Date   

Debug Log Entries

David Potter
 

Evening All

 

Can anyone please throw some light as to the entries in the FH7 log file? I get an occasional error where the backup can’t continue because of this file or maybe the entries within it.

 

I have attached the log file. And a screen shot of the error.

 

Thank you.

 

Kind Regards

 

David Charles Potter

 


Find Census Age Issues

David Potter
 

Hi All. Hoping you had a merry Christmas.

 

Can anyone suggest how best to find Census Age errors. After correcting the Birth year based on an incorrect Census Calculated birth year (basically I had transcribed the Census Age incorrectly), I overlooked to correct the corresponding Census age. Is there a way to locate these types of error. See Image.

 

Thank You

Happy New Year.

 

Kind Regards

 

David Charles Potter

 


Installing on new computer

Yasmin Gibbins
 

Good Afternoon

I am hoping someone can help me. I have brought a new computer and cannot seem to install Family Historian. I have all the discs back to version 2.1.6 and the upgrade discs to version 4 and also the upgrade key for version 5. I only use up to version 5.

I thought I had to start at version 2.1.6 and install them all upgrading as I went however when I put the first disc in I get the following message. Can anyone advise me if there is a work round for this or do I need to purchase a complete new program.

Due to circumstances I haven’t looked at my Family History for a couple of years but following my mothers death this year I decided to start researching again.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Yasmin

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Upgrading to FH7 - licence key

Lorna Craig
 

The paragraph at the top of that page says:

“if version 6 is installed and still works, you should be able to retrieve the version 6 licence key. Once you have upgraded that version, however, you will no longer be able to retrieve the version 6 licence key.”

 

If you have already downloaded the free trial version that will have upgraded your V6 version, so you won’t be able to retrieve the V6 key.  The key would have been in the email you received when you purchased V6 (if you bought it as a download). If you can’t find it you can try contacting Calico Pie via support@... telling them when you purchased V6 and make sure you use the same email address which you used at the time of purchase.   They are probably having a few days’ break at the moment so you may have to wait for a reply.

 

From: Deirdre Leigh
Sent: 26 December 2020 12:52
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Upgrading to FH7 - licence key

 

Hi, I've followed the instructions online Lost Licence Key – Family Historian 7 (family-historian.co.uk) and on the FHUG group to get my licence key from FH6 but I'm not getting the INFO box pop-up. Is this because I've downloaded the FH7 trial (I get the message about it being a trial and when it ends or buy now) but if i press ok it just takes me to open a project. 

 

I have created an account so have a username and password. 

 

Any ideas?  Thanks. 

 

Deirdre

 

 


Re: Local Note truncated in query

dave@...
 

Many thanks Mike.
I'll log it with Calico Pie in the  morning.


Re: Local Note truncated in query

Mike Tate
 

Yes, in FH V6 it showed approximately the first 150 characters in a Note and terminated it with ellipsis … if longer.

FH V7 has radically changed and only shows the first sentence or first line and a maximum of about 70 characters.

With multiline text like yours, there is no simple workaround.

It was suggested to Calico Pie that it was a backward step and that there should be a function to force all (or at least more) text to be displayed.

 

The only unsuitable solution is the one in the FHUG KB ‘Display long text such as Notes’:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/display-long-text-such-as-notes/

e.g.

=Text( GetParagraph(%INDI.NOTE2%,1) . " " . GetParagraph(%INDI.NOTE2%,2) . " " . GetParagraph(%INDI.NOTE2%,3) )

 

But you would need to continue up to GetParagraph(%INDI.NOTE2%,7)

 

You could complain to Calico Pie with a http://www.calico-pie.com/osticket/open.php support ticket.

 

Happy New Year, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of dave@...
Sent: 28 December 2020 16:17
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Local Note truncated in query

 

In v6 I had a query which returned an individual and their 1st Local Note  - %INDI.NOTE2[1]%
It concatenated all of the lines in the note.
e.g.

MARGARET SIBBALD

 

ADDRESSES:

Cavers, Roxburghshire, Scotland (03 April 1881)

 

OCCUPATIONS:

Mason (Hewer) 



would display as:-
MARGARET SIBBALD  ADDRESSES: Cavers, Roxburghshire, Scotland (03 April 1881) OCCUPATIONS: Mason (Hewer) 

However in v7 it only displays the first line:-
MARGARET SIBBALD 

I'm assuming that this is something to do with the change to using word processing.
Does anyone know if there is there a workaround

Dave


Re: All relatives diagram

Lorna Craig
 

I agree it's odd that if you want to select someone's second marriage as the root you have to browse for it, rather than having it offered automatically as one of the options.  

For the quickest way in the Focus window, instead of selecting Alfie click on the bar below his second partnership, where it says Married: followed by date and place (if you have the marriage date and place recorded).  This selects the appropriate family record, which is automatically displayed in the 'Select Root for ... Diagram' box.    Alternatively use the Records window Families tab to select the appropriate family record.

By the way, V7 has introduced this extra step when creating a diagram, by displaying the 'Select Root for ... Diagram' window.   But if you don't want it you can turn off this extra stage by using Tools>Preferences>Diagrams and ticking Enable One-Click Diagram Display from Toolbar.   This then gets you back to the way things worked in V6, so you can use whatever method you used in V6.

Lorna

On 28/12/2020 16:32, Robert Jordan wrote:

There does seem to be something odd ( I will put it no stronger than that) about the new way one sets up a diagram.

The situation is this

Alfie Acre is married twice. His first wife is Betty Boo and his second wife is Candy Crush.

Now I wish to see an all relatives diagram of Alfie and Candy. In the records window I highlight Alfie and the all relatives icon and the choose couple. The only options are to choose Alfie and Betty or to browse for another. There is no option to choose Alfie and Cindy. If I click on browse I get a list of it seems like every record in my tree. The same thing happens if I work from the Focus window which shows Alfie twice once with Betty and once with Candy even if I highlight Alfie next to Candy the same thing happens.

I know there is a work around to highlight Alfie and Candy on the diagram and then request a new diagram and if one has set the workspace preference for diagrams appropriately FH will display both diagrams.

This does seem a long winded way to do what should be a relatively simple task.

Robert Jordan

 


Re: All relatives diagram

Robert Jordan
 

Trevor
exactly the same thing happens using your suggestions!

Robert Jordan

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Re: All relatives diagram

Trevor Rix
 

I recommend that you use the Ancestor And Descendant Diagram rather than the All Relatives Diagram.


All relatives diagram

Robert Jordan
 

There does seem to be something odd ( I will put it no stronger than that) about the new way one sets up a diagram.

The situation is this

Alfie Acre is married twice. His first wife is Betty Boo and his second wife is Candy Crush.

Now I wish to see an all relatives diagram of Alfie and Candy. In the records window I highlight Alfie and the all relatives icon and the choose couple. The only options are to choose Alfie and Betty or to browse for another. There is no option to choose Alfie and Cindy. If I click on browse I get a list of it seems like every record in my tree. The same thing happens if I work from the Focus window which shows Alfie twice once with Betty and once with Candy even if I highlight Alfie next to Candy the same thing happens.

I know there is a work around to highlight Alfie and Candy on the diagram and then request a new diagram and if one has set the workspace preference for diagrams appropriately FH will display both diagrams.

This does seem a long winded way to do what should be a relatively simple task.

Robert Jordan

 


Local Note truncated in query

dave@...
 

In v6 I had a query which returned an individual and their 1st Local Note  - %INDI.NOTE2[1]%
It concatenated all of the lines in the note.
e.g.
MARGARET SIBBALD
 
ADDRESSES:
Cavers, Roxburghshire, Scotland (03 April 1881)
 
OCCUPATIONS:
Mason (Hewer) 


would display as:-
MARGARET SIBBALD  ADDRESSES: Cavers, Roxburghshire, Scotland (03 April 1881) OCCUPATIONS: Mason (Hewer) 

However in v7 it only displays the first line:-
MARGARET SIBBALD 

I'm assuming that this is something to do with the change to using word processing.
Does anyone know if there is there a workaround

Dave


Re: Using a reference to an individual in a query

dave@...
 

Brilliant Mike.

Many thanks


Re: Google Drive

Mike Tate
 

Yes, that is eminently sensible and what I was heading towards advising you should do.

 

Do you customise your Tools > Preferences settings or Diagrams, Reports, Queries, Plugins, Facts Sets, Records Window Columns, Property Box tabs, etc?

If so, then you should preserve them with the Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings plugin and save that backup to Google Drive.

 

Happy New Year, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Geoffrey Knott
Sent: 28 December 2020 15:10
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Google Drive

 

Thanks, Mike, for your help and warning. We've now got a system up and running that's a slight change from our original plan. Since I'm retired and have more time than my son for research, I do all the recording in Family Historian, which I back up frequently to Google Drive (as well as to my two external hard drives). He can then download the latest zipped backup file and unzip it into his Family Historian; and if he finds anything that needs adding or amending, he can email details to me for inputting.

Best regards,

Geoff

On 27/12/2020 10:26, Mike Tate wrote:

When you set up Google Drive it should create a Google Drive folder which by default exists in your Documents folder in exactly the same way as OneDrive and Dropbox.

That …\Documents\Google Drive\ folder is a normal folder in Windows File Explorer.

It sounds like you have uploaded your Project to the Google Drive cloud store but not installed the Google Drive app on your PC which creates the Google Drive folder.

See the FHUG Knowledge Base Synchronising Family Historian between 2 PCs:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/synchronisation-of-fh-configuration-and-data/

The Google Drive section describes the process.

 

Both you and your son will have to use the same Google Drive account.

However, as Neil says, you must ensure that only one of you runs FH on that Project at the same time.

 

You must consider how to manage your Projects.

Usually, the File > Project Window > Location would be changed to refer to:

…\Documents\Google Drive\Family Historian Projects

So ALL your Projects would exist in Google Drive.

Similarly, your son would do the same.

So you would both have access to ALL of each other's Projects.

I suspect that is not going to be acceptable bearing in mind the restriction of not running FH on the same Project at the same time.

 

So, you would both probably need to keep your Project Location where it is now.

Then copy the Project to and from Google Drive as required.

That would also avoid the problem of FH running at the same time.

However, you would need to manage which of you updates the Project, but you must be handling that already when exchanging memory cards.

 

If anything is still not clear then do ask again.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Geoffrey Knott
Sent: 27 December 2020 07:07
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Google Drive

 

Hi all,

Having seen recent threads about accessing a FH Project via two computers (whether both are owned by one person, or each by two collaborating individuals), I decided to try and share my main project with my son in this way, which would be more convenient that swapping copies via memory cards as we live some 70 miles apart. We each have our own computer and each have our own copy of Family Historian V7. I decided against Onedrive and Dropbox - the two cloud storage systems mentioned in the threads - because of the limits on free storage (I didn't want to pay for extra cloud storage without being sure that the idea would work), and instead went for Google Drive, which allows sufficient space for my 5gb main project.

I successfully uploaded all the files in the project folder, and I know they are there because I can see them via both my laptop and my mobile phone. I gave Drive my son's email address as a person to have access, and sent him the message via Drive to tell him that, and he tells me that he received the message.

The problem is that neither he nor I can access the uploaded project. I can't get it to show in my projects list: that only shows the projects (including the same one) stored on my computer. And I can't find a path via File Explorer to Google Drive, which I can only access via my Google account, and which does not seem to support the use of FH.

Can anybody please advise. Have I missed a step somewhere, or is the whole idea unworkable and misconceived on my part?

Thanks in advance.

Geoff


Re: Google Drive

Geoffrey Knott
 

Thanks, Mike, for your help and warning. We've now got a system up and running that's a slight change from our original plan. Since I'm retired and have more time than my son for research, I do all the recording in Family Historian, which I back up frequently to Google Drive (as well as to my two external hard drives). He can then download the latest zipped backup file and unzip it into his Family Historian; and if he finds anything that needs adding or amending, he can email details to me for inputting.

Best regards,

Geoff

On 27/12/2020 10:26, Mike Tate wrote:

When you set up Google Drive it should create a Google Drive folder which by default exists in your Documents folder in exactly the same way as OneDrive and Dropbox.

That …\Documents\Google Drive\ folder is a normal folder in Windows File Explorer.

It sounds like you have uploaded your Project to the Google Drive cloud store but not installed the Google Drive app on your PC which creates the Google Drive folder.

See the FHUG Knowledge Base Synchronising Family Historian between 2 PCs:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/synchronisation-of-fh-configuration-and-data/

The Google Drive section describes the process.

 

Both you and your son will have to use the same Google Drive account.

However, as Neil says, you must ensure that only one of you runs FH on that Project at the same time.

 

You must consider how to manage your Projects.

Usually, the File > Project Window > Location would be changed to refer to:

…\Documents\Google Drive\Family Historian Projects

So ALL your Projects would exist in Google Drive.

Similarly, your son would do the same.

So you would both have access to ALL of each other's Projects.

I suspect that is not going to be acceptable bearing in mind the restriction of not running FH on the same Project at the same time.

 

So, you would both probably need to keep your Project Location where it is now.

Then copy the Project to and from Google Drive as required.

That would also avoid the problem of FH running at the same time.

However, you would need to manage which of you updates the Project, but you must be handling that already when exchanging memory cards.

 

If anything is still not clear then do ask again.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Geoffrey Knott
Sent: 27 December 2020 07:07
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Google Drive

 

Hi all,

Having seen recent threads about accessing a FH Project via two computers (whether both are owned by one person, or each by two collaborating individuals), I decided to try and share my main project with my son in this way, which would be more convenient that swapping copies via memory cards as we live some 70 miles apart. We each have our own computer and each have our own copy of Family Historian V7. I decided against Onedrive and Dropbox - the two cloud storage systems mentioned in the threads - because of the limits on free storage (I didn't want to pay for extra cloud storage without being sure that the idea would work), and instead went for Google Drive, which allows sufficient space for my 5gb main project.

I successfully uploaded all the files in the project folder, and I know they are there because I can see them via both my laptop and my mobile phone. I gave Drive my son's email address as a person to have access, and sent him the message via Drive to tell him that, and he tells me that he received the message.

The problem is that neither he nor I can access the uploaded project. I can't get it to show in my projects list: that only shows the projects (including the same one) stored on my computer. And I can't find a path via File Explorer to Google Drive, which I can only access via my Google account, and which does not seem to support the use of FH.

Can anybody please advise. Have I missed a step somewhere, or is the whole idea unworkable and misconceived on my part?

Thanks in advance.

Geoff


Re: Google Drive

Geoffrey Knott
 

Thanks, Neil, for your help and warning. We've now got a system up and running that's a slight change from our original plan. Since I'm retired and have more time than my son for research, I do all the recording in Family Historian, which I back up frequently to Google Drive (as well as to my two external hard drives). He can then download the latest zipped backup file and unzip it into his Family Historian; and if he finds anything that needs adding or amending, he can email details to me for inputting.

Best regards,

Geoff

On 27/12/2020 09:29, Neil Grantham via groups.io wrote:

Geoff

I think by default Google drive doesn’t show in Windows File Explorer like OneDrive and Dropbox which could be why FH project explorer doesn’t find it.
See this Google article on how to add it. Not sure if it will fix your issue though.

https://support.google.com/drive/thread/12144806?hl=en

I would be VERY wary of two people sharing a project. You have to be 100% sure only one person accessed it at a time.

Best Wishes
Neil

Sent via BT Email App


From: Geoffrey Knott
Sent: Dec 27, 2020 at 7:07 AM
Tofamily-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Google Drive

Hi all,

Having seen recent threads about accessing a FH Project via two computers (whether both are owned by one person, or each by two collaborating individuals), I decided to try and share my main project with my son in this way, which would be more convenient that swapping copies via memory cards as we live some 70 miles apart. We each have our own computer and each have our own copy of Family Historian V7. I decided against Onedrive and Dropbox - the two cloud storage systems mentioned in the threads - because of the limits on free storage (I didn't want to pay for extra cloud storage without being sure that the idea would work), and instead went for Google Drive, which allows sufficient space for my 5gb main project.

I successfully uploaded all the files in the project folder, and I know they are there because I can see them via both my laptop and my mobile phone. I gave Drive my son's email address as a person to have access, and sent him the message via Drive to tell him that, and he tells me that he received the message.

The problem is that neither he nor I can access the uploaded project. I can't get it to show in my projects list: that only shows the projects (including the same one) stored on my computer. And I can't find a path via File Explorer to Google Drive, which I can only access via my Google account, and which does not seem to support the use of FH.

Can anybody please advise. Have I missed a step somewhere, or is the whole idea unworkable and misconceived on my part?

Thanks in advance.

Geoff



--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Re: Using a reference to an individual in a query

Mike Tate
 

Yes, use the Record( 345, "I" ) function which here is Individual with Rec Id 345.

 

=Relationship( Record( 123, "I" ), %INDI%, TEXT, 1 )

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of dave@...
Sent: 28 December 2020 12:40
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Using a reference to an individual in a query

 

I use a query as the source for Column Configuration in the Records List

 

What I would like to do is add a column which returns the relationship of one individual to another (but not File Root).

 

=Relationship(["Individual"],%INDI%,TEXT,1)

 

The question is, can I specify a fixed individual rather than the prompt "Individual"?

 

Many thanks

Dave


Using a reference to an individual in a query

dave@...
 

I use a query as the source for Column Configuration in the Records List
 
What I would like to do is add a column which returns the relationship of one individual to another (but not File Root).
 
=Relationship(["Individual"],%INDI%,TEXT,1)
 
The question is, can I specify a fixed individual rather than the prompt "Individual"?
 
Many thanks

Dave


Re: Google Drive

Mike Tate
 

When you set up Google Drive it should create a Google Drive folder which by default exists in your Documents folder in exactly the same way as OneDrive and Dropbox.

That …\Documents\Google Drive\ folder is a normal folder in Windows File Explorer.

It sounds like you have uploaded your Project to the Google Drive cloud store but not installed the Google Drive app on your PC which creates the Google Drive folder.

See the FHUG Knowledge Base Synchronising Family Historian between 2 PCs:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/synchronisation-of-fh-configuration-and-data/

The Google Drive section describes the process.

 

Both you and your son will have to use the same Google Drive account.

However, as Neil says, you must ensure that only one of you runs FH on that Project at the same time.

 

You must consider how to manage your Projects.

Usually, the File > Project Window > Location would be changed to refer to:

…\Documents\Google Drive\Family Historian Projects

So ALL your Projects would exist in Google Drive.

Similarly, your son would do the same.

So you would both have access to ALL of each other's Projects.

I suspect that is not going to be acceptable bearing in mind the restriction of not running FH on the same Project at the same time.

 

So, you would both probably need to keep your Project Location where it is now.

Then copy the Project to and from Google Drive as required.

That would also avoid the problem of FH running at the same time.

However, you would need to manage which of you updates the Project, but you must be handling that already when exchanging memory cards.

 

If anything is still not clear then do ask again.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Geoffrey Knott
Sent: 27 December 2020 07:07
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Google Drive

 

Hi all,

Having seen recent threads about accessing a FH Project via two computers (whether both are owned by one person, or each by two collaborating individuals), I decided to try and share my main project with my son in this way, which would be more convenient that swapping copies via memory cards as we live some 70 miles apart. We each have our own computer and each have our own copy of Family Historian V7. I decided against Onedrive and Dropbox - the two cloud storage systems mentioned in the threads - because of the limits on free storage (I didn't want to pay for extra cloud storage without being sure that the idea would work), and instead went for Google Drive, which allows sufficient space for my 5gb main project.

I successfully uploaded all the files in the project folder, and I know they are there because I can see them via both my laptop and my mobile phone. I gave Drive my son's email address as a person to have access, and sent him the message via Drive to tell him that, and he tells me that he received the message.

The problem is that neither he nor I can access the uploaded project. I can't get it to show in my projects list: that only shows the projects (including the same one) stored on my computer. And I can't find a path via File Explorer to Google Drive, which I can only access via my Google account, and which does not seem to support the use of FH.

Can anybody please advise. Have I missed a step somewhere, or is the whole idea unworkable and misconceived on my part?

Thanks in advance.

Geoff


Re: Google Drive

Neil Grantham
 

Geoff

I think by default Google drive doesn’t show in Windows File Explorer like OneDrive and Dropbox which could be why FH project explorer doesn’t find it.
See this Google article on how to add it. Not sure if it will fix your issue though.

https://support.google.com/drive/thread/12144806?hl=en

I would be VERY wary of two people sharing a project. You have to be 100% sure only one person accessed it at a time.

Best Wishes
Neil

Sent via BT Email App


From: Geoffrey Knott
Sent: Dec 27, 2020 at 7:07 AM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Google Drive

Hi all,

Having seen recent threads about accessing a FH Project via two computers (whether both are owned by one person, or each by two collaborating individuals), I decided to try and share my main project with my son in this way, which would be more convenient that swapping copies via memory cards as we live some 70 miles apart. We each have our own computer and each have our own copy of Family Historian V7. I decided against Onedrive and Dropbox - the two cloud storage systems mentioned in the threads - because of the limits on free storage (I didn't want to pay for extra cloud storage without being sure that the idea would work), and instead went for Google Drive, which allows sufficient space for my 5gb main project.

I successfully uploaded all the files in the project folder, and I know they are there because I can see them via both my laptop and my mobile phone. I gave Drive my son's email address as a person to have access, and sent him the message via Drive to tell him that, and he tells me that he received the message.

The problem is that neither he nor I can access the uploaded project. I can't get it to show in my projects list: that only shows the projects (including the same one) stored on my computer. And I can't find a path via File Explorer to Google Drive, which I can only access via my Google account, and which does not seem to support the use of FH.

Can anybody please advise. Have I missed a step somewhere, or is the whole idea unworkable and misconceived on my part?

Thanks in advance.

Geoff



--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Google Drive

Geoffrey Knott
 

Hi all,

Having seen recent threads about accessing a FH Project via two computers (whether both are owned by one person, or each by two collaborating individuals), I decided to try and share my main project with my son in this way, which would be more convenient that swapping copies via memory cards as we live some 70 miles apart. We each have our own computer and each have our own copy of Family Historian V7. I decided against Onedrive and Dropbox - the two cloud storage systems mentioned in the threads - because of the limits on free storage (I didn't want to pay for extra cloud storage without being sure that the idea would work), and instead went for Google Drive, which allows sufficient space for my 5gb main project.

I successfully uploaded all the files in the project folder, and I know they are there because I can see them via both my laptop and my mobile phone. I gave Drive my son's email address as a person to have access, and sent him the message via Drive to tell him that, and he tells me that he received the message.

The problem is that neither he nor I can access the uploaded project. I can't get it to show in my projects list: that only shows the projects (including the same one) stored on my computer. And I can't find a path via File Explorer to Google Drive, which I can only access via my Google account, and which does not seem to support the use of FH.

Can anybody please advise. Have I missed a step somewhere, or is the whole idea unworkable and misconceived on my part?

Thanks in advance.

Geoff

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