Still struggling with mapping


colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

You can do that on Google Maps as well. Right-click on the location you want to geocode and the co-ordinates will be at the top of the right click menu. Free.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of stephen.challis@...
Sent: 01 May 2021 12:43
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Still struggling with mapping

 

Memory map (https://memory-map.com/maps/) sell digital maps. If you hover your cursor over the place whose precise co-ordinates you want, they will be displayed on the screen. Easy! But not necessarily cheap.


stephen.challis@...
 

Memory map (https://memory-map.com/maps/) sell digital maps. If you hover your cursor over the place whose precise co-ordinates you want, they will be displayed on the screen. Easy! But not necessarily cheap.

 

Stephen

 

 

Stephen Challis

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From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lorna Craig via groups.io
Sent: 01 May 2021 10:28
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Subject: Re: [family-historian] Still struggling with mapping

 

As it is only about a dozen places which are not correctly mapped I would simply geocode them manually.  The simplest way is to click the Drag icon at the right hand end of the map toolbar, to enable manual movement of the markers on the map.    Then drag the incorrect markers to the right place.  Alternatively if you know the correct latitude and longitude coordinates you can enter these directly into the Place record.

 

Remember to use Tools>Preferences>Map window to ‘Block Refresh for Non-tentative Geocodes’ so that your manually set markers don’t get disrupted by any subsequent auto-geocoding.

 

Lorna

 

 

From: johnfirr via groups.io
Sent: 01 May 2021 07:09
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Still struggling with mapping



.....Its only about a dozen out of nearly 1000 places but it would be great to get it all properly aligned. Is there something I am missing?


Adrian Bruce
 


On Sat, 1 May 2021 at 07:09, johnfirr via groups.io <johnfirr=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
... However when I look at the map all places window I still have about a dozen places that are showing in the wrong country so for example one entry which is down as : Tramere, Birkenhead, , England and standardised as Tranmere, , Merseyside, England is still showing in Australia....
 
Are you using the built-in Geocoder? I access this by selecting the place in the Places tab, then clicking the drop down arrow immediately by the side of the Map push-pin icon on the main toolbar. You can then choose "Map location of Tranmere...".  As Lorna indicates, if you have that option set (as you should, in my opinion) AND there is already a Lat & Long set for Tranmere, then nothing will happen if you just choose "Map location of Tranmere..."

What I would do is delete the Lat & Long on the Tranmere place-entry, and then choose "Map location of Tranmere..." It worked when I tried that and remapped correctly.

I know I had some oddities - I had places in Victoria (not Victoria, Australia, just Victoria, because it was pre-1901 and the formation of the Commonwealth of Australia) that I hadn't noticed had been mapped to Victoria in British Columbia. I added a modern "Standardized" for them but still needed to kick the previous values out in order to remap. I suspect that the built-in Geocoder / Mapper for FH has some oddities in the results it gives on the target server, such as Tranmere or Victoria, and a manual kicking for each is possibly the best way forward.

Adrian





Lorna Craig
 

As it is only about a dozen places which are not correctly mapped I would simply geocode them manually.  The simplest way is to click the Drag icon at the right hand end of the map toolbar, to enable manual movement of the markers on the map.    Then drag the incorrect markers to the right place.  Alternatively if you know the correct latitude and longitude coordinates you can enter these directly into the Place record.

 

Remember to use Tools>Preferences>Map window to ‘Block Refresh for Non-tentative Geocodes’ so that your manually set markers don’t get disrupted by any subsequent auto-geocoding.

 

Lorna

 

 

From: johnfirr via groups.io
Sent: 01 May 2021 07:09
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Still struggling with mapping



.....Its only about a dozen out of nearly 1000 places but it would be great to get it all properly aligned. Is there something I am missing?



johnfirr@...
 

Thanks Dave,
If it's just a case of it being as good as it can be I,m fine with that as it's still pretty impressive but just wanted to make sure it wasn't a result of lack of understanding on my part. 
Regards
John


David Wilkinson
 

The mapping service FH provides is 'free' and whilst it correctly finds many places, it is far from 100% and we have to live with that. I sometimes wonder how on earth it can get it so wrong. It strikes that this service reads places from left to right, but if I was writing an algorithm to do it I would read it right to left, i.e. starting with the country. Like you my places were untidy (I have over 12,000) and I am slowly checking all my mappings and if I add a new I always check the geolocation before moving on.

On 01/05/2021 07:09, johnfirr via groups.io wrote:
Following a few previous posts I am gradually getting all my mapping sorted out as my place name record set was frankly a mess. I have now spent a couple of weeks doing a very careful tidy up. Everything is now in a four column set up so which I use as "district", "Town", "County", "Country". I always put the place as recorded in place and then as you would look for it today in the standardised box if that is different to the record.

All well and good and it is 99% there now. However when I look at the map all places window I still have about a dozen places that are showing in the wrong country so for example one entry which is down as : Tramere, Birkenhead, , England and standardised as Tranmere, , Merseyside, England is still showing in Australia. I have others which are clearly labelled as England showing in USA.

Its only about a dozen out of nearly 1000 places but it would be great to get it all properly aligned. Is there something I am missing?

regards
John Firr


johnfirr@...
 

Following a few previous posts I am gradually getting all my mapping sorted out as my place name record set was frankly a mess. I have now spent a couple of weeks doing a very careful tidy up. Everything is now in a four column set up so which I use as "district", "Town", "County", "Country". I always put the place as recorded in place and then as you would look for it today in the standardised box if that is different to the record.

All well and good and it is 99% there now. However when I look at the map all places window I still have about a dozen places that are showing in the wrong country so for example one entry which is down as : Tramere, Birkenhead, , England and standardised as Tranmere, , Merseyside, England is still showing in Australia. I have others which are clearly labelled as England showing in USA.

Its only about a dozen out of nearly 1000 places but it would be great to get it all properly aligned. Is there something I am missing?

regards
John Firr