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Attach photo's

kevin.davis4@...
 

I am very new to this I managed to attach a photo but I think it was luck.I haven't manged to do another one since.I'm sure it is easy I just a guidance. A step by step guide would be great


Back up software

Victor Markham
 


Re: Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

Victor Markham
 

Also remember when you do a full back up. Delete some previous back ups. Let's say keep about 3. When you come to back up number for delete the earliest one.

Doing a back up doe not replace the previous back up and these back ups take a lot of space far more than images

Victor

On 29/12/2020 3:25 pm, Lorna Craig via groups.io wrote:

Even if you had split your project you would still have the same number of pictures in total, so the total size of the photos in the separate backups would be the same.  

Bear in mind that you don't need to keep a huge number of full backups,  just enough to know that you can restore from a recent backup if something goes wrong with your project.  The most important thing is to have a backup somewhere other than your main computer, so that if the computer fails you still have the backup of your data safe.  Cloud storage is ideal because it is slso also immune to fire/flood/theft from your own property.

Lorna

On 29/12/2020 14:40, Naren Bewtra wrote:

Greetings all,

 

Thank you all for your advice on keeping as single project. I am really impressed and appreciative of the quick and sound advice from the members of this group – unlike other forums. Learning from the experience of the other users is the best advice. So, I will keep as a single project.

 

However, I have a follow-up question which was also the basis for me to split the project. With the photos of so many family members, when I back up file is approaching 1GB primarily due to photos. How do you all manage this? Maybe I should do something different for the photos. Your advice and recommendation will be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks and stay safe

NB



Re: Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

Paul Tanner-Tremaine
 

I have not found an issue with file sizes yet with FH.
My main project on the 1820 settlers to South Africa is taking up 5.15gb (176,000 individuals gedcom alone is 80mb).  My own family project is 2.68gb.  No problems other than sometimes slower to load and longer to generate reports!


Re: Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

Lorna Craig
 

Even if you had split your project you would still have the same number of pictures in total, so the total size of the photos in the separate backups would be the same.  

Bear in mind that you don't need to keep a huge number of full backups,  just enough to know that you can restore from a recent backup if something goes wrong with your project.  The most important thing is to have a backup somewhere other than your main computer, so that if the computer fails you still have the backup of your data safe.  Cloud storage is ideal because it is slso also immune to fire/flood/theft from your own property.

Lorna

On 29/12/2020 14:40, Naren Bewtra wrote:

Greetings all,

 

Thank you all for your advice on keeping as single project. I am really impressed and appreciative of the quick and sound advice from the members of this group – unlike other forums. Learning from the experience of the other users is the best advice. So, I will keep as a single project.

 

However, I have a follow-up question which was also the basis for me to split the project. With the photos of so many family members, when I back up file is approaching 1GB primarily due to photos. How do you all manage this? Maybe I should do something different for the photos. Your advice and recommendation will be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks and stay safe

NB



Re: Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

Mike Tate
 

Don’t worry about it ~ disk space is cheap.

My main Project FH Full Backup is also more than 1GB and mainly media files such as photos and source documents such as BMD Certificates and Census records.

 

There may be no need to backup FH Projects separately anyway.

If you have a sound Windows backup regime for all your sensitive files then why backup FH Projects separately?

Many users employ a combination of local file backups such as Windows File History and cloud storage such as OneDrive, Dropbox, or Google Drive.

 

There is more advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base on Backup and Recovery at:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/backup-and-recovery/

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Naren Bewtra
Sent: 29 December 2020 14:41
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

 

Greetings all,

 

Thank you all for your advice on keeping as single project. I am really impressed and appreciative of the quick and sound advice from the members of this group – unlike other forums. Learning from the experience of the other users is the best advice. So, I will keep as a single project.

 

However, I have a follow-up question which was also the basis for me to split the project. With the photos of so many family members, when I back up file is approaching 1GB primarily due to photos. How do you all manage this? Maybe I should do something different for the photos. Your advice and recommendation will be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks and stay safe

NB

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Horridge via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 6:14 AM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

 

NB

I would also advise against splitting your tree - it's better to keep it as one.

However, if you want to know which side an individual ancestor belongs to, there was a discussion here back in October about identifying the paternal ancestors from the maternal side and Jane Taubman wrote the following to go in a Records window column:-

**************************************************************   Jane's text
You can't colour code,  but something like this as a column should work.

=Text(TextIf(IsTrue(IsRelativeOf(Record(3,"I"),%INDI%)) and IsTrue(RelationCode(Record(3,"I"),%INDI%,SPOUSE_START,1) = 0),"P","") . TextIf(IsTrue(IsRelativeOf(Record(4,"I"),%INDI%)) and IsTrue(RelationCode(Record(4,"I"),%INDI%,SPOUSE_START,1) = 0),"M",""))

Just replace Record(3 and Record(4 with the IDs of your parents).
*************************************************************

You need to set your self as the "Root" person

Brian

On 29/12/2020 01:08, nbewtra@... wrote:

Greetings Everyone,

I am a new user of FH. I created a project MyFamily and started adding members and photos. I have a very LARGE family with some members having 6 to 12 kids. As expected it has become a big project file and is still growing. I would like to keep my father/mother and three generations down of their descendants as one project and spin-off/peel-off already entered data of my father's ancestors/relatives as a separate project and similarly for my mother. I do not want to delete the members in MyFamily and re-enter 50 to 100 entries each in the other two.

Could you guide me how to do that without having to re-type the information in the other project files.

Thanks and be safe.
NB

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

 


Re: Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

Trevor Rix
 

1 Gb is not large in today's terms. It's not a concern. Just continue.


Re: Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

Naren Bewtra
 

Greetings all,

 

Thank you all for your advice on keeping as single project. I am really impressed and appreciative of the quick and sound advice from the members of this group – unlike other forums. Learning from the experience of the other users is the best advice. So, I will keep as a single project.

 

However, I have a follow-up question which was also the basis for me to split the project. With the photos of so many family members, when I back up file is approaching 1GB primarily due to photos. How do you all manage this? Maybe I should do something different for the photos. Your advice and recommendation will be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks and stay safe

NB

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Horridge via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 6:14 AM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

 

NB

I would also advise against splitting your tree - it's better to keep it as one.

However, if you want to know which side an individual ancestor belongs to, there was a discussion here back in October about identifying the paternal ancestors from the maternal side and Jane Taubman wrote the following to go in a Records window column:-

**************************************************************   Jane's text
You can't colour code,  but something like this as a column should work.

=Text(TextIf(IsTrue(IsRelativeOf(Record(3,"I"),%INDI%)) and IsTrue(RelationCode(Record(3,"I"),%INDI%,SPOUSE_START,1) = 0),"P","") . TextIf(IsTrue(IsRelativeOf(Record(4,"I"),%INDI%)) and IsTrue(RelationCode(Record(4,"I"),%INDI%,SPOUSE_START,1) = 0),"M",""))

Just replace Record(3 and Record(4 with the IDs of your parents).
*************************************************************

You need to set your self as the "Root" person

Brian

On 29/12/2020 01:08, nbewtra@... wrote:

Greetings Everyone,

I am a new user of FH. I created a project MyFamily and started adding members and photos. I have a very LARGE family with some members having 6 to 12 kids. As expected it has become a big project file and is still growing. I would like to keep my father/mother and three generations down of their descendants as one project and spin-off/peel-off already entered data of my father's ancestors/relatives as a separate project and similarly for my mother. I do not want to delete the members in MyFamily and re-enter 50 to 100 entries each in the other two.

Could you guide me how to do that without having to re-type the information in the other project files.

Thanks and be safe.
NB

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

 


Re: Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

alan@...
 

I would concur re a single project. This is good advice regardless of which application you use.

 

The larger the tree gets you will be amazed at how many of your one families relatives marry another lines relatives.

 

For example, I recently discovered that some of my relatives from Warrington had converted to Mormon faith in Manchester in the 1830s. They emigrated to the USA and ended up Utah. A similar story exists for some of my wife’s family from Staffordshire. Lo and behold I found a marriage between the two groups of people. Finding the connection and documenting it would have been a nightmare without a single project.

 

This is one of many links between my family and my wife’s I have found and documented in a single tree.

 

Alan

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Grantham via groups.io
Sent: 29 December 2020 11:09
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

 

Hello and Welcome to FH and this group

 

I would echo others urging you to keep everything in one project. FH can easily cope with large numbers of individuals and it is much easier to manage, especially if you wanted to create charts of ancestors - difficult if you split the tree up.

I manage my own and my wife's data all under one project, and it is easy to create reports or diagrams of descendants, ancestors or both and much more, for either side.

 

Best Wishes

 

Neil.






------ Original Message ------
From: nbewtra@...
To: family-historian@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 29 Dec, 2020 At 01:08
Subject: [family-historian] Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

Greetings Everyone,

I am a new user of FH. I created a project MyFamily and started adding members and photos. I have a very LARGE family with some members having 6 to 12 kids. As expected it has become a big project file and is still growing. I would like to keep my father/mother and three generations down of their descendants as one project and spin-off/peel-off already entered data of my father's ancestors/relatives as a separate project and similarly for my mother. I do not want to delete the members in MyFamily and re-enter 50 to 100 entries each in the other two.

Could you guide me how to do that without having to re-type the information in the other project files.

Thanks and be safe.
NB


--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Re: Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

Brian Horridge
 

NB

I would also advise against splitting your tree - it's better to keep it as one.

However, if you want to know which side an individual ancestor belongs to, there was a discussion here back in October about identifying the paternal ancestors from the maternal side and Jane Taubman wrote the following to go in a Records window column:-

**************************************************************   Jane's text
You can't colour code,  but something like this as a column should work.

=Text(TextIf(IsTrue(IsRelativeOf(Record(3,"I"),%INDI%)) and IsTrue(RelationCode(Record(3,"I"),%INDI%,SPOUSE_START,1) = 0),"P","") . TextIf(IsTrue(IsRelativeOf(Record(4,"I"),%INDI%)) and IsTrue(RelationCode(Record(4,"I"),%INDI%,SPOUSE_START,1) = 0),"M",""))

Just replace Record(3 and Record(4 with the IDs of your parents).
*************************************************************

You need to set your self as the "Root" person

Brian


On 29/12/2020 01:08, nbewtra@... wrote:
Greetings Everyone,

I am a new user of FH. I created a project MyFamily and started adding members and photos. I have a very LARGE family with some members having 6 to 12 kids. As expected it has become a big project file and is still growing. I would like to keep my father/mother and three generations down of their descendants as one project and spin-off/peel-off already entered data of my father's ancestors/relatives as a separate project and similarly for my mother. I do not want to delete the members in MyFamily and re-enter 50 to 100 entries each in the other two.

Could you guide me how to do that without having to re-type the information in the other project files.

Thanks and be safe.
NB

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

Neil Grantham
 

Hello and Welcome to FH and this group


I would echo others urging you to keep everything in one project. FH can easily cope with large numbers of individuals and it is much easier to manage, especially if you wanted to create charts of ancestors - difficult if you split the tree up.

I manage my own and my wife's data all under one project, and it is easy to create reports or diagrams of descendants, ancestors or both and much more, for either side.


Best Wishes


Neil.





------ Original Message ------
From: nbewtra@...
To: family-historian@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 29 Dec, 2020 At 01:08
Subject: [family-historian] Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

Greetings Everyone,

I am a new user of FH. I created a project MyFamily and started adding members and photos. I have a very LARGE family with some members having 6 to 12 kids. As expected it has become a big project file and is still growing. I would like to keep my father/mother and three generations down of their descendants as one project and spin-off/peel-off already entered data of my father's ancestors/relatives as a separate project and similarly for my mother. I do not want to delete the members in MyFamily and re-enter 50 to 100 entries each in the other two.

Could you guide me how to do that without having to re-type the information in the other project files.

Thanks and be safe.
NB

--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Re: Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

Victor Markham
 

As Mike says keep everything in one project

I have about 77,000 names on my tree though only about 4,000 are directly related to me.

Lets think about a couple.

The husbands ancestors are not related to the wife. Nor are the wife's ancestors diredtly relaed to the husband. But their children are directley relaed to both sets of ancestors.

There are instances where I have included a cousin of a cousin considering them as a link to me.

One example os a 3rd cousin married a chap who is the son of the Queen Mother's sister (I have a copy of the marriage ceetficate sent to me by the cousins grandfather). In other words he is a 1st cousin of the Queen. Whilst I am not directly related to the Queen the couples children are cousins of both myself and the Queen.

So do keep evrything in one project FH is great in this

Victor

On 29/12/2020 10:07 am, Mike Tate wrote:

Welcome,

I would strongly advise that you keep all your ancestors and descendants in one Project.

Many users have split their trees as in your proposal, and later wished they had not, then had to merge them back together.

Family Historian will happily manage family trees involving many thousands of people.

It also has many search tools and graphical aids to focus on any part of your tree.

You seem to be talking about only a few hundred people which is tiny compared to many users trees.

Please persist with a single Project, because you are a newcomer and maybe have not yet discovered all the tools to help your manage a large tree.

If you still wish to split your tree, that can easily be done at a later date.

 

Happy New Year, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of nbewtra@...
Sent: 29 December 2020 01:08
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

 

Greetings Everyone,

I am a new user of FH. I created a project MyFamily and started adding members and photos. I have a very LARGE family with some members having 6 to 12 kids. As expected it has become a big project file and is still growing. I would like to keep my father/mother and three generations down of their descendants as one project and spin-off/peel-off already entered data of my father's ancestors/relatives as a separate project and similarly for my mother. I do not want to delete the members in MyFamily and re-enter 50 to 100 entries each in the other two.

Could you guide me how to do that without having to re-type the information in the other project files.

Thanks and be safe.
NB


Re: Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

Mike Tate
 

Welcome,

I would strongly advise that you keep all your ancestors and descendants in one Project.

Many users have split their trees as in your proposal, and later wished they had not, then had to merge them back together.

Family Historian will happily manage family trees involving many thousands of people.

It also has many search tools and graphical aids to focus on any part of your tree.

You seem to be talking about only a few hundred people which is tiny compared to many users trees.

Please persist with a single Project, because you are a newcomer and maybe have not yet discovered all the tools to help your manage a large tree.

If you still wish to split your tree, that can easily be done at a later date.

 

Happy New Year, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of nbewtra@...
Sent: 29 December 2020 01:08
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

 

Greetings Everyone,

I am a new user of FH. I created a project MyFamily and started adding members and photos. I have a very LARGE family with some members having 6 to 12 kids. As expected it has become a big project file and is still growing. I would like to keep my father/mother and three generations down of their descendants as one project and spin-off/peel-off already entered data of my father's ancestors/relatives as a separate project and similarly for my mother. I do not want to delete the members in MyFamily and re-enter 50 to 100 entries each in the other two.

Could you guide me how to do that without having to re-type the information in the other project files.

Thanks and be safe.
NB


Re: Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

Trevor Rix
 

I would strongly advise you not to split your project unless you have an extremely good reason for doing so. The capacity of Family Historian is huge and you can work on one family/branch within a project at a time, no problem.


Re: Installing on new computer

Mike Tate
 

Hi Yasmin,

You only need your FH V5 installation CD and the upgrade licence keys for FH V4 and FH V5.

When you install from the CD it will ask for both the V5 and V4 licence keys.

The V4 licence key should be on a label or the Quick Start Guide in the V4 box set.

Happy New Year, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Yasmin Gibbins
Sent: 26 December 2020 16:14
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Installing on new computer

 

Good Afternoon

I am hoping someone can help me. I have brought a new computer and cannot seem to install Family Historian. I have all the discs back to version 2.1.6 and the upgrade discs to version 4 and also the upgrade key for version 5. I only use up to version 5.

I thought I had to start at version 2.1.6 and install them all upgrading as I went however when I put the first disc in I get the following message. Can anyone advise me if there is a work round for this or do I need to purchase a complete new program.

Due to circumstances I haven’t looked at my Family History for a couple of years but following my mothers death this year I decided to start researching again.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Yasmin

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: V7 Sample project still showing MUNROs - reset not working

Brian Lummis
 

If you look further down in that topic you will see that I subsequently discovered that I had been looking at the wrong file! The Munro file is the correct sample.

Brian

After reading Publishing report - Family Historian User Group (fhug.org.uk) and brianlummis comment that the sample project no longer contains the Munros 


Split Large Project file into three separate Project files

Naren Bewtra
 

Greetings Everyone,

I am a new user of FH. I created a project MyFamily and started adding members and photos. I have a very LARGE family with some members having 6 to 12 kids. As expected it has become a big project file and is still growing. I would like to keep my father/mother and three generations down of their descendants as one project and spin-off/peel-off already entered data of my father's ancestors/relatives as a separate project and similarly for my mother. I do not want to delete the members in MyFamily and re-enter 50 to 100 entries each in the other two.

Could you guide me how to do that without having to re-type the information in the other project files.

Thanks and be safe.
NB


V7 Sample project still showing MUNROs - reset not working

Linda Ferguson
 

After reading Publishing report - Family Historian User Group (fhug.org.uk) and brianlummis comment that the sample project no longer contains the Munros I looked at my upgraded by download (from v6)  v7.

 

I still have the Munros. I have tried resetting the sample project as Mike explains but like LornaCraig it has had no effect.

I even tried deleting the sample project but the Munros version was reinstated

 

So it looks ok here but when I open in FH it is still the Munros!

 

Any other suggestions on how to get the new sample project as I would like to experiment with that?

 

Many thanks

 

Linda Ferguson


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Debug Log causing issues with FH7 Backup

David Potter
 

Hi All

 

Can anyone please throw some light as to the entries in the FH7 log file? I get an occasional error where the backup can’t continue because of this file or maybe the entries within it.

 

I have attached the log file. And a screen shot of the error.

 

Thank you.


Find Census Age Issues

David Potter
 

Hi All. Hoping you all had a Merry and Peaceful Christmas.

Can anyone suggest how best to find Census Age errors. After correcting the Birth year based on an incorrect Census Calculated birth year (basically I had transcribed the Census Age incorrectly), I overlooked to correct the corresponding Census age. Is there a way to locate these types of error. See Image.

Thank You

David

1861 - 1880 of 4201