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Re: Delete a second marriage error?

Mike Tate
 

Lynette, when reporting such problems it is helpful to be very explicit about what you have tried and the recent history.

What records did you try and merge?

‘Splitting off’ presumably means using the Export > GEDCOM File command?

But that should not cause duplicated records.

 

The records to be merged are Family records not Individual records.

That is why reports are saying married twice because there are two family partnerships as shown in the Focus Window.

 

So in the Records Window open the Families tab (or use View > Record Lists > Families).

Click the Family Records column heading to sort them into alphabetical order.

Look for the pair of …of Reginald Hector MCCURDY and Beatrice Allen Mary McCurdy (nee WHITE)

Those are the two records that need Edit > Merge/Compare Records

 


Re: Delete a second marriage error?

Lynette Butler
 

I also have this issue but when I tried your advice the records are exactly the same so not able to merge. They both have the same record number??? When I run a report it shows that they have been married twice but I am not able to see where the issue is?
I did split off part of my records to create a new project and wonder if this is why I have a duplicate for my parents records.
Thank you,
Lynette


Re: Media items in FH

Mike Tate
 

David,

Yes, back in early March we were in the process of migrating your Project from Mac Parallels to a Windows laptop.

From your screenshots on Mac Parallels it was definitely a fully functional Project and not a free-standing GEDCOM.

But after giving you some advice it is not clear whether you successfully migrated or not because you did not post any replies.

 

What is concerning me is that you now say the free-standing GEDCOM problem afflicts both systems.

Can you give any explanation of how that may have come about?

 

I suspect that to fix the problem with simple instructions is going to need screenshots from both of us.

Although this Email service does allow screenshots, they take a long time to get through because they must be vetted by the administrators.

 

So I strongly advise you use the FHUG Forums for free and post your problem there, as it allows multiple rapid screenshots that we can exchange very quickly.

Visit https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/ and sign in with what I suspect is your username Gynesd last used in 2017.

 

 


Re: Media items in FH

David Gynes
 

Mike,

Thank you, it now makes some sense to this barely computer literate oldie.

That answer is “Yes please” I would very much appreciate your help in getting things back as they should be, in language as simple as you can make it please!😉

David

David Gynes



On 2 Aug 2020, at 18:55, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

David,
Your screenshots are very poor quality, but I can just make out that it says – Family Historian Gedcom – at the top of the main FH window.
So despite what you may think, this is NOT a Project, but a free-standing GEDCOM file.
Such free-standing GEDCOM files do not have the concept of Project Media folders.
That is why you are not getting the Add Media dialogue with the Copy File(s) to: option.
 
So, can you explain why the Project folder structure has been disrupted?
Do you need advice about how to repair the folder structure?
This has been a common theme recently with several users suffering similar cases of Projects becoming free-standing GEDCOM.
It is often due to the <project-name>.fh_proj file going missing from the …\Family Historian Projects\<project-name> folder.
 


Re: Media items in FH

David Gynes
 

Thanks Ros,
I think it was probably the move when therot set in.

I will take Mike up on his offer to help me restore it to its proper format.

Best wishes,

David
David Gynes



On 2 Aug 2020, at 17:09, Ros <ros@...> wrote:

Your images are very small so it's not possible to be sure,  but I think the top of the Window says "Gedcom"?   If so you are running Family Historian in Gedcom mode.  So you need to create a Project from your Gedcom file.   If you used to have a Project the most common reason for the problem is not copying the whole Project folder (or using FH to restore a Full backup when moving to a new machine or environment.


Re: How do you deal with transcription errors?

johnfirr@...
 

Thanks. That all makes a lot of sense. If the variant spelling is belonging to the person because thats how they have styled themselves then it belongs with the individual but a transcription error belongs with the source. thats the strategy I will adopt.
much obliged as usual for the swift and helpful responses.
John


Re: How do you deal with transcription errors?

Julia Vokes
 

John
I think that the key here, is to decide on a method and stick to it, consistency is the key.

I research the name ‘Shepherd’ which obviously has several different spellings (Literacy wasn’t their strong point) and if I find a discrepancy I note in in the source area, but keep the original spelling in the record property box

Julia


On 3 Aug 2020, at 10:39, Victor Markham <victor@...> wrote:



John

If the error is in the census and you can check the census there is an option to report this. Also if the spelling in the cenus is wrong then again there is an option to report this. I have done this a number of times when looking at the census on Ancestry.

If the error is on the BMD index there is an option to report this. You can also see if it is recorded on YorkshireBMD. The transcribers of YorkshireBMD are from the local registration office looking at the original certificates on microfiche. The advantage of the marriage details on Yorkshire BMD is they add the location of where the marriage took place ..Register Office or name of church. When I note the spelling is wrong I would use the correct spelling and ad a note stating is was spelt...xxx on xxx

Victor

On 03/08/2020 8:25 am, johnfirr via groups.io wrote:
This is not a software query as such, more of an interest in how others record certain issues in FH.

In my family history reserach I am dogged with transcription problems in both indexes and many original documents. Almost every individual seems to go missing from the timeline but turns up if you search for alternative spellings.
I,m not surprised by this I have gone through life spelling my surname (Firr) to people as its almost always mis- spelled.

So a case in point. I have been trying to follow the timeline of an Abraham Firr through the 1800s. He was born as Fir but adopted Firr later as did the whole family so we have a genuine variant and I use the "addirional names" field in FH to record these. However apart from one census which gives him as Fir I have encountered Fier, Burr, Lee, Tinn and Furze so far on other records ( carefully cross referenced and they are all him!). Do others just ignore these types of error and record in FH under the name intended or would you capture them as notes to the event or as alternative names?
I,m sure there are many different approaches so interested to see what others do?
with thanks
John


Re: How do you deal with transcription errors?

Victor Markham
 

John

If the error is in the census and you can check the census there is an option to report this. Also if the spelling in the cenus is wrong then again there is an option to report this. I have done this a number of times when looking at the census on Ancestry.

If the error is on the BMD index there is an option to report this. You can also see if it is recorded on YorkshireBMD. The transcribers of YorkshireBMD are from the local registration office looking at the original certificates on microfiche. The advantage of the marriage details on Yorkshire BMD is they add the location of where the marriage took place ..Register Office or name of church. When I note the spelling is wrong I would use the correct spelling and ad a note stating is was spelt...xxx on xxx

Victor

On 03/08/2020 8:25 am, johnfirr via groups.io wrote:
This is not a software query as such, more of an interest in how others record certain issues in FH.

In my family history reserach I am dogged with transcription problems in both indexes and many original documents. Almost every individual seems to go missing from the timeline but turns up if you search for alternative spellings.
I,m not surprised by this I have gone through life spelling my surname (Firr) to people as its almost always mis- spelled.

So a case in point. I have been trying to follow the timeline of an Abraham Firr through the 1800s. He was born as Fir but adopted Firr later as did the whole family so we have a genuine variant and I use the "addirional names" field in FH to record these. However apart from one census which gives him as Fir I have encountered Fier, Burr, Lee, Tinn and Furze so far on other records ( carefully cross referenced and they are all him!). Do others just ignore these types of error and record in FH under the name intended or would you capture them as notes to the event or as alternative names?
I,m sure there are many different approaches so interested to see what others do?
with thanks
John


Re: How do you deal with transcription errors?

Mike Tate
 

John, my approach varies depending on where the transcription error exists and the type of document.

I guess we are primarily discussing surnames, as forenames regularly vary from document to document especially in Census returns.

 

If the error is due to an online mistranscription of an original document, especially if fairly obvious, then I will report the error to Ancestry, FindMyPast, FreeBMD, or whatever. Usually, it eventually gets corrected so nothing needs to be adjusted in my data.

 

If the error is in a Census, probably due to the enumerator getting the name wrong, then I would make a Note in the Source record, but not use the Alternate Name field unless that name became a recurring theme.

 

If the error is in a GRO Index then I would treat it in much the same way as the Census case above.

I’m not sure if there is any way to correct such mistakes.

 

If the name is in a BMD Certificate or other formal document then I would probably use the Alternate Name field.

 


Re: How do you deal with transcription errors?

Adrian Bruce
 

I have never seen the point of recording spelling variations or transcription errors against an individual. They are not facts about the individual but about the parish clerk or the transcriber. They are definitely important for finding further members of the family. I therefore try to have a Shared Note Record - except that I don't link it with anyone - that records the spelling variations and frequent transcription errors for a surname.

That's the theory.... Unfortunately....



Re: How do you deal with transcription errors?

andy@...
 

I record all the variants as alternative names. Experience has taught me that over time it's easy to forget why you have a record that, on the face of it, doesn't match your individual. The variants come in useful when searching for other records too, as the permutations in many cases have been used more than once. It gets unwieldy when there are a lot of variations - I have names with 10 or 12, especially for Irish records - but at least the information is there at hand and saved for future reference.

Andy


How do you deal with transcription errors?

johnfirr@...
 

This is not a software query as such, more of an interest in how others record certain issues in FH.

In my family history reserach I am dogged with transcription problems in both indexes and many original documents. Almost every individual seems to go missing from the timeline but turns up if you search for alternative spellings.
I,m not surprised by this I have gone through life spelling my surname (Firr) to people as its almost always mis- spelled.

So a case in point. I have been trying to follow the timeline of an Abraham Firr through the 1800s. He was born as Fir but adopted Firr later as did the whole family so we have a genuine variant and I use the "addirional names" field in FH to record these. However apart from one census which gives him as Fir I have encountered Fier, Burr, Lee, Tinn and Furze so far on other records ( carefully cross referenced and they are all him!). Do others just ignore these types of error and record in FH under the name intended or would you capture them as notes to the event or as alternative names?
I,m sure there are many different approaches so interested to see what others do?
with thanks
John


Re: Media items in FH

Mike Tate
 

David,

Your screenshots are very poor quality, but I can just make out that it says – Family Historian Gedcom – at the top of the main FH window.

So despite what you may think, this is NOT a Project, but a free-standing GEDCOM file.

Such free-standing GEDCOM files do not have the concept of Project Media folders.

That is why you are not getting the Add Media dialogue with the Copy File(s) to: option.

 

So, can you explain why the Project folder structure has been disrupted?

Do you need advice about how to repair the folder structure?

This has been a common theme recently with several users suffering similar cases of Projects becoming free-standing GEDCOM.

It is often due to the <project-name>.fh_proj file going missing from the …\Family Historian Projects\<project-name> folder.

 


Re: Media items in FH

Ros
 

Your images are very small so it's not possible to be sure,  but I think the top of the Window says "Gedcom"?   If so you are running Family Historian in Gedcom mode.  So you need to create a Project from your Gedcom file.   If you used to have a Project the most common reason for the problem is not copying the whole Project folder (or using FH to restore a Full backup when moving to a new machine or environment.


Re: Media items in FH

David Gynes
 

Mike,

You said: 'You should have got a small add media dialogue with a Copy File(s) to: drop-list set of options.'

As I said in my original email:  'When I started to upload them to the relevant person’s media records I did not get the usual message from FH asking if I wanted to copy it into the FH itself.'

I think my “usual message`’ is your  ‘small add media dialogue’, which I am used to seeing and acting on.

I have tried adding media to different records on both devices where I run FH.  I have tried to load screen shots and scans.  None has brought up the dialogue.

I have attached 2 screenshots of the Media list for two attempts I made this morning, one from a scan and the other a screenshot.  You will see that nearly all the other media associated with these two persons is stored in media\……. (except one rogue one that I uploaded from a backup copy in Dropbox which I need to delete).

I have tried it on both computers in case I messed up the settings when I moved FH from a Mac desktop running a virtual Windows machine to a Windows laptop (a process you kindly helped me achieve).   The other machine has been running FH happily for years and yet shows the same results.

I would welcome any further advice. For example, is there a way of changing the instruction which you suggested has reverted to the default, without actually getting that dialogue box to show?

Thanks again for your help.

David

David Gynes
specbear@...





On 30 Jul 2020, at 17:27, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

You should have got a small add media dialogue with a Copy File(s) to: drop-list set of options.

It may have defaulted to <Don’t copy – link only> so click on that and choose <Default Location within Project Folder> or one of the other options.

If you don’t want to delete those new entries and start again then try the following.

Use File Explorer to copy the media images from the USB stick to your Project’s internal Media folder, but do NOT change the filename.

Then in FH use Tools > External File Links and click the Auto Repair Links button.

Mike Tate





Re: places in Show Timeline Facts

Barbara Levergood
 

Thanks again, Mike and Lorna. Your suggestions were spot-on!

On 7/30/2020 7:26 AM, Barbara Levergood wrote:
Thanks Mike and Lorna. I will experiment with those options.

Barbara

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On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 6:15 AM -0400, "Mike Tate" <post@tatewise.co.uk <mailto:post@tatewise.co.uk>> wrote:

In a similar vein, there is the Quick Family Facts plugin that
shows Birth, Baptism, Marriage, Death, Burial details for the
immediate family group of Individual, Father, Mother, Partners,
Siblings & Children.

Mike Tate

*From:*family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> *On
Behalf Of *Lorna Craig via groups.io
*Sent:* 30 July 2020 10:36
*To:* family-historian@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [family-historian] places in Show Timeline Facts

In addition to the suggestions Mike has made, you may not be aware
that you can create diagram text schemes which show a variety of
information.???? For my everyday ???working diagram??? type I use a text
scheme which includes not only the places of birth/baptism,
marriage and death/burial but also census locations and emigration
events.?? You can view a chosen family group of just two or three
generations and all their key dates and locations are visible.?? I
like being able to see the group as a whole, rather than just one
person???s timeline.

Lorna

--

Barbara Levergood
levergood@att.net


Re: Internet Data Match issue

Mike Tate
 

Edward,

There are two Plugins designed to help with searching for missing sources:

Lookup Missing BMD Records

Lookup Missing Census Facts

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:internet_data_matches refers to them.

 


Re: Internet Data Match issue

Victor Markham
 

I don't subscribe to either but do to ancestry. I have family tree maker and from time to time copy tree to FTM which gives me hints to ancestry. I also get emails from ancestry with hints

Victor

On 30 Jul 2020, at 19:07, edwardrowland45@... wrote:
Mike
I do not subscribe to FindMyPast or MyHeritage but I do to Ancestry and use FamilySearch. I am interested in your observation that there are Plugins that help discover most 'hints' with searches of other sites.

Edward Rowland


Re: Internet Data Match issue

edwardrowland45@...
 

Mike
I do not subscribe to FindMyPast or MyHeritage but I do to Ancestry and use FamilySearch. I am interested in your observation that there are Plugins that help discover most 'hints' with searches of other sites.

Edward Rowland


Re: Media items in FH

David Gynes
 

Thank you Mike and Brian

I shall have a go tomorrow.

Watch this space!

David
David Gynes



On 30 Jul 2020, at 17:27, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

You should have got a small add media dialogue with a Copy File(s) to: drop-list set of options.

It may have defaulted to <Don’t copy – link only> so click on that and choose <Default Location within Project Folder> or one of the other options.

If you don’t want to delete those new entries and start again then try the following.

Use File Explorer to copy the media images from the USB stick to your Project’s internal Media folder, but do NOT change the filename.

Then in FH use Tools > External File Links and click the Auto Repair Links button.

Mike Tate


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