For some reason, FH7 does not understand some RM9 template functions such as ":Year" when importing.

An example is the following RM9 template code: <[Year]|[Date:Year]>
(I realize this is confusing, but that is how it was coded)
The first instance of "Year" is a text field containing just the year.
The second instance of "Year" is actually a function that extracts the year portion of the preceding field called "Date".

Could someone tell me how one would extract just the Year from the citation field containing the full date?
I believe the FM7 "=Year()" function is used, but I having issues with getting it to work.

Regards;
Gary

John

The RootsMagic template language really hasn't changed in about 3+ versions, so I think this is just something that requires tweaking in FH7.

Gary

Mike;

Based on what I'm seeing elsewhere, FH7 actually does understand the "|" (OR) symbol.

The date field (eg. Feb 13, 2023) is in the citation portion and I'm trying to use it in the bibliography.
I tried entering just the simple constructs you suggested and none would print anything.

I'm not yet familiar with the FH7 documentation, but I suspect the issue could be more subtle.
In RM9 templates, one has a display title and a data variable.
I tend to use the display title in all-caps and blanks changed to underscores for my variables.
FH7 almost looks as if it took the display title and added underscores, because I don't see both types in the definition.

I'll have to look at this a bit more.
Wish I could find a concise template language document.
Bouncing around via hyperlinks makes it hard to understand the grammar.

Mike

Here is modified example of what is happening to the bibliography. I've removed any attempt to just print the year in the bibliography and just printed the full access date instead. The footnote uses the same syntax for printing the "Access_Date", but it prints in the footnote and not in the bibliography.

I still need to work on the symbols used to prevent printing of local data; that is the "!" symbol. However; I don't think that is affecting this issue.

Regards;
Gary

 

Footnote

France, database with images, Archives départementales de l'Eure, Etat civil (https://archives.eure.fr/search?preset=80 : accessed February 13, 2023) > search: Heudicort (Eure, France), 1900, Naissances, Registres > cote 8 Mi 5625 > image 376, Heudicort, acte no. 12 (26 July 1900), Patte (Marie Vitaline), born 25 July 1900; ! Local ref: Genealogy__Patte_(Marie_Vitaline)__IE__BIRT_1900-07-25__001.

 

FOOTNOTE FORMAT:

{Collection_Creator}, {Collection_Title}, <{Collection_Type}|database with images>, {Website_Creator}, <<i>{Website_Title}</i>> <(<{Item_Address}|{Website_Address}> : <{Access_Type}|accessed> {Access_Date})> {Path}, {Item_Of_Interest}; {Credit_Line}.<! Local ref: {Local_Ref}>.

 

Short Footnote

France, Archives départementales de l'Eure, Etat civil, Heudicort, acte no. 12 (26 July 1900), Patte (Marie Vitaline), born 25 July 1900.

 

SHORT FOOTNOTE FORMAT:

{Collection_Creator}, {Collection_Title}, {Website_Creator}, <<i>{Website_Title}</i>>, {Item_Of_Interest}.

 

Bibliography

France. Database with images. Archives départementales de l'Eure. Etat civil. https://archives.eure.fr/search?preset=80: >.

 

BIBLIOGRAPHY FORMAT:

<{Bibliographic_Topic_item}|{Bibliographic_Topic_site}>. {Collection_Creator}. {Collection_Title}. <{Collection_Type}|Database with images>. {Website_Creator}. <<i>{Website_Title}</i>>. {Website_Address} : {Access_Date}>.

Mike;

No need to apologize. I gather that FH7 has made some significant advances in accommodating RM imports. One can't remember everything with a program this complex. You're correct about it taking some time to understand. Being an "old-school" software engineer, I'm more used to printed manuals. However; I'll adapt. Right now; I'm doing the "crash course" to make sure I'm not spending the rather stiff price for Crossover + FH7 on something that doesn't work for me. I am asking more questions than I otherwise would, because the time-limited trial isn't that long and there's quite a few checks to do.

So far; everything seems to be OK and I'm highly likely to switch over from RM9, but there are a few minor issues:

1. Obviously; I'll have to see what I can do to tailor my citations to the FH7 citation capabilities. Thankfully; I didn't use any RM packaged templates and made my own along a similar approach to that used in FH7. So; for the most part, they import very well. I may massage them a bit to look more like those in the stock FH7 template examples.
2. The scrolling performance for reports is abysmal under Crossover and ties up everything until it finishes scrolling. I sure hope it works better for native Windows users. Maybe the Crossover folks have some tweaks that might help. I've already asked FH7 support for their suggestions.
3. FH7 reports, unlike RM9, do not seem to have links from citation superscripts to the citation itself. That is a bit of a pain, but not possible in RTF. However; unlike RM9, they do use defined header style and so look better on import into a word-processor or similar. I rather wish there was an ODF export option. Then they could include the citation hyperlinks and it would import beautifully into Scrivener, which would automatically section the document and capture the citations as one would want in a book. (Perhaps a wish-list item?)

Gary

Thanks, Mike.

As noted the issues are minor. They are not sufficiently severe to preclude my buying the package and in some cases have procedural workarounds.

With reference to your numbered notes:

1. As I may have noted previously, I am a "moderate lumper". Being somewhere in the middle, I don't really find the Citation-focus to be a major issue. Possibly; it's just a bit of an adjustment for me.
2. Using the arrows in the right-hand pane definitely makes navigation of reports noticably faster. Thank you.
3. I'll have a look at using the HTML output. Scrivener does import HTML, but I'm not sure if it can pull out the citations from that import. That said; this is not a real issue. I just felt that an ODF export would be a very welcome addition.
4. I'll look at the online version of the help-pages. That should speed things up. Thank you.

Gary