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Re: lost photos/media

Mike Tate
 

James, are you getting my replies that ask several questions?

Could you please, please, answer as many as possible.

 

In your screenshot, there is a large blue arrow on the right.

Please click that and tell me what it says in the File: box.

Does the photo get shown in the pane below?

 

That message in your screenshot Unable to load object has come up before in the FHUG Forums.

The solution there that sometimes worked is as follows.

 

In FH open Tools > Preferences > General tab, click Advanced... button at bottom, and set Thumbnail Images: to Load When Needed.

 

In the following description replace <project> with your Project Name.

Use Windows File Explorer to navigate to the following folder.

…\Documents\Family Historian Projects\<project>\<project>.fh_data\Cache\

There delete the ThumbCache.dat file

 

Does that fix the problem?

 


Re: lost photos/media

james o'kelly
 

here is an example of photos that disappear, Geoff Milnthorpe shown in media box but the photo has gone


On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 3:52 PM james o'kelly <shaymoandann@...> wrote:
this is the process I go through when adding a photo to my tree
1 go to media
2 insert from file
3 find photo
4 copy file to default location within project folder
5 add
6 click OK
is this the proper way of adding and saving? as I have done this several times and they later disappear, but they are still listed in the media box 

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:30 PM Lorna Craig via groups.io <l.m.craig=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

James, You originally asked this on 26 June and received a reply from Mike Tate that day.  You answered his message briefly on 27 June and then received several more replies on 27 and 28 June.  Please refer back to those messages.   (If you can't find them easily among your emails you can log onto the group's web page and find the topic there.)

On 08/07/2020 20:44, james o'kelly wrote:
I have asked this question before, I have just revisited one of my family trees, to find the photos have gone missing although they are listed in the media box, why? is this 
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Re: lost photos/media

Mike Tate
 

Yes, your process is the recommended way of adding and saving.

So we need to investigate further to discover why they seem to be disappearing.

 

Remember there are two components to each Media item:

  1. Media record within the GEDCOM file
  2. Media file saved within the Media folder

The Media record is what you see listed and has a link to the Media file to display the photo.

If for any reason the Media file is unavailable then the Media record cannot display it.

 

Please tell us where your Projects are saved.

Do they exist in your \Documents\Family Historian Projects\ folder?

Are they saved in cloud storage such as OneDrive, Google Drive, or Dropbox?

 

Please describe step by step (as you did with adding media) how you try to display those photos and exactly what is displayed.

e.g. Does it say File not found or display a box with a diagonal cross?

 

Try opening those missing photos in the Media tab of the Property Box where you added them.

 

Try using the Media Window to show all your Media records and their linked Media files.

 

Try using the Tools > External File Links command and look for X marks on the file icons.

 

 


Re: lost photos/media

james o'kelly
 

this is the process I go through when adding a photo to my tree
1 go to media
2 insert from file
3 find photo
4 copy file to default location within project folder
5 add
6 click OK
is this the proper way of adding and saving? as I have done this several times and they later disappear, but they are still listed in the media box 

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:30 PM Lorna Craig via groups.io <l.m.craig=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

James, You originally asked this on 26 June and received a reply from Mike Tate that day.  You answered his message briefly on 27 June and then received several more replies on 27 and 28 June.  Please refer back to those messages.   (If you can't find them easily among your emails you can log onto the group's web page and find the topic there.)

On 08/07/2020 20:44, james o'kelly wrote:
I have asked this question before, I have just revisited one of my family trees, to find the photos have gone missing although they are listed in the media box, why? is this 
_


Re: lost photos/media

Lorna Craig
 

James, You originally asked this on 26 June and received a reply from Mike Tate that day.  You answered his message briefly on 27 June and then received several more replies on 27 and 28 June.  Please refer back to those messages.   (If you can't find them easily among your emails you can log onto the group's web page and find the topic there.)

On 08/07/2020 20:44, james o'kelly wrote:
I have asked this question before, I have just revisited one of my family trees, to find the photos have gone missing although they are listed in the media box, why? is this 
_


Re: lost photos/media

Mike Tate
 

When you asked before there were several suggestions but you did not respond.

 

See https://groups.io/g/family-historian/topic/75133066#898 and ensure all replies are expanded.

 

Please provide all the information requested, so we can help you explain where they have gone.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of james o'kelly
Sent: 08 July 2020 20:45
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] lost photos/media

 

I have asked this question before, I have just revisited one of my family trees, to find the photos have gone missing although they are listed in the media box, why? is this 


lost photos/media

james o'kelly
 

I have asked this question before, I have just revisited one of my family trees, to find the photos have gone missing although they are listed in the media box, why? is this 


Re: File attachments and Images on this list

Victor Markham
 

When I am on Firefox on any tab and anywhere on the screen I just do a right click and a menu opens. I did not download anything it just appeared when I did a right click any where on the screen.

If it didn't happen to others then maybe you haven't got the latest Firefox.

I haven't checked the three dots in the search bar until you mentioned it and 'Take a Screen shot' is there. I have checked this on the FHUG tab and it works on there in fact it works on any tab on Firefox

Victor

On 08/07/2020 5:31 pm, Randy Dykhuis wrote:
Victor is probably using Firefox, which has a screen saver tool built into the browser. You can get to it via the context menu with a right-click or by clicking the 3 dots in the search bar at the top of the screen. I do not think this exists in Chrome or Edge.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 4:06 PM Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Victor, where exactly do you right-click, because that usually is a context menu that changes depending on what you click on.

It may be that your PC supplier has installed some snipping application or customised the right-click menu, but that is not standard default Windows 10 behaviour.

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham
Sent: 06 July 2020 20:51
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] File attachments and Images on this list

 

I have never used the snip tool mentioned. I just do a right click and a menu opens. At the bottom of the list it says 'take a screen shot' I mark the area I want to take then prompt copy and open it up in my photo software where I can make any adjustment I want

I am using Windows 10

Victor

On 06/07/2020 3:20 pm, Neil Grantham via groups.io wrote:

Yes, there is a new one with Windows 10 that you are offered when opening Snipping Tool

In Windows 10, a handy quick way of getting a screen grab with Snip and Sketch is to press Windows+Shift+S simultaneously (Windows key is the one between Ctrl and Alt to the left of the space bar) - you can then draw around your snip area you want to capture. This is copied to the clipboard - you are notified of this - and you can paste the clip to any application using Ctrl+V (or Edit>Paste)

Windows, Shift and S are handily close together and can be done with one hand.

By default just drag a square, but there are other options to create a freeform shape or grab a window or full screen - see the small menu that opens at the top of the screen.

 

Best Wishes,

Neil

 

 

On Monday, 6 July 2020, 15:11:53 BST, Derek Kain <genealogist15@...> wrote:

 

 

Neil and Trevor,

Thank you very much for that. I now remember coming across it a few years ago. But never used it.

Just found out a new Snip & Sketch is available.

Derek

 

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 14:52, Neil Grantham via groups.io <neil40=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Derek

 

If you are on Windows 7 or above Snipping Tool is part of the standard Windows operating system.

If you click on the Start button and start typing snip you will see the Tool offered as something you can click on.

Alternately, look in the Program folder 'Windows Accessories'

 

Best Wishes,

Neil

 

 

On Monday, 6 July 2020, 14:34:48 BST, Derek Kain <genealogist15@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello Ros,

Apologies for my ignorance. I couldn't find a program on my computer at the time to convert a screen dump that had to be cropped due to duel screens to jpg files. Will find Snipping tool and download it.

Derek 

 

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 14:22, Ros <ros@...> wrote:

Please be aware EVERY message which has an image or other attachment has to be manually approved. 

This makes for work for the list moderators.

So please:

1. Only attach files if essential
2. When replying to a message which had an image in it remember to remove the repeated image.  Ideally you should never include the full contents of the thread on any reply to the list.
3. If using an Antivirus which adds a picture to every email change the settings so it does not
4. Attachments not in jpg format will be removed (if you want to include a screen shot please use the Snipping tool to grab a jpg images, do not attach Word processing format files).


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Re: File attachments and Images on this list

Robert
 

Thank you Brian, I’ve never really looked into using the shortcuts. There’s a few others I could use to speed up my workflow as well.

Cheers,

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 16:13, Brian Horridge via groups.io <brian.horridge@...> wrote:

Robert

You can just use PC function key F12 as well.

Brian

On 08/07/2020 15:15, Robert via groups.io wrote:
> I also been using Irfanview since time began, and can’t believe it’s
> still free. One tip, which took me a while to find, was in the edit
> menu, “Show Paint dialogue” where you have access to the
> Straighten/rotate tool, which I use all the time on my marriage entry
> slips.
>
> Robert
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
>
> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 13:06, claverterry <terencedicker@...>
> wrote:
>
>    I'm pretty good at keeping up with possible tools (who many do I
>    load,
>    then discard almost immediately! But not Irfanview...what a wonderful
>    freebie). But Thank You for this. I had missed this upgrade to
>    Firefox,
>    having used an add-on until now. This is a real 'find'. Many thanks.
>
>    Terry
>
>    ps from a previous thread. I tried to use Evidentia, but for me it
>    was
>    more effort than it was worth. I just use a spreadsheet...but the
>    process of asking a research question, then thoroughly justifying the
>    answer is very rewarding (ref. Genealogical Proof Standard).
>
>
>
>
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Re: Records Window

Bob Brown
 

Betty and Mike.  Very many thanks for your responses.  This gives me the information that I was looking for.

 

Bob

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Betty Downing
Sent: 8 July 2020 10:36
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Records Window

 

I have added a column I call Spouse Name and the expression that drives it is

 

INDI.~SPOU[1]>NAME[1]:SURNAME_FIRST

 

Hope this is useful,

 

Betty Downing

 

 

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On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 10:26, Bob Brown <r-j-brown@...> wrote:

In the Records Window, is it possible to add a column for Husband’s Surname.  This would help where I have several Marys, Elizabeths, etc. whose surnames I do not know.

 

Bob Brown


Re: Records Window

Sue Herrington
 

Thanks Mike, I’d forgotten about that box

 

Sue

 

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From: Mike Tate
Sent: 08 July 2020 16:46
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Records Window

 

Yes, sorry, I thought it was enabled by default, but I must have set it a long while ago.

Click the Options… button alongside the Filter and tick Include Husbands’ Surnames.

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sue Herrington
Sent: 08 July 2020 14:07
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Records Window

 

Mike, have you customised the Last Name filter in FH as I cannot reproduce the result you describe

 

Do you know that the Filter for Last Name at the top of the Records Window includes Husband’s Surnames by default?

i.e. If you search for Smith it will list everyone with the surname Smith and all women whose partner/spouse is a Smith.”

 

On trying this again just now, I still only have results of those individuals whose own surname is the one searched for.

 

Sue Herrington

 


Re: File attachments and Images on this list

Randy Dykhuis
 

Victor is probably using Firefox, which has a screen saver tool built into the browser. You can get to it via the context menu with a right-click or by clicking the 3 dots in the search bar at the top of the screen. I do not think this exists in Chrome or Edge.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 4:06 PM Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Victor, where exactly do you right-click, because that usually is a context menu that changes depending on what you click on.

It may be that your PC supplier has installed some snipping application or customised the right-click menu, but that is not standard default Windows 10 behaviour.

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham
Sent: 06 July 2020 20:51
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] File attachments and Images on this list

 

I have never used the snip tool mentioned. I just do a right click and a menu opens. At the bottom of the list it says 'take a screen shot' I mark the area I want to take then prompt copy and open it up in my photo software where I can make any adjustment I want

I am using Windows 10

Victor

On 06/07/2020 3:20 pm, Neil Grantham via groups.io wrote:

Yes, there is a new one with Windows 10 that you are offered when opening Snipping Tool

In Windows 10, a handy quick way of getting a screen grab with Snip and Sketch is to press Windows+Shift+S simultaneously (Windows key is the one between Ctrl and Alt to the left of the space bar) - you can then draw around your snip area you want to capture. This is copied to the clipboard - you are notified of this - and you can paste the clip to any application using Ctrl+V (or Edit>Paste)

Windows, Shift and S are handily close together and can be done with one hand.

By default just drag a square, but there are other options to create a freeform shape or grab a window or full screen - see the small menu that opens at the top of the screen.

 

Best Wishes,

Neil

 

 

On Monday, 6 July 2020, 15:11:53 BST, Derek Kain <genealogist15@...> wrote:

 

 

Neil and Trevor,

Thank you very much for that. I now remember coming across it a few years ago. But never used it.

Just found out a new Snip & Sketch is available.

Derek

 

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 14:52, Neil Grantham via groups.io <neil40=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Derek

 

If you are on Windows 7 or above Snipping Tool is part of the standard Windows operating system.

If you click on the Start button and start typing snip you will see the Tool offered as something you can click on.

Alternately, look in the Program folder 'Windows Accessories'

 

Best Wishes,

Neil

 

 

On Monday, 6 July 2020, 14:34:48 BST, Derek Kain <genealogist15@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello Ros,

Apologies for my ignorance. I couldn't find a program on my computer at the time to convert a screen dump that had to be cropped due to duel screens to jpg files. Will find Snipping tool and download it.

Derek 

 

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 14:22, Ros <ros@...> wrote:

Please be aware EVERY message which has an image or other attachment has to be manually approved. 

This makes for work for the list moderators.

So please:

1. Only attach files if essential
2. When replying to a message which had an image in it remember to remove the repeated image.  Ideally you should never include the full contents of the thread on any reply to the list.
3. If using an Antivirus which adds a picture to every email change the settings so it does not
4. Attachments not in jpg format will be removed (if you want to include a screen shot please use the Snipping tool to grab a jpg images, do not attach Word processing format files).


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Records Window

Mike Tate
 

Yes, sorry, I thought it was enabled by default, but I must have set it a long while ago.

Click the Options… button alongside the Filter and tick Include Husbands’ Surnames.

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sue Herrington
Sent: 08 July 2020 14:07
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Records Window

 

Mike, have you customised the Last Name filter in FH as I cannot reproduce the result you describe

 

Do you know that the Filter for Last Name at the top of the Records Window includes Husband’s Surnames by default?

i.e. If you search for Smith it will list everyone with the surname Smith and all women whose partner/spouse is a Smith.”

 

On trying this again just now, I still only have results of those individuals whose own surname is the one searched for.

 

Sue Herrington


Re: File attachments and Images on this list

Brian Horridge
 

Robert

You can just use PC function key F12 as well.

Brian

On 08/07/2020 15:15, Robert via groups.io wrote:
I also been using Irfanview since time began, and can’t believe it’s still free. One tip, which took me a while to find, was in the edit menu, “Show Paint dialogue” where you have access to the Straighten/rotate tool, which I use all the time on my marriage entry slips.

Robert


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On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 13:06, claverterry <terencedicker@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm pretty good at keeping up with possible tools (who many do I
load,
then discard almost immediately! But not Irfanview...what a wonderful
freebie). But Thank You for this. I had missed this upgrade to
Firefox,
having used an add-on until now. This is a real 'find'. Many thanks.

Terry

ps from a previous thread. I tried to use Evidentia, but for me it
was
more effort than it was worth. I just use a spreadsheet...but the
process of asking a research question, then thoroughly justifying the
answer is very rewarding (ref. Genealogical Proof Standard).





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Re: Records Window

Sue Herrington
 

Thanks very much Jane, I had completely forgotten about the options available!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jane Taubman
Sent: 08 July 2020 15:56
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Records Window

 

It's not actually the default, but if you click on small Options button next the the filters and tick the include Husbands surnames it will work.

 


Re: Records Window

Jane Taubman
 

It's not actually the default, but if you click on small Options button next the the filters and tick the include Husbands surnames it will work.


Re: File attachments and Images on this list

Trevor Rix
 

I have recently been using the free CamScanner app on my Android smartphone to 'scan' documents etc. I find it to be excellent, automatically taking photos when the phone is held correctly above the document, then auto straightening/deskewing etc before saving as jpgs to the cloud. Highly recommended.


Re: Records Window

Sue Herrington
 

Mike, have you customised the Last Name filter in FH as I cannot reproduce the result you describe

 

Do you know that the Filter for Last Name at the top of the Records Window includes Husband’s Surnames by default?

i.e. If you search for Smith it will list everyone with the surname Smith and all women whose partner/spouse is a Smith.”

 

On trying this again just now, I still only have results of those individuals whose own surname is the one searched for.

 

Sue Herrington

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike Tate
Sent: 08 July 2020 11:08
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Records Window

 

Yes, there are various techniques depending on exactly what you want.

I assume you know how to edit Records Window Columns.

 

The simplest expression is the surname of the spouse:

INDI.~SPOU[1]>NAME[1]:SURNAME

That will give the surname of husbands and the maiden surname of wives, but only for the 1st partnership/marriage.

 

To include the 2nd partnership/marriage in another column use:

INDI.~SPOU[2]>NAME[1]:SURNAME

Similarly, for 3rd, 4th, etc, spouses.

 

It is possible to combine those all in one column with a more complex expression if you are interested.

 

Do you know that the Filter for Last Name at the top of the Records Window includes Husband’s Surnames by default?

i.e. If you search for Smith it will list everyone with the surname Smith and all women whose partner/spouse is a Smith.

 

Many people also add the partner/spouse surname to the surname of women whose maiden name is unknown, but marked in some way.

e.g. Mary /[Smith]/ or Elizabeth /Jones?/ which has the advantage of sorting with the male Jones.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Brown
Sent: 08 July 2020 10:26
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Records Window

 

In the Records Window, is it possible to add a column for Husband’s Surname.  This would help where I have several Marys, Elizabeths, etc. whose surnames I do not know.

 

Bob Brown

 


Re: File attachments and Images on this list

Robert
 

I also been using Irfanview since time began, and can’t believe it’s still free. One tip, which took me a while to find, was in the edit menu, “Show Paint dialogue” where you have access to the Straighten/rotate tool, which I use all the time on my marriage entry slips.

On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 13:06, claverterry <terencedicker@...> wrote:

I'm pretty good at keeping up with possible tools (who many do I load,
then discard almost immediately! But not Irfanview...what a wonderful
freebie). But Thank You for this. I had missed this upgrade to Firefox,
having used an add-on until now. This is a real 'find'. Many thanks.

Terry

ps from a previous thread. I tried to use Evidentia, but for me it was
more effort than it was worth. I just use a spreadsheet...but the
process of asking a research question, then thoroughly justifying the
answer is very rewarding (ref. Genealogical Proof Standard).





Re: Records Window

Betty Downing
 

I have added a column I call Spouse Name and the expression that drives it is

INDI.~SPOU[1]>NAME[1]:SURNAME_FIRST

Hope this is useful,

Betty Downing


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On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 10:26, Bob Brown <r-j-brown@...> wrote:

In the Records Window, is it possible to add a column for Husband’s Surname.  This would help where I have several Marys, Elizabeths, etc. whose surnames I do not know.

 

Bob Brown

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