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Re: Broken Links and Lost Sources

Mike Tate
 

Hi Geoff,

It sounds like the Project GEDCOM file has probably been corrupted.

The two methods of recovery are the Snapshots and Backups.

 

The Snapshot 11 August is effectively the GEDCOM file at that time.

If you have not added many Media since then, it is the best recovery option.

Use File > Backup/Recovery > Revert to Snapshot… and revert to that 11 August one.

It can do no harm. You may have to add anything added to your Project since that Snapshot was taken.

 

How did you ‘open’ the Backup? You cannot simply open the ZIP file. That will show many missing stuff.

Use File > Backup/Restore > Restore Backup… and select the latest ZIP file to create a new Project.

 

Another backup mechanism is to keep your Project folders in OneDrive or Google Drive or Dropbox so they are always saved up to the last few minutes.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of familywalter@...
Sent: 12 August 2022 16:26
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Broken Links and Lost Sources

 

I had a brief power outage this morning whist FH 6.2.7 was open. PC continued to run but not communicating with screen.  Broadband went down but reconnected itself.  PC was powered down and restarted 30 mins later. PC now communicating with screen. Reopened FH to receive message listing "EXCLUDED" data which has not been loaded because "link to non-existent Source record". I was asked to 'validate' can't remember exactly what was being validated but FH appeared to find nothing wrong. I noticed that I had some sources missing so opened my backup from yesterday evening as 'Project 2'.  The bottom line is that even having opened an FH Backup I appear to have lost over 1000 sources and have over 1200 media items with no links.  
I have six FH Project Backups between 5-11 August and the most recent Snapshot is 11 August at 20.26.
Suggestions welcome as to how I might recover the situation. Thank you.
Geoff Walter


Broken Links and Lost Sources

familywalter@...
 

I had a brief power outage this morning whist FH 6.2.7 was open. PC continued to run but not communicating with screen.  Broadband went down but reconnected itself.  PC was powered down and restarted 30 mins later. PC now communicating with screen. Reopened FH to receive message listing "EXCLUDED" data which has not been loaded because "link to non-existent Source record". I was asked to 'validate' can't remember exactly what was being validated but FH appeared to find nothing wrong. I noticed that I had some sources missing so opened my backup from yesterday evening as 'Project 2'.  The bottom line is that even having opened an FH Backup I appear to have lost over 1000 sources and have over 1200 media items with no links.  
I have six FH Project Backups between 5-11 August and the most recent Snapshot is 11 August at 20.26.
Suggestions welcome as to how I might recover the situation. Thank you.
Geoff Walter


Descendants by Generation Narrative. Report. Henry Numbering System

Laércio Silva Filho
 

Hello all,

Is there any way I can generate a "Descendants by Narrative Report" using Henry Numbering System?

Thanks in advance!

Laércio SIlva Filho


Re: Size of my chart. #new

Edward Sneithe
 

Thank you for all your suggestions. I may be able to use Stephens suggestion but I would not use the A3 but separate my chart into two pieces that I can get printed at my local printer. In B&W a print this zize will be less than $15. I can then cut the paper off at the end  and glue/tape them together to form a very large chart.
 
 Sometimes we get suggestions that don't answer the question directly but provide a whole new way of addressing our genealogical problems. My-History.co.uk has many useful items I can use. Thank you David.
 
 I will continue to look at PDFs but so far I have not been able to get the whole chart on one page and still be readable. The last chart I used the "both" chart which is not as full as all relatives therefore stayed small enough to fit into many formats.
 
 I looked at genealogyprinters.com but they work off  gecom and I don't have the same control as I do by using FH and my print would cost me about #82 which is more than my local printer.
 
 For the time being I will try to structure two charts the can be cut and taped together.


On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 01:49:43 PM EDT, David Burgess via groups.io <david.burgess42@...> wrote:


Hi

Try "My History" at Denaby Main, South Yorkshire.  It is close to Rotherham.

https://www.my-history.co.uk/

They specialise in family history charts.

David Burgess


On 10/08/2022 17:08, Victor Markham via groups.io wrote:
Edward many years ago I emailed my family tree to a company who printed it in a long roll of paper which I gave to a cousin in Canada when I went to meet them. Sorry I can't recall the company but think it was based in Rotherham.
If this company still exists they could do this for you

Victor

On 10 Aug 2022, at 16:05, Trevor Rix <trevor@...> wrote:
Edward - you may have already tried this. If the print to pdf dialogue says that the pdf will be on two pages, abort, go to diagram options and reduce the scaling to 50%. The diagram will then fit on one page. Use the same technique to reduce the scaling for multiple pages.

Alternatively contact My History who specialise in both Family Historian and pdf printing.
-- 
David Burgess


Re: Size of my chart. #new

David Burgess
 

Hi

Try "My History" at Denaby Main, South Yorkshire.  It is close to Rotherham.

https://www.my-history.co.uk/

They specialise in family history charts.

David Burgess


On 10/08/2022 17:08, Victor Markham via groups.io wrote:
Edward many years ago I emailed my family tree to a company who printed it in a long roll of paper which I gave to a cousin in Canada when I went to meet them. Sorry I can't recall the company but think it was based in Rotherham.
If this company still exists they could do this for you

Victor

On 10 Aug 2022, at 16:05, Trevor Rix <trevor@...> wrote:
Edward - you may have already tried this. If the print to pdf dialogue says that the pdf will be on two pages, abort, go to diagram options and reduce the scaling to 50%. The diagram will then fit on one page. Use the same technique to reduce the scaling for multiple pages.

Alternatively contact My History who specialise in both Family Historian and pdf printing.
-- 
David Burgess


Re: Size of my chart. #new

stephen.challis@...
 

I print my larger charts on an A3 printer (with ‘Avoid Page Boundaries’ switched on), cut off the edges of the pages with an A3 guillotine (so that there is no break in the lines at the edges of the pages when the pages are taped together) and tape them together with Scotch Magic tape (like Sellotape but matt, so it’s practically invisible and never goes brittle or yellow) which is currently about £10 for 132 metres on Amazon. I use small pieces of tape at the top and bottom of the pages on the front of the chart (but not covering data) so as to hold the pages in exactly the right position so the lines line up properly, and then turn the chart over and tape right down the join so that the pages are properly secured together. Another virtue of Scotch Magic tape is that it can be removed and repositioned for a short time afterwards.

 

You can have your chart as large (so as to be readable!) as you like – provided your prepared to put in the time, the paper and the Scotch tape, of course; you’re not restricted by the size of the paper. It’s one of the many brilliant things I love about this program.

 

It might be a bit more fiddly than using a professional printer but it’s quicker and far cheaper.

 

Stephen

 

Stephen Challis

Please reply to Stephen.Challis@...

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Sneithe via groups.io
Sent: 10 August 2022 12:55
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Size of my chart. #new

 

My local commercial printer can print images up to 4 feet wide by 500 feet long. I don't have a chart that size but the capability is there. I have experimented with adjusting the size of the chart and if I keep the image under 30,000 by 30,000 pixels it all works ok using any  of the image formats. I just need to keep the pixels at a level where I can read the details of the boxes on the chart.

 

When I try to create a PDF I can't seem to get it as one chart but it is separated into many charts in the same PDF, which is not what I want. I just read the file ( https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/single-pdf-page-of-a-diagram/ ) and I will experiment with all the options there but it seems that there can be a limit of 128" or 200" for a chart so I will need to experiment if I can print my chart at a resolution that will be readable.

 

I was trying to get an all relatives chart and that is relatively large. It is currently 3 ft by 75 ft, ( 36" X 900" )

 

Thank you all for your suggestions and I will let you know if I can get the chart into a PDF but it may be too large and I may need to come up with another scheme.

 

 

 

On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 05:13:45 AM EDT, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

 

 

Edward,

The best format to produce large diagram charts is usually PDF.

It would help if you told us what size paper your printer handles and the size of the diagram chart as given by Diagram > Diagram Statistics…

 

Have you followed the advice in FHUG Knowledge Base ‘Single PDF Page of a Diagram’?

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/single-pdf-page-of-a-diagram/

That advises about how to adjust diagram size and scaling particularly for large diagrams.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Sneithe via groups.io
Sent: 10 August 2022 00:04
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Size of my chart. #new

 

I am trying to get a large chart to print at my local printer. I have tried using every format available from FH, jpeg, tiff, png, psd, pdf, etc. I have printed them out previous to a jpeg that my printer could print. The chart is now so large that the resulting image file has not been created correctly and shows either as a  black rectangle or the image software says it is incorrectly formatted.

I have tried to create smaller charts without a problem.  It may be that the resulting image is greater than 30,000 pixels by 30,000 pixels which I believe is a limit for many software packages.

Can this be gotten around or am I stuck with just generating smaller charts?


Re: Size of my chart. #new

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

The FHUG Knowledge Base has some other possibilities for large printing services: Publishers and Printers


Re: Size of my chart. #new

Malcolm Austen
 

Possibly Ron O'Neill in Wolverhampton?

http://www.genealogyprinters.com

Malcolm.

On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 17:08:35 +0100, Victor Markham via groups.io <victor@...> wrote:

Edward many years ago I emailed my family tree to a company who printed it in a long roll of paper which I gave to a cousin in Canada when I went to meet them. Sorry I can't recall the company but think it was based in Rotherham.
If this company still exists they could do this for you

Victor

On 10 Aug 2022, at 16:05, Trevor Rix <trevor@...> wrote:
Edward - you may have already tried this. If the print to pdf dialogue says that the pdf will be on two pages, abort, go to diagram options and reduce the scaling to 50%. The diagram will then fit on one page. Use the same technique to reduce the scaling for multiple pages.

Alternatively contact My History who specialise in both Family Historian and pdf printing.



--
Malcolm Austen - email: malcolm.austen@...


Re: Size of my chart. #new

Victor Markham
 

Edward many years ago I emailed my family tree to a company who printed it in a long roll of paper which I gave to a cousin in Canada when I went to meet them. Sorry I can't recall the company but think it was based in Rotherham.
If this company still exists they could do this for you

Victor

On 10 Aug 2022, at 16:05, Trevor Rix <trevor@...> wrote:

Edward - you may have already tried this. If the print to pdf dialogue says that the pdf will be on two pages, abort, go to diagram options and reduce the scaling to 50%. The diagram will then fit on one page. Use the same technique to reduce the scaling for multiple pages.

Alternatively contact My History who specialise in both Family Historian and pdf printing.


Re: Size of my chart. #new

Trevor Rix
 

Edward - you may have already tried this. If the print to pdf dialogue says that the pdf will be on two pages, abort, go to diagram options and reduce the scaling to 50%. The diagram will then fit on one page. Use the same technique to reduce the scaling for multiple pages.

Alternatively contact My History who specialise in both Family Historian and pdf printing.


Re: Size of my chart. #new

Edward Sneithe
 

My local commercial printer can print images up to 4 feet wide by 500 feet long. I don't have a chart that size but the capability is there. I have experimented with adjusting the size of the chart and if I keep the image under 30,000 by 30,000 pixels it all works ok using any  of the image formats. I just need to keep the pixels at a level where I can read the details of the boxes on the chart.

When I try to create a PDF I can't seem to get it as one chart but it is separated into many charts in the same PDF, which is not what I want. I just read the file ( https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/single-pdf-page-of-a-diagram/ ) and I will experiment with all the options there but it seems that there can be a limit of 128" or 200" for a chart so I will need to experiment if I can print my chart at a resolution that will be readable.

I was trying to get an all relatives chart and that is relatively large. It is currently 3 ft by 75 ft, ( 36" X 900" )

Thank you all for your suggestions and I will let you know if I can get the chart into a PDF but it may be too large and I may need to come up with another scheme.



On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 05:13:45 AM EDT, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:


Edward,

The best format to produce large diagram charts is usually PDF.

It would help if you told us what size paper your printer handles and the size of the diagram chart as given by Diagram > Diagram Statistics…

 

Have you followed the advice in FHUG Knowledge Base ‘Single PDF Page of a Diagram’?

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/single-pdf-page-of-a-diagram/

That advises about how to adjust diagram size and scaling particularly for large diagrams.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Sneithe via groups.io
Sent: 10 August 2022 00:04
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Size of my chart. #new

 

I am trying to get a large chart to print at my local printer. I have tried using every format available from FH, jpeg, tiff, png, psd, pdf, etc. I have printed them out previous to a jpeg that my printer could print. The chart is now so large that the resulting image file has not been created correctly and shows either as a  black rectangle or the image software says it is incorrectly formatted.

I have tried to create smaller charts without a problem.  It may be that the resulting image is greater than 30,000 pixels by 30,000 pixels which I believe is a limit for many software packages.

Can this be gotten around or am I stuck with just generating smaller charts?


Re: Size of my chart. #new

Mike Tate
 

Edward,

The best format to produce large diagram charts is usually PDF.

It would help if you told us what size paper your printer handles and the size of the diagram chart as given by Diagram > Diagram Statistics…

 

Have you followed the advice in FHUG Knowledge Base ‘Single PDF Page of a Diagram’?

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/single-pdf-page-of-a-diagram/

That advises about how to adjust diagram size and scaling particularly for large diagrams.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Sneithe via groups.io
Sent: 10 August 2022 00:04
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Size of my chart. #new

 

I am trying to get a large chart to print at my local printer. I have tried using every format available from FH, jpeg, tiff, png, psd, pdf, etc. I have printed them out previous to a jpeg that my printer could print. The chart is now so large that the resulting image file has not been created correctly and shows either as a  black rectangle or the image software says it is incorrectly formatted.

I have tried to create smaller charts without a problem.  It may be that the resulting image is greater than 30,000 pixels by 30,000 pixels which I believe is a limit for many software packages.

Can this be gotten around or am I stuck with just generating smaller charts?


Re: Size of my chart. #new

Lorna Craig
 

Edward, the recommended format for saving large charts is PDF.    

Check out the detailed advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base here:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/single-pdf-page-of-a-diagram/

It includes advice on how to adjust the scale of the diagram if necessary.

 

 

From: Edward Sneithe via groups.io
Sent: 10 August 2022 00:04
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Size of my chart. #new

 

I am trying to get a large chart to print at my local printer. I have tried using every format available from FH, jpeg, tiff, png, psd, pdf, etc. I have printed them out previous to a jpeg that my printer could print. The chart is now so large that the resulting image file has not been created correctly and shows either as a  black rectangle or the image software says it is incorrectly formatted.

I have tried to create smaller charts without a problem.  It may be that the resulting image is greater than 30,000 pixels by 30,000 pixels which I believe is a limit for many software packages.

Can this be gotten around or am I stuck with just generating smaller charts?

 


Re: Size of my chart. #new

Wal Mills
 

Edward,

I suggest you take it on a USB stick to your local Office Works and print it out at A2 or so.
They can accept most formats but prefer pdf. Maximum file size is 250mb.
It will only be a few dollars.

Regards
Wal

On 10/08/2022 9:04 am, Edward Sneithe via groups.io wrote:

I am trying to get a large chart to print at my local printer. I have tried using every format available from FH, jpeg, tiff, png, psd, pdf, etc. I have printed them out previous to a jpeg that my printer could print. The chart is now so large that the resulting image file has not been created correctly and shows either as a  black rectangle or the image software says it is incorrectly formatted.

I have tried to create smaller charts without a problem.  It may be that the resulting image is greater than 30,000 pixels by 30,000 pixels which I believe is a limit for many software packages.

Can this be gotten around or am I stuck with just generating smaller charts?


Size of my chart. #new

Edward Sneithe
 

I am trying to get a large chart to print at my local printer. I have tried using every format available from FH, jpeg, tiff, png, psd, pdf, etc. I have printed them out previous to a jpeg that my printer could print. The chart is now so large that the resulting image file has not been created correctly and shows either as a  black rectangle or the image software says it is incorrectly formatted.

I have tried to create smaller charts without a problem.  It may be that the resulting image is greater than 30,000 pixels by 30,000 pixels which I believe is a limit for many software packages.

Can this be gotten around or am I stuck with just generating smaller charts?


Re: Help: how do I know both my fathers and mothers trees have merged?

Mike Tate
 

Sorry, but we will find it equally difficult to help you without more information.

What makes you think that your parent’s trees have merged?

What do you see and what connection line are you expecting?

Please provide a screenshot of the diagram and explain the problem in more detail.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of danellenbach@...
Sent: 07 August 2022 17:24
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Help: how do I know both my fathers and mothers trees have merged?

 

I see them but I don't see a connection line to my dad's side. In the diagram my dad's name block is grayed out?
I have no idea what I'm doing!


Help: how do I know both my fathers and mothers trees have merged?

danellenbach@...
 

I see them but I don't see a connection line to my dad's side. In the diagram my dad's name block is grayed out?
I have no idea what I'm doing!


Re: Transferring custom birth tag

Jan Murphy
 

Forgive me for adding to the off-topic chatter, but can we please stop calling EE an 800-page collection of citation templates?  

It is NOT that.

EE is a guide to US records and how to evaluate them. It is essentially the US equivalent to Mark D. Herber's Ancestral Trails, but no one thinks of it that way because they are told over and over again it is nothing but templates.

Michael Hait's two blog posts sum it up better than I can. 



This screenshot is from EE 2nd ed. page 10; if I remember correctly, it's on page 8 of the 3rd rev. edition.

EE.PNG
We identify our sources—and their strengths and weaknesses—so we can reach the most reliable conclusions.

If you don't want to reach reliable conclusions, fine, but don't blame Mills when you shoot yourself in the foot because you were unwilling to examine your sources. 

Jan Murphy

Moderator Pro Tempore



On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 10:31 AM Jeff La Marca <jlamarca@...> wrote:
Ah, I normally just lurk but any reference to “Evidence Explained” raises my hackles and causes me to seek therapy! Personally, I find the gabagigamegazillions of templates of EE and the manner in which Mills deals with “facts” to be an abomination. . . . there, now I feel a bit better! 😉

BTW, in order to be fully transparent, I created Simple Citations in direct response to EE: 

I’ve now created three templates that will cover essentially all events/facts for FH. I created them for RootsMagic many years ago but the ones for FH take advantage of data entry features available in FH but not RM. I’ve now used them with my own data for the last few months. I’d like to release the templates (free, of course) and need to know how best to do that. 

Jeff



On Aug 2, 2022, at 12:26 PM, colevalleygirl@... wrote:



Just in case we need another piece of jargon 😊:

 

“Society speaks loosely of historical facts as though the events of history are chiseled in stone. In reality, most details we accumulate in our research will be assertions or claims, not facts. We may know ‘for a fact’ that we were involved in a particular event on a specific day. Beyond our personal experiences, however, we deal with assertions and opinions—each of which we are obliged to test for validity.”

          Elizabeth Shown Mills, Evidence Explained: Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace

 

 

I have always argued that the most useful part of that book is the first two chapters – not the gazillions of templates that follow them.


Re: Transferring custom birth tag

Jeff La Marca
 

Thanks! I’ve just started the process of uploading them (hopefully,  I’m doing it correctly). I’m waiting for an e-mail link so I can upload them now. Once they’re up, I’ll post a little more information on their use as they’re slightly different than the original ones I created for RM. They function almost exactly the same way except that FH interfaces places on the templates with the places (or locations) table associated with other data (I gave up trying to get RM to permit that), the same is also true with Repositories in FH (which is wonderful), and one other item that’s associated with Repositories.

 

Anyway, I hope they’ll be available soon and I’ll welcome any feedback on them.

 

Thanks,

 

Jeff

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of colevalleygirl@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 1:45 PM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Transferring custom birth tag

 

I'd suggest adding them to the FHUG knowledge base. 

 

I spent some time applying the EE templates or a workable variation on them

The jury is out on whether I'll use them in FH 7  or adopt the Strathclyde ones

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Transferring custom birth tag

Lorna Craig
 

As fascinating as this discussion is, it has strayed far from the original question and I fear that Wendy who asked it will have given up hope of getting a solution to her problem.  I don’t want Wendy to give up on FH at the first hurdle.

To recap, she had used the Change any Fact Tag plugin to convert her imported TMG custom birth facts to standard birth facts, saw the changes made, said they appeared in the Facts tab, but the birth date was still not showing in the Main tab:

"I downloaded the Plugin, ran it and changed the custom birth tag to Birth, and saw 156 changes as expected. The changes appear in the Facts tab. I’m missing something obvious. What do I do next to have the 156 changed birth tags appear in the Main tab window so each individual shows their birth date after Born:?"
She later said
"In this project, the TMG tags Birth and Birth-Custom tags have identical content."

And 

For plugin options I chose:
Source Tag Set: TMG import
Source Tag Name: Birth-Cust
Target Tag Set: Standard
Target Tag Name: Birth

So she has converted the TMG Birth-Cust facts to Standard birth facts but I am unclear as to whether there are still some TMG Birth facts (as opposed to TMG Birth-Cust facts) which are different from Standard birth facts, and whether some individuals had both types of TMG birth fact. 

Wendy, if you see this can you post some screenshots of the Facts tab and Main tab of an individual showing the problem?  (Either here or on FHUG)

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