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Re: The fact Emigration

Mike Tate
 

What takes several attempts?

1) Initial run of Plugin to show the main dialogue window with four tabs.

2) Clicking the green button to change ‘Emigration to Immigration’.

3) Something else.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of haakwahl@...
Sent: 17 August 2022 23:20
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] The fact Emigration

 

Thanks again, Mike.

The Plugin starts; sometimes only after several attempts.

So, now I'm on to this part of the customization to FH!

Haakon


Re: The fact Emigration

haakwahl@...
 

Thanks again, Mike.

The Plugin starts; sometimes only after several attempts.

So, now I'm on to this part of the customization to FH!

Haakon

 

 

Fra: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> På vegne av Mike Tate
Sendt: onsdag 17. august 2022 11:46
Til: family-historian@groups.io
Emne: Re: [family-historian] The fact Emigration

 

Hi Haakon,

Yes, sorry, there is a minor bug in the Plugin when dealing with a Project based Fact Set that I am trying to fix.

Here is the current workaround…

Select any other Source Tag Set: such as Standard or and then return to TMG Import (project) and it should work fine.

 

 

 


Re: The fact Emigration

Mike Tate
 

Hi Haakon,

Yes, sorry, there is a minor bug in the Plugin when dealing with a Project based Fact Set that I am trying to fix.

Here is the current workaround…

Select any other Source Tag Set: such as Standard or and then return to TMG Import (project) and it should work fine.

 

 

 


Re: The fact Emigration

haakwahl@...
 

Thank you so much, Mike Tate.

The proposed solution works as predicted on my trial project. On the main project, however, it stops. Your presumption of need for help was correct.

The "Confirm Edit" command is not available. 'Change any Tag' plugin stops. The Change 'Source Tag Name' field in 'Target Tag Name' remains grey. I'm grateful for the proposed solution.

I am grateful for a proposed solution.

Haakon

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Fra: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> På vegne av Mike Tate
Sendt: tirsdag 16. august 2022 19:27
Til: family-historian@groups.io
Emne: Re: [family-historian] The fact Emigration

 

I forgot to mention shared Fact Witnesses with the Role of Emigrant.

If your Emigration events have such Fact Witnesses then after changing to Immigration events they need their Role changed to Immigrant.

If only a few they can be edited by hand, otherwise the ‘Search and Replace’ plugin can be used.

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 16 August 2022 17:55
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] The fact Emigration

 

It is not a good idea to move the Place: field to the To: field because Place: is a standard GEDCOM field but To: is not.

Probably the best solution is to convert all the Emigration events to Immigration events whose Sentence Template is something like:

{individual} migrated <to {_place}>  <from {_place2}> {date} {age} <together with {other=immigrant}>

And in the Facts tab top pane, it will say ‘Immigrated to USA’ for your example.

Use the ‘Change Any Fact Tag’ plugin from the Plugin Store to bulk change every Emigration to Immigration.

If you need help running that plugin then ask again.

Mike Tate

 


Re: The fact Emigration

Mike Tate
 

I forgot to mention shared Fact Witnesses with the Role of Emigrant.

If your Emigration events have such Fact Witnesses then after changing to Immigration events they need their Role changed to Immigrant.

If only a few they can be edited by hand, otherwise the ‘Search and Replace’ plugin can be used.

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 16 August 2022 17:55
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] The fact Emigration

 

It is not a good idea to move the Place: field to the To: field because Place: is a standard GEDCOM field but To: is not.

Probably the best solution is to convert all the Emigration events to Immigration events whose Sentence Template is something like:

{individual} migrated <to {_place}>  <from {_place2}> {date} {age} <together with {other=immigrant}>

And in the Facts tab top pane, it will say ‘Immigrated to USA’ for your example.

Use the ‘Change Any Fact Tag’ plugin from the Plugin Store to bulk change every Emigration to Immigration.

If you need help running that plugin then ask again.

Mike Tate

 


Re: The fact Emigration

Mike Tate
 

It is not a good idea to move the Place: field to the To: field because Place: is a standard GEDCOM field but To: is not.

Probably the best solution is to convert all the Emigration events to Immigration events whose Sentence Template is something like:

{individual} migrated <to {_place}>  <from {_place2}> {date} {age} <together with {other=immigrant}>

And in the Facts tab top pane, it will say ‘Immigrated to USA’ for your example.

Use the ‘Change Any Fact Tag’ plugin from the Plugin Store to bulk change every Emigration to Immigration.

If you need help running that plugin then ask again.

Mike Tate

 


The fact Emigration

haakwahl@...
 

After converting from TMG, among other things, I have a challenge with the emigration event. In TMG, the statement is: [P] <|and [PO]> emigrated <[D]> <to [L]><[M]>

In FH: {individual} emigrated <from {_place}> <to {_place2}> {date} {age} <together with {other=emigrant}>

This causes the destination to be placed in the field of departure, but with the text Emigrated from. The text in the "Sentence" field is correct (emigrated to), but in reports “emigrated from”. One solution is to move the text in "Place" to the field "To:"

However, I have more than 1,500 cases. Does anyone have suggestions for a solution for this case?

Thanks in advance.

Haakon Wahl

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Re: Punctuation in fact anmes

Mike Tate
 

I have just experimented by importing a GEDCOM into FH with a custom fact Name: John's/.?(In!)
i.e.
1 EVEN
2 TYPE John's/.?(In!)
That imported unchanged initially but without a Tools > Fact Types... definition as confirmed by ticking Show Hidden.
When I used the Edit... button to create a definition the Name and Label were automatically reduced to Johns(In) by removing the invalid characters.
Thereafter the Label can be restored to the original name John's/.?(In!)

I suspect direct import from Legacy will result in a similar effect but have not tested that.

Mike Tate


Re: Punctuation in fact anmes

Mike Tate
 

Hi Teresa,
I sympathise with your points.
There is no fundamental reason for the restrictions except that custom facts must be represented using valid GEDCOM tags in Data References.
Those tags can only use a limited subset of characters A - Z, 0 - 9, hyphen, and underscore, which is what the error message says.
I suspect over the years FH has relaxed the rules for the Name you enter, and converts any other characters to underscore in Data Refs.
So the more characters that are allowed the greater the risk that Data References will not be unique.

Standard fact Names do not have the above problem because their Data References are predefined rather than derived from the Name.

I suggest you report the inconsistencies to CP and suggest the rules are relaxed and the error message corrected.

Mike Tate


Re: One drive folder for my projects on a new PC

Gary Forget
 

Thank you everyone.

I’m back to feeling real good about choosing FH as my genealogy software.

Gary

 

 


Punctuation in fact anmes

Teresa Goatham
 

I've just tried to enter an attribute name with a slash and been surprised to find how restricted I am. I find I am not allowed to enter a slash, full-stop, question mark or apostrophe.

The slash and full-stop are most surprising, since they are both used in the standard events that FamilyHistorian already has. Given I am mostly happy with a slightly different event name, and can include them in labels in FH and can set different words within TNG it's not a big issue, but I guess I will have to change ones I have in Legacy before moving a tree there to FH.

The one I'm not happy with alternate words: 'Coroner's Inquest'. 'Inquest by a Coroner' is just too long and non-standard.
(Non-standard: an exact search of newspapers on FMP for 'Coroner's Inquest' finds 271,759, for 'Inquest by a Coroner' just 1681.)

There also seems to be an error in the error message I get when I try to include one of the forbidden items:
'Invalid name. Fact names may only contain simple alphabetic characters [no accents], digits, hyphens and underscores.'

I find that round brackets (I haven't tried any others) ARE allowed.

I guess there's a good reason for this restriction but it would be nice if it were changed.

Teresa


Re: Easiest Way to Combine a Duplicated Ancestor

Mike Tate
 

Tom,

This merged Individual now exists in more than one tree branch.

So, when you display a diagram chart he may appear in multiple boxes with a coloured ribbon linking those boxes.

That is normal and the Diagram > Options > General tab, Check for duplicates option, customises those ribbons.

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: Easiest Way to Combine a Duplicated Ancestor

Tom Santa Cruz
 

Mike, 

Thank you so much.  Your directions are clear and to the point.
The "Family Historian Help" just overloads me with too many possibilities.
And as a practice, I do a Full Backup after every session and delete those monster files regularly, but save the last two backups.

Grateful for your help, Tom Santa Cruz

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 5:33 AM Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Hi Tom,

It would be wise to create a Project backup before you start just in case of problems.

In the Records Window, on the Individuals tab, select the one with the first Record Id.

Use Edit > Merge/Compare Records… then select and add the one with the other Record Id and click OK.

Use the Merge dialogue to add and keep all the required details from both records and finally click Merge.

If in any doubt about what details need to be merged then click Help for advice or click Cancel to abort.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 


Re: Edit Source Template

Arild.Tangeras@...
 

Than you, that led me in the right direction.
Arild


Re: Edit Source Template

Mike Tate
 

Hi Arild,

I assume you are using Tools > Source Template Definitions… to Edit the template.

Now that Definition has the same name as the Source Template Record in the Project but the definition differs.

The step you are missing is the Compare/Sync with Source Template Record… button on the right.

Use the Help button to get advice on using the dialogue.

 

Mike Tate

 


Edit Source Template

Arild.Tangeras@...
 

I have imported my data from TMG and am now exploring FH and how to use source templates, sources, and citations. I have created a new source template, added it to my project, and added a citation using this source template. I then wanted to modify the layout of the source template, so I deleted the citation so that in the Source list it shows that it is used for zero citations. After modifying the source template and saving it and then I try to add it to the project, I cannot do this, since the previous version of the template is still in my project. The alternative is to change the name of the template, but I would prefer to delete the old version from the project so that I can add the updated one with the same name. Is there any way I can to this?
Thank you,
Arild


Re: One drive folder for my projects on a new PC

Vyger
 

Gary,

Use the Plugin as suggested by Mike Tate, I had a few anomalies between desktop and laptop which puzzled me and the Plugin resolved these.

FH stores some data in the registry which I didn't know about, different from my previous software and better to have system level settings.

All my genealogy data, including FH projects, are in my Documents folder and I sync this folder between desktop and laptop so all paths remain the same. I would believe once you get the system data aligned it will be plain sailing.

Jackson


On Sat, 13 Aug 2022, 09:12 Gary Forget, <garyj.f@...> wrote:

Well I replaced a laptop and desktop with a new laptop and I’m struggling with storage of my projects. On my old computers they were all in the Project window.

In the screenshots attached the Sample Project and my Forget Family projects were all showing up on my Project Window at point of entry.

I bought the new laptop,  copied my FH data from my old laptop to my new laptop and I’ve had problems ever since.

 

I want the Project window in FH to show my Sample Project and Family Forget Project as options for me to choose instead of going the long route of More tasks from the Project window.

I’m also noticing the time to save the project has slowed down since moving to the new PC. Every 5 minutes or so I’m waiting to get back access to carry on entering date. I must be doing something wrong.

Any suggestions? I’ve read the Understanding Projects  pages from the Knowledge base but nothing jumped out as relevant

 

Thanks,

Gary

 

 

 

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Re: One drive folder for my projects on a new PC

Mike Tate
 

Gary, see the FHUG Knowledge BaseFamily Historian Copy and Migration Guide’ for full details:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/family-historian-copy-and-migration-guide/

 


Re: Easiest Way to Combine a Duplicated Ancestor

Mike Tate
 

Hi Tom,

It would be wise to create a Project backup before you start just in case of problems.

In the Records Window, on the Individuals tab, select the one with the first Record Id.

Use Edit > Merge/Compare Records… then select and add the one with the other Record Id and click OK.

Use the Merge dialogue to add and keep all the required details from both records and finally click Merge.

If in any doubt about what details need to be merged then click Help for advice or click Cancel to abort.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 


Re: One drive folder for my projects on a new PC

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

Gary, in More Tasks under the Project Window, go to Project List and then Choose Location for Project. Set that to the directory where your projects are.

Did you back up all your Settings and restore them to the new PC using the Backup and Restore Settings plugin? If you didn't you'll probably find that other settings have been lost, as they aren't transferred with your FH data.

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