Holding Incomplete Data in FH


johnfirr@...
 

I hope I can explain this issue in such a way as it makes sense and would love to know how others approach this.

I like to use FH as my repository for everything as it avoids my having lots of bits of paper which I inevitably lose. However you sometimes come across a snippet of data that its difficult to fit in.

Specifically I was sent an obituary cutting by email that incicates that a James married Mavis and they had at least two children Sue and Andy. They also had four grandchildren and a great grandchild but at this stage I obviously dont know who the grandchildren or great garndchild belong to ( Sue or Andy)  as it doesnt give their surnames.

Now I dont want to do more work on this at the moment as I am wading through censuses as part of a one name study but want to capture them in FH to hold what I have. I can obviously put together a family group for Robert, Mavis, Sue and Andy but dont know at this stage how to slot in the grandchildren.

Does anyone else ever have this conundrum and how do you handle it ( or is it just down to my adopting a process that just doesnt make sense?)

regards
John Firr


colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

I’d add a unnamed dummy child of James and Mavis and hang the grandchildren off that; and add another dummy child to that ‘family’ and hang the great grandchildren off them. (I do the same thing if I find a grandchild living with grandparents in the census with no evidence of who their parent is.)

 

Given the data you describe, you can’t do anything else – you can’t be sure the grandchildren etc. descend from either Sue or Andy; they might belong to one or more other children not named in the obituary.

 

There are some more ideas here: Recording Credibility of Family Relationships – Family Historian User Group (fhug.org.uk)

 

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Subject: [family-historian] Holding Incomplete Data in FH

 

I hope I can explain this issue in such a way as it makes sense and would love to know how others approach this.

I like to use FH as my repository for everything as it avoids my having lots of bits of paper which I inevitably lose. However you sometimes come across a snippet of data that its difficult to fit in.

Specifically I was sent an obituary cutting by email that incicates that a James married Mavis and they had at least two children Sue and Andy. They also had four grandchildren and a great grandchild but at this stage I obviously dont know who the grandchildren or great garndchild belong to ( Sue or Andy)  as it doesnt give their surnames.

Now I dont want to do more work on this at the moment as I am wading through censuses as part of a one name study but want to capture them in FH to hold what I have. I can obviously put together a family group for Robert, Mavis, Sue and Andy but dont know at this stage how to slot in the grandchildren.

Does anyone else ever have this conundrum and how do you handle it ( or is it just down to my adopting a process that just doesnt make sense?)


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Victor Markham
 

Depending on the year of the obituary you can check FreeBMD and find out who the parents of the children are. I would can the article and add it to the death details of the person who died

Victor

On 19 Nov 2021, at 11:42, "johnfirr via groups.io" <yahoo.co.uk@groups.io target=_blank>johnfirr=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I hope I can explain this issue in such a way as it makes sense and would love to know how others approach this.

I like to use FH as my repository for everything as it avoids my having lots of bits of paper which I inevitably lose. However you sometimes come across a snippet of data that its difficult to fit in.

Specifically I was sent an obituary cutting by email that incicates that a James married Mavis and they had at least two children Sue and Andy. They also had four grandchildren and a great grandchild but at this stage I obviously dont know who the grandchildren or great garndchild belong to ( Sue or Andy)  as it doesnt give their surnames.

Now I dont want to do more work on this at the moment as I am wading through censuses as part of a one name study but want to capture them in FH to hold what I have. I can obviously put together a family group for Robert, Mavis, Sue and Andy but dont know at this stage how to slot in the grandchildren.

Does anyone else ever have this conundrum and how do you handle it ( or is it just down to my adopting a process that just doesnt make sense?)

regards
John Firr


Brian Horridge
 

John

One methodology I've used in my One Name Study where I was not (at that moment) sure who the male was would be add the wife and children / grandchildren as a complete but  unconnected tree but leave out Mavis's husband.  Then, when I can identify who the husband is from others of the same name in my ONS you can just connect Mavis (and descendants) as a spouse.  I always use notes to say who she married (and maybe clues if I suspected some likely candidates).

Brian

On 19/11/2021 11:42, johnfirr via groups.io wrote:
I hope I can explain this issue in such a way as it makes sense and would love to know how others approach this.

I like to use FH as my repository for everything as it avoids my having lots of bits of paper which I inevitably lose. However you sometimes come across a snippet of data that its difficult to fit in.

Specifically I was sent an obituary cutting by email that incicates that a James married Mavis and they had at least two children Sue and Andy. They also had four grandchildren and a great grandchild but at this stage I obviously dont know who the grandchildren or great garndchild belong to ( Sue or Andy)  as it doesnt give their surnames.

Now I dont want to do more work on this at the moment as I am wading through censuses as part of a one name study but want to capture them in FH to hold what I have. I can obviously put together a family group for Robert, Mavis, Sue and Andy but dont know at this stage how to slot in the grandchildren.

Does anyone else ever have this conundrum and how do you handle it ( or is it just down to my adopting a process that just doesnt make sense?)

regards
John Firr

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