Errors


Victor Markham
 

I have been working on my FH tree and after just added some census details I got this message I have V7

Family Historian Exception Report - Friday 08 Jan 2021
=========================================================

  Lines marked "EXCLUDED:" indicate data which has not
  been loaded, and explain why it wasn't loaded.

  Indented lines marked "EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:" indicate
  data lines which are not necessarily invalid in
  themselves but which have had to be excluded as a
  consequence of excluding other lines.

  Lines marked "INFO ONLY:" indicate data that has
  been successfully loaded, but where special action
  was needed to load it (e.g. GEDCOM errors detected
  and automatically corrected by Family Historian).

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11117. Record Number=10964.
l.229957 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.229958 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.229959 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.229960 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.229961 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.229962 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 24 DEC 2015"
    l.229963 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11880. Record Number=11684.
l.246511 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.246512 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I21933. Record Number=21444.
l.408998 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "1  _FAMC "
    l.408999 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Step (father)"
    l.409000 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Birth (mother)"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I29483. Record Number=28832.
l.544304 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.544305 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.544306 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.544307 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.544308 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.544309 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 25 DEC 2015"
    l.544310 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

---------------------------------------------------------
The numeric portion of Gedcom Ids have been retained as Record Ids.  Use these to match entries to

It opened up on my name with no other family connections shown. I checked my brother and father details they too were alone.

I have also checked other names it appear they have all become stand alone names

Looks as if all names on my tree have become isolated

Victor



Ros
 

Did you put the information in with Family Historian or did you use Ancestral Sources?   If you used Ancestral Sources you will need to report the problem in the Ancestral Sources forum.

In the mean time have you tried restoring a snapshot from prior to the problem?


Victor Markham
 

I added the census details via Ancestral Sources.

On 8 Jan 2021, at 08:47, Ros <ros@...> wrote:
Did you put the information in with Family Historian or did you use Ancestral Sources?   If you used Ancestral Sources you will need to report the problem in the Ancestral Sources forum.

In the mean time have you tried restoring a snapshot from prior to the problem?


Ros
 

Make sure you are using the correct version of Ancestral Sources for Version 7,  you must have Ancestral Sources 7.

If you are on 7 for both and still have a problem you need to report the problem on FHUG.  


Mike Tate
 

Victor,

There are several oddities about that Exception Report.

None of the 2 _SHAR lines has a @I123@ link to an Individual record as the Shared Fact Witness.

The _FAMC should be FAMC and that explains why the Family as Child links are all broken.

There was an error reported last month that involved FAMC and PEDI/_PEDI  tags that was never resolved.

I suggest you preserve as much evidence of the errors as possible, i.e. Exception Log and GEDCOM.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 08:21
To: Family History <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Errors

 

I have been working on my FH tree and after just added some census details I got this message I have V7

Family Historian Exception Report - Friday 08 Jan 2021
=========================================================

  Lines marked "EXCLUDED:" indicate data which has not
  been loaded, and explain why it wasn't loaded.

  Indented lines marked "EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:" indicate
  data lines which are not necessarily invalid in
  themselves but which have had to be excluded as a
  consequence of excluding other lines.

  Lines marked "INFO ONLY:" indicate data that has
  been successfully loaded, but where special action
  was needed to load it (e.g. GEDCOM errors detected
  and automatically corrected by Family Historian).

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11117. Record Number=10964.
l.229957 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.229958 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.229959 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.229960 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.229961 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.229962 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 24 DEC 2015"
    l.229963 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11880. Record Number=11684.
l.246511 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.246512 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I21933. Record Number=21444.
l.408998 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "1  _FAMC "
    l.408999 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Step (father)"
    l.409000 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Birth (mother)"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I29483. Record Number=28832.
l.544304 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.544305 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.544306 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.544307 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.544308 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.544309 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 25 DEC 2015"
    l.544310 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

---------------------------------------------------------
The numeric portion of Gedcom Ids have been retained as Record Ids.  Use these to match entries to

It opened up on my name with no other family connections shown. I checked my brother and father details they too were alone.

I have also checked other names it appear they have all become stand alone names

Looks as if all names on my tree have become isolated

Victor

 


Victor Markham
 

I am using the correct version of AS havin g downloaded the latest verson. I had used it yesterday and things worked normaly as it always has in the past. When I added the census details of a person and saved it FH then opened at that person as t always has. This mornong it didn't. It opened at the root person (i.e. me) . Just did a check on my details. All the images I had on there have disappeared. In fact all images on every name have all gone. All this is in the FH Project which I always use.

Victor

On 08/01/2021 9:55 am, Ros wrote:
Make sure you are using the correct version of Ancestral Sources for Version 7,  you must have Ancestral Sources 7.

If you are on 7 for both and still have a problem you need to report the problem on FHUG.  


Victor Markham
 

Mike

I have just done another check. This time checked all the names I worked on when adding the census details v AS. I found all those names have disappeared. There were 6 of them.

Sorry I don't have a clue what to do about FAMC and those other references you mentioned

I will keep the exception log.

Victor

On 08/01/2021 10:31 am, Mike Tate wrote:

Victor,

There are several oddities about that Exception Report.

None of the 2 _SHAR lines has a @I123@ link to an Individual record as the Shared Fact Witness.

The _FAMC should be FAMC and that explains why the Family as Child links are all broken.

There was an error reported last month that involved FAMC and PEDI/_PEDI  tags that was never resolved.

I suggest you preserve as much evidence of the errors as possible, i.e. Exception Log and GEDCOM.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 08:21
To: Family History <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Errors

 

I have been working on my FH tree and after just added some census details I got this message I have V7

Family Historian Exception Report - Friday 08 Jan 2021
=========================================================

  Lines marked "EXCLUDED:" indicate data which has not
  been loaded, and explain why it wasn't loaded.

  Indented lines marked "EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:" indicate
  data lines which are not necessarily invalid in
  themselves but which have had to be excluded as a
  consequence of excluding other lines.

  Lines marked "INFO ONLY:" indicate data that has
  been successfully loaded, but where special action
  was needed to load it (e.g. GEDCOM errors detected
  and automatically corrected by Family Historian).

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11117. Record Number=10964.
l.229957 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.229958 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.229959 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.229960 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.229961 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.229962 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 24 DEC 2015"
    l.229963 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11880. Record Number=11684.
l.246511 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.246512 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I21933. Record Number=21444.
l.408998 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "1  _FAMC "
    l.408999 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Step (father)"
    l.409000 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Birth (mother)"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I29483. Record Number=28832.
l.544304 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.544305 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.544306 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.544307 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.544308 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.544309 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 25 DEC 2015"
    l.544310 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

---------------------------------------------------------
The numeric portion of Gedcom Ids have been retained as Record Ids.  Use these to match entries to

It opened up on my name with no other family connections shown. I checked my brother and father details they too were alone.

I have also checked other names it appear they have all become stand alone names

Looks as if all names on my tree have become isolated

Victor

 


Mike Tate
 

This is looking more like an AS V7 problem that should be reported in the FHUG Ancestral Sources Forum for Nick to investigate.

AS keeps backup logs of the GEDCOM file prior to each AS session, so you can use them to recover.

 

However, it may be best not to change anything until Nick has had a chance to investigate.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 11:21
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Mike

I have just done another check. This time checked all the names I worked on when adding the census details v AS. I found all those names have disappeared. There were 6 of them.

Sorry I don't have a clue what to do about FAMC and those other references you mentioned

I will keep the exception log.

Victor

On 08/01/2021 10:31 am, Mike Tate wrote:

Victor,

There are several oddities about that Exception Report.

None of the 2 _SHAR lines has a @I123@ link to an Individual record as the Shared Fact Witness.

The _FAMC should be FAMC and that explains why the Family as Child links are all broken.

There was an error reported last month that involved FAMC and PEDI/_PEDI  tags that was never resolved.

I suggest you preserve as much evidence of the errors as possible, i.e. Exception Log and GEDCOM.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 08:21
To: Family History <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Errors

 

I have been working on my FH tree and after just added some census details I got this message I have V7

Family Historian Exception Report - Friday 08 Jan 2021
=========================================================

  Lines marked "EXCLUDED:" indicate data which has not
  been loaded, and explain why it wasn't loaded.

  Indented lines marked "EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:" indicate
  data lines which are not necessarily invalid in
  themselves but which have had to be excluded as a
  consequence of excluding other lines.

  Lines marked "INFO ONLY:" indicate data that has
  been successfully loaded, but where special action
  was needed to load it (e.g. GEDCOM errors detected
  and automatically corrected by Family Historian).

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11117. Record Number=10964.
l.229957 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.229958 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.229959 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.229960 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.229961 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.229962 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 24 DEC 2015"
    l.229963 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11880. Record Number=11684.
l.246511 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.246512 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I21933. Record Number=21444.
l.408998 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "1  _FAMC "
    l.408999 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Step (father)"
    l.409000 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Birth (mother)"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I29483. Record Number=28832.
l.544304 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.544305 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.544306 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.544307 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.544308 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.544309 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 25 DEC 2015"
    l.544310 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

---------------------------------------------------------
The numeric portion of Gedcom Ids have been retained as Record Ids.  Use these to match entries to

It opened up on my name with no other family connections shown. I checked my brother and father details they too were alone.

I have also checked other names it appear they have all become stand alone names

Looks as if all names on my tree have become isolated

Victor

 


Nick Walker (Ancestral Sources)
 

_FAMC records would certainly not be created by AS so something else must be happening here. If you do think this might be related to AS then please discuss with me Victor either via email or on the AS forum on the FHUG site. This mailing list is a Calico Pie mailing list and Ancestral Sources isn’t one of their products so I don’t want to upset them by discussing it here. Remember that AS keeps a backup copy of your entire file every time it saves an entry.

 

Thanks

 

Nick

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 11:21
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Mike

I have just done another check. This time checked all the names I worked on when adding the census details v AS. I found all those names have disappeared. There were 6 of them.

Sorry I don't have a clue what to do about FAMC and those other references you mentioned

I will keep the exception log.

Victor

On 08/01/2021 10:31 am, Mike Tate wrote:

Victor,

There are several oddities about that Exception Report.

None of the 2 _SHAR lines has a @I123@ link to an Individual record as the Shared Fact Witness.

The _FAMC should be FAMC and that explains why the Family as Child links are all broken.

There was an error reported last month that involved FAMC and PEDI/_PEDI  tags that was never resolved.

I suggest you preserve as much evidence of the errors as possible, i.e. Exception Log and GEDCOM.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 08:21
To: Family History <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Errors

 

I have been working on my FH tree and after just added some census details I got this message I have V7

Family Historian Exception Report - Friday 08 Jan 2021
=========================================================

  Lines marked "EXCLUDED:" indicate data which has not
  been loaded, and explain why it wasn't loaded.

  Indented lines marked "EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:" indicate
  data lines which are not necessarily invalid in
  themselves but which have had to be excluded as a
  consequence of excluding other lines.

  Lines marked "INFO ONLY:" indicate data that has
  been successfully loaded, but where special action
  was needed to load it (e.g. GEDCOM errors detected
  and automatically corrected by Family Historian).

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11117. Record Number=10964.
l.229957 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.229958 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.229959 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.229960 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.229961 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.229962 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 24 DEC 2015"
    l.229963 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11880. Record Number=11684.
l.246511 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.246512 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I21933. Record Number=21444.
l.408998 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "1  _FAMC "
    l.408999 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Step (father)"
    l.409000 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Birth (mother)"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I29483. Record Number=28832.
l.544304 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.544305 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.544306 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.544307 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.544308 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.544309 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 25 DEC 2015"
    l.544310 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

---------------------------------------------------------
The numeric portion of Gedcom Ids have been retained as Record Ids.  Use these to match entries to

It opened up on my name with no other family connections shown. I checked my brother and father details they too were alone.

I have also checked other names it appear they have all become stand alone names

Looks as if all names on my tree have become isolated

Victor

 


Victor Markham
 

Thanks Mike

I have exchanged information with Nick Walker and he has helped to sort this out but I had to use my backup gedcom file. The file I ended up with after using AS turned out to be about a quarter the size of the origianl file. Thanks to the back up it has now been fully restored minus the names I had added since the back up (about 2 weeks ago). These names are not directly related to me so is poblem.

Nick said the problem was not caused by AS.

This just hows how importamnt it is to do back ups. I will better due this more regularly.

Thanks to Nck for help in sorting this out. I wouldn't have had a clue otherwise.

Victor


On 08/01/2021 11:36 am, Mike Tate wrote:

This is looking more like an AS V7 problem that should be reported in the FHUG Ancestral Sources Forum for Nick to investigate.

AS keeps backup logs of the GEDCOM file prior to each AS session, so you can use them to recover.

 

However, it may be best not to change anything until Nick has had a chance to investigate.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 11:21
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Mike

I have just done another check. This time checked all the names I worked on when adding the census details v AS. I found all those names have disappeared. There were 6 of them.

Sorry I don't have a clue what to do about FAMC and those other references you mentioned

I will keep the exception log.

Victor

On 08/01/2021 10:31 am, Mike Tate wrote:

Victor,

There are several oddities about that Exception Report.

None of the 2 _SHAR lines has a @I123@ link to an Individual record as the Shared Fact Witness.

The _FAMC should be FAMC and that explains why the Family as Child links are all broken.

There was an error reported last month that involved FAMC and PEDI/_PEDI  tags that was never resolved.

I suggest you preserve as much evidence of the errors as possible, i.e. Exception Log and GEDCOM.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 08:21
To: Family History <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Errors

 

I have been working on my FH tree and after just added some census details I got this message I have V7

Family Historian Exception Report - Friday 08 Jan 2021
=========================================================

  Lines marked "EXCLUDED:" indicate data which has not
  been loaded, and explain why it wasn't loaded.

  Indented lines marked "EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:" indicate
  data lines which are not necessarily invalid in
  themselves but which have had to be excluded as a
  consequence of excluding other lines.

  Lines marked "INFO ONLY:" indicate data that has
  been successfully loaded, but where special action
  was needed to load it (e.g. GEDCOM errors detected
  and automatically corrected by Family Historian).

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11117. Record Number=10964.
l.229957 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.229958 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.229959 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.229960 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.229961 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.229962 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 24 DEC 2015"
    l.229963 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11880. Record Number=11684.
l.246511 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.246512 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I21933. Record Number=21444.
l.408998 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "1  _FAMC "
    l.408999 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Step (father)"
    l.409000 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Birth (mother)"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I29483. Record Number=28832.
l.544304 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.544305 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.544306 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.544307 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.544308 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.544309 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 25 DEC 2015"
    l.544310 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

---------------------------------------------------------
The numeric portion of Gedcom Ids have been retained as Record Ids.  Use these to match entries to

It opened up on my name with no other family connections shown. I checked my brother and father details they too were alone.

I have also checked other names it appear they have all become stand alone names

Looks as if all names on my tree have become isolated

Victor

 


Mike Tate
 

So has the problem been referred to Calico Pie to investigate?

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 18:00
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Thanks Mike

I have exchanged information with Nick Walker and he has helped to sort this out but I had to use my backup gedcom file. The file I ended up with after using AS turned out to be about a quarter the size of the origianl file. Thanks to the back up it has now been fully restored minus the names I had added since the back up (about 2 weeks ago). These names are not directly related to me so is poblem.

Nick said the problem was not caused by AS.

This just hows how importamnt it is to do back ups. I will better due this more regularly.

Thanks to Nck for help in sorting this out. I wouldn't have had a clue otherwise.

Victor

 

On 08/01/2021 11:36 am, Mike Tate wrote:

This is looking more like an AS V7 problem that should be reported in the FHUG Ancestral Sources Forum for Nick to investigate.

AS keeps backup logs of the GEDCOM file prior to each AS session, so you can use them to recover.

 

However, it may be best not to change anything until Nick has had a chance to investigate.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 11:21
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Mike

I have just done another check. This time checked all the names I worked on when adding the census details v AS. I found all those names have disappeared. There were 6 of them.

Sorry I don't have a clue what to do about FAMC and those other references you mentioned

I will keep the exception log.

Victor

On 08/01/2021 10:31 am, Mike Tate wrote:

Victor,

There are several oddities about that Exception Report.

None of the 2 _SHAR lines has a @I123@ link to an Individual record as the Shared Fact Witness.

The _FAMC should be FAMC and that explains why the Family as Child links are all broken.

There was an error reported last month that involved FAMC and PEDI/_PEDI  tags that was never resolved.

I suggest you preserve as much evidence of the errors as possible, i.e. Exception Log and GEDCOM.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 08:21
To: Family History <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Errors

 

I have been working on my FH tree and after just added some census details I got this message I have V7

Family Historian Exception Report - Friday 08 Jan 2021
=========================================================

  Lines marked "EXCLUDED:" indicate data which has not
  been loaded, and explain why it wasn't loaded.

  Indented lines marked "EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:" indicate
  data lines which are not necessarily invalid in
  themselves but which have had to be excluded as a
  consequence of excluding other lines.

  Lines marked "INFO ONLY:" indicate data that has
  been successfully loaded, but where special action
  was needed to load it (e.g. GEDCOM errors detected
  and automatically corrected by Family Historian).

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11117. Record Number=10964.
l.229957 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.229958 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.229959 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.229960 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.229961 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.229962 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 24 DEC 2015"
    l.229963 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11880. Record Number=11684.
l.246511 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.246512 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I21933. Record Number=21444.
l.408998 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "1  _FAMC "
    l.408999 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Step (father)"
    l.409000 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Birth (mother)"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I29483. Record Number=28832.
l.544304 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.544305 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.544306 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.544307 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.544308 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.544309 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 25 DEC 2015"
    l.544310 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

---------------------------------------------------------
The numeric portion of Gedcom Ids have been retained as Record Ids.  Use these to match entries to

It opened up on my name with no other family connections shown. I checked my brother and father details they too were alone.

I have also checked other names it appear they have all become stand alone names

Looks as if all names on my tree have become isolated

Victor

 


colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

Which problem, Mike? CP have referred Victor to the FHUG forums for AS support. I logged Victor's original 'import' problem and I know they asked for a copy of his gedcom to investigate.


From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> on behalf of Mike Tate <post@...>
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 6:34:21 PM
To: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors
 

So has the problem been referred to Calico Pie to investigate?

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 18:00
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Thanks Mike

I have exchanged information with Nick Walker and he has helped to sort this out but I had to use my backup gedcom file. The file I ended up with after using AS turned out to be about a quarter the size of the origianl file. Thanks to the back up it has now been fully restored minus the names I had added since the back up (about 2 weeks ago). These names are not directly related to me so is poblem.

Nick said the problem was not caused by AS.

This just hows how importamnt it is to do back ups. I will better due this more regularly.

Thanks to Nck for help in sorting this out. I wouldn't have had a clue otherwise.

Victor

 

On 08/01/2021 11:36 am, Mike Tate wrote:

This is looking more like an AS V7 problem that should be reported in the FHUG Ancestral Sources Forum for Nick to investigate.

AS keeps backup logs of the GEDCOM file prior to each AS session, so you can use them to recover.

 

However, it may be best not to change anything until Nick has had a chance to investigate.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 11:21
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Mike

I have just done another check. This time checked all the names I worked on when adding the census details v AS. I found all those names have disappeared. There were 6 of them.

Sorry I don't have a clue what to do about FAMC and those other references you mentioned

I will keep the exception log.

Victor

On 08/01/2021 10:31 am, Mike Tate wrote:

Victor,

There are several oddities about that Exception Report.

None of the 2 _SHAR lines has a @I123@ link to an Individual record as the Shared Fact Witness.

The _FAMC should be FAMC and that explains why the Family as Child links are all broken.

There was an error reported last month that involved FAMC and PEDI/_PEDI  tags that was never resolved.

I suggest you preserve as much evidence of the errors as possible, i.e. Exception Log and GEDCOM.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 08:21
To: Family History <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Errors

 

I have been working on my FH tree and after just added some census details I got this message I have V7

Family Historian Exception Report - Friday 08 Jan 2021
=========================================================

  Lines marked "EXCLUDED:" indicate data which has not
  been loaded, and explain why it wasn't loaded.

  Indented lines marked "EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:" indicate
  data lines which are not necessarily invalid in
  themselves but which have had to be excluded as a
  consequence of excluding other lines.

  Lines marked "INFO ONLY:" indicate data that has
  been successfully loaded, but where special action
  was needed to load it (e.g. GEDCOM errors detected
  and automatically corrected by Family Historian).

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11117. Record Number=10964.
l.229957 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.229958 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.229959 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.229960 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.229961 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.229962 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 24 DEC 2015"
    l.229963 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11880. Record Number=11684.
l.246511 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.246512 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I21933. Record Number=21444.
l.408998 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "1  _FAMC "
    l.408999 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Step (father)"
    l.409000 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Birth (mother)"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I29483. Record Number=28832.
l.544304 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.544305 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.544306 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.544307 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.544308 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.544309 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 25 DEC 2015"
    l.544310 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

---------------------------------------------------------
The numeric portion of Gedcom Ids have been retained as Record Ids.  Use these to match entries to

It opened up on my name with no other family connections shown. I checked my brother and father details they too were alone.

I have also checked other names it appear they have all become stand alone names

Looks as if all names on my tree have become isolated

Victor

 


Nick Walker (Ancestral Sources)
 

Just to clarify that I didn’t actually say that AS wasn’t the cause of the issue, I actually said that it seemed very strange because I’d expect an error message or AS to have crashed but that it did point to something like that happening. Victor’s file only had about a quarter of the GEDCOM file saved. I’ve not had any problems like this reported for many years as far as I can remember and I can’t really see how AS would do this. The good thing is that AS backs up the GEDCOM file before making any changes so it was very easy to copy the file over with no resulting loss of data.

 

Best wishes

 

Nick

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 18:00
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Thanks Mike

I have exchanged information with Nick Walker and he has helped to sort this out but I had to use my backup gedcom file. The file I ended up with after using AS turned out to be about a quarter the size of the origianl file. Thanks to the back up it has now been fully restored minus the names I had added since the back up (about 2 weeks ago). These names are not directly related to me so is poblem.

Nick said the problem was not caused by AS.

This just hows how importamnt it is to do back ups. I will better due this more regularly.

Thanks to Nck for help in sorting this out. I wouldn't have had a clue otherwise.

Victor

 

On 08/01/2021 11:36 am, Mike Tate wrote:

This is looking more like an AS V7 problem that should be reported in the FHUG Ancestral Sources Forum for Nick to investigate.

AS keeps backup logs of the GEDCOM file prior to each AS session, so you can use them to recover.

 

However, it may be best not to change anything until Nick has had a chance to investigate.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 11:21
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Mike

I have just done another check. This time checked all the names I worked on when adding the census details v AS. I found all those names have disappeared. There were 6 of them.

Sorry I don't have a clue what to do about FAMC and those other references you mentioned

I will keep the exception log.

Victor

On 08/01/2021 10:31 am, Mike Tate wrote:

Victor,

There are several oddities about that Exception Report.

None of the 2 _SHAR lines has a @I123@ link to an Individual record as the Shared Fact Witness.

The _FAMC should be FAMC and that explains why the Family as Child links are all broken.

There was an error reported last month that involved FAMC and PEDI/_PEDI  tags that was never resolved.

I suggest you preserve as much evidence of the errors as possible, i.e. Exception Log and GEDCOM.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 08:21
To: Family History <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Errors

 

I have been working on my FH tree and after just added some census details I got this message I have V7

Family Historian Exception Report - Friday 08 Jan 2021
=========================================================

  Lines marked "EXCLUDED:" indicate data which has not
  been loaded, and explain why it wasn't loaded.

  Indented lines marked "EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:" indicate
  data lines which are not necessarily invalid in
  themselves but which have had to be excluded as a
  consequence of excluding other lines.

  Lines marked "INFO ONLY:" indicate data that has
  been successfully loaded, but where special action
  was needed to load it (e.g. GEDCOM errors detected
  and automatically corrected by Family Historian).

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11117. Record Number=10964.
l.229957 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.229958 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.229959 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.229960 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.229961 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.229962 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 24 DEC 2015"
    l.229963 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11880. Record Number=11684.
l.246511 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.246512 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I21933. Record Number=21444.
l.408998 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "1  _FAMC "
    l.408999 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Step (father)"
    l.409000 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Birth (mother)"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I29483. Record Number=28832.
l.544304 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.544305 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.544306 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.544307 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.544308 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.544309 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 25 DEC 2015"
    l.544310 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

---------------------------------------------------------
The numeric portion of Gedcom Ids have been retained as Record Ids.  Use these to match entries to

It opened up on my name with no other family connections shown. I checked my brother and father details they too were alone.

I have also checked other names it appear they have all become stand alone names

Looks as if all names on my tree have become isolated

Victor

 


Mike Tate
 

Victor had a similar problem on 12 Dec 2020 also involving many _FAMC PEDI error messages.

See https://groups.io/g/family-historian/topic/78917784  “FH V7” topic.

So is there an inherent problem in his GEDCOM or is there a bug in FH?

Only Calico Pie can determine that, which is why I suggest reporting to them.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Nick Walker (Ancestral Sources)
Sent: 08 January 2021 19:00
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Just to clarify that I didn’t actually say that AS wasn’t the cause of the issue, I actually said that it seemed very strange because I’d expect an error message or AS to have crashed but that it did point to something like that happening. Victor’s file only had about a quarter of the GEDCOM file saved. I’ve not had any problems like this reported for many years as far as I can remember and I can’t really see how AS would do this. The good thing is that AS backs up the GEDCOM file before making any changes so it was very easy to copy the file over with no resulting loss of data.

 

Best wishes

 

Nick

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 18:00
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Thanks Mike

I have exchanged information with Nick Walker and he has helped to sort this out but I had to use my backup gedcom file. The file I ended up with after using AS turned out to be about a quarter the size of the origianl file. Thanks to the back up it has now been fully restored minus the names I had added since the back up (about 2 weeks ago). These names are not directly related to me so is poblem.

Nick said the problem was not caused by AS.

This just hows how importamnt it is to do back ups. I will better due this more regularly.

Thanks to Nck for help in sorting this out. I wouldn't have had a clue otherwise.

Victor

 

On 08/01/2021 11:36 am, Mike Tate wrote:

This is looking more like an AS V7 problem that should be reported in the FHUG Ancestral Sources Forum for Nick to investigate.

AS keeps backup logs of the GEDCOM file prior to each AS session, so you can use them to recover.

 

However, it may be best not to change anything until Nick has had a chance to investigate.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 11:21
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Mike

I have just done another check. This time checked all the names I worked on when adding the census details v AS. I found all those names have disappeared. There were 6 of them.

Sorry I don't have a clue what to do about FAMC and those other references you mentioned

I will keep the exception log.

Victor

On 08/01/2021 10:31 am, Mike Tate wrote:

Victor,

There are several oddities about that Exception Report.

None of the 2 _SHAR lines has a @I123@ link to an Individual record as the Shared Fact Witness.

The _FAMC should be FAMC and that explains why the Family as Child links are all broken.

There was an error reported last month that involved FAMC and PEDI/_PEDI  tags that was never resolved.

I suggest you preserve as much evidence of the errors as possible, i.e. Exception Log and GEDCOM.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 08:21
To: Family History <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Errors

 

I have been working on my FH tree and after just added some census details I got this message I have V7

Family Historian Exception Report - Friday 08 Jan 2021
=========================================================

  Lines marked "EXCLUDED:" indicate data which has not
  been loaded, and explain why it wasn't loaded.

  Indented lines marked "EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:" indicate
  data lines which are not necessarily invalid in
  themselves but which have had to be excluded as a
  consequence of excluding other lines.

  Lines marked "INFO ONLY:" indicate data that has
  been successfully loaded, but where special action
  was needed to load it (e.g. GEDCOM errors detected
  and automatically corrected by Family Historian).

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11117. Record Number=10964.
l.229957 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.229958 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.229959 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.229960 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.229961 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.229962 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 24 DEC 2015"
    l.229963 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11880. Record Number=11684.
l.246511 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.246512 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I21933. Record Number=21444.
l.408998 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "1  _FAMC "
    l.408999 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Step (father)"
    l.409000 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Birth (mother)"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I29483. Record Number=28832.
l.544304 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.544305 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.544306 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.544307 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.544308 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.544309 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 25 DEC 2015"
    l.544310 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

---------------------------------------------------------
The numeric portion of Gedcom Ids have been retained as Record Ids.  Use these to match entries to

It opened up on my name with no other family connections shown. I checked my brother and father details they too were alone.

I have also checked other names it appear they have all become stand alone names

Looks as if all names on my tree have become isolated

Victor

 


Mike Tate
 

Yes, but Nick thinks it is probably not an AS problem.

I did not know that earlier problem had been logged with CP and investigated. How would I?

However, that problem and this problem have remarkably similar symptoms, so maybe together they might pinpoint the problem.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of colevalleygirl@...
Sent: 08 January 2021 18:39
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Which problem, Mike? CP have referred Victor to the FHUG forums for AS support. I logged Victor's original 'import' problem and I know they asked for a copy of his gedcom to investigate.


From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> on behalf of Mike Tate <post@...>
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 6:34:21 PM
To: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

So has the problem been referred to Calico Pie to investigate?

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 18:00
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Thanks Mike

I have exchanged information with Nick Walker and he has helped to sort this out but I had to use my backup gedcom file. The file I ended up with after using AS turned out to be about a quarter the size of the origianl file. Thanks to the back up it has now been fully restored minus the names I had added since the back up (about 2 weeks ago). These names are not directly related to me so is poblem.

Nick said the problem was not caused by AS.

This just hows how importamnt it is to do back ups. I will better due this more regularly.

Thanks to Nck for help in sorting this out. I wouldn't have had a clue otherwise.

Victor

 

On 08/01/2021 11:36 am, Mike Tate wrote:

This is looking more like an AS V7 problem that should be reported in the FHUG Ancestral Sources Forum for Nick to investigate.

AS keeps backup logs of the GEDCOM file prior to each AS session, so you can use them to recover.

 

However, it may be best not to change anything until Nick has had a chance to investigate.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 11:21
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Mike

I have just done another check. This time checked all the names I worked on when adding the census details v AS. I found all those names have disappeared. There were 6 of them.

Sorry I don't have a clue what to do about FAMC and those other references you mentioned

I will keep the exception log.

Victor

On 08/01/2021 10:31 am, Mike Tate wrote:

Victor,

There are several oddities about that Exception Report.

None of the 2 _SHAR lines has a @I123@ link to an Individual record as the Shared Fact Witness.

The _FAMC should be FAMC and that explains why the Family as Child links are all broken.

There was an error reported last month that involved FAMC and PEDI/_PEDI  tags that was never resolved.

I suggest you preserve as much evidence of the errors as possible, i.e. Exception Log and GEDCOM.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 08:21
To: Family History <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Errors

 

I have been working on my FH tree and after just added some census details I got this message I have V7

Family Historian Exception Report - Friday 08 Jan 2021
=========================================================

  Lines marked "EXCLUDED:" indicate data which has not
  been loaded, and explain why it wasn't loaded.

  Indented lines marked "EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:" indicate
  data lines which are not necessarily invalid in
  themselves but which have had to be excluded as a
  consequence of excluding other lines.

  Lines marked "INFO ONLY:" indicate data that has
  been successfully loaded, but where special action
  was needed to load it (e.g. GEDCOM errors detected
  and automatically corrected by Family Historian).

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11117. Record Number=10964.
l.229957 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.229958 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.229959 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.229960 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.229961 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.229962 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 24 DEC 2015"
    l.229963 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11880. Record Number=11684.
l.246511 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.246512 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I21933. Record Number=21444.
l.408998 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "1  _FAMC "
    l.408999 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Step (father)"
    l.409000 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "2  _PEDI Birth (mother)"

Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I29483. Record Number=28832.
l.544304 - EXCLUDED: invalid line           : "2  _SHAR "
    l.544305 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  ROLE Informant"
    l.544306 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "3  SOUR "
    l.544307 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  PAGE Death Certificate"
    l.544308 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  DATA "
    l.544309 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "5  DATE 25 DEC 2015"
    l.544310 - EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:        : "4  QUAY 3"

---------------------------------------------------------
The numeric portion of Gedcom Ids have been retained as Record Ids.  Use these to match entries to

It opened up on my name with no other family connections shown. I checked my brother and father details they too were alone.

I have also checked other names it appear they have all become stand alone names

Looks as if all names on my tree have become isolated

Victor

 


colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

Victor,

 

it would be very helpful if you could contact CP via http://support.calico-pie.com/open.php with this latest information, and supply a copy of your Gedcom before it was migrated to V7 (if you haven’t already done so).. There’s clearly something odd going on that needs sorting out both for your own benefit and the benefit of other users who might have the same problem.

 

Helen

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 08 January 2021 19:54
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Yes, but Nick thinks it is probably not an AS problem.

I did not know that earlier problem had been logged with CP and investigated. How would I?

However, that problem and this problem have remarkably similar symptoms, so maybe together they might pinpoint the problem.


Victor Markham
 

Helen

Calico Pie has been in touch with me about this. Unfortunately I didn't have a copy of V6 before I upgraded

Victor

On 09/01/2021 7:02 am, colevalleygirl@... wrote:

Victor,

 

it would be very helpful if you could contact CP via http://support.calico-pie.com/open.php with this latest information, and supply a copy of your Gedcom before it was migrated to V7 (if you haven’t already done so).. There’s clearly something odd going on that needs sorting out both for your own benefit and the benefit of other users who might have the same problem.

 

Helen

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 08 January 2021 19:54
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Yes, but Nick thinks it is probably not an AS problem.

I did not know that earlier problem had been logged with CP and investigated. How would I?

However, that problem and this problem have remarkably similar symptoms, so maybe together they might pinpoint the problem.


John Hanson
 

Victor

That would imply that you didn’t do a backup before the migration to FH7
I must admit that having been using a family history program of some sort or another for over 30 years (I started with PAF version2!) when there were only 13 facts! And no sources!!!

I now make sure that when I migrate to a new version I copy the entire set of projects into a brand new set of folders and migrate the new ones to the new version leaving there old pone there just in case. On top of that there is a backup copy of the final FH6 file that stored separately and never touched
Mind I spent my working life in mainframe database and backup was always the key especially working in the finance industry

Disc space is cheap these days and your data can’t be replaced that easily

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 09 January 2021 08:08
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Helen

Calico Pie has been in touch with me about this. Unfortunately I didn't have a copy of V6 before I upgraded

Victor

On 09/01/2021 7:02 am, colevalleygirl@... wrote:

Victor,

 

it would be very helpful if you could contact CP via http://support.calico-pie.com/open.php with this latest information, and supply a copy of your Gedcom before it was migrated to V7 (if you haven’t already done so).. There’s clearly something odd going on that needs sorting out both for your own benefit and the benefit of other users who might have the same problem.

 

Helen

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 08 January 2021 19:54
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Yes, but Nick thinks it is probably not an AS problem.

I did not know that earlier problem had been logged with CP and investigated. How would I?

However, that problem and this problem have remarkably similar symptoms, so maybe together they might pinpoint the problem.


Mike Tate
 

It may not be relevant but I just discovered another problem related to FAMC tags.

Both BIRT and ADOP facts allow a subsidiary FAMC tag to identify parents.

In ISR and Family Group Sheet the Address of such facts is listed twice.

That happens when both Addresses and Notes are enabled lower left, which is the default.

I plan to report this to CP separately anyway.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Hanson
Sent: 09 January 2021 09:26
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Victor

That would imply that you didn’t do a backup before the migration to FH7
I must admit that having been using a family history program of some sort or another for over 30 years (I started with PAF version2!) when there were only 13 facts! And no sources!!!

I now make sure that when I migrate to a new version I copy the entire set of projects into a brand new set of folders and migrate the new ones to the new version leaving there old pone there just in case. On top of that there is a backup copy of the final FH6 file that stored separately and never touched
Mind I spent my working life in mainframe database and backup was always the key especially working in the finance industry

Disc space is cheap these days and your data can’t be replaced that easily

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 09 January 2021 08:08
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Helen

Calico Pie has been in touch with me about this. Unfortunately I didn't have a copy of V6 before I upgraded

Victor

On 09/01/2021 7:02 am, colevalleygirl@... wrote:

Victor,

 

it would be very helpful if you could contact CP via http://support.calico-pie.com/open.php with this latest information, and supply a copy of your Gedcom before it was migrated to V7 (if you haven’t already done so).. There’s clearly something odd going on that needs sorting out both for your own benefit and the benefit of other users who might have the same problem.

 

Helen

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 08 January 2021 19:54
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Errors

 

Yes, but Nick thinks it is probably not an AS problem.

I did not know that earlier problem had been logged with CP and investigated. How would I?

However, that problem and this problem have remarkably similar symptoms, so maybe together they might pinpoint the problem.