moving a sibling on a chart/diagram


susan probert
 

Many thanks to everyone who replied to my post. All the replies were very helpful and after a bit of playing around I have solved the problem!  Thanks, Susan


Lorna Craig
 

Hi Susan,

In your example from the FH Sample Project who did you choose as the diagram root?   An All Relatives diagram with Anthony Edward Munro as the root doesn't have a proxy box for him.   I am guessing you used one of his descendants as the diagram root, so that the diagram needs to display the ancestors of both Anthony and his (second) wife.   In this case there will be proxy boxes for Anthony and his wife to show where they fit within their own families.  But if both Anthony and his wife were moved back into the place where Anthony's proxy box is, where would his wife's ancestors fit?  

Perhaps in your case you have not (yet) recorded any ancestors for the wife, so there would be room for her to fit beside him in the diagram and that is why it looks odd to have her a long way off.   The same may be true for all the relatives who have been moved "out".  If none of them have ancestors recorded you could try experimenting with different individuals as the diagram root.  For example an All Relatives diagram with one of the early ancestors as the root will look more sensible. It won't include ancestors of spouses who have married into the family but that doesn't matter if you have not recorded them anyway.

Also, as someone else has already said, you can tidy diagrams up quite a lot using the Movement Control Box.  Click the 'Move' icon near the right hand end of the diagram toolbar, then click the Help button in the small Movement Control Box for guidance on what can be done.

Lorna

On 27/03/2022 14:25, susan probert via groups.io wrote:
Hello, I am new to FH7 (not used it in an earlier version).
I am trying to create a chart to save as a PDF and then print elsewhere as an A3 chart/diagram. I have approx. 52 relatives/ancestors in my records. I have a problem with the configuration of my chosen All Relatives diagram.  However the diagram has various proxy boxes with several relatives "out on a limb" via crossing (dotted) lines.  This means that the 6 generation diagram is spread very wide because of the number of relatives who have been moved "out" from where they should be.  Frankly it looks silly!  I have found out how to hide the proxy boxes but after many hours of reading "Help" and experimenting I have not found any way of moving the sibling box (with associated spouse/children) back to the correct place within its' siblings.  If I can do this the diagram will look a lot less wide and a lot more "sensible".
The best example I can give is from the FH sample project - using Anthony Edward Munro I want to move his information plus his spouse and descendants back into the place where the proxy box currently is (although my actual ancester only has the one spouse).  Is this possible and if so how do I do it?
I need baby steps as I'm not that good using software!!
Many thanks, Susan


Vyger
 

Hi Susan,

I'm not at the computer right now but when on the diagram view have you clicked the Move button and dragged your lines about?

I also remember watching Simon Orde demo exactly what you are trying to achieve in a recent video. I think in the print preview there was a scale option or perhaps it was behind the show margins.

I have found the quickest and most comprehensive answers come from the FHUG, if not already registered I would recommend you do.

The link below might be the help you need.


Jackson

On Sun, 27 Mar 2022, 14:33 susan probert via groups.io, <susan1probert=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello, I am new to FH7 (not used it in an earlier version).
I am trying to create a chart to save as a PDF and then print elsewhere as an A3 chart/diagram. I have approx. 52 relatives/ancestors in my records. I have a problem with the configuration of my chosen All Relatives diagram.  However the diagram has various proxy boxes with several relatives "out on a limb" via crossing (dotted) lines.  This means that the 6 generation diagram is spread very wide because of the number of relatives who have been moved "out" from where they should be.  Frankly it looks silly!  I have found out how to hide the proxy boxes but after many hours of reading "Help" and experimenting I have not found any way of moving the sibling box (with associated spouse/children) back to the correct place within its' siblings.  If I can do this the diagram will look a lot less wide and a lot more "sensible".
The best example I can give is from the FH sample project - using Anthony Edward Munro I want to move his information plus his spouse and descendants back into the place where the proxy box currently is (although my actual ancester only has the one spouse).  Is this possible and if so how do I do it?
I need baby steps as I'm not that good using software!!
Many thanks, Susan


susan probert
 

Hello, I am new to FH7 (not used it in an earlier version).
I am trying to create a chart to save as a PDF and then print elsewhere as an A3 chart/diagram. I have approx. 52 relatives/ancestors in my records. I have a problem with the configuration of my chosen All Relatives diagram.  However the diagram has various proxy boxes with several relatives "out on a limb" via crossing (dotted) lines.  This means that the 6 generation diagram is spread very wide because of the number of relatives who have been moved "out" from where they should be.  Frankly it looks silly!  I have found out how to hide the proxy boxes but after many hours of reading "Help" and experimenting I have not found any way of moving the sibling box (with associated spouse/children) back to the correct place within its' siblings.  If I can do this the diagram will look a lot less wide and a lot more "sensible".
The best example I can give is from the FH sample project - using Anthony Edward Munro I want to move his information plus his spouse and descendants back into the place where the proxy box currently is (although my actual ancester only has the one spouse).  Is this possible and if so how do I do it?
I need baby steps as I'm not that good using software!!
Many thanks, Susan