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Re: Help with lost Property Box
Sue Paul
It is OK folks, I have managed to recover everything but many thanks to everyone how read this in order to help me. Regards, Sue
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 13:40, Sue Paul via Groups.Io <projectgal54=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Help with lost Property Box
Sue Paul
Good afternoon I do apologise for being a pain but I have, yet again, done something stupid. This time losing the Property Box. I started by losing the Sources Box at the bottom of the Property Box. In trying to get this back, I managed to get rid of the rest of the Property Box as well. I just cannot see how to get both back. I am sure I have done this before and managed to retrieve everything but I do not think I am functioning properly at present. Many thanks. Sue
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Re: split project
I don’t really understand the question and you don’t explain why you need to split a Project. Usually, it is not advisable to split a Project permanently, so no cross-reference is required.
You don’t say what split data items you want to put the MARKER or FLAG in. Anyway, when a Project is split, the data is permanently deleted so there is nothing left to add a flag to. Maybe you misunderstand how the Split Tree Helper operates.
I look forward to a more detailed explanation of your objectives and the process you were planning to use.
Regards, Mike Tate
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of kiwipete
Is there a way to put a MARKER or FLAG in when you split a project so you have a reference which file contains the split data??
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Re: split project
Paul Tanner-Tremaine
Possible steps you could take:
1. Create a new Flag, call it say Split 2. Backup your project/gedcom - for reference I'll call it Master 3. Go through the project and mark/tick all those who you want to split from Master with the new Split flag ticked. 4. Create a new custom query that show all individuals that have Split ticked - call it say Marked 5. Create another query that shows all individuals that do NOT have Split ticked - call it say UnMarked 6. Those two queries should show which Individuals you have or have not marked and the number of rows for each should add up to your original Indi count 7. Backup your Master gedcom again. 8. Goto 'master'.fhdata and make a copy of the Master gedcom - Ctrl-C 9. Paste the copy Ctrl-V and rename the gedcom Copy as say MarkedMaster.ged 10. Paste again and rename the Copy as say UnMarkedMaster.ged 11. Effectively at this stage you will have 3 gedcoms : Master, Marked and UnMarked or whatever you decided to call them. 12. Load MarkedMaster.ged and run split tree helper and select the third option, Delete all records Not Found by the query below, then select your Marked query from the dropdown. Pick any other options you need, and click Delete 13. Your MarkedMaster gedcom should now have only those that you marked with the flag Split 14. Load UnMarkedMaster.ged and run split tree helper and select the second option, Delete all records Found by the query below, then select your Marked query from the dropdown. Pick any other options you need, and click Delete 15. Your UnMarkedMaster.ged should now have only those records that were not marked with the Split flag. I did something similar to this a few years ago when I split a large gedom into two seperate entities. Double check my logic before you start.
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Re: split project
David Potter
I tend to use a Shared Note to describe what actions I have taken within the Project. Use ADD > Shared Note. I use the Custom ID field to record the date with an underscore for same date entries. There is of course a date/time stamp for last updated. But that's how I do it. See attached image.
I then use the Copy Project to create a copy and make changes as necessary along with suitable Backups of course. Be aware not to make the Copy Project 'Name' to long or complicated to avoid issues with Windows Path Names. 
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Re: Select Source Problem
Sue Paul
Mike I meant to say the Sources Tab of the Records Window. Kind Regards, Sue
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 02:17, Sue Paul <projectgal54@...> wrote:
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Re: Select Source Problem
Sue Paul
Mike Many thanks. In all the years I have been using Family Historian, I have never used the Records Window otherwise I would have wired out how to do it. I no have something else to keep me occupied whilst self-isolating - getting to know Family Historian better. Kind Regards, Sue
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 at 19:04, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:
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split project
Is there a way to put a MARKER or FLAG in when you split a project so you have a reference which file contains the split data??
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Re: tidy up
Thanks. Yes its going take ages to go over each entry and sort it. Luckily I can't go any place at the moment. I have merged all the phone numbers and will delete them. They are of no real use to me.
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Re: Select Source Problem
Hi Sue, Open the Records Window and select the Sources tab. Click the Source Records column heading and those [untitled] entries will appear at the top of the list.
Presumably, their Citations column will say 0 to indicate they are not used anywhere. If that column is not 0 then perhaps they should not be deleted.
Select one [untitled] entry and press the keyboard Delete key or use Edit > Delete. Repeat for the other entry.
Regards, Mike Tate
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sue Paul
Good morning.
I have stupidly managed two blank (i.e. labelled "[untitled]") entries in the "Source Records" list of the "Select source ..." pane that is displayed when you click on "Add Citation" and do not seem to be able to delete them or give them a name. Each has a record id but is otherwise blank.
Is it possible to delete them?
I realise that they are doing no harm but they annoy me.
Regards,
Sue
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Select Source Problem
Sue Paul
Good morning. I have stupidly managed two blank (i.e. labelled "[untitled]") entries in the "Source Records" list of the "Select source ..." pane that is displayed when you click on "Add Citation" and do not seem to be able to delete them or give them a name. Each has a record id but is otherwise blank. Is it possible to delete them? I realise that they are doing no harm but they annoy me. Regards, Sue
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Re: tidy up
Yes, assuming you did not enter that data, then it must have come from GEDCOM imported data. It is very important immediately after a GEDCOM import to review the data before merging it with your master Project.
The FHUG Knowledge Base has advice for importing from many popular products identifying their peculiarities. See https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:index#importing_to_family_historian
You will probably have to review each Place record, check where it is used, and adjust the data accordingly. There is no magic app or plugin, because they would need some logical rules, and this data appears to be random.
There are no other data fields than the standard ones provided by FH based on the GEDCOM standard. However, names like a bridegroom can be added as a spouse Individual record, bridesmaids as Fact Witnesses, etc. Most other data may have to go into the Note field, perhaps as a Labelled Note custom fact field. See the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Narrative Report Fact Sentence Templates ~ Custom Fact Fields:
Regards, Mike Tate
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of kiwipete
I decided today to tidy up my FH project and so I started with DATA - Places. What a mess, I assume this is something thats caused by importing other gedcom files. I had Phone numbers, Bridegroom names, Flower girl etc etc. and the list goes on. Even marriage celebrants names in the place field. Any suggestions. I can see its going take weeks to sort, cause this is only the Place date so far. Is there a app or add on that sets up fields for such input...
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tidy up
I decided today to tidy up my FH project and so I started with DATA - Places. What a mess, I assume this is something thats caused by importing other gedcom files. I had Phone numbers, Bridegroom names, Flower girl etc etc. and the list goes on. Even marriage celebrants names in the place field. Any suggestions. I can see its going take weeks to sort, cause this is only the Place date so far. Is there a app or add on that sets up fields for such input...
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Re: searching for best documentation on making tree small
Peter Ham
Thanks so much! I use FTM for synching with ancestry.com now. I treat ancestry.com as the master for now. I will experiment with the other way also.
On Mar 16, 2020, at 04:21, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:
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Re: searching for best documentation on making tree small
There is a way of ‘synchronising’ FH with Ancestry by exporting the GEDCOM file to either Family Tree Maker or Roots Magic that offer tight synchronisation with Ancestry. That way all updates are performed in FH as your master database and propagated out to FTM/RM and Ancestry. If you are interested there is advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base and Forum discussion threads. Regards, Mike Tate
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of peterrham@...
… My main challenge is integrating with ancestry.com. So, i think that i will use more than one program. One to interface with ancestry.com and probably this one for family tree diagrams and this reporting which is also pretty good. Integrating with Lua for plugins is exciting. I'm probably won't get that far, but i'm a software engineer, so i might try!
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Re: searching for best documentation on making tree small
As your one page will be a pdf, that one page can be large, so is there a need to try to manipulate the people into a small area? A pdf can be zoomed in so legibility is not normally an issue.
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Re: searching for best documentation on making tree small
Peter Ham
Thanks so much for the lightning fast responses. I do not want to interfere with anyone's weekend! This is becoming my hobby / obsession ....
For me, it's mostly the printing that i want to be on one page, so the pdf approach could work for me. I will take a look at the forum. Re-reading the documentation is helping me. I'm not sure how forum attachments work differently than this, but i will take a look. I think that the family historian smart tree is the key thing that is much better than the other programs that i have tried so far. The reporting is pretty good also. My main challenge is integrating with ancestry.com. So, i think that i will use more than one program. One to interface with ancestry.com and probably this one for family tree diagrams and this reporting which is also pretty good. Integrating with Lua for plugins is exciting. I'm probably won't get that far, but i'm a software engineer, so i might try! Thanks so much! Peter
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Re: searching for best documentation on making tree small
@Peter
Do you wish for the one page to be printed on paper, or to be viewed as a pdf file on a computer? Trevor
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Re: searching for best documentation on making tree small
In your previous posting, you said width was a problem. Using the Movement Control Box and Box & Bar controls the lower rows can be moved right so they sit under the upper rows. Regards, Mike Tate
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of peterrham@...
Here's my family tree that i'm testing with. I am playing games with the sibling ordering.
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Re: searching for best documentation on making tree small
There are many features for adjusting Diagrams to fit onto a certain number of pages. Take a look at the Diagram > Options and where many options can help. General tab Orientation and Scaling Print tab Orientation Portrait/Landscape Dimensions tab minimum settings
The Diagram > Enable Moving/Resizing command opens the Movement Control Box that allows various adjustments. See Getting the Most From Family Historian Chapter 9. Setting the Style, Layout & Content of Diagrams
The easiest way to print onto one page is Diagram > Save Diagram As > PDF File (.pdf) and accept default options. There is much on that in the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Single Page PDF of a Diagram https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:creating_a_single_page_pdf_of_a_diagram However, a large diagram with small text font may be illegible. You may have to compromise with fewer Individuals included, or fewer details in each box, or accept that two or more pages are unavoidable.
If you could post some screenshots there may be some quick workarounds we can suggest. Although these Emails allow images, it may be easier via the FHUG Forums.
It is quite a complex topic with lots to discover.
Regards, Mike Tate
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of peterrham@...
Hi, i have read the manual and searched youtube for videos.
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