Philip,

Yes, that certainly produces a tree with no dotted Proxy box lines.

However, it achieves that by omitting significant ancestral branches, so is not entirely satisfactory.

As an example, try this with the Family Historian Sample Project.

1) Select the File Root person Ian Stephen MUNRO and create an All Relatives Diagram.

2) Select his great (x2) grandfather Arthur Michael MUNRO and create another All Relatives Diagram.

This 2^nd diagram has no parents or sibling for Catherine REARDON and the whole ancestral branch for Susan Isabel DOWLING is missing compared to the 1^st diagram.

What you have actually created is a Descendants Diagram (try that and you will see they are the same).

By definition, Descendant Diagrams have no Proxy boxes because the conflicting ancestral branches have been omitted.

Edward,

I would strongly advise against editing the GEDCOM file unless you are absolutely sure you know what you are doing as it is potentially highly risky.

Anyway, you can easily change the order of Children within FH which is a much safer option.

In the parent’s Property Box, on the Main tab, the Children are listed in the lower pane.

Select any Child and use the black arrows on the right of the header bar to move them up or down.

BTW: You can open a parent’s Property Box directly from any Diagram by double-clicking either parent box.

The changed order will affect all displays of the Children in the Focus Window and all Reports as well as in all Diagrams. If you use any of the automatic re-order options then FH will put them back into their Birth Date order. i.e. Edit > Re-order Events by Date… (F9) or Tools > Re-order Out-of-Sequence Data… or Property Box cog Menu > Sort Family & Events in Date Order.

If you had the default Diagram settings then a dotted Proxy box would be shown where the person belongs among their siblings.

But you have changed the Diagram > Options > Proxies tab to hide proxy boxes.

The dotted line connects the proxy box to the married person box and indicates it (often) crosses other lines.

To make it solid use the Diagram > Options > Lines tab and make Crossing Lines Solid.

You can also spend some time moving boxes or clicking Expansion Buttons to exclude descendant lines that cross the dotted lines.

This scenario only applies to All Relatives Diagrams and only to the direct Ancestors of the root.

Please post a more complex All Relatives Diagram example that does not use the dotted lines.

Hi Edward,

The short answer is ‘no’. This is a recurrent question and is a compromise for All Relatives Diagrams.

I can just see on Daniel’s right that he is married.

It would be difficult to position him between his brothers and include his wife with her parents, who I guess are (or could be) included.

I further guess that she has siblings, and has a similar dotted line linking to her position among them.

If she was also positioned there how would the marriage connection and children between Daniel and her be drawn?