1921 Census Children under 16 Table - Exporting


dave@...
 

In the 1921 Census we have a table that indicates the number of children under 16.

I have replicated this in FH by creating an Autotext that I use in the note for the census event.
This puts in a table with the base text and I fill it in the 'X' as appropriate.


This works very well and I will continue to do this for all my 1921 Census entries.

However, and this is just a note of caution, if, like me, you export your data for use elsewhere.
I use GedExplorer on my Android tablet and GedView on iPad, I also have a TNG website.

The results that you get from these apps varies.

GedView tends to show you the HTML along the lines of:


The alternative is to use the ordinary File, Export which will give you something slightly more readable.
Count <1 • 1 • 2 • 3 • 4 • 5 • 6 • 7 • 8 • 9 • 10 • 11 • 12 • 13 • 14 • 15
7 • X • • X • • • X • • X • • • • • X • • X • X

GedExplorer gives a result similar to this:
Count \|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15 7|X||X|||X||X|||||X||X|X


For uploading to TNG the best result is to use Mike Tate's 'Export Gedcom' and set Rich Text Formatting to (HTML 5)....
This gives a usable result:-


If you do intend to use tables in notes and plan on using them elsewhere, it may be worth doing a few tests beforehand so that you know how it will look.


David Burgess
 

Hi Dave

If you use Ancestral Sources the 1921 Census includes a template for recording these details.  You only need to enter the details once and they are entered into Family Historian for every member of the household.  Ancestral Sources has just been updated to include the 1921 Census.  A wonderful tool.

Regards

David Burgess

On 02/03/2022 16:00, dave@... wrote:
In the 1921 Census we have a table that indicates the number of children under 16.

I have replicated this in FH by creating an Autotext that I use in the note for the census event.
This puts in a table with the base text and I fill it in the 'X' as appropriate.


This works very well and I will continue to do this for all my 1921 Census entries.

However, and this is just a note of caution, if, like me, you export your data for use elsewhere.
I use GedExplorer on my Android tablet and GedView on iPad, I also have a TNG website.

The results that you get from these apps varies.

GedView tends to show you the HTML along the lines of:


The alternative is to use the ordinary File, Export which will give you something slightly more readable.
Count <1 • 1 • 2 • 3 • 4 • 5 • 6 • 7 • 8 • 9 • 10 • 11 • 12 • 13 • 14 • 15
7 • X • • X • • • X • • X • • • • • X • • X • X

GedExplorer gives a result similar to this:
Count \|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15 7|X||X|||X||X|||||X||X|X


For uploading to TNG the best result is to use Mike Tate's 'Export Gedcom' and set Rich Text Formatting to (HTML 5)....
This gives a usable result:-


If you do intend to use tables in notes and plan on using them elsewhere, it may be worth doing a few tests beforehand so that you know how it will look.
-- 
David Burgess


liz_graydon
 

I haven't updated my version of Ancestral Sources because I am still using version 6 of Family Historian.  Does it still work with version 6 without making any other changes other than adding the 1921 census?
 
 
 
On Wednesday, 2 March 2022, 16:35:04 GMT, David Burgess via groups.io <david.burgess42@...> wrote:
 
 

Hi Dave

If you use Ancestral Sources the 1921 Census includes a template for recording these details.  You only need to enter the details once and they are entered into Family Historian for every member of the household.  Ancestral Sources has just been updated to include the 1921 Census.  A wonderful tool.

Regards

David Burgess

 


Nick Walker (Ancestral Sources)
 

Yes of course Ancestral Sources continues to support earlier versions of Family Historian as it always has. There have been a number of improvements over the last 18 months including bug fixes so you should definitely upgrade.

Best wishes

Nick

Nick Walker
Ancestral Sources Developer

On 02/03/2022 22:35 liz_graydon via groups.io <liz_graydon@...> wrote:


I haven't updated my version of Ancestral Sources because I am still using version 6 of Family Historian.  Does it still work with version 6 without making any other changes other than adding the 1921 census?



On Wednesday, 2 March 2022, 16:35:04 GMT, David Burgess via groups.io <david.burgess42@...> wrote:


Hi Dave

If you use Ancestral Sources the 1921 Census includes a template for recording these details.  You only need to enter the details once and they are entered into Family Historian for every member of the household.  Ancestral Sources has just been updated to include the 1921 Census.  A wonderful tool.

Regards

David Burgess



dave@...
 

Hi David

No I don't use Ancestral Sources.

The method of entering the data is not the question, I was simply advising people that if they do use a table for such data then they may get unexpected results if they export it to other apps.

How does the data entered by AS export? Does it solve the problem?


David Burgess
 

Hi Dave

I was really making a general point for the benefit of all.

I an not a expert so cannot answer your query as to whether the results export.  I assume that as Ancestral Sources has been developed to integrate data with Family Historian it will export just the same as any other data.  However, that would depend on the other app.  Ancestral Sources exports the data such as in a table as a table or as text and places it the Text Tab of a Citation for a particular census.

I suggest you download Ancestral Sources and give it a try.

David Burgess


The method of entering the data is not the question, I was simply advising people that if they do use a table for such data then they may get unexpected results if they export it to other apps.

How does the data entered by AS export? Does it solve the problem?
-- 
David Burgess


Mike Tate
 

As David says, Ancestral Sources will use whatever FH feature you customise it to use.

That may be rich text tables or plain text, etc…

The ‘Export Gedcom File’ plugin knows what text formatting is supported by the various GEDCOM Destination genealogy products.

So it offers the appropriate text conversion by default, but that can be overridden if desired.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Burgess via groups.io
Sent: 03 March 2022 13:08
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] 1921 Census Children under 16 Table - Exporting

Hi Dave

I was really making a general point for the benefit of all.

I an not a expert so cannot answer your query as to whether the results export.  I assume that as Ancestral Sources has been developed to integrate data with Family Historian it will export just the same as any other data.  However, that would depend on the other app.  Ancestral Sources exports the data such as in a table as a table or as text and places it the Text Tab of a Citation for a particular census.

I suggest you download Ancestral Sources and give it a try.

David Burgess

The method of entering the data is not the question, I was simply advising people that if they do use a table for such data then they may get unexpected results if they export it to other apps.

How does the data entered by AS export? Does it solve the problem?

-- 
David Burgess


liz_graydon
 

On Thursday, 3 March 2022, 08:15:25 GMT, Nick Walker (Ancestral Sources) <nick@...> wrote:


Yes of course Ancestral Sources continues to support earlier versions of Family Historian as it always has. There have been a number of improvements over the last 18 months including bug fixes so you should definitely upgrade.

Best wishes

Nick

Nick Walker
Ancestral Sources Developer

On 02/03/2022 22:35 liz_graydon via groups.io <liz_graydon@...> wrote:


I haven't updated my version of Ancestral Sources because I am still using version 6 of Family Historian.  Does it still work with version 6 without making any other changes other than adding the 1921 census?



On Wednesday, 2 March 2022, 16:35:04 GMT, David Burgess via groups.io <david.burgess42@...> wrote:


Hi Dave

If you use Ancestral Sources the 1921 Census includes a template for recording these details.  You only need to enter the details once and they are entered into Family Historian for every member of the household.  Ancestral Sources has just been updated to include the 1921 Census.  A wonderful tool.

Regards

David Burgess