Collaborative Working


Tony Chronnell
 

Hi.

I have just inherited the family tree from my recently deceased father who used Historian. There are a couple of my second cousins who would also like to use this data to add their own various family branches to. I've seen a few posts here of people sharing files on OneDrive or similar, but my question is whether this is a reliable way of working collaboratively on the same data when using Historian? Or, as I would need to purchase Historian anyway, should I just bite the bullet and move to a different software package?

Thanks in advance,

Tony


Chris Thomas
 

Hi Tony,

I don't know if this would be any use to you, but...  I use FH on my desktop and laptop.  Each of these obviously has the data files on their own hard drives, but I keep these in synch. using a piece of software called SpiderOakONE - this backs up important files to the cloud, allows one to synchronise between two (or more) PCs - and to share files/folders with others.  Each person synchronising and working on Family Historian and SpiderOakONE would obviously need to buy the softwares to install on their PCs.

Other than that I don't know of any way to share the work using independent software - you may need to move to one of the online resources (Ancestry, FindMyPast, etc.) that allow you to give permissions to other users.

Regards,

Chris


On 03/01/2022 09:25, Tony Chronnell wrote:
Hi.

I have just inherited the family tree from my recently deceased father who used Historian. There are a couple of my second cousins who would also like to use this data to add their own various family branches to. I've seen a few posts here of people sharing files on OneDrive or similar, but my question is whether this is a reliable way of working collaboratively on the same data when using Historian? Or, as I would need to purchase Historian anyway, should I just bite the bullet and move to a different software package?

Thanks in advance,

Tony


Neil Grantham
 

Chris


It can be used with cloud drives. I use this to work with the sam project on my laptop and PC


Things to consider

a) FH7 license only allows two concurrent users and I believe not different people

b) you shouldn't work on the project at the sam time


Best Wishes

Neil

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From: Chris Thomas
Sent: Jan 3, 2022 at 9:48 AM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Collaborative Working

Hi Tony,

I don't know if this would be any use to you, but...  I use FH on my desktop and laptop.  Each of these obviously has the data files on their own hard drives, but I keep these in synch. using a piece of software called SpiderOakONE - this backs up important files to the cloud, allows one to synchronise between two (or more) PCs - and to share files/folders with others.  Each person synchronising and working on Family Historian and SpiderOakONE would obviously need to buy the softwares to install on their PCs.

Other than that I don't know of any way to share the work using independent software - you may need to move to one of the online resources (Ancestry, FindMyPast, etc.) that allow you to give permissions to other users.

Regards,

Chris


On 03/01/2022 09:25, Tony Chronnell wrote:
Hi.

I have just inherited the family tree from my recently deceased father who used Historian. There are a couple of my second cousins who would also like to use this data to add their own various family branches to. I've seen a few posts here of people sharing files on OneDrive or similar, but my question is whether this is a reliable way of working collaboratively on the same data when using Historian? Or, as I would need to purchase Historian anyway, should I just bite the bullet and move to a different software package?

Thanks in advance,

Tony



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Neil Grantham
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Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Brian Horridge
 

Tony

Besides the technical issues regarding sharing the same data file(s), it is just as important to work out who, if anyone, should be responsible for the "master" data file.  There is also the problems of incompatibility between different software (ie clashes between FH Version 6 and Version 7)

It is feasible to share this responsibility but there are many stories of things going horribly wrong - especially if the people involved have widely different levels of research / technical skills.  The worst case is where a beginner overwrites the master file with automatic file synchronisation. 

As I say - it's possible but proceed with caution.

Brian

Hi.

I have just inherited the family tree from my recently deceased father who used Historian. There are a couple of my second cousins who would also like to use this data to add their own various family branches to. I've seen a few posts here of people sharing files on OneDrive or similar, but my question is whether this is a reliable way of working collaboratively on the same data when using Historian? Or, as I would need to purchase Historian anyway, should I just bite the bullet and move to a different software package?

Thanks in advance,

Tony


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Mike Tate
 

Tony,

Some useful advice has been offered but some is perhaps misleading.

 

Chris said: “FH7 license only allows two concurrent users and I believe not different people”.

That is not quite correct. A single FH licence allows it to be installed on two PC owned by the user but only used one at a time.

However, if each person buys their own FH licence then its concurrent use is not restricted.

 

As Brian says, it is much easier to collaborate if you all use identical genealogy software.

His other points about synchronising the research updates are also very important.

 

PC based software such as FH, RootsMagic, Legacy, etc, rely on digital communication via some common media.

You could use CD or pen drives, but a cloud service such as OneDrive or Google Drive is easiest.

I would advise against synchronising the Projects directly via a cloud service.

If any one of you makes a mistake then all your copies could be upset and rely on backups to recover.

Instead, use the cloud to export/import copies of the whole Project or branches of the family tree.

 

Conversely, online software such as Ancestry, FindMyPast, ZoomPast, etc, does support collaborative research but the risks of making a mistake that upsets the database are very similar.

You can try many of those online family tree building services for free.

The subscription service simply grants access to the online records but is not necessary for the trees.

 

So collaboration is feasible but requires careful management.

 


Allan Knodel
 

Ancestral Quest does have a collaboration feature, but each person you want to work with would have to purchase the program. Although you can use a free basic program, you can't try out the collaboration feature for free.

You can read more about it here: http://www.ancquest.com/aq_collab.htm

Allan

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On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 at 01:36, Tony Chronnell <tony.chronnell@...> wrote:
Hi.

I have just inherited the family tree from my recently deceased father who used Historian. There are a couple of my second cousins who would also like to use this data to add their own various family branches to. I've seen a few posts here of people sharing files on OneDrive or similar, but my question is whether this is a reliable way of working collaboratively on the same data when using Historian? Or, as I would need to purchase Historian anyway, should I just bite the bullet and move to a different software package?

Thanks in advance,

Tony


Mike Tate
 

Thank you Allan,

I was unaware of that AQ feature.

Every person needing to purchase any program would be expected for such a collaboration.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Allan Knodel
Sent: 18 January 2022 05:55
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Collaborative Working

 

Ancestral Quest does have a collaboration feature, but each person you want to work with would have to purchase the program. Although you can use a free basic program, you can't try out the collaboration feature for free.

 

You can read more about it here: http://www.ancquest.com/aq_collab.htm

 

Allan

 

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On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 at 01:36, Tony Chronnell <tony.chronnell@...> wrote:

Hi.

I have just inherited the family tree from my recently deceased father who used Historian. There are a couple of my second cousins who would also like to use this data to add their own various family branches to. I've seen a few posts here of people sharing files on OneDrive or similar, but my question is whether this is a reliable way of working collaboratively on the same data when using Historian? Or, as I would need to purchase Historian anyway, should I just bite the bullet and move to a different software package?

Thanks in advance,

Tony