help with more than one tree for newby


@AlicePhoebe
 

Hello everyone

 

Help!

 

I have up to know just had one tree with FMP and recently uploaded it to FH, so I could use the way FH prints out trees etc.

 

I now want to split my FMP tree into 4 which would mean having 4 trees on FH to which to upload the gedcoms – I think that’s right.

 

How do I do that? I have to confess that I am coming back to this after a gap of a year or so, due to commitments, and not being very tech savvy I do not understand the thing about splitting trees which I found.

 

Any advice or guidance would be welcome

 

Also, I wanted to post to the forum rather than send an email, but I have never come across this type of forum before and do not really know what I am doing here either! So hope sending this email works!

 

ChrissieV


Mike Tate
 

Hi Chrissie,

If you prefer posting to a forum then join the FHUG Forum instead of using this Email service.

https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/

It is free and has an extensive Knowledge Base wiki.

 

The general advice here is not to split family trees where everyone is related.

It inevitably ends up with some people in multiple trees needing multiple updates.

It also makes finding shared common ancestors much more difficult.

 

Why not change perspective and make FH your master single tree database?

If you really feel the need it is easy to export your 4 grandparent sub-trees to FMP.

 


@AlicePhoebe
 

I was going to do a tree for each of my parents and my husband’s parents – I wouldn’t have thought common ancestors was that likely?

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 15 February 2023 19:07
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] help with more than one tree for newby

 

Hi Chrissie,

If you prefer posting to a forum then join the FHUG Forum instead of using this Email service.

https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/

It is free and has an extensive Knowledge Base wiki.

 

The general advice here is not to split family trees where everyone is related.

It inevitably ends up with some people in multiple trees needing multiple updates.

It also makes finding shared common ancestors much more difficult.

 

Why not change perspective and make FH your master single tree database?

If you really feel the need it is easy to export your 4 grandparent sub-trees to FMP.

 


Mike Tate
 

You never know where common ancestors might occur.

If you split the tree the likelihood of discovering them diminishes.

 

If you split like that, which tree(s) will hold the records for yourself, your husband, both your siblings, and the children/grandchildren of all those people?

For completeness, they will be replicated in all four trees and so need updating four times for every change.

 

What do you perceive as the benefits of splitting like that?

 

In the experience of FHUG members, those that split usually decide it was a mistake and join back into one tree.

 

 

I was going to do a tree for each of my parents and my husband’s parents – I wouldn’t have thought common ancestors was that likely?

 


John Elvin
 

I wouldn’t have thought common ancestors was that likely?
Finding you are related to your next door neighbour is very unlikely - but by accident we discovered his step Dad was my 3rd cousin once removed.

The only surprise when researching your family is if you don't find surprises!


Victor Markham
 

Life is full of surprises. My brother used to manage a garage which was next to a printing company. He had known the owners for over 30 years and always attended their parties. One day their daughter got in touch with me about a pupil she knew at school. Long story short the end result was the printing owners turned out to be our 2nd cousins !



On 15 Feb 2023, at 23:02, John Elvin <groups.io@elvin.me.uk target=_blank>groups.io@elvin.me.uk> wrote:

I wouldn’t have thought common ancestors was that likely?
Finding you are related to your next door neighbour is very unlikely - but by accident we discovered his step Dad was my 3rd cousin once removed.

The only surprise when researching your family is if you don't find surprises!


Harold C.
 

Never say "Never".  I have maintained my wife's tree and my tree in the same database for years even though I have always been convinced there are no links between them other than our nuclear family unit.  I keep them together in one database for my children and grandchildren.  Then, just 2 weeks ago, I got a message from a distant cousin who I did not even know existed.  Her family has been in Western Canada for generations.  She was searching for some information about her father's ancestors who came from our Eastern Canadian (Prince Edward Island) branch many generations ago. 

In passing she decided to check out my social media.  She noticed that one of my social media contacts, Maureen (the widow of one of my wife's cousins) was someone she knew.  She asked about how I knew Maureen.  Turns out that Maureen's son recently married my newfound cousin's niece on the other side of the continent.  So now after searching for over 30 years, I finally have an actual link between my family and my wife's family (distant though it may be).  I actually sat down and added them into my database so that, in future, my children and grandchildren can seen how they are linked to Maureen's grandchildren through both sides of the family.  I would never be able to do that in a coherent way if I had my data and my wife's data in split databases.

Harold


Victor Markham
 

Hi Chrissie

In reply to Mike's response I have just one tree most of the names on my tree are not directly related to me. My tree, from the tools menue, I prompt the item 'how related' One example is

No direct relationship found between Dugald BELL and Victor Laurence MARKHAM.

Dugald BELL is father-in-law of Clarence Edward Charles HAGGITT and Clarence Edward Charles HAGGITT is 2nd cousin of Victor Laurence MARKHAM

This shows my link to a person on my tree even when nbot directly related. Using just one tree does not affect any of your details and, who knows, some of the unrelated names might end up as being your cousin which has happened to me

Victor


On 15/02/2023 19:06, Mike Tate wrote:

Hi Chrissie,

If you prefer posting to a forum then join the FHUG Forum instead of using this Email service.

https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/

It is free and has an extensive Knowledge Base wiki.

 

The general advice here is not to split family trees where everyone is related.

It inevitably ends up with some people in multiple trees needing multiple updates.

It also makes finding shared common ancestors much more difficult.

 

Why not change perspective and make FH your master single tree database?

If you really feel the need it is easy to export your 4 grandparent sub-trees to FMP.