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locked Ancestry discount

Cathy Roberts
 

Resurrecting this thread again - does anyone know if the link for a 50% discount still works? I have tried clicking the link & then signing in and also tried signing in & then clicking the link, as I wasn't sure which order was correct but neither seemed to work. Also they are only advertising monthly & 6 monthly - I had great difficulty finding how to do an annual sub.
Cathy

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Chart defaults

Mike Tate
 

I would argue that Flags are more of a nuisance because you must arrange to set the Flag as well as add the Census Event.

The expression technique is driven directly by the Census Event (and Source Citation) so Flags are totally unnecessary.

Just add the Census Event (and Source Citation) and the Icon appears on the Diagrams.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of fh@...
Sent: 21 March 2022 17:26
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Chart defaults

 

Oh, and it's V7. 
I don't use the =IsTrue(%INDI.CENS[year=1841].SOUR>_TYPE% = "Census") method - Flags are so much easier!
Ian


Re: Chart defaults

Mike Tate
 

It is still wise to save a Custom Diagram Type so that if the core Diagram settings get upset you can open the Custom Diagram Type and set that as the core defaults.

 

In addition, use the ‘Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings’ plugin that protects all your customisations.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of fh@...
Sent: 21 March 2022 17:24
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Chart defaults

 

Mike
Thank you for the very helpful clarification - That will save a good bit of duplication!
Ian


Re: Chart defaults

fh@...
 

Oh, and it's V7. 
I don't use the =IsTrue(%INDI.CENS[year=1841].SOUR>_TYPE% = "Census") method - Flags are so much easier!
Ian


Re: Chart defaults

Neil Grantham
 

Ah thanks Mike.


I only tend to use the standard charts


Best Wishes

Neil

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From: Mike Tate
Sent: Mar 21, 2022 at 4:59 PM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Chart defaults

Neil, it only works for you because you are using the four core Diagram styles:

Ancestors, Descendants, Ancestors & Descendants, and All Relatives.

 

I suspect the icons you are using are the Number Labels that are only built into FH V7.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Grantham via groups.io
Sent: 21 March 2022 16:35
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Chart defaults

 

Ian,

 

Yes you can do this.

I have followed others advice, when in a diagram, go to Diagram>Options>Boxes

I have a condition for each Census with an expression such as:

=IsTrue(%INDI.CENS[year=1841].SOUR>_TYPE% = "Census")

From 1841 to 1921 and also 1939

For each condition, select it then click on 'Edit Features', tick the 'Icon' box and select an appropriate icon - I use the built in ones (I think they are built in?) that look like baggage tags with a number on, so for 1841 it is 41 etc

These will show on all Diagrams you open

 

Best Wishes

 

Neil.






------ Original Message ------
From: fh@...
To: family-historian@groups.io
Sent: Monday, 21 Mar, 2022 At 16:25
Subject: [family-historian] Chart defaults

I laboriously set up icons for each UK census to appear on an Everyone chart (Boxes/add condition), and carefully clicked through the 'Set as defaults' dialogue.
Closed chart. On opening an Everyone chart next time, no icons/no conditions. Having RTFMd, I now see that I should have "save[d] a configuration of the Diagram Window as a new diagram type, by clicking on Save Diagram As… on the File menu, and then selecting Custom Diagram Type." And later opened that saved chart if I wanted Everyone with census icons.

But. But I would like the same icons/conditions, etc., to apply on other charts (say, all relatives, Ancestors, etc.). Do I have to go through the whole setup for each type of chart I wish to use?

Is there no way of saving a global set of conditions or preferences for charts?

And, as an aside, when is a Saved Chart a Custom Diagram, or vice versa?

Ian


--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.



--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Re: Chart defaults

fh@...
 

Mike
Thank you for the very helpful clarification - That will save a good bit of duplication!
Ian


Re: Chart defaults

Mike Tate
 

Neil, it only works for you because you are using the four core Diagram styles:

Ancestors, Descendants, Ancestors & Descendants, and All Relatives.

 

I suspect the icons you are using are the Number Labels that are only built into FH V7.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Grantham via groups.io
Sent: 21 March 2022 16:35
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Chart defaults

 

Ian,

 

Yes you can do this.

I have followed others advice, when in a diagram, go to Diagram>Options>Boxes

I have a condition for each Census with an expression such as:

=IsTrue(%INDI.CENS[year=1841].SOUR>_TYPE% = "Census")

From 1841 to 1921 and also 1939

For each condition, select it then click on 'Edit Features', tick the 'Icon' box and select an appropriate icon - I use the built in ones (I think they are built in?) that look like baggage tags with a number on, so for 1841 it is 41 etc

These will show on all Diagrams you open

 

Best Wishes

 

Neil.






------ Original Message ------
From: fh@...
To: family-historian@groups.io
Sent: Monday, 21 Mar, 2022 At 16:25
Subject: [family-historian] Chart defaults

I laboriously set up icons for each UK census to appear on an Everyone chart (Boxes/add condition), and carefully clicked through the 'Set as defaults' dialogue.
Closed chart. On opening an Everyone chart next time, no icons/no conditions. Having RTFMd, I now see that I should have "save[d] a configuration of the Diagram Window as a new diagram type, by clicking on Save Diagram As… on the File menu, and then selecting Custom Diagram Type." And later opened that saved chart if I wanted Everyone with census icons.

But. But I would like the same icons/conditions, etc., to apply on other charts (say, all relatives, Ancestors, etc.). Do I have to go through the whole setup for each type of chart I wish to use?

Is there no way of saving a global set of conditions or preferences for charts?

And, as an aside, when is a Saved Chart a Custom Diagram, or vice versa?

Ian


--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Re: Chart defaults

Mike Tate
 

Hi Ian,

Sorry, but the answer is a bit long-winded.

BTW: It helps us if you tell us which FH version you are using. I suspect FH V6?

 

In general, the Diagram > Save Diagram As… > Custom Diagram Type… command is necessary for each style of Diagram.

There are no global settings except for the core Diagrams as explained below.

 

However, the core Diagrams: Ancestors, Descendants, Ancestors & Descendants, and All Relatives share the same settings.

So once you have customised the Boxes tab Conditions for one of those they are all customised the same way.

 

Custom Diagram Types essentially save just the Diagram > Options… settings and I think inserted boxes and pictures.

 

Family Historian Charts save everything: settings, inserted trees, boxes & pictures, tree root individuals/families, resized & repositioned boxes, etc.

However, these charts are not ‘frozen’ and if relevant new Individuals or new Facts are added to your Project then the chart will get updated.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of fh@...
Sent: 21 March 2022 16:25
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Chart defaults

 

I laboriously set up icons for each UK census to appear on an Everyone chart (Boxes/add condition), and carefully clicked through the 'Set as defaults' dialogue.
Closed chart. On opening an Everyone chart next time, no icons/no conditions. Having RTFMd, I now see that I should have "save[d] a configuration of the Diagram Window as a new diagram type, by clicking on Save Diagram As… on the File menu, and then selecting Custom Diagram Type."  And later opened that saved chart if I wanted Everyone with census icons.

But.  But I would like the same icons/conditions, etc., to apply on other charts (say, all relatives, Ancestors, etc.). Do I have to go through the whole setup for each  type of chart I wish to use?

Is there no way of saving a global set of conditions or preferences for charts?

And, as an aside, when is a Saved Chart a Custom Diagram, or vice versa?

Ian


Re: Chart defaults

Neil Grantham
 

Ian,


Yes you can do this.

I have followed others advice, when in a diagram, go to Diagram>Options>Boxes

I have a condition for each Census with an expression such as:

=IsTrue(%INDI.CENS[year=1841].SOUR>_TYPE% = "Census")

From 1841 to 1921 and also 1939

For each condition, select it then click on 'Edit Features', tick the 'Icon' box and select an appropriate icon - I use the built in ones (I think they are built in?) that look like baggage tags with a number on, so for 1841 it is 41 etc

These will show on all Diagrams you open


Best Wishes


Neil.





------ Original Message ------
From: fh@...
To: family-historian@groups.io
Sent: Monday, 21 Mar, 2022 At 16:25
Subject: [family-historian] Chart defaults

I laboriously set up icons for each UK census to appear on an Everyone chart (Boxes/add condition), and carefully clicked through the 'Set as defaults' dialogue.
Closed chart. On opening an Everyone chart next time, no icons/no conditions. Having RTFMd, I now see that I should have "save[d] a configuration of the Diagram Window as a new diagram type, by clicking on Save Diagram As… on the File menu, and then selecting Custom Diagram Type." And later opened that saved chart if I wanted Everyone with census icons.

But. But I would like the same icons/conditions, etc., to apply on other charts (say, all relatives, Ancestors, etc.). Do I have to go through the whole setup for each type of chart I wish to use?

Is there no way of saving a global set of conditions or preferences for charts?

And, as an aside, when is a Saved Chart a Custom Diagram, or vice versa?

Ian

--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Chart defaults

fh@...
 

I laboriously set up icons for each UK census to appear on an Everyone chart (Boxes/add condition), and carefully clicked through the 'Set as defaults' dialogue.
Closed chart. On opening an Everyone chart next time, no icons/no conditions. Having RTFMd, I now see that I should have "save[d] a configuration of the Diagram Window as a new diagram type, by clicking on Save Diagram As… on the File menu, and then selecting Custom Diagram Type."  And later opened that saved chart if I wanted Everyone with census icons.

But.  But I would like the same icons/conditions, etc., to apply on other charts (say, all relatives, Ancestors, etc.). Do I have to go through the whole setup for each  type of chart I wish to use?

Is there no way of saving a global set of conditions or preferences for charts?

And, as an aside, when is a Saved Chart a Custom Diagram, or vice versa?

Ian


Re: Help with finding links to source

Mike Tate
 

I’m glad you like FH.

On the FH website there is a Contact Us page https://www.family-historian.co.uk/contact

There is a Facebook FH page you can post on https://www.facebook.com/Family-Historian-363586523803655/

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Forget
Sent: 19 March 2022 23:57
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Help with finding links to source

 

Hello Mike,

I have FH V& so the View > Citations to Source Record is exactly what I need.

Thank you so much for pointing it out.

I switched from RM to FH based on the reviews I saw and I am so glad I did.

I didn’t see a reviews section on the FH website but if there is a way to tell the developers what an outstanding job they have dome in making database reports and screens so easy to use, please let me know.

Gary

 


Re: Help with finding links to source

Gary Forget
 

Hello Mike,

I have FH V& so the View > Citations to Source Record is exactly what I need.

Thank you so much for pointing it out.

I switched from RM to FH based on the reviews I saw and I am so glad I did.

I didn’t see a reviews section on the FH website but if there is a way to tell the developers what an outstanding job they have dome in making database reports and screens so easy to use, please let me know.

Gary

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Mike Tate
Sent: March 19, 2022 2:53 AM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Help with finding links to source

 

Hi Gary,

There are several ways to discover the Citations linked to a Source record.

See the FHUG Knowledge Base ‘Finding Records Linked to a Source’

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/finding-records-linked-to-a-source/

 

After selecting the Source record as you have done, use one of the following:

In FH V7 use View > Citations to Source Record…

In any FH use View > Record Links…

In FH V5 or later use either of the Plugins:

            List All Citations for a Selected Source

            Where Used Record Links

There is also a Query download to find Fact Citations at:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/download/facts-linked-to-a-source-3/

 

Mike Tate

 

 


Re: Help with finding links to source

Mike Tate
 

Hi Gary,

There are several ways to discover the Citations linked to a Source record.

See the FHUG Knowledge Base ‘Finding Records Linked to a Source’

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/finding-records-linked-to-a-source/

 

After selecting the Source record as you have done, use one of the following:

In FH V7 use View > Citations to Source Record…

In any FH use View > Record Links…

In FH V5 or later use either of the Plugins:

            List All Citations for a Selected Source

            Where Used Record Links

There is also a Query download to find Fact Citations at:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/download/facts-linked-to-a-source-3/

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: Help with finding links to source

Adrian Bruce
 

Please see the response to your query in the FH User Group on https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=20461&p=123060#p123060

Just as a matter of protocol and practicality, it's seldom a good idea to post the same question at the same time in both the mailing list and the user group as so many of us are in both places. Also, in practical terms, although it's not at all obvious, posting images in this mailing list is a slow process as they need to be moderated - the FHUG doesn't have that restriction. 


Re: Help with finding links to source

John Hanson
 

Have you checked all the events relating to that place

 

Also it is useful before you import a gedcom file into your project to import it into a new empty file and run a few quick checks before you do the main import

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

 

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Forget
Sent: 18 March 2022 22:18
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Help with finding links to source

 

Hello, I’m at a loss at to what to do with this result set being empty.

In the first screen shot (sources to links) you can see that the fifth column says there is a link to one record. My assumption is that link is to an individual…

 

For 99% of the sources in my database (most imported from gedcoms from other researchers) clicking on Query  to individuals linked to source gives me the name or names of individuals in my db.

However in one percent of the queries I get no individual names, as in this instance – last screen shot Individuals linked to source.

 

Am I out of luck because the original source citation wasn’t linked to an individual or is my newbie status as an FH user showing my naivete in finding and using an alternate way of finding the source link to an individual in my db?

 

Thanks!

Gary

 


Help with finding links to source

Gary Forget
 

Hello, I’m at a loss at to what to do with this result set being empty.

In the first screen shot (sources to links) you can see that the fifth column says there is a link to one record. My assumption is that link is to an individual…

 

For 99% of the sources in my database (most imported from gedcoms from other researchers) clicking on Query  to individuals linked to source gives me the name or names of individuals in my db.

However in one percent of the queries I get no individual names, as in this instance – last screen shot Individuals linked to source.

 

Am I out of luck because the original source citation wasn’t linked to an individual or is my newbie status as an FH user showing my naivete in finding and using an alternate way of finding the source link to an individual in my db?

 

Thanks!

Gary

 


Re: Backup and restore plugin

Mike Tate
 

You at least need to summarise the problem so those who have not seen this posting understand.

You can include a cross-reference link to this posting using https://groups.io/g/family-historian/topic/89797708

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rhoda A Murray
Sent: 16 March 2022 13:23
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Backup and restore plugin

 

Yes I Have a FHUG account and have now opened it.

Do I need  start a new topic in order to continue this thread?

 


Re: Backup and restore plugin

Vyger
 

Rhoda, I can't see your images in detail on my phone but going by your original post and som comments about nested folders be aware there was a folder length limitation of 256 characters which would start counting at c:\

If you are just wanting to backup to Dropbox I cover this at the end of my video below. If working between laptop and other computer you could simply restore from the local folders Dropbox creates on your computer.

Hope this helps



On Wed, 16 Mar 2022, 13:34 Rhoda A Murray, <rhodaamurray@...> wrote:

Yes I Have a FHUG account and have now opened it.

Do I need  start a new topic in order to continue this thread?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Mike Tate
Sent: 16 March 2022 12:58
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Backup and restore plugin

 

Rhoda, do you have an FHUG Forum account at https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/

Screenshots are higher resolution there and are instantly available.

Whereas here the resolution is so low they are almost unreadable and administrators must review them which introduces a significant delay.

 

I am surprised you having difficulties with Windows 11 because it is almost identical to Windows 10.

Is it the new command ribbon at the top of Windows File Explorer that is the problem?

 

Certainly, the multiple nested Family Historian Projects folders are not good.

But even your USB stick has them so must have been created in Windows 10.

 

We need to work through each step you have taken on the old Windows 10 PC and the new Windows 11 PC for both Projects and the Backup and Restore FH Settings plugin. That will be so much easier in the FHUG Forum.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rhoda A Murray
Sent: 16 March 2022 12:00
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Backup and restore plugin

 

Thank you for your replies.

The source for my data is my PC which runs on Windows 10.

The target  is a new laptop which runs on Windows 11 (I didn't realise this until I had brought it home!)

I am using the latest version of FH on both machines (V7.0.11)

I have read: Family Historian Copy and Migration Guide and Backup and restore Family Historian Settings FAQ. and have tried to follow the instructions but have clearly made mistakes.

I have used the  "Backup and Restore"  Plugin to back up the source data on Googledrive and  on a USB  stick. You can see the pathway for the latter in the screenshot below.

On the target laptop I have installed FH, opened  "Backup and Restore" in the FH Sample Project, ticked "Allow Registry Data" in the Options tab and then run Restore.  It is then that I have received the message about the destination path being too long.

Following MikeP's response to my query I have looked closely at the file name and can see that it has the same path repeated several times. (see below) I don't understand how this has happened unless it is because I have tried to restore the data several times.

I have tried to rename the file by deleting the repeated pathways but the process is not the same as on Windows 10 and although I have looked on the internet for ways of doing this I haven't managed to achieve this.

Mike P suggested accessing the directory but I don’t know how to do this.

As you can see I am not confident with computers and am wary of deleting anything in case I make things worse.  

Thank you for your time,

Rhoda

 


Re: Backup and restore plugin

Rhoda A Murray
 

Yes I Have a FHUG account and have now opened it.

Do I need  start a new topic in order to continue this thread?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Mike Tate
Sent: 16 March 2022 12:58
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Backup and restore plugin

 

Rhoda, do you have an FHUG Forum account at https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/

Screenshots are higher resolution there and are instantly available.

Whereas here the resolution is so low they are almost unreadable and administrators must review them which introduces a significant delay.

 

I am surprised you having difficulties with Windows 11 because it is almost identical to Windows 10.

Is it the new command ribbon at the top of Windows File Explorer that is the problem?

 

Certainly, the multiple nested Family Historian Projects folders are not good.

But even your USB stick has them so must have been created in Windows 10.

 

We need to work through each step you have taken on the old Windows 10 PC and the new Windows 11 PC for both Projects and the Backup and Restore FH Settings plugin. That will be so much easier in the FHUG Forum.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rhoda A Murray
Sent: 16 March 2022 12:00
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Backup and restore plugin

 

Thank you for your replies.

The source for my data is my PC which runs on Windows 10.

The target  is a new laptop which runs on Windows 11 (I didn't realise this until I had brought it home!)

I am using the latest version of FH on both machines (V7.0.11)

I have read: Family Historian Copy and Migration Guide and Backup and restore Family Historian Settings FAQ. and have tried to follow the instructions but have clearly made mistakes.

I have used the  "Backup and Restore"  Plugin to back up the source data on Googledrive and  on a USB  stick. You can see the pathway for the latter in the screenshot below.

On the target laptop I have installed FH, opened  "Backup and Restore" in the FH Sample Project, ticked "Allow Registry Data" in the Options tab and then run Restore.  It is then that I have received the message about the destination path being too long.

Following MikeP's response to my query I have looked closely at the file name and can see that it has the same path repeated several times. (see below) I don't understand how this has happened unless it is because I have tried to restore the data several times.

I have tried to rename the file by deleting the repeated pathways but the process is not the same as on Windows 10 and although I have looked on the internet for ways of doing this I haven't managed to achieve this.

Mike P suggested accessing the directory but I don’t know how to do this.

As you can see I am not confident with computers and am wary of deleting anything in case I make things worse.  

Thank you for your time,

Rhoda

 


Re: Backup and restore plugin

Mike Tate
 

Rhoda, do you have an FHUG Forum account at https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/

Screenshots are higher resolution there and are instantly available.

Whereas here the resolution is so low they are almost unreadable and administrators must review them which introduces a significant delay.

 

I am surprised you having difficulties with Windows 11 because it is almost identical to Windows 10.

Is it the new command ribbon at the top of Windows File Explorer that is the problem?

 

Certainly, the multiple nested Family Historian Projects folders are not good.

But even your USB stick has them so must have been created in Windows 10.

 

We need to work through each step you have taken on the old Windows 10 PC and the new Windows 11 PC for both Projects and the Backup and Restore FH Settings plugin. That will be so much easier in the FHUG Forum.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rhoda A Murray
Sent: 16 March 2022 12:00
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Backup and restore plugin

 

Thank you for your replies.

The source for my data is my PC which runs on Windows 10.

The target  is a new laptop which runs on Windows 11 (I didn't realise this until I had brought it home!)

I am using the latest version of FH on both machines (V7.0.11)

I have read: Family Historian Copy and Migration Guide and Backup and restore Family Historian Settings FAQ. and have tried to follow the instructions but have clearly made mistakes.

I have used the  "Backup and Restore"  Plugin to back up the source data on Googledrive and  on a USB  stick. You can see the pathway for the latter in the screenshot below.

On the target laptop I have installed FH, opened  "Backup and Restore" in the FH Sample Project, ticked "Allow Registry Data" in the Options tab and then run Restore.  It is then that I have received the message about the destination path being too long.

Following MikeP's response to my query I have looked closely at the file name and can see that it has the same path repeated several times. (see below) I don't understand how this has happened unless it is because I have tried to restore the data several times.

I have tried to rename the file by deleting the repeated pathways but the process is not the same as on Windows 10 and although I have looked on the internet for ways of doing this I haven't managed to achieve this.

Mike P suggested accessing the directory but I don’t know how to do this.

As you can see I am not confident with computers and am wary of deleting anything in case I make things worse.  

Thank you for your time,

Rhoda