Mike,

You wrote: “...Therefore, in the Plugin it is under Tag Set <Custom Facts> with Tag Name EVEN-ADDRESS (or possibly _ATTR-ADDRESS).”

In Patrick’s first post he said the sentence FH generates for his Address fact is 'He experienced Address on ...’.  So it must be an event, not an attribute.

 

Patrick,

You didn’t say which software you had previously been using but do follow the link Mike gave, where there is detailed advice about the ‘quirks’ of importing from many other particular programs. Scroll down to the section headed ‘Importing to Family Historian’ and select the program you have been using.  It’s probably in the list. (If it’s not, this will present a new challenge for Mike!)

 

As an example of the things which need to be considered, in FH there is a distinction between a Place and an Address.  Depending on which software you were using the ‘Address’ facts you have imported probably refer to Places as well as, or instead of, Addresses.  Where is FH currently storing the data from your Address fact? Is it an Uncategorised Data Field (UDF)?  Is it in a Note field, or a Place field, or an Address field?  Do you want the entire ‘Address’ to go in the Place field of the new Residence attribute?

 

Lorna

 

From: Mike Tate
Sent: 20 May 2020 10:31
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Changing Fact Types

 

Hi Patrick,

 

I suspect the root problem is that you are not working through the advice I have posted in enough detail.

 

The is much advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Importing to Family Historian:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:index#importing_to_family_historian

In particular, there is advice about handling the Uncategorised Data Fields (UDF).

Until such issues are resolved, some Plugins may struggle to cope with them as they don’t know what they mean.

 

Did you check the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Family Historian Plugins ~ Help and Advice for the Change Any Fact Tag Plugin?

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=plugins:index

 

I am sure that the UDF tag _ADDR is NOT your Address fact. That _ADDR tag will be listed in the All tab as a UDF.

You say FH lists Address with a Sentence using the word Address on the Facts tab so I assumed it was a custom fact.

Therefore, in the Plugin it is under Tag Set <Custom Facts> with Tag Name EVEN-ADDRESS (or possibly _ATTR-ADDRESS).

 

To be honest I had not expected you to leap into using the Plugin without asking for further advice.

Migrating GEDCOM from product to product is often more complex than users realise.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Maloney
Sent: 20 May 2020 01:01
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Changing Fact Types

 

Hi again Mike!

OK, update. I found a UDF tag, _ADDR that seemed to be the one I was looking for. I selected it and clicked the '_ADDR UDF Tag to Residence' button. I ran it against a single individual, and received 6 warnings about invalid tags and the message: 'Check that the Source and Target are compatible', which I guess they weren't.

The change to the record was simply the addition of a new blank 'Residence' fact.

I'm out of my depth here.

Patrick

 

On 20/05/2020 00:40, Patrick Maloney wrote:

Mike,

I must be really dim. I can't for the life of me see how this plugin works.

At the top there are two buttons: 'Baptism to Christening' and 'Christening to Baptism'. These seem to be unchangeable. I don't want either of those.

Looking at the list of tags, I can't see 'Address' in any list. I assume 'Source Tag Name' is where I should be able to find this, and 'Target Tag Name' is where I enter 'Residence'?

I've been through all the Source Tag Sets and still can't find 'Address'.

Any help would be gratefully received.

Thanks,

Patrick

 

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Hi Patrick,

I suspect the root problem is that you are not working through the advice I have posted in enough detail.

The is much advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Importing to Family Historian:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:index#importing_to_family_historian

In particular, there is advice about handling the Uncategorised Data Fields (UDF).

Until such issues are resolved, some Plugins may struggle to cope with them as they don’t know what they mean.

Did you check the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Family Historian Plugins ~ Help and Advice for the Change Any Fact Tag Plugin?

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=plugins:index

I am sure that the UDF tag _ADDR is NOT your Address fact. That _ADDR tag will be listed in the All tab as a UDF.

You say FH lists Address with a Sentence using the word Address on the Facts tab so I assumed it was a custom fact.

Therefore, in the Plugin it is under Tag Set <Custom Facts> with Tag Name EVEN-ADDRESS (or possibly _ATTR-ADDRESS).

To be honest I had not expected you to leap into using the Plugin without asking for further advice.

Migrating GEDCOM from product to product is often more complex than users realise.

Regards, Mike Tate

Hi again Mike!

OK, update. I found a UDF tag, _ADDR that seemed to be the one I was looking for. I selected it and clicked the '_ADDR UDF Tag to Residence' button. I ran it against a single individual, and received 6 warnings about invalid tags and the message: 'Check that the Source and Target are compatible', which I guess they weren't.

The change to the record was simply the addition of a new blank 'Residence' fact.

I'm out of my depth here.

Patrick

Mike,

I must be really dim. I can't for the life of me see how this plugin works.

At the top there are two buttons: 'Baptism to Christening' and 'Christening to Baptism'. These seem to be unchangeable. I don't want either of those.

Looking at the list of tags, I can't see 'Address' in any list. I assume 'Source Tag Name' is where I should be able to find this, and 'Target Tag Name' is where I enter 'Residence'?

I've been through all the Source Tag Sets and still can't find 'Address'.

Any help would be gratefully received.

Thanks,

Patrick

Hi Patrick,

 

I suspect the root problem is that you are not working through the advice I have posted in enough detail.

 

The is much advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Importing to Family Historian:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:index#importing_to_family_historian

In particular, there is advice about handling the Uncategorised Data Fields (UDF).

Until such issues are resolved, some Plugins may struggle to cope with them as they don’t know what they mean.

 

Did you check the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Family Historian Plugins ~ Help and Advice for the Change Any Fact Tag Plugin?

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=plugins:index

 

I am sure that the UDF tag _ADDR is NOT your Address fact. That _ADDR tag will be listed in the All tab as a UDF.

You say FH lists Address with a Sentence using the word Address on the Facts tab so I assumed it was a custom fact.

Therefore, in the Plugin it is under Tag Set <Custom Facts> with Tag Name EVEN-ADDRESS (or possibly _ATTR-ADDRESS).

 

To be honest I had not expected you to leap into using the Plugin without asking for further advice.

Migrating GEDCOM from product to product is often more complex than users realise.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Maloney
Sent: 20 May 2020 01:01
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Changing Fact Types

 

Hi again Mike!

OK, update. I found a UDF tag, _ADDR that seemed to be the one I was looking for. I selected it and clicked the '_ADDR UDF Tag to Residence' button. I ran it against a single individual, and received 6 warnings about invalid tags and the message: 'Check that the Source and Target are compatible', which I guess they weren't.

The change to the record was simply the addition of a new blank 'Residence' fact.

I'm out of my depth here.

Patrick

 

On 20/05/2020 00:40, Patrick Maloney wrote:

Mike,

I must be really dim. I can't for the life of me see how this plugin works.

At the top there are two buttons: 'Baptism to Christening' and 'Christening to Baptism'. These seem to be unchangeable. I don't want either of those.

Looking at the list of tags, I can't see 'Address' in any list. I assume 'Source Tag Name' is where I should be able to find this, and 'Target Tag Name' is where I enter 'Residence'?

I've been through all the Source Tag Sets and still can't find 'Address'.

Any help would be gratefully received.

Thanks,

Patrick

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Hi again Mike!

OK, update. I found a UDF tag, _ADDR that seemed to be the one I was looking for. I selected it and clicked the '_ADDR UDF Tag to Residence' button. I ran it against a single individual, and received 6 warnings about invalid tags and the message: 'Check that the Source and Target are compatible', which I guess they weren't.

The change to the record was simply the addition of a new blank 'Residence' fact.

I'm out of my depth here.

Patrick

Mike,

I must be really dim. I can't for the life of me see how this plugin works.

At the top there are two buttons: 'Baptism to Christening' and 'Christening to Baptism'. These seem to be unchangeable. I don't want either of those.

Looking at the list of tags, I can't see 'Address' in any list. I assume 'Source Tag Name' is where I should be able to find this, and 'Target Tag Name' is where I enter 'Residence'?

I've been through all the Source Tag Sets and still can't find 'Address'.

Any help would be gratefully received.

Thanks,

Patrick

Virus-free. www.avast.com

Mike,

I must be really dim. I can't for the life of me see how this plugin works.

At the top there are two buttons: 'Baptism to Christening' and 'Christening to Baptism'. These seem to be unchangeable. I don't want either of those.

Looking at the list of tags, I can't see 'Address' in any list. I assume 'Source Tag Name' is where I should be able to find this, and 'Target Tag Name' is where I enter 'Residence'?

I've been through all the Source Tag Sets and still can't find 'Address'.

Any help would be gratefully received.

Thanks,

Patrick

On 19/05/2020 21:20, Mike Tate wrote:

Hi Patrick,

That is quite a common problem when importing GEDCOM from other products.

There is general advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Importing to Family Historian:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:index#importing_to_family_historian

You may well find other abnormalities if you follow the above advice.

There is a Change Any Fact Tag Plugin that will perform the conversion to standard Residence facts.

There is advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Family Historian Plugins:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=plugins:index

That explains how to download Plugins from the Plugin Store and provides Help and Advice for the Plugin mentioned above.

BTW: Did you just open the GEDCOM file, or use File > Project Window > New Project > Import a GEDCOM file as a Project, which is recommended?

Regards, Mike Tate

-----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Maloney
Sent: 19 May 2020 20:56
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Changing Fact Types

Hello Everyone,

I'm a recent convert to FH.  I transferred my research in Gedcom format into FH. My previous software package used the file-type 'Address', the equivalent of which in FH seems to be 'Residence'.

Many of he people in my file have multiple addresses, the fact types being Address [1], Address [2], etc.

Because my old software used 'Address' rather than 'Residence' results in the text for the fact being displayed as 'He experienced Address on

30 March 1851 in King St, Anytown, Anyshire.'

Is there a simple way to convert 'Address' fact-types to 'Residence'

fact-types? Otherwise I have hundreds, nay thousands of facts to change and/or re-enter.

Many thanks,

Patrick

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Hi Patrick,

That is quite a common problem when importing GEDCOM from other products.

There is general advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Importing to Family Historian:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:index#importing_to_family_historian

You may well find other abnormalities if you follow the above advice.

There is a Change Any Fact Tag Plugin that will perform the conversion to standard Residence facts.

There is advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Family Historian Plugins:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=plugins:index

That explains how to download Plugins from the Plugin Store and provides Help and Advice for the Plugin mentioned above.

BTW: Did you just open the GEDCOM file, or use File > Project Window > New Project > Import a GEDCOM file as a Project, which is recommended?

Regards, Mike Tate

-----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Maloney
Sent: 19 May 2020 20:56
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Changing Fact Types

Hello Everyone,

I'm a recent convert to FH.  I transferred my research in Gedcom format into FH. My previous software package used the file-type 'Address', the equivalent of which in FH seems to be 'Residence'.

Many of he people in my file have multiple addresses, the fact types being Address [1], Address [2], etc.

Because my old software used 'Address' rather than 'Residence' results in the text for the fact being displayed as 'He experienced Address on

30 March 1851 in King St, Anytown, Anyshire.'

Is there a simple way to convert 'Address' fact-types to 'Residence'

fact-types? Otherwise I have hundreds, nay thousands of facts to change and/or re-enter.

Many thanks,

Patrick

Virus-free. www.avast.com

Hi Mike,

Thanks four very fast and full response.

I originally imported the Gedcom file using the Import feature.

I'll try re-importing to a new project and see what it throws up. Then I'll try the Plugin.

Many thanks,

Patrick

On 19/05/2020 21:20, Mike Tate wrote:

Hi Patrick,

That is quite a common problem when importing GEDCOM from other products.

There is general advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Importing to Family Historian:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:index#importing_to_family_historian

You may well find other abnormalities if you follow the above advice.

There is a Change Any Fact Tag Plugin that will perform the conversion to standard Residence facts.

There is advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Family Historian Plugins:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=plugins:index

That explains how to download Plugins from the Plugin Store and provides Help and Advice for the Plugin mentioned above.

BTW: Did you just open the GEDCOM file, or use File > Project Window > New Project > Import a GEDCOM file as a Project, which is recommended?

Regards, Mike Tate

-----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Maloney
Sent: 19 May 2020 20:56
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Changing Fact Types

Hello Everyone,

I'm a recent convert to FH.  I transferred my research in Gedcom format into FH. My previous software package used the file-type 'Address', the equivalent of which in FH seems to be 'Residence'.

Many of he people in my file have multiple addresses, the fact types being Address [1], Address [2], etc.

Because my old software used 'Address' rather than 'Residence' results in the text for the fact being displayed as 'He experienced Address on

30 March 1851 in King St, Anytown, Anyshire.'

Is there a simple way to convert 'Address' fact-types to 'Residence'

fact-types? Otherwise I have hundreds, nay thousands of facts to change and/or re-enter.

Many thanks,

Patrick

Virus-free. www.avast.com

Hi Patrick,

That is quite a common problem when importing GEDCOM from other products.

There is general advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Importing to Family Historian:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:index#importing_to_family_historian

You may well find other abnormalities if you follow the above advice.

There is a Change Any Fact Tag Plugin that will perform the conversion to standard Residence facts.

There is advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Family Historian Plugins:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=plugins:index

That explains how to download Plugins from the Plugin Store and provides Help and Advice for the Plugin mentioned above.

BTW: Did you just open the GEDCOM file, or use File > Project Window > New Project > Import a GEDCOM file as a Project, which is recommended?

Regards, Mike Tate

-----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Maloney
Sent: 19 May 2020 20:56
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Changing Fact Types

Hello Everyone,

I'm a recent convert to FH.  I transferred my research in Gedcom format into FH. My previous software package used the file-type 'Address', the equivalent of which in FH seems to be 'Residence'.

Many of he people in my file have multiple addresses, the fact types being Address [1], Address [2], etc.

Because my old software used 'Address' rather than 'Residence' results in the text for the fact being displayed as 'He experienced Address on

30 March 1851 in King St, Anytown, Anyshire.'

Is there a simple way to convert 'Address' fact-types to 'Residence'

fact-types? Otherwise I have hundreds, nay thousands of facts to change and/or re-enter.

Many thanks,

Patrick

Virus-free. www.avast.com

Hello Everyone,

I'm a recent convert to FH.  I transferred my research in Gedcom format into FH. My previous software package used the file-type 'Address', the equivalent of which in FH seems to be 'Residence'.

Many of he people in my file have multiple addresses, the fact types being Address [1], Address [2], etc.

Because my old software used 'Address' rather than 'Residence' results in the text for the fact being displayed as 'He experienced Address on

30 March 1851 in King St, Anytown, Anyshire.'

Is there a simple way to convert 'Address' fact-types to 'Residence'

fact-types? Otherwise I have hundreds, nay thousands of facts to change and/or re-enter.

Many thanks,

Patrick

Virus-free. www.avast.com