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Re: =TextIf function not working properly?

Mike Tate
 

I have to admit to a minor mistake in my earlier Sentence Template for displaying Address or Place names.

If neither Address nor Place exist then it still displays the word “in “ on its own, and the expression should have been:

{=CombineText( "at ", TextPart(%FACT.ADDR%,1,5,Tidy), , CombineText( "in ", TextPart(%FACT.PLAC%,1,5,Tidy), , ) )}

i.e.

If the Address field exists then combine it with the “at “ prefix, else if the Place field exists combine it with the “in “ prefix, else display nothing.

In other words the CombineText(…) function is very similar to < angle brackets > but has the added option to display something when the key field does not exist.

 

Sorry for the mistake, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Graham Conner via Groups.Io
Sent: 11 February 2020 19:03
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] =TextIf function not working properly?

 

Thanks again, Mike

Regards, Graham

 


Re: =TextIf function not working properly?

Graham Conner
 

Hi Mike,
I was wondering about that and was just testing the same fix when your message arrived!
Cheers,
Graham


Creating your own website

James Pam
 

After much prevarication I have had a go at using the FH 'create a website' tool and found it remarkably easy to use. I now want to produce a page which profiles particularly interesting family members with a written account of their life and photo's but I don't know how to proceed. Any ideas would be welcome. 
Are their links to FH users websites that illustrate what can be done?

PS - I really like this new @group.io


Re: Creating your own website

Evelyn and Christopher Wilcock <eandcw@...>
 

It is preferable to post any questions on the FHUG forum.
There are limitations to trees created within genealogy software.

I create my site using Gedsite which one has to buy but gives enormous flexibility for added pages. I upload a basic tree but the title page for most of my trees has text and photo created in the software. And you can add pics and documents for any person.


Evelyn Wilcock




-----Original Message-----
From: jamespam1 <jamespam1@...>
To: family-historian <family-historian@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:26
Subject: [family-historian] Creating your own website

After much prevarication I have had a go at using the FH 'create a website' tool and found it remarkably easy to use. I now want to produce a page which profiles particularly interesting family members with a written account of their life and photo's but I don't know how to proceed. Any ideas would be welcome. 
Are their links to FH users websites that illustrate what can be done?

PS - I really like this new @group.io


Re: Creating your own website

Jane Taubman
 


After much prevarication I have had a go at using the FH 'create a website' tool and found it remarkably easy to use. I now want to produce a page which profiles particularly interesting family members with a written account of their life and photo's but I don't know how to proceed. Any ideas would be welcome. 
Are their links to FH users websites that illustrate what can be done?

You can see a variety of Websites from Family Historian users here

You can add any "manually" written pages to the table of contents page in the page wizard,   if you generate the site and then copy the index page to a new page you can use an editor like Blue Griffon to change the content.

Alternately you can add Individual narrative reports to the table of contents for the more interesting people.   Don't forget you can add notes to every fact and customise the sentences to give the automatic reports a better flow.
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Re: Creating your own website

Paul Tanner-Tremaine
 

Evelyn, I am not sure what you mean by "There are limitations to trees created within genealogy software".  I have a master project in Family Historian 6.2.7 with

    Individual Records:171697
    Family Records: 57614
    Note Records: 614
    Source Records: 3722
    Repository Records: 105
    Submitter Records: 3
    Submission Records: 0
    Media Records: 8001
    Place Records: 18492

I export the gedcom into a TNG based website : https://www.1820settlers.com at least every fortnight with complete updates, and have yet to find any limitations within either piece of software!  I have also added many extra pages, features and functions to the TNG based software as you will see on the website.


Re: Creating your own website

Evelyn and Christopher Wilcock <eandcw@...>
 

Sorry. I meant limitations to websites created  within the genealogy software.
But Jane is expert and if she says you can do what you want with fh that is fine.
Apologies. I was only suggesting a way of doing what you want if it cant be accomplished in fh.
Evelyn


-----Original Message-----
From: paul <paul@...>
To: family-historian <family-historian@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 13:20
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Creating your own website

Evelyn, I am not sure what you mean by "There are limitations to trees created within genealogy software".  I have a master project in Family Historian 6.2.7 with
    Individual Records:171697
    Family Records: 57614
    Note Records: 614
    Source Records: 3722
    Repository Records: 105
    Submitter Records: 3
    Submission Records: 0
    Media Records: 8001
    Place Records: 18492
I export the gedcom into a TNG based website : https://www.1820settlers.com at least every fortnight with complete updates, and have yet to find any limitations within either piece of software!  I have also added many extra pages, features and functions to the TNG based software as you will see on the website.


Living persons

Sidney Katzen
 

Hello.  As you can do in reports, is it possible to remove birth details from persons flagged as living from trees and charts?
Thank You


Re: Add GRO Source

Jane Taubman
 

Personally I don't attach media to GRO Indexes,  so the plugin is not designed to work with them, but that looks OK.  Although "Add GRO Source" I thought put everything in one line.

BTW To send emails to group.io just email family-historian@groups.io





On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 15:56, Tom Beckham <westbeckham@...> wrote:

Hello Jane, 

I tried to send this via the new group but no success, it registered as a zero file size and would not send.  I then sent as a private message but not sure this worked either. 

---------------
Thank you for your help reference the GRO Plug in. It worked first time after trying out your suggestion. One question for which I would appreciate a further comment before I use the plug in further. 

I hopefully enclose a bad screen shot of the source windows after the plug in was used. I could not attach an image in the normal way but had to resort to a camera snap of the screen.

All the data was from the plug in except the text from source which was manually input. Is this correct and also does the data look as it should?
Thanks again

Tom Beckham 


Re: Living persons

Jane Taubman
 

> Hello.  As you can do in reports, is it possible to remove birth details from persons flagged as living from trees and charts?

Yes.   Clone your preferred text scheme in Diagram>Options then edit the lines you want to hide for living people and
tick the "Flag Condition"
select "Living" in the drop down
select "Not Set"

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Fact Sentance Template truncated

Graham Conner
 

I want to build a Fact sentence template in FH 6.2.7 like this:

The {date:YEAR} {label} for {=CombineText("at ",TextPart(%FACT.ADDR%,1,5,Tidy),,CombineText("in ",TextPart(%FACT.PLAC%,1,5,Tidy),,))} recorded the head of the household as {role(single)=Head of Household}. <His spouse was {role=Wife}. ><Her spouse was {role=Husband}.><The Children were {role=Son,Daughter,Stepson,Stepdaughter,Son-in-law,Daughter-in-law}. ><Other family members were {role=Father,Mother,Father-in-law,Mother-in-law,Stepfather,Stepmother,Brother,Sister,Brother-in-law,Sister-in-law,Grandfather,Grandmother,Grandfather of Wife,Grandmother of Wife,Grandfather of Husband,Grandmother of Husband,Grandson, Granddaughter,Grandson of Wife,Granddaughter of Wife,Grandson of Husband,Granddaughter of Husband,Uncle,Aunte,Nephew,Niece,Adopted Son,Adopted Daughter, Fostered Son, Fostered Daughter}.><The Servants were {role=Assistant,Servant,Housekeeper,Butler,Groom,Nurse}. ><Others living there were {role=Lodger,Boarder,Resident,Pupil,Student,Patient,Inmate}. >< Visitors at the time of census were {role=Visitor}. ><<para>Note: {=TextPart(%FACT.ADDR%,7,1)}><{note}>

This works OK at first.

If I save the project, close the project and reopen the project it will appear the same, no problem.

However, If I save the project, close the project, and exit from FH completely, restart FH and open the project I end up with this:

The {date:YEAR} {label} for {=CombineText("at ",TextPart(%FACT.ADDR%,1,5,Tidy),,CombineText("in ",TextPart(%FACT.PLAC%,1,5,Tidy),,))} recorded the head of the household as {role(single)=Head of Household}. <His spouse was {role=Wife}. ><Her spouse was {role=Husband}.><The Children were {role=Son,Daughter,Stepson,Stepdaughter,Son-in-law,Daughter-in-law}. ><Other family members were {role=Father,Mother,Father-in-law,Mother-in-law,Stepfather,Stepmother,Brother,Sister,Brother-in-law,Sister-in-law,Grandfather,Grandmother,Grandfather of Wife,Grandmother of Wife,Grandfather of Husband,Grandmother of Husband,Grandson, Granddaughter,Grandson of Wife,Granddaughter of Wife,Grandson of Husband,Granddaughter of Husband,Uncle,Aunte,Nephew,Niece,Adopted Son,Adopted Daughter, Fostered Son, Fostered Daughter}.><The Servants were {role=Assistant,Servant,Housekeeper,Butler,Groom,Nurse}. ><Others living there were {role=Lodger,Boarder,Resident,Pupil,Student,Patient,Inmate}. >< Visitors at the time of cen

Which no longer works as intended. It looks like the problem is to do with loading the data initially, not what can be held while FH6 is running. Can this be fixed?

Regards, Graham


Re: Fact Sentence Template truncated

Mike Tate
 

Graham,

The point to remember is that most customisations apply globally to all Projects, so switching Projects retains the Fact Sentence Templates within FH local memory.

It is only when you close FH that customisation settings get saved externally, in this case to the C:\ProgramData\Calico Pie\Family Historian\Fact Types\ folder.

It seems that when saved each Fact Sentence Template is limited to 1,000 characters, so the Template gets truncated at the end.

That limitation should be reported to Calico Pie as soon as possible and they might fix it before Version 7 is released.

In the meantime you will just have to work within that limit.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Graham Conner via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 February 2020 08:27
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Fact Sentance Template truncated

 

I want to build a Fact sentence template in FH 6.2.7 like this:

The {date:YEAR} {label} for {=CombineText("at ",TextPart(%FACT.ADDR%,1,5,Tidy),,CombineText("in ",TextPart(%FACT.PLAC%,1,5,Tidy),,))} recorded the head of the household as {role(single)=Head of Household}. <His spouse was {role=Wife}. ><Her spouse was {role=Husband}.><The Children were {role=Son,Daughter,Stepson,Stepdaughter,Son-in-law,Daughter-in-law}. ><Other family members were {role=Father,Mother,Father-in-law,Mother-in-law,Stepfather,Stepmother,Brother,Sister,Brother-in-law,Sister-in-law,Grandfather,Grandmother,Grandfather of Wife,Grandmother of Wife,Grandfather of Husband,Grandmother of Husband,Grandson, Granddaughter,Grandson of Wife,Granddaughter of Wife,Grandson of Husband,Granddaughter of Husband,Uncle,Aunte,Nephew,Niece,Adopted Son,Adopted Daughter, Fostered Son, Fostered Daughter}.><The Servants were {role=Assistant,Servant,Housekeeper,Butler,Groom,Nurse}. ><Others living there were {role=Lodger,Boarder,Resident,Pupil,Student,Patient,Inmate}. >< Visitors at the time of census were {role=Visitor}. ><<para>Note: {=TextPart(%FACT.ADDR%,7,1)}><{note}>

This works OK at first.

If I save the project, close the project and reopen the project it will appear the same, no problem.

However, If I save the project, close the project, and exit from FH completely, restart FH and open the project I end up with this:

The {date:YEAR} {label} for {=CombineText("at ",TextPart(%FACT.ADDR%,1,5,Tidy),,CombineText("in ",TextPart(%FACT.PLAC%,1,5,Tidy),,))} recorded the head of the household as {role(single)=Head of Household}. <His spouse was {role=Wife}. ><Her spouse was {role=Husband}.><The Children were {role=Son,Daughter,Stepson,Stepdaughter,Son-in-law,Daughter-in-law}. ><Other family members were {role=Father,Mother,Father-in-law,Mother-in-law,Stepfather,Stepmother,Brother,Sister,Brother-in-law,Sister-in-law,Grandfather,Grandmother,Grandfather of Wife,Grandmother of Wife,Grandfather of Husband,Grandmother of Husband,Grandson, Granddaughter,Grandson of Wife,Granddaughter of Wife,Grandson of Husband,Granddaughter of Husband,Uncle,Aunte,Nephew,Niece,Adopted Son,Adopted Daughter, Fostered Son, Fostered Daughter}.><The Servants were {role=Assistant,Servant,Housekeeper,Butler,Groom,Nurse}. ><Others living there were {role=Lodger,Boarder,Resident,Pupil,Student,Patient,Inmate}. >< Visitors at the time of cen

Which no longer works as intended. It looks like the problem is to do with loading the data initially, not what can be held while FH6 is running. Can this be fixed?

Regards, Graham


Re: Fact Sentence Template truncated

Evelyn and Christopher Wilcock <eandcw@...>
 

Mike Is this a Gedcom limit? I think I came across the problem and limitation in a previous software I used.
Evelyn Wilcock


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Tate <post@...>
To: family-historian <family-historian@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 9:53
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Fact Sentence Template truncated

Graham . . .
It seems that when saved each Fact Sentence Template is limited to 1,000 characters, so the Template gets truncated at the end.
That limitation should be reported to Calico Pie as soon as possible and they might fix it before Version 7 is released.
._,_


How to deal with an engagement when the couple never marry

simon pugh <polydorus1@...>
 

I am using the trial version of Family historian and have imported a Master Genealogist database.
I have an woman who was engaged to a man, but she jilted him and married someone else.
The engagement has been imported but then the man automatically becomes a spouse when there is no marriage record. I am unclear how to deal with this except by removing the engagement and putting it in as note. 


Re: How to deal with an engagement when the couple never marry

Ros
 

Just set the "status" on the main tab of the Property box as either "Unmarried couple" or "Never Married"


Re: How to deal with an engagement when the couple never marry

MARGARET LAWRENCE
 

I haven’t got access to FH at the moment, but if you still want to show that the couple got engaged I think that there is an ‘Engaged’ fact.

Margaret.


On 14 Feb 2020, at 11:03, Ros <ros@...> wrote:

Just set the "status" on the main tab of the Property box as either "Unmarried couple" or "Never Married"


Re: How to deal with an engagement when the couple never marry

simon pugh <polydorus1@...>
 

"Just set the "status" on the main tab of the Property box as either "Unmarried couple" or "Never Married""

Thank you, so simple when you know!


Re: How to deal with an engagement when the couple never marry

Victor Markham
 

In the focus window under the marriage details open the menu and select unmarried couple

On 14 Feb 2020, at 10:51, simon pugh <polydorus1@...> wrote:
I am using the trial version of Family historian and have imported a Master Genealogist database.
I have an woman who was engaged to a man, but she jilted him and married someone else.
The engagement has been imported but then the man automatically becomes a spouse when there is no marriage record. I am unclear how to deal with this except by removing the engagement and putting it in as note. 


Re: Fact Sentence Template truncated

Mike Tate
 

No Evelyn, Sentence Templates are nothing whatever to do with GEDCOM.

They are customisations entirely local to each product, and for FH are NOT saved in its GEDCOM data file.

Possibly, some products can understand each others Sentence Templates and read each others databases, but that does not involve GEDCOM.

 

The Export Gedcom File Plugin does include FH Sentence Templates in its GEDCOM file for use by GedSite, but that uses a special non-standard extension privately agreed between us.

Other products may do likewise. But that is all external to FH, and Graham’s problem is internal to FH.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Evelyn and Christopher Wilcock via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 February 2020 10:21
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Fact Sentence Template truncated

 

Mike Is this a Gedcom limit? I think I came across the problem and limitation in a previous software I used.

Evelyn Wilcock

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Tate <post@...>
To: family-historian <family-historian@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 9:53
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Fact Sentence Template truncated

Graham . . .

It seems that when saved each Fact Sentence Template is limited to 1,000 characters, so the Template gets truncated at the end.

That limitation should be reported to Calico Pie as soon as possible and they might fix it before Version 7 is released.

 


Re: How to deal with an engagement when the couple never marry

uhkh3tsccmz9@beconfidential.com
 

Part of the problem is that broken-engagement "couples" show as a "couple" in diagrams (albeit with the link line double dashed rather than double lined). Where people live together this is probably OK (mark as "Unmarried couple"), but where someone was jilted (or the engagement was mutually ended) it sometimes seems strange for the "couple" to appear as such in diagrams.

I suppose it depends whether you want the couple to show as a couple (especially if there are children) - in which case create a "spouse"* but mark them as "never married" - and add an engagement fact for the couple (if possible with from-to dates) to make clear the reason for the never married clear.

* I think many genealogy programs have historically tended to show anyone who shares couple facts as a "spouse".

The alternative is to create a custom fact for "Engagement (single)" where you add the temporary fiancé as a witness to the fact. The fiancé as a witness can be just a "name" or can be a link to someone else in the file.

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