go to diagram options and reduce the scaling to 50%. The diagram will then fit on one page. Use the same technique to reduce the scaling for multiple pages.

Alternatively contact My History who specialise in both Family Historian and pdf printing.
-- 
David Burgess


Edward Sneithe
 

Thank you for all your suggestions. I may be able to use Stephens suggestion but I would not use the A3 but separate my chart into two pieces that I can get printed at my local printer. In B&W a print this zize will be less than $15. I can then cut the paper off at the end  and glue/tape them together to form a very large chart.
 
 Sometimes we get suggestions that don't answer the question directly but provide a whole new way of addressing our genealogical problems. My-History.co.uk has many useful items I can use. Thank you David.
 
 I will continue to look at PDFs but so far I have not been able to get the whole chart on one page and still be readable. The last chart I used the "both" chart which is not as full as all relatives therefore stayed small enough to fit into many formats.
 
 I looked at genealogyprinters.com but they work off  gecom and I don't have the same control as I do by using FH and my print would cost me about #82 which is more than my local printer.
 
 For the time being I will try to structure two charts the can be cut and taped together.


On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 01:49:43 PM EDT, David Burgess via groups.io <david.burgess42@...> wrote:


Hi

Try "My History" at Denaby Main, South Yorkshire.  It is close to Rotherham.

https://www.my-history.co.uk/

They specialise in family history charts.

David Burgess


On 10/08/2022 17:08, Victor Markham via groups.io wrote:
Edward many years ago I emailed my family tree to a company who printed it in a long roll of paper which I gave to a cousin in Canada when I went to meet them. Sorry I can't recall the company but think it was based in Rotherham.
If this company still exists they could do this for you

Victor

On 10 Aug 2022, at 16:05, Trevor Rix <trevor@...> wrote:
Edward - you may have already tried this. If the print to pdf dialogue says that the pdf will be on two pages, abort, go to diagram options and reduce the scaling to 50%. The diagram will then fit on one page. Use the same technique to reduce the scaling for multiple pages.

Alternatively contact My History who specialise in both Family Historian and pdf printing.
-- 
David Burgess