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Re: Hints from FMP not showing in the Web search window

Mike Tate
 

Pauline,

The FH internal Web Search Window is unaffected by the Chrome browser or any other browser except IE.

Note that the FH Web Search Window cannot access FMP record unless you sign in via FH or IE.

Signing in via Chrome does not work.

 

What have you tried to close the FH Web Search Window?

Left-click the X in the Navigation Bar icon on left.

Right-click that same icon and use Close Window.

Use Window > Close All Non-essential Windows.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Pauline Parnell
Sent: 05 February 2020 09:33
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Hints from FMP not showing in the Web search window

 

I’m having the same problem. I’m not sure when it started because I’ve been on holiday. I’m also finding it very difficult to close the window. I wondered if it might be related to having FMP open in chrome at the same time, although that never used to make a difference.

Pauline 

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Re: Reinstall question

Trevor Rix
 

You should be able to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 free of charge, without losing the Family Historian program (and other programs/apps) or your FH data. I have upgraded several PCs/laptops for free over the last year with complete success. The instructions are here.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-how-you-can-still-get-a-free-windows-10-upgrade/


Re: Reinstall question

Mike Tate
 

Yes, that is technique that has been reported as working in many forums and newsletters and uses the Download Windows 10 web page I mentioned.

 

There are general Windows 10 update tips in the FHUG Knowledge Base Windows 10 Upgrade Tips:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=glossary:windows_10_upgrade_tips

The Alternative Upgrade Method is the technique being discussed here.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Trevor Rix
Sent: 05 February 2020 10:08
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Reinstall question

 

You should be able to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 free of charge, without losing the Family Historian program (and other programs/apps) or your FH data. I have upgraded several PCs/laptops for free over the last year with complete success. The instructions are here.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-how-you-can-still-get-a-free-windows-10-upgrade/


Adding Historical events to the descendants narrative report

Oldmaninmyshavingmirror
 

Hi All,

Having entered all my family into FH I used the descendant’s narrative to produce the relevant 'book'. It all worked perfectly but I wanted to try to add some important historical events to align with individual's existence e.g. 1965 Winston Churchill died when nephew John was born.

Is there any way this can be achieved?

Many thanks in advance


Re: Importance Value of various Birth Sources

Adrian Bruce
 



On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 09:50 Jon <jon.gilbert@...> wrote:
A bit risky if the bride (or groom) gets the jitters on 'the day' and back out, and the incumbent forgets to delete the entry....

Ah, but the sensible thing to do would be to leave the entry unsigned (or unmarked) so that if someone doesn't turn up or there's an objection, then it's not actually a valid entry. And I have seen an unsigned entry at least once. The oddity there was that it was indexed (actually, indexing is probably sensible) and if I hadn't checked the image, I'd be under the impression that the couple married twice.


Re: Hints from FMP not showing in the Web search window

Adrian Bruce
 



On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 10:01 Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

... The Internet Explorer core shell is fundamental to Windows File Explorer, the Windows Desktop, ...

You are right that it is not being ‘developed’ or ‘supported’ which just means it is getting no new features or bug fixes

I would have thought that the core shell, being, as you say, a fundamental part of the Windows User Interface, would still be subject to bug fixes. Otherwise, that's a nice channel of attack for the black hats. 

Whether the adoption of the Chrome engine in the Edge browser might affect the continued use of the IE core, I have no idea. I keep losing track of which bit the Chrome engine is an engine for! (And indeed, whether it's Chrome or Chromium!) 


Re: Importance Value of various Birth Sources

Lorna Craig
 

I did once see an entry in an old PR where details had been filled out but there were no signatures.  The clergyman had helpfully added an explanation to the effect that "it having been made known to me that the man hath a wife living, the ceremony did not proceed".  So someone really did say something when asked "if anyone knows of any lawful reason..... speak now or forever hold thy peace".


Re: Adding Historical events to the descendants narrative report

Lorna Craig
 

Hello,

You have just posted the same question on FHUG and got a couple of quick replies there, so I suggest you continue the discussion there. 

Lorna

 

From: Oldmaninmyshavingmirror
Sent: 05 February 2020 12:15
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Adding Historical events to the descendants narrative report

 

Hi All,

Having entered all my family into FH I used the descendant’s narrative to produce the relevant 'book'. It all worked perfectly but I wanted to try to add some important historical events to align with individual's existence e.g. 1965 Winston Churchill died when nephew John was born.

Is there any way this can be achieved?

Many thanks in advance

 


Re: Hints from FMP not showing in the Web search window

Mike Tate
 

You have slightly misquoted me.

The IE core shell almost certainly is still ‘supported’.

It is IE that I said is not ‘supported’ by which I meant the user interface built on top of the core shell.

 

The Edge browser is not even a component of Windows, and is planned to be shipped and updated as a separate product.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Bruce
Sent: 05 February 2020 13:56
To: Family Historian Groups.io mailing list <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Hints from FMP not showing in the Web search window

 

 

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 10:01 Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

... The Internet Explorer core shell is fundamental to Windows File Explorer, the Windows Desktop, ...

You are right that it is not being ‘developed’ or ‘supported’ which just means it is getting no new features or bug fixes

I would have thought that the core shell, being, as you say, a fundamental part of the Windows User Interface, would still be subject to bug fixes. Otherwise, that's a nice channel of attack for the black hats. 

 

Whether the adoption of the Chrome engine in the Edge browser might affect the continued use of the IE core, I have no idea. I keep losing track of which bit the Chrome engine is an engine for! (And indeed, whether it's Chrome or Chromium!) 


Re: Family Historian 7 - Sync with FS

David Potter
 

Hi Pedro
It would appear no one really knows. I think Calico Pie are keeping the details under wraps for now.

David


Re: Family Historian 7 - Sync with FS

Pedro S Inácio
 

Hi David,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 
Since last year I started a semi(pseudo)-migration to RootsMagic because of their sync to FS functionality.
But the real fact is that I kind of cannot stop using FH. I feel it is much superior.

I will keep dreaming Calico Pie will someday add this ability...

Em qua., 5 de fev. de 2020 às 13:35, David Potter via Groups.Io <David.potter5=googlemail.com@groups.io> escreveu:

Hi Pedro
It would appear no one really knows. I think Calico Pie are keeping the details under wraps for now.

David


Re: Hints from FMP not showing in the Web search window

Adrian Bruce
 

On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 14:13, Mike Tate <post@tatewise.co.uk> wrote:
You have slightly misquoted me.
The IE core shell almost certainly is still ‘supported’.
It is IE that I said is not ‘supported’ by which I meant the user interface built on top of the core shell.
Ooops. Sorry - I ran two sentences together in my reading of your mail.
Adrian


Re: Family Historian 7 - Sync with FS

David Potter
 

I have the same thoughts and dreams. I use Family Tree Maker 2019. I extract from FH into FTM then synch to Ancestry and FamilySearch. It's a chore but works for me. FH will always be my Master software for Genealogy.

Best David

On Wed, 5 Feb 2020, 16:52 Pedro S Inácio, <psinacio@...> wrote:
Hi David,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 
Since last year I started a semi(pseudo)-migration to RootsMagic because of their sync to FS functionality.
But the real fact is that I kind of cannot stop using FH. I feel it is much superior.

I will keep dreaming Calico Pie will someday add this ability...

Em qua., 5 de fev. de 2020 às 13:35, David Potter via Groups.Io <David.potter5=googlemail.com@groups.io> escreveu:
Hi Pedro
It would appear no one really knows. I think Calico Pie are keeping the details under wraps for now.

David


Re: Family Historian 7 - Sync with FS

Mike Tate
 

I very much doubt if FH will ever ‘synch’ with any online tree such as FS, Ancestry, FMP, MyHeritage, etc.

It may raise ‘hints’ as it does with FMP and MyHeritage, but direct ‘synch’ is highly unlikely in my opinion.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Potter via Groups.Io
Sent: 05 February 2020 17:37
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Family Historian 7 - Sync with FS

 

I have the same thoughts and dreams. I use Family Tree Maker 2019. I extract from FH into FTM then synch to Ancestry and FamilySearch. It's a chore but works for me. FH will always be my Master software for Genealogy.

 

Best David

 

On Wed, 5 Feb 2020, 16:52 Pedro S Inácio, <psinacio@...> wrote:

Hi David,

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 

Since last year I started a semi(pseudo)-migration to RootsMagic because of their sync to FS functionality.

But the real fact is that I kind of cannot stop using FH. I feel it is much superior.

 

I will keep dreaming Calico Pie will someday add this ability...

 

Em qua., 5 de fev. de 2020 às 13:35, David Potter via Groups.Io <David.potter5=googlemail.com@groups.io> escreveu:

Hi Pedro
It would appear no one really knows. I think Calico Pie are keeping the details under wraps for now.

David


Re: Family Historian 7 - Sync with FS

Victor Markham
 

I use both FH and FTM. FH is what I work on all the time. From time to time I copy my tree to FTM for links to other people's trees and anything on ancestry of the names on my tree.
Sorry but I don't use the links shown on the names on FH

On 5 Feb 2020, at 20:17, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

I very much doubt if FH will ever ‘synch’ with any online tree such as FS, Ancestry, FMP, MyHeritage, etc.

It may raise ‘hints’ as it does with FMP and MyHeritage, but direct ‘synch’ is highly unlikely in my opinion.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Potter via Groups.Io
Sent: 05 February 2020 17:37
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Family Historian 7 - Sync with FS

 

I have the same thoughts and dreams. I use Family Tree Maker 2019. I extract from FH into FTM then synch to Ancestry and FamilySearch. It's a chore but works for me. FH will always be my Master software for Genealogy.

 

Best David

 

On Wed, 5 Feb 2020, 16:52 Pedro S Inácio, <psinacio@...> wrote:

Hi David,

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 

Since last year I started a semi(pseudo)-migration to RootsMagic because of their sync to FS functionality.

But the real fact is that I kind of cannot stop using FH. I feel it is much superior.

 

I will keep dreaming Calico Pie will someday add this ability...

 

Em qua., 5 de fev. de 2020 às 13:35, David Potter via Groups.Io <David.potter5=googlemail.com@groups.io> escreveu:

Hi Pedro
It would appear no one really knows. I think Calico Pie are keeping the details under wraps for now.

David


File path incorrect, New Windows 10 laptop, FH v 6.27 newly installed

gtbookham+carol
 

I am having difficulty getting my file to save and be found easily.
I had saved files on external drive to back up documents when changing over to a new laptop. Also saved to the D: drive is the zipped file created when exiting the program.
I can use restore function to bring the 2000+ person file in and have corrected the link for the media, but it does not seem to save it anywhere I can easily find the next time I go to use FH. So I am unwilling to risk adding anymore information in case it gets lost in the myriad of possible places it may go.
When I click on project window it states current project is in my c: drive as a gedcom file, but the location further down states My documents\ Family Historian Project
 
When I go to open up the project the file name has temporary in brackets but that doesnot have any data in it. The temporary project I created to bring the data into, is also empty each time I open.
I can find it if I browse and hit a file labelled temporary in the Documents/Family Historian Projects/Temporary  but why can I not save it as the main file to be found easily.
Sorry for rambling but computers are not my forte.


Re: Hints from FMP not showing in the Web search window

Robin
 

John

I have had this problem several times a year since using Windows 7, 8.1 and now version 10 on a new PC. Although in most instances Mike has never had the problem at the same time as me I firmly believe that it always happens after a Windows update of some kind. Mine last happened about a week ago. I wish there was a way to permanently lock in the required ‘11’ whenever FH is loaded.

Kind regards

Robin Dew

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of saruman via Groups.Io
Sent: 04 February 2020 18:10
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Hints from FMP not showing in the Web search window

 

Hi, This used to work perfectly, but recently when clicking on a link, all I get is a blank page in the web search window. I am wondering if something has happened since the NEW Microsoft Edge was released. Has anybody else had this problem. I am using FH V6.2.7 on Windows 10

regards
John


Re: File path incorrect, New Windows 10 laptop, FH v 6.27 newly installed

Mike Tate
 

Carol,

I am sorry you are having those problems.

The way forward is to describe your symptoms in a lot more detail and provide screenshot attachments.

You can see what is happening but unless you describe it accurately we cannot give the appropriate help.

When referring to files please give as much of the file path and file name as possible.

When referring to displays and commands, describe the relevant details fully.

 

I am going to ask lots of questions, so please answer as many as possible in order to get a solution as quickly as possible.

 

As you say, in the File > Project Window the default Location for your Projects is My Documents\Family Historian Projects.

Does that Family Historian Projects folder exist in your Documents folder when viewed via Windows File Explorer?

 

In Tools > Preferences > Startup what is the Default Startup File path?

 

Exactly what is the filename of the backup zip file you restored?

 

When you used File > Backup/Restore > Restore Backup and chose that zip file what di it say in Location to Restore to: ?

If necessary repeat that command but when reaching that Restore Project from Backup small window click on Cancel.

 

In the File > Project Window does it actually say Current Project: C:\Users\... or Current Gedcom File: C:\Users\...?

 

On the very top line of the main FH window does it say  - Family Historian Project – or – Family Historian Gedcom - ?

 

There is a detailed guide in the FHUG Knowledge Base for migrating from PC to PC and transferring all your Projects, etc.

So you may be better advised to join the FHUG https://www.fhug.org.uk/ which is free and follow the advice there.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of carol@...
Sent: 05 February 2020 16:53
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] File path incorrect, New Windows 10 laptop, FH v 6.27 newly installed

 

I am having difficulty getting my file to save and be found easily.
I had saved files on external drive to back up documents when changing over to a new laptop. Also saved to the D: drive is the zipped file created when exiting the program.
I can use restore function to bring the 2000+ person file in and have corrected the link for the media, but it does not seem to save it anywhere I can easily find the next time I go to use FH. So I am unwilling to risk adding anymore information in case it gets lost in the myriad of possible places it may go.
When I click on project window it states current project is in my c: drive as a gedcom file, but the location further down states My documents\ Family Historian Project
 
When I go to open up the project the file name has temporary in brackets but that doesnot have any data in it. The temporary project I created to bring the data into, is also empty each time I open.
I can find it if I browse and hit a file labelled temporary in the Documents/Family Historian Projects/Temporary  but why can I not save it as the main file to be found easily.
Sorry for rambling but computers are not my forte.

 


Re: Family Historian 7 - Sync with FS

Pedro S Inácio
 

Mike, I agree. And this is sad,  "synch"  is really a great feature. The only reason I am using RM too.
Hints are nice, but is not even close to the sync functionality...

Em qua., 5 de fev. de 2020 às 17:16, Mike Tate <post@...> escreveu:

I very much doubt if FH will ever ‘synch’ with any online tree such as FS, Ancestry, FMP, MyHeritage, etc.

It may raise ‘hints’ as it does with FMP and MyHeritage, but direct ‘synch’ is highly unlikely in my opinion.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Potter via Groups.Io
Sent: 05 February 2020 17:37
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Family Historian 7 - Sync with FS

 

I have the same thoughts and dreams. I use Family Tree Maker 2019. I extract from FH into FTM then synch to Ancestry and FamilySearch. It's a chore but works for me. FH will always be my Master software for Genealogy.

 

Best David

 

On Wed, 5 Feb 2020, 16:52 Pedro S Inácio, <psinacio@...> wrote:

Hi David,

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 

Since last year I started a semi(pseudo)-migration to RootsMagic because of their sync to FS functionality.

But the real fact is that I kind of cannot stop using FH. I feel it is much superior.

 

I will keep dreaming Calico Pie will someday add this ability...

 

Em qua., 5 de fev. de 2020 às 13:35, David Potter via Groups.Io <David.potter5=googlemail.com@groups.io> escreveu:

Hi Pedro
It would appear no one really knows. I think Calico Pie are keeping the details under wraps for now.

David


Re: Reinstall question

Joseph Levine
 

Mike,

    I’m having trouble finding the page to download the plugin.  Would you  please send a link?

Joe

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2020 5:46 PM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Reinstall question

 

Hoe,

This Email list is a replacement for the Rootsweb mail list, both run by Simon Orde of Calico Pie.

Neither are anything to do with the FHUG website, so I advise you stick with the FHUG and ask your questions there.

 

The FH File > Backup/Restore commands only backup Projects and do NOT backup your customisations.

So download the ‘Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings’ Plugin from the FH Plugin Store.

It is best to update to FH V6.2.7 and run the Plugin before installing Windows 10.

Then afterwards when you install FH and update to FH V6.2.7 the backups will be compatible.

 

Have you gone to the https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 website to Create Windows 10 installation media?

That is the technique that reliably works for free.

 

But this discussion would be much easier in the FHUG Forums.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Levine
Sent: 04 February 2020 20:59
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Reinstall question

 

Thanks Mike,

     I do belong to the FHUG. That was how I landed here. I thought it switched over.   I have a few questions.  Is there any need for me to upgrade FH before switching to Windows 10?  I don’t think I have a “Backup and Restore…” plug-in, bur anytime I make changes I use the regular [I thought built-in] “Backup and Restore…” selecting to Full Project option.  Is that the same thing?  As far as Windows 10 goes, I had a few failed upgrade attempts alone, a couple with a computer consultant/tech friend and one each with two Microsoft techs2 on the phone.  One said I’d need to purchase a Product key for full  use once upgraded [but never happened] while the other thought not. So, I think I’ve tried the technique to which you’re referring but I’m not sure. 

Joe

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2020 2:59 PM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Reinstall question

 

Hi Joe,

There is advice on that topic in the FHUG Knowledge Base Family Historian Installation Advice:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:reinstall_family_historian

I suggest you join the FHUG https://www.fhug.org.uk/ that is free and has free resources, forums, downloads, etc.

 

FH V6.2.5 is NOT the latest version, so I strongly advise you update to the free FH V6.2.7 before anything else.

Also make sure you have backups of your FH Projects and anything else on the PC that is valuable.

Don’t forget to run the Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings Plugin, otherwise you may lose all your customisations of Diagrams, Reports, Queries, Plugins, Fact Sets, Property Box tabs, Icons, etc, etc.

 

You only need your FH V6.0.0 Upgrade disk and the Licence Registration Keys for both V5 and V6 as explained in the Installation Advice above.

Then you can update to the latest free FH V6.2.7 download.

 

BTW: Are you using the Windows 10 free update technique? Don’t buy a Windows 10 licence.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Levine
Sent: 04 February 2020 18:11
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Reinstall question

 

            I am currently using Family Historian 6.2.5 on a Windows 7 PC.  I need to do an install of Windows 10 that will eliminate my programs/apps.  So, I will need to reinstall FH.  I have my FH 5 disk and the FH 6.0.0 Upgrade disk.  Will I be able to get set on on Windows 10 by using them sequentially and then doing the online upgrades?  If not, what do I need to do?

Joe

 

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