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My first sending this way Victor On 14/12/2021 12:50 pm, Mike Tate wrote:
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I’m not saying that Windows 11 issues are guaranteed to arise. But the feedback from dozens if not hundreds of users via a reputable Windows Newsletter and the experienced gurus who have tried out Windows 11 suggests that there are significant risks with Windows 11 and significant changes that are a step backwards (or at least different) relative to Windows 10. Yes, if you are experienced enough to know where to look and how to analyse the current status of Windows 11 then by all means take the risk. However, history suggests that any major software upgrade is bound to have glitches, and Windows 11 and FH v7.0 are no exception. I would rather others experience those glitches and get them fixed first before I upgrade, or be certain that I have a way back. Unfortunately, 10 days after upgrading to Windows 11 it may not be very easy to revert to Windows 10. For FH v7.0 I have made sure I can revert to FH v6.2 if necessary, but it is a bit tricky.
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of colevalleygirl@...
Sent: 14 December 2021 12:27 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Narrative reports
I’ve also been on Windows 11 from some time, with no issues at all.
Mike tends to the ultra-cautious end of the spectrum. I’m somewhere in the middle. I reviewed Windows 11 known issues and notifications | Microsoft Docs to check that none of the known issues would affect me before I updated (it’s in tech-speak, but the key thing is the column that says Resolved or Mitigated for all of them bar one (which is NOT going to affect you). If you have a lot of devices (printers, scanners, webcams etc.) attached to your PC, it’s as well to check that they’re supported before updating, especially if they’re very old devices, but if Microsoft told you your PC could upgrade to Windows 11, they’d done some basic checks on your configuration first.
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Grantham via groups.io
Viktor Windows 11 is NOT beta software. What Mike was implying was that from what he's read, it is 'effectively' beta software. Microsoft would NOT release beta software to the general public in the manner you received the update notice. Many people prefer to leave major updates like this until issues get ironed out, which is what Mike is doing. I have been on Windows 11 for several weeks, with no problems other than an odd interface on my Epson scanning software, but no doubt Epson will update to fix this in due course. Best Wishes Neil. |
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Please try again with the FHUG Forum as it is not going to be easy to resolve your problems with lengthy descriptions.
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To post screenshots follow the FHUG Knowledge Base advice 'Forum Usage Tips' for Attachments and Taking Screenshots: https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/forum-usage-tips/ If you had started a posting in the FHUG Forum and asked about screenshots there it would be easier to point at that KB advice. -----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io Sent: 14 December 2021 10:15 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Narrative reports Mike I have done another narrative report (not the same person as before) I found that BMD certificates appeared on this one but no census images. I wonder if I had added these BMD's directly to the person. That is not via Ancestral sources. So could the problem be with AS and Win 11? I can add the census image directly with no problem which is what I do with photos I only upgraded to Win11 when a message appeared on my computer to upgrade. There was no indication that it was a beta version. If there was I wouldn't have upgraded. I have tried to post an image on FHUG forum but haven't been able to do it. Tried to paste it. Nothing happened. For the record all photos I have added via the person in the photo have all appeared on the narrative report Victor |
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colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
I’ve also been on Windows 11 from some time, with no issues at all.
Mike tends to the ultra-cautious end of the spectrum. I’m somewhere in the middle. I reviewed Windows 11 known issues and notifications | Microsoft Docs to check that none of the known issues would affect me before I updated (it’s in tech-speak, but the key thing is the column that says Resolved or Mitigated for all of them bar one (which is NOT going to affect you). If you have a lot of devices (printers, scanners, webcams etc.) attached to your PC, it’s as well to check that they’re supported before updating, especially if they’re very old devices, but if Microsoft told you your PC could upgrade to Windows 11, they’d done some basic checks on your configuration first.
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Grantham via groups.io
Sent: 14 December 2021 12:17 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Narrative reports
Viktor
Windows 11 is NOT beta software. What Mike was implying was that from what he's read, it is 'effectively' beta software. Microsoft would NOT release beta software to the general public in the manner you received the update notice. Many people prefer to leave major updates like this until issues get ironed out, which is what Mike is doing. I have been on Windows 11 for several weeks, with no problems other than an odd interface on my Epson scanning software, but no doubt Epson will update to fix this in due course.
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Neil. |
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Viktor Windows 11 is NOT beta software. What Mike was implying was that from what he's read, it is 'effectively' beta software. Microsoft would NOT release beta software to the general public in the manner you received the update notice. Many people prefer to leave major updates like this until issues get ironed out, which is what Mike is doing. I have been on Windows 11 for several weeks, with no problems other than an odd interface on my Epson scanning software, but no doubt Epson will update to fix this in due course. Best Wishes Neil.
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Neil Grantham ------------------- Using FH 7 & AS 7 Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall. |
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Victor Markham
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I have done another narrative report (not the same person as before) I found that BMD certificates appeared on this one but no census images. I wonder if I had added these BMD's directly to the person. That is not via Ancestral sources. So could the problem be with AS and Win 11? I can add the census image directly with no problem which is what I do with photos I only upgraded to Win11 when a message appeared on my computer to upgrade. There was no indication that it was a beta version. If there was I wouldn't have upgraded. I have tried to post an image on FHUG forum but haven't been able to do it. Tried to paste it. Nothing happened. For the record all photos I have added via the person in the photo have all appeared on the narrative report Victor On 13/12/2021 5:08 pm, Mike Tate wrote:
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Yes, when I do this I only get pictures of people, I do not get any other pictures. However if I publish a book I get all the pictures I would expect. So, apparently, not a Win 11 issue. I was trying to help you test your issue as I am running Win 11 also. I seem to have confused everyone so I will step out of this. -----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 3:49 PM To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Narrative reports For start From the top select Publish. This will open a drop down menu From this menu you have 3 choices 1. Ancestors by genration, 2. Descendants by generation and 3 Individual You select how many generations you want in the report. This will generate a report. You can print directly from this in PDF format or save it to you file in PDF or Rich Text Format or simply text If you save it in RTF you can make any adjustment (e,g. make images larger). I then save it in Word. PDF format wont allow you to make any adjustments If you save it in RTF or Word and make adjustment go to Index and right click this will revise the index Hope tis helps Victor On 13/12/2021 9:30 pm, stoddarm@... wrote: Victor, |
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I addressed my comments to Victor. I was simply trying to help Victor since you weren't running Win 11. -----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 3:50 PM To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Narrative reports Please start a new topic for your Reports with no text to avoid compromising this topic. Your problem is unrelated to Victor's. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of stoddarm@... Sent: 13 December 2021 21:30 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Narrative reports Victor, I am running win11 and FH 7.0.8.2. I just ran an Ancestors by Generation Report and it shows pictures of individuals but nothing else. I don't work with Narrative Reports so you would have to walk me through the settings for further testing. "Nothing else" may be what I am asking for. I am a beginner level FH user. This thread got me to wondering about Publishing Books results which is what I work with and that does show the pictures I would expect...marriage records, gravestones and so forth. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 11:08 AM To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Narrative reports Victor, I very much doubt if Win 11 has anything to do with it. Anyway, I am avoiding Win 11 as many gurus suggest it is effectively a beta release and not fit for purpose. The fact that relinking the same image works OK also suggests it is not a Win 11 issue. I've an inkling that I've dealt with that set of greyed out options before, but cannot recall the details. Perhaps a screenshot would help, better in the FHUG Forum than here. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io Sent: 13 December 2021 12:22 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Narrative reports Thanks for your reply Mike All my images are saved in media file folder in FH Projects folder. I have not moved anything. My FH Projects have been on One Drive for a long time and I have made no changes to location of folder. I have checked external file links and they are all there. I have checked my own birth certificate and prompting 'edit' the options to exclude the image from 'diagram ' 'report 'use link note as caption' are all greyed out. I tried this on a census image with the same result I have prompted 'use to existing media record' and was able to download the image and also use the above mentioned options. On that image I now have 2 of the same images. On the previous image the above mentioned options are still greyed out The changes must have happened when upgrading to Win 11 has made this happen. Perhaps another shut down and open will sort this. I will do this later Victor |
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Please start a new topic for your Reports with no text to avoid compromising this topic.
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Your problem is unrelated to Victor's. -----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of stoddarm@... Sent: 13 December 2021 21:30 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Narrative reports Victor, I am running win11 and FH 7.0.8.2. I just ran an Ancestors by Generation Report and it shows pictures of individuals but nothing else. I don't work with Narrative Reports so you would have to walk me through the settings for further testing. "Nothing else" may be what I am asking for. I am a beginner level FH user. This thread got me to wondering about Publishing Books results which is what I work with and that does show the pictures I would expect...marriage records, gravestones and so forth. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 11:08 AM To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Narrative reports Victor, I very much doubt if Win 11 has anything to do with it. Anyway, I am avoiding Win 11 as many gurus suggest it is effectively a beta release and not fit for purpose. The fact that relinking the same image works OK also suggests it is not a Win 11 issue. I've an inkling that I've dealt with that set of greyed out options before, but cannot recall the details. Perhaps a screenshot would help, better in the FHUG Forum than here. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io Sent: 13 December 2021 12:22 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Narrative reports Thanks for your reply Mike All my images are saved in media file folder in FH Projects folder. I have not moved anything. My FH Projects have been on One Drive for a long time and I have made no changes to location of folder. I have checked external file links and they are all there. I have checked my own birth certificate and prompting 'edit' the options to exclude the image from 'diagram ' 'report 'use link note as caption' are all greyed out. I tried this on a census image with the same result I have prompted 'use to existing media record' and was able to download the image and also use the above mentioned options. On that image I now have 2 of the same images. On the previous image the above mentioned options are still greyed out The changes must have happened when upgrading to Win 11 has made this happen. Perhaps another shut down and open will sort this. I will do this later Victor |
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Victor Markham
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From the top select Publish. This will open a drop down menu From this menu you have 3 choices 1. Ancestors by genration, 2. Descendants by generation and 3 Individual You select how many generations you want in the report. This will generate a report. You can print directly from this in PDF format or save it to you file in PDF or Rich Text Format or simply text If you save it in RTF you can make any adjustment (e,g. make images larger). I then save it in Word. PDF format wont allow you to make any adjustments If you save it in RTF or Word and make adjustment go to Index and right click this will revise the index Hope tis helps Victor On 13/12/2021 9:30 pm, stoddarm@... wrote:
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I am running win11 and FH 7.0.8.2. I just ran an Ancestors by Generation Report and it shows pictures of individuals but nothing else. I don't work with Narrative Reports so you would have to walk me through the settings for further testing. "Nothing else" may be what I am asking for. I am a beginner level FH user. This thread got me to wondering about Publishing Books results which is what I work with and that does show the pictures I would expect...marriage records, gravestones and so forth. -----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 11:08 AM To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Narrative reports Victor, I very much doubt if Win 11 has anything to do with it. Anyway, I am avoiding Win 11 as many gurus suggest it is effectively a beta release and not fit for purpose. The fact that relinking the same image works OK also suggests it is not a Win 11 issue. I've an inkling that I've dealt with that set of greyed out options before, but cannot recall the details. Perhaps a screenshot would help, better in the FHUG Forum than here. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io Sent: 13 December 2021 12:22 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Narrative reports Thanks for your reply Mike All my images are saved in media file folder in FH Projects folder. I have not moved anything. My FH Projects have been on One Drive for a long time and I have made no changes to location of folder. I have checked external file links and they are all there. I have checked my own birth certificate and prompting 'edit' the options to exclude the image from 'diagram ' 'report 'use link note as caption' are all greyed out. I tried this on a census image with the same result I have prompted 'use to existing media record' and was able to download the image and also use the above mentioned options. On that image I now have 2 of the same images. On the previous image the above mentioned options are still greyed out The changes must have happened when upgrading to Win 11 has made this happen. Perhaps another shut down and open will sort this. I will do this later Victor |
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Victor,
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I very much doubt if Win 11 has anything to do with it. Anyway, I am avoiding Win 11 as many gurus suggest it is effectively a beta release and not fit for purpose. The fact that relinking the same image works OK also suggests it is not a Win 11 issue. I've an inkling that I've dealt with that set of greyed out options before, but cannot recall the details. Perhaps a screenshot would help, better in the FHUG Forum than here. -----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io Sent: 13 December 2021 12:22 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Narrative reports Thanks for your reply Mike All my images are saved in media file folder in FH Projects folder. I have not moved anything. My FH Projects have been on One Drive for a long time and I have made no changes to location of folder. I have checked external file links and they are all there. I have checked my own birth certificate and prompting 'edit' the options to exclude the image from 'diagram ' 'report 'use link note as caption' are all greyed out. I tried this on a census image with the same result I have prompted 'use to existing media record' and was able to download the image and also use the above mentioned options. On that image I now have 2 of the same images. On the previous image the above mentioned options are still greyed out The changes must have happened when upgrading to Win 11 has made this happen. Perhaps another shut down and open will sort this. I will do this later Victor |
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Victor Markham
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All my images are saved in media file folder in FH Projects folder. I have not moved anything. My FH Projects have been on One Drive for a long time and I have made no changes to location of folder. I have checked external file links and they are all there. I have checked my own birth certificate and prompting 'edit' the options to exclude the image from 'diagram ' 'report 'use link note as caption' are all greyed out. I tried this on a census image with the same result I have prompted 'use to existing media record' and was able to download the image and also use the above mentioned options. On that image I now have 2 of the same images. On the previous image the above mentioned options are still greyed out The changes must have happened when upgrading to Win 11 has made this happen. Perhaps another shut down and open will sort this. I will do this later Victor On 12/12/2021 10:16 pm, Mike Tate wrote:
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You need to check the Media record File Links for those images. Do they refer to the Project internal Media folder or do they have a full path from drive letter and folders to the image file? Use File Explorer to check whether the image files actually exist at the specified location on disk. Use the FH command Tools > External File Links... and tick Show Broken Links Only. I would expect that to list your problematic images and confirm that they are not saved on disk where FH expects. You can try the Auto Repair Links button that tries to locate those missing images and correct the File Links. Is it possible that some reorganisation files on your PC may have accidentally moved or deleted those images? -----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io Sent: 12 December 2021 21:10 To: Family History <family-historian@groups.io> Subject: [family-historian] Narrative reports In the past when I did a narrative report it included images like census and BMD certificates Now it does not include any of the above. I have just checked the images and prompted edit. It states 'link details not applicable' which is why these images do not appear I have looked to see if I can restore the link details but couldn't find anything. This was the first time I have done a narrative report since the latest upgrade. Anyone know how I can get these imges to be included in the report? Victor |
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Victor Markham
In the past when I did a narrative report it included images like census and BMD certificates
Now it does not include any of the above. I have just checked the images and prompted edit. It states 'link details not applicable' which is why these images do not appear I have looked to see if I can restore the link details but couldn't find anything. This was the first time I have done a narrative report since the latest upgrade. Anyone know how I can get these imges to be included in the report? Victor |
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