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Re: Internet Data Matching problem

Mike Tate
 

It is nothing to do with whether you use Internet Explorer or not, as it is an essential inherent component of Windows.

When programs like FH want to present a browser window they have to use the IE Shell.

But sometimes the IE Shell version needs resetting and the Plugin will do that, or you may have to reset IE itself as explained in the wiki.

That should get the FH Web Search Window working and you must Sign in to FMP via that FH window to retrieve records.

It is worth fixing otherwise other FH related features may not work correctly.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Flood via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 March 2020 16:25
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Internet Data Matching problem

 

Mike,

 

Thanks. It all becomes clear from the wiki, I don't use Internet Explorer hence the problem. It does open in the External Web Browser, slightly less convenient but it works.

 

Regards

Robert

 

On Saturday, 14 March 2020, 15:53:55 GMT, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

 

 

Robert,

You can post wherever is most convenient, but it is a bit easier to refer to the FHUG Knowledge Base from the FHUG Forums than here.

Does it work OK if you choose an External Web Browser?

If so, then try running the Write Reg IE Shell Version Plugin.

Full details are explained in https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:internet_data_matches

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Flood via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 March 2020 15:41
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Internet Data Matching problem

 

I seem to have a problem with Internet Data Matching. I have matching enabled with Find my Past and in the Focus Window I can clearly see a roundel with a green figure in each person's entry. However when I click on the link the Web Search Window opens and is completely empty except for the address https://www.findmypast.co.uk/hints-ui/ in the bar. I cannot find any way of checking the link and the information at family-historian.co.uk/aidm does not seem to cover this. What am I doing wrong? Apologies if I should have posted this on FHUG, not sure what should go where.
Robert


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Re: Sudden closures

Phil Young
 

Hi,
I have experienced this problem occasionally.
It only occurs for me when:
  1. the embedded IE web browser window is open,
  2. I have reviewed quite a few Internet data matches (say 50 or more) since last opening FH,
  3. opening of new pages / results seems to slow up and then it crashes
At the time it crashes I am not aware of having requested anything unusual or different.
When I re-open FH everything works fine (until the next time).
I just wonder whether there is a memory leak somewhere?
Just a thought, I have no evidence to support it.
Regards, Phil Young




Re: Sudden closures

Pauline Parnell
 

Thanks Phil. I’ve been seeing the same thing but hadn’t joined the dots. 
Pauline 

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 17:08, Phil Young <phil@...> wrote:
Hi,
I have experienced this problem occasionally.
It only occurs for me when:
  1. the embedded IE web browser window is open,
  2. I have reviewed quite a few Internet data matches (say 50 or more) since last opening FH,
  3. opening of new pages / results seems to slow up and then it crashes
At the time it crashes I am not aware of having requested anything unusual or different.
When I re-open FH everything works fine (until the next time).
I just wonder whether there is a memory leak somewhere?
Just a thought, I have no evidence to support it.
Regards, Phil Young




Re: Sudden closures

Mike Tate
 

Phil & Pauline,

Can you please explain in more detail what you are doing.

Are you saying there are 50+ records to review for one person all in the same Web Search Window?

Or are you going back to the Focus Window and opening hints for another person?

I this latter case usually a new Web Search Window is opened so you will be accumulating many open Web Search Windows.

Unless that is you have changed Tools > Preferences > Workspaces to allow re-use of the Web Search Window.

 

Have you tried using the External Web Browser option?

 

If it really is a solid fault then it needs reporting to Calico Pie.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Pauline Parnell
Sent: 14 March 2020 17:12
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Sudden closures

 

Thanks Phil. I’ve been seeing the same thing but hadn’t joined the dots. 

Pauline 

 

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 17:08, Phil Young <phil@...> wrote:

Hi,
I have experienced this problem occasionally.
It only occurs for me when:

  1. the embedded IE web browser window is open,
  2. I have reviewed quite a few Internet data matches (say 50 or more) since last opening FH,
  3. opening of new pages / results seems to slow up and then it crashes

At the time it crashes I am not aware of having requested anything unusual or different.
When I re-open FH everything works fine (until the next time).
I just wonder whether there is a memory leak somewhere?
Just a thought, I have no evidence to support it.
Regards, Phil Young


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Re: Internet Data Matching problem

Jonathan Copeland
 

I believe something similar was asked a few days ago and there was an answer that suggested to me that Family Historian uses something akin to Internet Explorer as its built-in browser.  Settings were given that could be changed, but it all sounded a bit too fiddly to me ( I should say I was having the same issue as you).  I have recently installed the new version of Edge so suspect, but haven't checked, that the issue may well be related to the new Edge browser automatic settings, which is a Chrome based browser.
The alternative answer that was given was to change the settings in FamilyHistorian itself so as to open the data matches in an external browser.  I went for that option and it worked a treat.  It makes no odds to me whether I look at see the details of theses hints within FamilyHistorian or outside so I'm sticking with the changed settings.
You'll find the settings in Internet / Internet Data Matches then simply change the drop down for "Location to Display" to "External Web Browser".  A new tab will then open in your default browser, Chrome in my case.
Hopefully that's the answer to your question!
Jon  



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On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 15:40, Robert Flood via Groups.Io <robert.flood=btopenworld.com@groups.io> wrote:
I seem to have a problem with Internet Data Matching. I have matching enabled with Find my Past and in the Focus Window I can clearly see a roundel with a green figure in each person's entry. However when I click on the link the Web Search Window opens and is completely empty except for the address https://www.findmypast.co.uk/hints-ui/ in the bar. I cannot find any way of checking the link and the information at family-historian.co.uk/aidm does not seem to cover this. What am I doing wrong? Apologies if I should have posted this on FHUG, not sure what should go where.
Robert


Re: Internet Data Matching problem

Mike Tate
 

FYI: The Edge browser is another external browser just like Firefox or Chrome.

Those browser apps have absolutely no impact on the Internet Explorer Shell used by FH.

However, Windows Updates that coincidentally update the Edge may also upset the Internet Explorer Shell and require the resets suggested.

Using the External Web Browser option is a useful workaround.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Copeland
Sent: 14 March 2020 16:55
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Internet Data Matching problem

 

I believe something similar was asked a few days ago and there was an answer that suggested to me that Family Historian uses something akin to Internet Explorer as its built-in browser.  Settings were given that could be changed, but it all sounded a bit too fiddly to me ( I should say I was having the same issue as you).  I have recently installed the new version of Edge so suspect, but haven't checked, that the issue may well be related to the new Edge browser automatic settings, which is a Chrome based browser.

The alternative answer that was given was to change the settings in FamilyHistorian itself so as to open the data matches in an external browser.  I went for that option and it worked a treat.  It makes no odds to me whether I look at see the details of theses hints within FamilyHistorian or outside so I'm sticking with the changed settings.

You'll find the settings in Internet / Internet Data Matches then simply change the drop down for "Location to Display" to "External Web Browser".  A new tab will then open in your default browser, Chrome in my case.

Hopefully that's the answer to your question!

Jon  


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Re: Internet Data Matching problem

Jonathan Copeland
 

Well Mr Tate , exactly my point.

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:54, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

FYI: The Edge browser is another external browser just like Firefox or Chrome.

Those browser apps have absolutely no impact on the Internet Explorer Shell used by FH.

However, Windows Updates that coincidentally update the Edge may also upset the Internet Explorer Shell and require the resets suggested.

Using the External Web Browser option is a useful workaround.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Copeland
Sent: 14 March 2020 16:55
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Internet Data Matching problem

 

I believe something similar was asked a few days ago and there was an answer that suggested to me that Family Historian uses something akin to Internet Explorer as its built-in browser.  Settings were given that could be changed, but it all sounded a bit too fiddly to me ( I should say I was having the same issue as you).  I have recently installed the new version of Edge so suspect, but haven't checked, that the issue may well be related to the new Edge browser automatic settings, which is a Chrome based browser.

The alternative answer that was given was to change the settings in FamilyHistorian itself so as to open the data matches in an external browser.  I went for that option and it worked a treat.  It makes no odds to me whether I look at see the details of theses hints within FamilyHistorian or outside so I'm sticking with the changed settings.

You'll find the settings in Internet / Internet Data Matches then simply change the drop down for "Location to Display" to "External Web Browser".  A new tab will then open in your default browser, Chrome in my case.

Hopefully that's the answer to your question!

Jon  


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Re: Sudden closures

Phil Young
 

Mike,
In answer to your questions:
The 50+ records are distributed across several people.
I am going back to the Focus Window and opening hints for each person in turn.
But I close the Web Search Window after dealing with the hints for any particular person, so only ever have one Web Search Window open at any one time.
I haven't tried the External Web Browser option (yet).
At the moment the frequency has been at the level of an occasional inconvenience (easily recovered from) and that happens unpredictably.
Prior to using the Internet Data Matching fairly intensively, I had never experienced the issue.
Best regards,
Phil Young


On 14/03/2020 18:18, Mike Tate wrote:

Phil & Pauline,

Can you please explain in more detail what you are doing.

Are you saying there are 50+ records to review for one person all in the same Web Search Window?

Or are you going back to the Focus Window and opening hints for another person?

I this latter case usually a new Web Search Window is opened so you will be accumulating many open Web Search Windows.

Unless that is you have changed Tools > Preferences > Workspaces to allow re-use of the Web Search Window.

 

Have you tried using the External Web Browser option?

 

If it really is a solid fault then it needs reporting to Calico Pie.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Pauline Parnell
Sent: 14 March 2020 17:12
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Sudden closures

 

Thanks Phil. I’ve been seeing the same thing but hadn’t joined the dots. 

Pauline 

 

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 17:08, Phil Young <phil@...> wrote:

Hi,
I have experienced this problem occasionally.
It only occurs for me when:

  1. the embedded IE web browser window is open,
  2. I have reviewed quite a few Internet data matches (say 50 or more) since last opening FH,
  3. opening of new pages / results seems to slow up and then it crashes

At the time it crashes I am not aware of having requested anything unusual or different.
When I re-open FH everything works fine (until the next time).
I just wonder whether there is a memory leak somewhere?
Just a thought, I have no evidence to support it.
Regards, Phil Young


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Re: Sudden closures

Pauline Parnell
 

That’s pretty much my experience. I get carried away following up collateral lines and then it starts to work more and more slowly until it stops completely. 
Pauline 

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 21:35, Phil Young <phil@...> wrote:
Mike,
In answer to your questions:
The 50+ records are distributed across several people.
I am going back to the Focus Window and opening hints for each person in turn.
But I close the Web Search Window after dealing with the hints for any particular person, so only ever have one Web Search Window open at any one time.
I haven't tried the External Web Browser option (yet).
At the moment the frequency has been at the level of an occasional inconvenience (easily recovered from) and that happens unpredictably.
Prior to using the Internet Data Matching fairly intensively, I had never experienced the issue.
Best regards,
Phil Young


On 14/03/2020 18:18, Mike Tate wrote:

Phil & Pauline,

Can you please explain in more detail what you are doing.

Are you saying there are 50+ records to review for one person all in the same Web Search Window?

Or are you going back to the Focus Window and opening hints for another person?

I this latter case usually a new Web Search Window is opened so you will be accumulating many open Web Search Windows.

Unless that is you have changed Tools > Preferences > Workspaces to allow re-use of the Web Search Window.

 

Have you tried using the External Web Browser option?

 

If it really is a solid fault then it needs reporting to Calico Pie.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Pauline Parnell
Sent: 14 March 2020 17:12
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Sudden closures

 

Thanks Phil. I’ve been seeing the same thing but hadn’t joined the dots. 

Pauline 

 

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 17:08, Phil Young <phil@...> wrote:

Hi,
I have experienced this problem occasionally.
It only occurs for me when:

  1. the embedded IE web browser window is open,
  2. I have reviewed quite a few Internet data matches (say 50 or more) since last opening FH,
  3. opening of new pages / results seems to slow up and then it crashes

At the time it crashes I am not aware of having requested anything unusual or different.
When I re-open FH everything works fine (until the next time).
I just wonder whether there is a memory leak somewhere?
Just a thought, I have no evidence to support it.
Regards, Phil Young


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Re: Trimming My Family Tree In FH

Victor Markham
 

Thank you Lorna and Trevor

It doesn't always give me details but when it does it is excellent much better than FTM.

This is one example of when FH gives details complete with names

Compared to FTM

When FH doesn't give relationship details

FTM does even though it is not direct.

The above are examples. Pity FH doesn't give details

Anyway thanks for mentioning the how related tool

Victor


On 14/03/2020 10:22 am, Lorna Craig via Groups.Io wrote:

Trevor, the Relationship to Root column is a standard column in the Records Window.  There is no need to set it up as a customised column.  However the more remote relationships (for example via in-laws of in-laws) are not shown so it would not help with Victor’s more distant connections.

 

Victor, as Trevor has said, the How Related Tool does exactly what you want.  The results can be displayed either graphically or in report form, and if two people are connected in more than one way it can show up to 9 relationships.

 

Lorna

 

From: Trevor Rix
Sent: 14 March 2020 08:52
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Trimming My Family Tree In FH

 

@Victor

In Family Historian, have you tried using Tools menu > How Related ... ?

Also, in the Records Window it is useful to set up the customised column Relationship To Root.

 


Can I vertically center text in a box?

Peter Ham
 

Hi, i'm trialing this software. It seems pretty good. I already have Family Tree Maker and connect it to ancestry.com

While Family Historian does not connect to ancestry.com, this software seems to do very well for creating family trees and maybe also reports.

I'm looking for advice.

For now, my first question is:

#1 - How do I vertically center text in a box?


Error children

kiwipete
 

Does FH not warn you when you have children that's birth date is earlier than the mothers birthdate.
Was working on my project this morning and found two CHILDREN who was born before the mother was??


Re: Error children

Lorna Craig
 

When you first enter a birth date in FH it will warn you if the date is too early (or too late).  But if you have created a project by importing a Gedcom file which had been created elsewhere and it already contained those errors it will not issue a warning. 

However there is a Plugin written by Mike Tate called Show Project Statistics which can check for many kinds of errors and produces an exception report. It would pick up those impossible dates.

On 14/03/2020 22:31, kiwipete wrote:
Does FH not warn you when you have children that's birth date is earlier than the mothers birthdate.
Was working on my project this morning and found two CHILDREN who was born before the mother was??


Re: Can I vertically center text in a box?

Mike Tate
 

Welcome Peter,

 

I guess you are talking about using Diagram > Insert into Diagram > Text Box ?

Although there is horizontal Alignment: Cantered there is no such vertical setting.

So the only option is to increase Inner Margins at the Top.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of peterrham@...
Sent: 14 March 2020 21:14
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Can I vertically center text in a box?

 

Hi, i'm trialing this software. It seems pretty good. I already have Family Tree Maker and connect it to ancestry.com

While Family Historian does not connect to ancestry.com, this software seems to do very well for creating family trees and maybe also reports.

I'm looking for advice.

For now, my first question is:

#1 - How do I vertically center text in a box?


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Re: Error children

Jane Taubman
 

You can also use the standard Fact Date Warnings Query to view any dates outside your preferences.


Re: Can I vertically center text in a box?

Mike Tate
 

Sorry, that should have said horizontal Alignment: Centred  oops!

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 14 March 2020 23:06
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Can I vertically center text in a box?

 

Welcome Peter,

 

I guess you are talking about using Diagram > Insert into Diagram > Text Box ?

Although there is horizontal Alignment: Cantered there is no such vertical setting.

So the only option is to increase Inner Margins at the Top.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of peterrham@...
Sent: 14 March 2020 21:14
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Can I vertically center text in a box?

 

Hi, i'm trialing this software. It seems pretty good. I already have Family Tree Maker and connect it to ancestry.com

While Family Historian does not connect to ancestry.com, this software seems to do very well for creating family trees and maybe also reports.

I'm looking for advice.

For now, my first question is:

#1 - How do I vertically center text in a box?

 

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Re: Can I vertically center text in a box?

Peter Ham
 

Thanks so much for the quick response!

Actually, i meant to ask if one of the "individual"/person boxes can be centered.
For example:


Re: Trimming My Family Tree In FH

Lorna Craig
 

Victor,

FH offers to display the relationship either graphically or in report form, and I think it is constrained by whether it can display the relationship graphically in a standard diagram.  A link via a marriage can be displayed but the problem with your second example is that, according to FTM,  it involves not one but two links via marriages (a link via someone's sister-in-law and another link via someone's wife). In-laws of in-laws cannot be displayed in a standard FH diagram so the graphic display is not possible.  Unfortunately that means it doesn't produce the report either.

On 14/03/2020 21:07, Victor Markham wrote:

It doesn't always give me details but when it does it is excellent much better than FTM.

This is one example of when FH gives details complete with names

Compared to FTM

When FH doesn't give relationship details

FTM does even though it is not direct.

The above are examples. Pity FH doesn't give details

Anyway thanks for mentioning the how related tool

Victor



Re: Can I vertically center text in a box?

Trevor Rix
 

Here is one method. There may be others?

Diagram Options > Text tab > Edit your text scheme > select an item in the right pane > Edit > select Alignment: Centered. Repeat for the other items in the right pane.


Re: Can I vertically center text in a box?

Mike Tate
 

Thank you for the suggestion Trevor but that aligns horizontally not vertically as requested by Peter.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Trevor Rix
Sent: 15 March 2020 08:11
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Can I vertically center text in a box?

 

Here is one method. There may be others?

Diagram Options > Text tab > Edit your text scheme > select an item in the right pane > Edit > select Alignment: Centered. Repeat for the other items in the right pane.

 


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