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Re: Internet data matches - FMP login box inactive

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

FMP has been warning for some time that they were going to cease support for IE11, so I suspect they ceased it between then and now.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Lesley Lambourne
Sent: 23 September 2021 17:14
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Internet data matches - FMP login box inactive

 

And bingo it seems to work (after restarting FH). Thank you!

I'm unclear however why that has become a problem in the last day or so, because it was certainly working last week!

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Re: Internet data matches - FMP login box inactive

Lesley Lambourne
 

And bingo it seems to work (after restarting FH). Thank you!

I'm unclear however why that has become a problem in the last day or so, because it was certainly working last week!


Re: Internet data matches - FMP login box inactive

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

Are you using the internal web-browser within FH6? If so, that is IE 11 and no longer works with FMP or many other sites, and you will have to modify your preferences to switch to using an external browser.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Lesley Lambourne
Sent: 23 September 2021 16:56
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Internet data matches - FMP login box inactive

 

I'm using v 6.2.7 and Edge browser. and Windows is all patched up to date (last updated on Tues)

Data matches are working, but when I come to Review, I am unable to see the record and it expects me to log into FMP. This I can't do -  or even get my cursor into the "Email" box to enter my credentials. It's displaying the message across the top saying I'm using unsupported IE 11, when I'm definitely using Edge. I can't click on the X to close that message box either
I have no problem with using FMP independently

Any thought on how can I fix it?

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Internet data matches - FMP login box inactive

Lesley Lambourne
 

I'm using v 6.2.7 and Edge browser. and Windows is all patched up to date (last updated on Tues)

Data matches are working, but when I come to Review, I am unable to see the record and it expects me to log into FMP. This I can't do -  or even get my cursor into the "Email" box to enter my credentials. It's displaying the message across the top saying I'm using unsupported IE 11, when I'm definitely using Edge. I can't click on the X to close that message box either
I have no problem with using FMP independently

Any thought on how can I fix it?


Re: Translating charts

jerebinho@...
 

Thanks for all the instructions. I've managed to modify everything I needed in the plugin. Works like a charm!
Thanks again.


Re: Fact Type corrections

Mike Tate
 

Again, the Search and Replace plugin only operates on database items, not customization details such as Fact Set definitions.

 

The only case where Sentence templates could be affected by that plugin is if the Facts tab has a specific local Sentence template instead of using the global Tools > Fact Types… definitions. However, it is only worth using the plugin if there is a significant quantity of such cases.

 

So, either manually edit each specific local Sentence box template where that problem arises, or in Tools > Fact Types… edit each Fact definition where the Sentence Template suffers the problem. You will probably need to review each Sentence Template imported from TMG anyway because it is not a perfect process. However, you are planning to delete many of those imported TMG (project) Fact Set definitions, so that might cure some <CR> <br> problems anyway.

 

If you still need advice about using Search and Replace to correct specific local Sentence templates then please ask again.

 

 


Re: Fact Type corrections

John Hanson
 

Mike

Thanks – my aged brain again!!

Yes using 7.0.8 and 3.4

 

Makes sense and will go sort out the way you describe.

 

just discovered another which I seem to remember being discussed before but can’t find it

 

Relates to a a sentence in TMG that starts with a <CR> code and gets converted to $!?&<br> by FH

 

I would have thought that the search/replace plugin might be able to sort it out but can’t get my head around it or can you point me in the direction of a fix

 

Regards

John

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 21 September 2021 10:26
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Fact Type corrections

 

Hi John,

Please confirm you are using FH v7.0.8 and Change Any Fact Tag plugin v3.4.

 

I think you misunderstand the purpose of the Change Any Fact Tag plugin.

It is intended to change the GEDCOM Tag of actual Facts in your database.

It has nothing to do with changing the Tools > Fact Types… definitions that specify how those database Facts are displayed.

 

The TMG (project) Fact Set imports the TMG Master Tag Type List definitions and they override the Standard Fact Set.

 

So if you want the imported Birth events to use the Standard Fact Set definition you simply delete the TMG (project) definition for Birth.

i.e.

Use Tools > Fact Types… and at the top select Fact Set: TMG (project) which is crucial.

Select the Birth event, and hold down the Ctrl key to also select other events, then click the Delete key and acknowledge the warning.

 

Now there is no TMG (project) Fact definition for those deleted definitions, so the actual Facts will use the Standard Fact Set just like your other Projects.

 

BTW: You may have identified a flaw in the Change Any Fact Tag plugin regarding the Source Tag Set: TMG (project) that I shall investigate.

However, it does not prevent it from changing any database Fact Tags as there is a simple workaround.

 

FYI: I am currently in discussion with CP regarding Fact import problems for TMG that they have not perfected in my opinion.

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: Fact Type corrections

Mike Tate
 

Hi John,

Please confirm you are using FH v7.0.8 and Change Any Fact Tag plugin v3.4.

 

I think you misunderstand the purpose of the Change Any Fact Tag plugin.

It is intended to change the GEDCOM Tag of actual Facts in your database.

It has nothing to do with changing the Tools > Fact Types… definitions that specify how those database Facts are displayed.

 

The TMG (project) Fact Set imports the TMG Master Tag Type List definitions and they override the Standard Fact Set.

 

So if you want the imported Birth events to use the Standard Fact Set definition you simply delete the TMG (project) definition for Birth.

i.e.

Use Tools > Fact Types… and at the top select Fact Set: TMG (project) which is crucial.

Select the Birth event, and hold down the Ctrl key to also select other events, then click the Delete key and acknowledge the warning.

 

Now there is no TMG (project) Fact definition for those deleted definitions, so the actual Facts will use the Standard Fact Set just like your other Projects.

 

BTW: You may have identified a flaw in the Change Any Fact Tag plugin regarding the Source Tag Set: TMG (project) that I shall investigate.

However, it does not prevent it from changing any database Fact Tags as there is a simple workaround.

 

FYI: I am currently in discussion with CP regarding Fact import problems for TMG that they have not perfected in my opinion.

 

Mike Tate

 


Fact Type corrections

John Hanson
 

I have imported a database from TMG into FH7 and now have an issue in trying to amend some of the fact types

 

The import creates a sets if facts in a fact set called “TMG Project” and using “Fact types” within the Tools menu item shows a long list of facts including birth, baptism, etc

 

Now I am happy to change these to the standard fact with those name so should be able to use the Plugin “Change any fact tag”

 

However when I select the “Source Tag set” as TMG Project it does not show these

 

This is not the first TMG project that I have imported and use the previous one (much smaller) as a test bed to make sure all would work OK

 

How can I get round the issue?

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

 

 


Re: Reports without colored lines to show multiple relationships

Michael Thomas
 

Mike

Very occupied for the next few weeks so the old report will have to wait.

It seems that I have a lot to learn about the latest FH version and perhaps what I want is already there. Thanks for remembering.

Mike

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 20 September 2021 18:10
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Reports without colored lines to show multiple relationships

 

Just to be clear, in FH terms, these are Diagram charts and not Reports (which are just textual).

It is not possible to get FH to produce such Diagrams with common ancestors merged into one.

In the general case, there may be multiple common ancestors where that would not be possible.

The coloured ribbons can be suppressed, but that is all.

 

It might be possible to manually adjust the boxes on an FH Diagram to merge the common ancestor, but won’t be easy.

 

(Michael, I remember your question about Narrative Reports but you have not produced the old report from FH3 that you promised.)

 


Re: Translating charts

Mike Tate
 

I am learning about Language Packs as fast as you.

 

Changing the Date Format works in the default English version of Text Schemes but has no effect (except for Year) when a different Output Language is chosen.

The explanation is that the Date formatting is performed by the Language Pack Plugin and the default plugin ignores the Date Format qualifiers.

I will ask CP if that can be improved.

 

It is also the Language Pack Plugin that determines the translation of words such as ‘between’, ‘and’, ‘from’ & ‘to’ in Dates.

 

Use Tools > Language Packs… select Slovenian and click Plugin… to edit the plugin script where every << TODO marker appears.

e.g.

sHusband = '(no name)';            -- << TODO       Replace (no name) with the Slovenian equivalent words.

sText = "between " .. GetDatePtText(date:GetDatePt1(), "", "") .. " and " .. GetDatePtText(date:GetDatePt2(), "", "");            -- << TODO       Replace "between " and " and " with the Slovenian equivalent words.

 

You can also force the dd.mm.yyyy format in this plugin.

Near line number 630 you will find: function GetDatePtText(datept, sPrefix1, sPrefix2)

That needs these subsequent two lines to be replaced at about line numbers 642 and 646:

sDay = iDay .. ' ';                                   becomes          sDay = iDay .. '.';

sMonth = g_months[iMonth] .. ' ';            becomes          sMonth = iMonth .. '.';

 

Be very careful not to change the layout of the script, especially the symbols, otherwise it won’t work.

As the Help advises, save a plain text copy of the plugin script file as a backup just in case.

 


Re: Translating charts

jerebinho@...
 

Thanks for the instructions. Worked great. I've managed to use the same analogy for marriage and death.
I still have issues with the date format. For some reason the format remains unchanged irregardless what I pick. It is always in the format "on 26 August 1733" for instance, except if I use format "year", which then displays "1733".
Where/how can I translate words "between" and "and" in case birth date is displayed as "between 1748 and 1750"?


Re: Reports without colored lines to show multiple relationships

Mike Tate
 

Just to be clear, in FH terms, these are Diagram charts and not Reports (which are just textual).

It is not possible to get FH to produce such Diagrams with common ancestors merged into one.

In the general case, there may be multiple common ancestors where that would not be possible.

The coloured ribbons can be suppressed, but that is all.

 

It might be possible to manually adjust the boxes on an FH Diagram to merge the common ancestor, but won’t be easy.

 

(Michael, I remember your question about Narrative Reports but you have not produced the old report from FH3 that you promised.)

 


Re: Reports without colored lines to show multiple relationships

Michael Thomas
 

I have just seen this email from Kevin and I too would like to be able to produce a similar simple report. It would be good to be able to include photos or paintings as an option for the more recent generations..

I wrote to Mike Tate recently about what I called a ‘dropdown’ report but didn’t explain myself very well.

 

Thanks

Mike Thomas

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of casey.kevin@...
Sent: 20 September 2021 17:06
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Reports without colored lines to show multiple relationships

 

Good afternoon. The standard ancestor/descendant report from Family Historian handles "pedigree collapse"/shared ancestors with colored lines which show how the same individuals appears in several places in their relationship to the subject.

However, geneanet.org and other online services provide this same data graphically without showing the same name twice (an example is below). Is there any way Family Historian could be made to generate reports that only show the same individual once (if possible)?

Thank you,
Kevin


Reports without colored lines to show multiple relationships

Kevin Casey
 

Good afternoon. The standard ancestor/descendant report from Family Historian handles "pedigree collapse"/shared ancestors with colored lines which show how the same individuals appears in several places in their relationship to the subject.

However, geneanet.org and other online services provide this same data graphically without showing the same name twice (an example is below). Is there any way Family Historian could be made to generate reports that only show the same individual once (if possible)?

Thank you,
Kevin


Re: Translating charts

Mike Tate
 

Sorry, but I was wrong about how to set up Diagrams to have different male and female translations for Born.

You need to edit the Diagram Text Scheme that was initially created when the Language Pack was created.

 

Display any Diagram and open the Diagram > Options > Language tab to choose the Diagram Language: Slovenian (SLV)

Then open the Text tab, choose the Text Scheme and click Edit Language Variant… button.

Select the Birth item under Used Items and click the Edit button at the bottom.

In the Template replace the text "E_Rojen(a): _, _" with Sex(%INDI%,"E_Rojen: _, _","E_Rojena: _, _","E_Rojen: _, _") so the whole Template is:

=FactText(%INDI.BIRT%,"CT",Sex(%INDI%,"E_Rojen: _, _","E_Rojena: _, _","E_Rojen: _, _"))

Finally, click OK several times to see the effect of the change.

 

That uses the Sex() function to test the Individual (%INDI%) Sex field and for Male use "E_Rojen: _, _", for Female use "E_Rojena: _, _", otherwise use "E_Rojen: _, _"

 

I realise that is an advanced technique and perhaps should be documented in the FH Help pages.

 

It is in that Text Scheme for Slovenian that you should change the Date Format: to Abbrev(3) so that the dd.mm.yyyy format is used in Slovenian Diagrams.

 


Re: Translating charts

Mike Tate
 

So you now have a Language Pack with Birth translated to rojen(a).

Use Tools > Language Pack… and Edit… your Slovenian Language Pack.

Select the word Birth and Edit… to open the Edit Translation window.

Select the Special Case option Female with Translate to Rojena then click Save to Update Existing entry.

Select the Special Case option (none) with Translate to Rojen then select Create New and click Create.

 

Now you have two separate translations for Female and the default (none) for Male.

 

You don’t need the Language Pack to set a Date format of 24.2.1711.

Use Tools > Preferences > General and set Preferred Short Date Format to dd.mm.yyy

In the Diagram > Options > Text tab, use Edit Text Scheme… and Set Date Format to Abbrev(3)

 


Re: Translating charts

jerebinho@...
 

Solved it, thank you. FH can't differentiate between masculine and feminine version of the word though, but I have managed to solve this issue using brackets (born in Slovene for male is "rojen", for female it's "rojena", solved using "rojen(a)").
I still have an issue changing the date format used in diagrams. Can I change that, so it would not say "on 24 February 1711" but only "24.2.1711"?


Re: Calculate Birth date from age at death

Mike Tate
 

Karin,
I'm surprised you "had to figure out how to enter the exact age" as in your original posting you had already identified "the Age Entry Assistant Dialog associated with the Age box".

In the FHUG Forum, I have posted a development of the Query that calculates the earliest and latest Birth Date from any facts that have both Date & Age.
See 'Calculate Birth date from date & age in other facts' to download the 'Birth Date Calculator' Query at:
https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=19820


Re: Calculate Birth date from age at death

Karin Schuette Weiss
 

Very nice Mike.  I like having this available right in the program.

Also, in order to use it, I first had to figure out how to enter the
exact age.  I am continually impressed with the fact that once I
figure out how to use something, Family Historian is amazing.


As are all you folks who so quickly provide answers to questions.
Thanks to all.

Karin Schuette Weiss

On 9/17/2021 1:49 PM, Mike Tate wrote:
I've just double-checked my custom Query 'Birth Date from Age at Death' against the online calculators and found a mistake.

The corrected plugin is attached.

So after entering the Death event Date and Age, run the Query to discover the calculated Birth Date.




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