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Welcome new users!

Simon Orde
 

Welcome!

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Exporting gedcom file

Julia Vokes
 

hello
i’ve recently done a DNA test with Ancestry and want to export part of my family tree to Ancestry to try and find some cousins.  I’ve followed the FH instructions, made a copy, removed all sources and notes, leaving the very bare bones of the tree, but when I try to upload it I get a reply ‘not a valid GEDCOM file’.
can anyone please help me or let me know what I should be doing?
thanks in advance

regards
Julia


Re: Exporting gedcom file

John Hanson
 

Julia

Did you use the “Export Gedcom File” plug-in in the plug-in store?
https://www.family-historian.co.uk/pluginstore/plugin-entry?id=522

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Julia Vokes
Sent: 29 January 2020 12:25
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Exporting gedcom file

 

hello
i’ve recently done a DNA test with Ancestry and want to export part of my family tree to Ancestry to try and find some cousins.  I’ve followed the FH instructions, made a copy, removed all sources and notes, leaving the very bare bones of the tree, but when I try to upload it I get a reply ‘not a valid GEDCOM file’.
can anyone please help me or let me know what I should be doing?
thanks in advance

regards
Julia


Re: Exporting gedcom file

Mike Tate
 

Julia,

John’s advice is essentially correct.

 

The FHUG Knowledge Base has advice in Exporting a Family Tree with/without Media:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:exporting_gedcom_with_multimedia

Especially see under Export to Website Without Sensitive Data that focusses on Ancestry.

 

The FHUG Knowledge Base has advice on the Export Gedcom File Plugin:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=plugins:help:export_gedcom_file:export_gedcom_file

The Ancestry option is explained in:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=plugins:help:export_gedcom_file:anc_ancestry_family_tree

 

The reason you are getting the error is that FH uses the Unicode UTF16 character encoding internally.

That is recognised by most products, so needs to be the UTF8 character encoding.

That is an option in FH but there are also other GEDCOM adjustments that are needed for Ancestry.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Hanson
Sent: 29 January 2020 12:37
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Exporting gedcom file

 

Julia

Did you use the “Export Gedcom File” plug-in in the plug-in store?
https://www.family-historian.co.uk/pluginstore/plugin-entry?id=522

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Julia Vokes
Sent: 29 January 2020 12:25
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Exporting gedcom file

 

hello
i’ve recently done a DNA test with Ancestry and want to export part of my family tree to Ancestry to try and find some cousins.  I’ve followed the FH instructions, made a copy, removed all sources and notes, leaving the very bare bones of the tree, but when I try to upload it I get a reply ‘not a valid GEDCOM file’.
can anyone please help me or let me know what I should be doing?
thanks in advance

regards
Julia


Re: Exporting gedcom file

Mike Tate
 

Sorry, that penultimate paragraph should have said: “That is NOT recognised by most products, …”

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 29 January 2020 13:01
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Exporting gedcom file

 

Julia,

John’s advice is essentially correct.

 

The FHUG Knowledge Base has advice in Exporting a Family Tree with/without Media:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:exporting_gedcom_with_multimedia

Especially see under Export to Website Without Sensitive Data that focusses on Ancestry.

 

The FHUG Knowledge Base has advice on the Export Gedcom File Plugin:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=plugins:help:export_gedcom_file:export_gedcom_file

The Ancestry option is explained in:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=plugins:help:export_gedcom_file:anc_ancestry_family_tree

 

The reason you are getting the error is that FH uses the Unicode UTF16 character encoding internally.

That is recognised by most products, so needs to be the UTF8 character encoding.

That is an option in FH but there are also other GEDCOM adjustments that are needed for Ancestry.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Hanson
Sent: 29 January 2020 12:37
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Exporting gedcom file

 

Julia

Did you use the “Export Gedcom File” plug-in in the plug-in store?
https://www.family-historian.co.uk/pluginstore/plugin-entry?id=522

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Julia Vokes
Sent: 29 January 2020 12:25
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Exporting gedcom file

 

hello
i’ve recently done a DNA test with Ancestry and want to export part of my family tree to Ancestry to try and find some cousins.  I’ve followed the FH instructions, made a copy, removed all sources and notes, leaving the very bare bones of the tree, but when I try to upload it I get a reply ‘not a valid GEDCOM file’.
can anyone please help me or let me know what I should be doing?
thanks in advance

regards
Julia

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Re: Welcome new users!

stephen.challis@...
 

Hi Simon. Many thanks for setting this up. I have been using FH6 since soon after it first came out and can't tell you how much I love the program (I previously used GST and Broderbund). Keep up the good work! Stephen


Re: Exporting gedcom file

Julia Vokes
 

Thank you John and Mike for your help.  I’ve downloaded the plug in, I had been using File/Import Export/Gedcom file previously.  But it’s worked and the edited tree is now on Ancestry!

regards
Julia


Adoptive parents vs Birth parents

larrytd@...
 

One of my wife's cousins has lived his whole life as an adopted person, and is built into my family tree as such (he is now 60 years old). Two years ago he discovered his birth parents and now has a fair bit of info on them, having met them in person.
How can both sets of parents be reflected on my family tree?


Re: Adoptive parents vs Birth parents

Jane Taubman
 

Have you reviewed the Knowledge base article for Adoption


If you want to add both sets of Parents on to a diagram you can simply add a second diagram creating a chart.


On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 09:11, <larrytd@...> wrote:
One of my wife's cousins has lived his whole life as an adopted person, and is built into my family tree as such (he is now 60 years old). Two years ago he discovered his birth parents and now has a fair bit of info on them, having met them in person.
How can both sets of parents be reflected on my family tree?



Family Historian on Linux

Jon
 

Hi
Just wanted to say what a great program! I have been using it for 2 years on and off, and in my opinion is by far the best. I have used Family Tree Maker and TNG software but I always return to this product.
My only gripe is that now I am on a Linux operating system I am unable to use this fantastic program, despite trying to make it work it in WINE. I abandoned Windows products over 6 months ago (I won't go into a protracted missive as to why, plenty of stuff out there to back up my reasons). It would be nice if perhaps in the future, someone (or the developer) may offer an option to make this work in the Linux operating system. Until then, I am using my backup web based Tribalpages option. IF there is a way now to make this superb program work within Linux, perhaps some kind folk can offer a solution. Many thanks.


Re: Family Historian on Linux

mchance@...
 

Hi Jon

I have an Apple mac and have been using Crossover (which uses Wine) for a number of years with great success. I've found it very easy to install and use and FH works extremely well on it.

Michael


Re: Family Historian on Linux

uhkh3tsccmz9@beconfidential.com
 

I have successfully been running 99.?%? of fh functionality on Linux for almost two and a half years (specifically Lubuntu 16.04 and then 18.04 with Wine 4.0.3 - emulating Windows 7) Wine 5.0 has recently become available.

I installed Wine through the Software repository and then downloaded the FH instal program into the download directory of my "wine C drive". Then I seem to remember that I ran the install program by right clicking on the file and selecting "Open With > Wine Windows Program Loader". In genealogical terms I got Bob as my mother's brother!

I then tweaked things to get the Menu option that I wanted copying the set up for another program that installed with Wine (possibly notepad or even the default FH menu option which was deep in the Wine Menu system off the Start Button - I cannot now recall, but it was a minimal hassle tweak) and moved directories around to get them where I wanted them (using simlinks/shortcuts to maintain things the same as far as the program was concerned)

The FH supplied pdf driver does not work under Wine but other options are available under Linux. Other than that I am not aware of any FH problems

Some dialogue boxes can be a touch messy because the fonts on the buttons are a bit too big for the text to fit. Expanding the Dialogue box often cures this and if I fiddled with the Wine Configuration (for me; Start Menu>q4wine>Default>system>winecfg) I might improve it further.

David


Re: Family Historian on Linux

Jon
 

Thank you David, I will explore your scenario further. I really want to go back to using FH.
Cheers.
Jon


Re: Exporting gedcom file

Brian Darracott
 

Hello,
I'm a little puzzled by this.  I have uploaded several small Gedcom trees to Ancestry DNA, but I've never (knowingly!) installed any plug-ins.  My version of FH is 6.2.7 - which i think is the most recent - and under the Export Gedcom file menu it seems to only offer UFH-8.  I recall just following the Ancestry (and FamilyTreeDNA, for that ,matter) instructions and after a false start resulting from not omitting the media. all went very well.

Cheers,
Brian


Re: Family Historian on Linux

Mike Tate
 

Jon, There is a lot of advice and Linux FH users on the FHUG website.

 

The FHUG Knowledge Base has Family Historian V6 & Ancestral Sources V5 on Crossover, PlayOnLinux/Mac & Wine:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:family_historian_v6_on_crossover_wine

 

Ask in the https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/ and you will get plenty of detailed advice from those that have gone before.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jon
Sent: 30 January 2020 14:03
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Family Historian on Linux

 

Thank you David, I will explore your scenario further. I really want to go back to using FH.
Cheers.
Jon


Re: Exporting gedcom file

Mike Tate
 

Hi Brian,

Yes, if your trees are uncomplicated and you only want to use Ancestry DNA then File > Import/Export > Export > GEDCOM File will often be OK.

As you say, you must remember to choose UTF-8 and omit all the Media.

 

But there are many features of FH that are not supported by Ancestry.

e.g. Custom Attributes, the Age and Address fields, Fact Witnesses, Place records, etc.

Also to enable Census matching, Ancestry prefers Residence facts to Census events.

The Export Gedcom File Plugin has an Ancestry setting that handles all that and more, as well as the UTF-8 and exclude Media modes.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian D
Sent: 30 January 2020 13:52
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Exporting gedcom file

 

Hello,
I'm a little puzzled by this.  I have uploaded several small Gedcom trees to Ancestry DNA, but I've never (knowingly!) installed any plug-ins.  My version of FH is 6.2.7 - which i think is the most recent - and under the Export Gedcom file menu it seems to only offer UFH-8.  I recall just following the Ancestry (and FamilyTreeDNA, for that ,matter) instructions and after a false start resulting from not omitting the media. all went very well.

Cheers,
Brian


Re: Exporting gedcom file

Brian Darracott
 

Thanks, Mike.  Although my uploads to Ancestry  etc are pretty basic and purely to enable any DNA matches to get some idea of who's who, I think I'll get the plug-in and be on the safe side.

Thanks 
Brian


Re: Family Historian on Linux

Jon
 

Thanks Mike, I shall take a look at this.
Regards
Jon


Ancestral Sources

JulieSpav <juliepslade@...>
 

Hi everyone,

I'm using Ancestral Sources to enter Census entries to FH. Can someone tell me where the "Text" element transfers to in FH as I can't see it?

Its probably really simple once you know!

Many thanks

Julie


Re: Ancestral Sources

Mike Tate
 

Hi Julie,

It depends on whether your have set Ancestral Sources to use Method 1 (the default) or Method 2.

But assuming Method 1 then that Auto Text is added to the Source record Text From Source field.

It should be edited to be an accurate transcript of the Source document, as Ancestral Sources only attempts a machine generated similarity.

 

See the FHUG Ancestral Sources Tutorials that explain the process in much more detail:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=ancestralsources:index

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of JulieSpav via Groups.Io
Sent: 01 February 2020 19:40
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Ancestral Sources

 

Hi everyone,

I'm using Ancestral Sources to enter Census entries to FH. Can someone tell me where the "Text" element transfers to in FH as I can't see it?

Its probably really simple once you know!

Many thanks

Julie

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