Date   

GRO

Victor Markham
 

I have used the GRO plugin quite a lot

It is great but on FreeBMD after 1983 it doesn't list the quarters.

Is there an option on GRO just to show the year he event took place

As things are I always end up with the first quarter. Is there a way of leaving this blank i.e. not showing a quarter

Victor


Re: Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

UK kris
 

Brilliant Mike,

 

Also thanks to everyone for their advice.

 

I will do as you say, Mike, and take it a step at a time.  Country first, starting with England, then Scotland, Wales and Ireland. 

If it’s ok with you I’ll check back when the UK is done, or if I find a load of Counties missing their Country.

The foreign countries can wait a while. 

 

Once again, thanks for your patience.

 

Kristeen

 


Re: Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

Andrew Braid
 

A further advantage of the reverse display is that you don't have to worry about how many levels there are in a place. Of course you must be consistent in the parish, town, county, country order.

It should help in spotting gaps but I have never used in this way.

Andrew Braid


On Sun, Jan 24, 2021, 15:05 John Hanson <john.hanson@...> wrote:

One trick that Simon himself showed me a few months ago when talking about this issue was to use the “reverse display order” box at the bottom of the list of button

 

This sort the screen in the reverse order and easier to see instantly where the countries are missing

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 24 January 2021 13:45
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

 

No, as advised by Adrian, don’t add Addresses to Places yet.

 

First, add the Country to all Places where that is missing.

Use the Tools > Work with Data > Places… dialogue.

That has columns headed Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, etc, so if necessary use the Columns… button to increase that to at least 4 columns.

Your objective is to ensure Part 1 holds the Parish, Part 2 holds the City, Part 3 holds the County and Part 4 holds the Country.

 

If you have a significant number of foreign, particularly USA place names that also needs a State, then that column alignment may need revising.

e.g. Parish, City, County, State, Country where in the UK you can use …, Norfolk, England, UK and in USA use …, Washington County, Alabama, USA

That will need 5 columns.

 

Select any Place name that needs adjusting and click Edit… and then Edit… again in the popup dialogue.

Edit Place Name until it has all the columns needed leaving a blank space between commas where necessary.

 

Eventually the Tools > Work with Data > Places… place list should have each column Part filled in or blank.

Click on each Part column header in turn so that it is sorted alphabetically.

So if you click on the column header holding Country then they should be listed in order.

 

If you feel you have far too many Place names to edit by hand then we may need to use the ‘Search and Replace’ plugin.

e.g. If you have a great many places in Norfolk without England then that plugin could convert them all in one go.

 

When all your Place names have been tidied then we can move on to Address fields.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of UK kris
Sent: 24 January 2021 12:43
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

 

Ok Mike, got that message loud and clear. :)

 

Can I have your opinion on my going into every entry and adding the address to the place ensuring I have the correct number of columns and/or commas, irrespective of how many hours it may take me?

 

Kristeen. 

 

Kristeen Simpkin


On 24 Jan 2021, at 8:17 pm, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



DO NOT USE the ‘Find and Replace’ command to modify Place fields. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

I have lost count of how many time I have given that warning.

Don’t come asking me to fix the resulting multiple Place records.

Mike Tate


Re: Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

John Hanson
 

One trick that Simon himself showed me a few months ago when talking about this issue was to use the “reverse display order” box at the bottom of the list of button

 

This sort the screen in the reverse order and easier to see instantly where the countries are missing

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 24 January 2021 13:45
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

 

No, as advised by Adrian, don’t add Addresses to Places yet.

 

First, add the Country to all Places where that is missing.

Use the Tools > Work with Data > Places… dialogue.

That has columns headed Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, etc, so if necessary use the Columns… button to increase that to at least 4 columns.

Your objective is to ensure Part 1 holds the Parish, Part 2 holds the City, Part 3 holds the County and Part 4 holds the Country.

 

If you have a significant number of foreign, particularly USA place names that also needs a State, then that column alignment may need revising.

e.g. Parish, City, County, State, Country where in the UK you can use …, Norfolk, England, UK and in USA use …, Washington County, Alabama, USA

That will need 5 columns.

 

Select any Place name that needs adjusting and click Edit… and then Edit… again in the popup dialogue.

Edit Place Name until it has all the columns needed leaving a blank space between commas where necessary.

 

Eventually the Tools > Work with Data > Places… place list should have each column Part filled in or blank.

Click on each Part column header in turn so that it is sorted alphabetically.

So if you click on the column header holding Country then they should be listed in order.

 

If you feel you have far too many Place names to edit by hand then we may need to use the ‘Search and Replace’ plugin.

e.g. If you have a great many places in Norfolk without England then that plugin could convert them all in one go.

 

When all your Place names have been tidied then we can move on to Address fields.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of UK kris
Sent: 24 January 2021 12:43
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

 

Ok Mike, got that message loud and clear. :)

 

Can I have your opinion on my going into every entry and adding the address to the place ensuring I have the correct number of columns and/or commas, irrespective of how many hours it may take me?

 

Kristeen. 

 

Kristeen Simpkin


On 24 Jan 2021, at 8:17 pm, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



DO NOT USE the ‘Find and Replace’ command to modify Place fields. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

I have lost count of how many time I have given that warning.

Don’t come asking me to fix the resulting multiple Place records.

Mike Tate


Re: Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

Mike Tate
 

No, as advised by Adrian, don’t add Addresses to Places yet.

 

First, add the Country to all Places where that is missing.

Use the Tools > Work with Data > Places… dialogue.

That has columns headed Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, etc, so if necessary use the Columns… button to increase that to at least 4 columns.

Your objective is to ensure Part 1 holds the Parish, Part 2 holds the City, Part 3 holds the County and Part 4 holds the Country.

 

If you have a significant number of foreign, particularly USA place names that also needs a State, then that column alignment may need revising.

e.g. Parish, City, County, State, Country where in the UK you can use …, Norfolk, England, UK and in USA use …, Washington County, Alabama, USA

That will need 5 columns.

 

Select any Place name that needs adjusting and click Edit… and then Edit… again in the popup dialogue.

Edit Place Name until it has all the columns needed leaving a blank space between commas where necessary.

 

Eventually the Tools > Work with Data > Places… place list should have each column Part filled in or blank.

Click on each Part column header in turn so that it is sorted alphabetically.

So if you click on the column header holding Country then they should be listed in order.

 

If you feel you have far too many Place names to edit by hand then we may need to use the ‘Search and Replace’ plugin.

e.g. If you have a great many places in Norfolk without England then that plugin could convert them all in one go.

 

When all your Place names have been tidied then we can move on to Address fields.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of UK kris
Sent: 24 January 2021 12:43
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

 

Ok Mike, got that message loud and clear. :)

 

Can I have your opinion on my going into every entry and adding the address to the place ensuring I have the correct number of columns and/or commas, irrespective of how many hours it may take me?

 

Kristeen. 

 

Kristeen Simpkin


On 24 Jan 2021, at 8:17 pm, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



DO NOT USE the ‘Find and Replace’ command to modify Place fields. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

I have lost count of how many time I have given that warning.

Don’t come asking me to fix the resulting multiple Place records.

Mike Tate


Re: Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

Lorna Craig
 

Kristeen,

I'm in agreement with Adrian on this.

The first step is to tidy up the Place records by making sure they all have a country included, and that they all have the same number of comma separated parts, so that the country is always in the same (last) column.  It doesn't matter if some places have some blank parts - just insert the right number of commas.  You will need to do that manually.

The second step is to tidy up the Addresses (Use Tools>Work with Data>Addresses) so they also follow a regular pattern.

Then, and only then, you need to consider whether you want to add all the addresses into Place records.  This will mean you end up with a huge number of Place records, but some people prefer to work that way.  That stage can probably be automated if you want to do it, but you don't need to decide that until after you have tidied up the existing Places and Addresses.

Lorna

On 24/01/2021 12:43, UK kris wrote:
Ok Mike, got that message loud and clear. :)

Can I have your opinion on my going into every entry and adding the address to the place ensuring I have the correct number of columns and/or commas, irrespective of how many hours it may take me?

Kristeen.

Kristeen Simpkin


Re: Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

UK kris
 

Ok Mike, got that message loud and clear. :)

Can I have your opinion on my going into every entry and adding the address to the place ensuring I have the correct number of columns and/or commas, irrespective of how many hours it may take me?

Kristeen. 

Kristeen Simpkin

On 24 Jan 2021, at 8:17 pm, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



DO NOT USE the ‘Find and Replace’ command to modify Place fields. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

I have lost count of how many time I have given that warning.

Don’t come asking me to fix the resulting multiple Place records.

Mike Tate


Re: Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

Mike Tate
 

DO NOT USE the ‘Find and Replace’ command to modify Place fields. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

I have lost count of how many time I have given that warning.

Don’t come asking me to fix the resulting multiple Place records.

Mike Tate


Re: Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

Adrian Bruce
 

Kristeen,
Forgive me but I'm a touch concerned about what you want / need to do.
The Plug-in won't help at all with updating your "Norfolk" to
"Norfolk, England" (or even "Norfolk, Virginia, USA") In fact, if you
add addresses into your place-names *first*, you'll get a much bigger
job to do because you'll get multiple entries per town in the
place-name, all of which need to be corrected.

Really, you should update the Place-records first to add the
countries, and hopefully you can just do that from the Places tab. If,
of course, you have references to "London" and you don't know if
that's "London, England" or "London, Ontario, Canada", then you have
to go to the people's facts, check it there and update it there.

As for your 2nd stage of adding / merging the address into the
place-name - I'd question why you want to do it. Yes, it's easier to
map individual addresses if you do that - but is that what you want to
do, or do you just need to print reports that make it clear which
Whitchurch it is? The plug-in will give you a very regimented view of
the data - do you need that? You might - but you need to ask yourself
the question...

Adrian


Re: Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

David Wilkinson
 


I adopted a strategy of only using places, but some others choose to use both place and address. An example of how I do a Place is

, 2 Claytons Cottages, Arkley, Barnet, Hertfordshire, England

i.e. Business or house name
street address
hamlet
town or village
county
country

for US places it is

house or business name
street addresss
town
county
state
country

i.e. country is always in column 6

Hope that helps

David

On 24/01/2021 11:50, UK kris wrote:
Thanks for the hint David.
I have started some Find and replace  but I’m finding it hard to “see” how I really want the combined place name to look.

Kristeen 


Kristeen Simpkin

On 24 Jan 2021, at 5:57 pm, David Wilkinson <dewilkinson9@...> wrote:



Just a thought, have you tried using the Find and Replace option under the Edit menu, you can limit changes to just Places, or Addresses as you wish. I have successfully used this many times as well as the Search and Replace plugin. You would need to be careful if a place refers to more than one location though, i.e. Amsterdam and New Amsterdam. Just make a back up first though just in case and inspect the results output.

David Wilkinson

On 24/01/2021 08:16, UK kris wrote:

Thanks for that Victor,

When I started FH the vast majority of the family was based in Norfolk, and I thought “I know where Norfolk is”.  As time went on I found “foreigners”, and thought I know where Amsterdam is, etc., etc.,

It was only upgrading to 7 that I thought I really should tidy all the Addresses, Places and get consistency.  Hence my thinking “Oh, that plugin will do it easy.” Not so easy when I started looking at how many times I’ve changed adding in commas for blanks etc., ……

 

I saw Working with Places and Addresses for New Users and realised it’s a major revamp but as I am being asked by family  members for info I want to spend the time getting everything neat and tidy.

Kristeen

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 24 January 2021 15:57
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

 

You say 'sometimes' added country. You should always add country. When it comes to Yorkshire always add East, North, West and (these days) South. There are similar named places in each part of the county

Victor

On 24/01/2021 4:07 am, UK kris wrote:

Hi Mike, thanks for the prompt response. 

I have most place names as “parish, City, County “ sometimes I’ve added “Country”. 

In address it can be “Name of building/street number, street number, street name “.

So I want to add the address to the place beginning with building name/street # etc to the left of the place details, and presume the 2nd step will be to add the country to the enf/right of  place names. 

Also, in place have used “Regn District - “Name” for those GRO  B, M, D indices. 

 

Do I?

1) select all in input filter

2) open mapping options tab

3) select copy all address parts to all place parts

4) do I need to change the numbers ?

5) select erase place parts duplicating address parts ?

6) left justify all place parts to place 1

7) perform rearrangement of parts. 

Kristeen Simpkin


On 24 Jan 2021, at 1:34 am, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



Hi Kristeen,

It would be helpful if you could identify the plugin and exactly what you want to reassign.

I presume you are talking about the ‘Rearrange Address and Place Parts’ plugin.

Have you tried reading the guide via the ‘Help and Advice’ button?

 

The ‘Output Column Part’ rows identify all the Address and Place column parts you have allowed via Tools > Work with Data > Addresses/Places.

For each ‘Output Column Part’ choose the ‘Input Column Part’ you want to be assigned to that part.

If you want the current Address 1 part to move to the Place 1 part then in the droplist to the left of Place 1 choose Address 1.

If you want the Address 1 output to be cleared then select <blank> on its left.

 

The ‘Input Filter’ tab allows you to choose which Address & Place combinations you want to change.

 

Please explain how you want your Address fields to be reassigned to Place names and what you want to happen to the current Place name columns.

 

Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of kristeen.simpkin30@...
Sent: 23 January 2021 17:10
To: family-historian@groups.io; 'Mike Tate' <post@...>
Subject: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names.

 

Hi Mike,

 

I have accessed the Plug In to reassign my addresses to Place Names but have absolutely no idea how to use it.

I clicked on the Input Filter Tab, and then had no idea what to do next.

Can you give me step by step instructions, please.

 

Regards

 

Kristeen Simpkin


Virus-free. www.avg.com



Re: Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

UK kris
 

Thanks for the hint David.
I have started some Find and replace  but I’m finding it hard to “see” how I really want the combined place name to look.

Kristeen 


Kristeen Simpkin

On 24 Jan 2021, at 5:57 pm, David Wilkinson <dewilkinson9@...> wrote:



Just a thought, have you tried using the Find and Replace option under the Edit menu, you can limit changes to just Places, or Addresses as you wish. I have successfully used this many times as well as the Search and Replace plugin. You would need to be careful if a place refers to more than one location though, i.e. Amsterdam and New Amsterdam. Just make a back up first though just in case and inspect the results output.

David Wilkinson

On 24/01/2021 08:16, UK kris wrote:

Thanks for that Victor,

When I started FH the vast majority of the family was based in Norfolk, and I thought “I know where Norfolk is”.  As time went on I found “foreigners”, and thought I know where Amsterdam is, etc., etc.,

It was only upgrading to 7 that I thought I really should tidy all the Addresses, Places and get consistency.  Hence my thinking “Oh, that plugin will do it easy.” Not so easy when I started looking at how many times I’ve changed adding in commas for blanks etc., ……

 

I saw Working with Places and Addresses for New Users and realised it’s a major revamp but as I am being asked by family  members for info I want to spend the time getting everything neat and tidy.

Kristeen

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 24 January 2021 15:57
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

 

You say 'sometimes' added country. You should always add country. When it comes to Yorkshire always add East, North, West and (these days) South. There are similar named places in each part of the county

Victor

On 24/01/2021 4:07 am, UK kris wrote:

Hi Mike, thanks for the prompt response. 

I have most place names as “parish, City, County “ sometimes I’ve added “Country”. 

In address it can be “Name of building/street number, street number, street name “.

So I want to add the address to the place beginning with building name/street # etc to the left of the place details, and presume the 2nd step will be to add the country to the enf/right of  place names. 

Also, in place have used “Regn District - “Name” for those GRO  B, M, D indices. 

 

Do I?

1) select all in input filter

2) open mapping options tab

3) select copy all address parts to all place parts

4) do I need to change the numbers ?

5) select erase place parts duplicating address parts ?

6) left justify all place parts to place 1

7) perform rearrangement of parts. 

Kristeen Simpkin


On 24 Jan 2021, at 1:34 am, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



Hi Kristeen,

It would be helpful if you could identify the plugin and exactly what you want to reassign.

I presume you are talking about the ‘Rearrange Address and Place Parts’ plugin.

Have you tried reading the guide via the ‘Help and Advice’ button?

 

The ‘Output Column Part’ rows identify all the Address and Place column parts you have allowed via Tools > Work with Data > Addresses/Places.

For each ‘Output Column Part’ choose the ‘Input Column Part’ you want to be assigned to that part.

If you want the current Address 1 part to move to the Place 1 part then in the droplist to the left of Place 1 choose Address 1.

If you want the Address 1 output to be cleared then select <blank> on its left.

 

The ‘Input Filter’ tab allows you to choose which Address & Place combinations you want to change.

 

Please explain how you want your Address fields to be reassigned to Place names and what you want to happen to the current Place name columns.

 

Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of kristeen.simpkin30@...
Sent: 23 January 2021 17:10
To: family-historian@groups.io; 'Mike Tate' <post@...>
Subject: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names.

 

Hi Mike,

 

I have accessed the Plug In to reassign my addresses to Place Names but have absolutely no idea how to use it.

I clicked on the Input Filter Tab, and then had no idea what to do next.

Can you give me step by step instructions, please.

 

Regards

 

Kristeen Simpkin


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Customise Property Box

David Hodgson-Brown
 

Hi

 

I have just worked out how to do this. Please ignore.

 

Regards

 

David Hodgson-Brown

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Hodgson-Brown
Sent: 24 January 2021 11:01
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Customise Property Box

 

Hi

 

I am migrating from RootsMagic and have lots of Christening Facts. I would like to add them to the main part of the property box, but all I can add is a Baptism. Can I change this in any way?

 

Regards

 

David Hodgson-Brown

 


Customise Property Box

David Hodgson-Brown
 

Hi

 

I am migrating from RootsMagic and have lots of Christening Facts. I would like to add them to the main part of the property box, but all I can add is a Baptism. Can I change this in any way?

 

Regards

 

David Hodgson-Brown

 


Re: Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

David Wilkinson
 


Just a thought, have you tried using the Find and Replace option under the Edit menu, you can limit changes to just Places, or Addresses as you wish. I have successfully used this many times as well as the Search and Replace plugin. You would need to be careful if a place refers to more than one location though, i.e. Amsterdam and New Amsterdam. Just make a back up first though just in case and inspect the results output.

David Wilkinson

On 24/01/2021 08:16, UK kris wrote:

Thanks for that Victor,

When I started FH the vast majority of the family was based in Norfolk, and I thought “I know where Norfolk is”.  As time went on I found “foreigners”, and thought I know where Amsterdam is, etc., etc.,

It was only upgrading to 7 that I thought I really should tidy all the Addresses, Places and get consistency.  Hence my thinking “Oh, that plugin will do it easy.” Not so easy when I started looking at how many times I’ve changed adding in commas for blanks etc., ……

 

I saw Working with Places and Addresses for New Users and realised it’s a major revamp but as I am being asked by family  members for info I want to spend the time getting everything neat and tidy.

Kristeen

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 24 January 2021 15:57
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

 

You say 'sometimes' added country. You should always add country. When it comes to Yorkshire always add East, North, West and (these days) South. There are similar named places in each part of the county

Victor

On 24/01/2021 4:07 am, UK kris wrote:

Hi Mike, thanks for the prompt response. 

I have most place names as “parish, City, County “ sometimes I’ve added “Country”. 

In address it can be “Name of building/street number, street number, street name “.

So I want to add the address to the place beginning with building name/street # etc to the left of the place details, and presume the 2nd step will be to add the country to the enf/right of  place names. 

Also, in place have used “Regn District - “Name” for those GRO  B, M, D indices. 

 

Do I?

1) select all in input filter

2) open mapping options tab

3) select copy all address parts to all place parts

4) do I need to change the numbers ?

5) select erase place parts duplicating address parts ?

6) left justify all place parts to place 1

7) perform rearrangement of parts. 

Kristeen Simpkin


On 24 Jan 2021, at 1:34 am, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



Hi Kristeen,

It would be helpful if you could identify the plugin and exactly what you want to reassign.

I presume you are talking about the ‘Rearrange Address and Place Parts’ plugin.

Have you tried reading the guide via the ‘Help and Advice’ button?

 

The ‘Output Column Part’ rows identify all the Address and Place column parts you have allowed via Tools > Work with Data > Addresses/Places.

For each ‘Output Column Part’ choose the ‘Input Column Part’ you want to be assigned to that part.

If you want the current Address 1 part to move to the Place 1 part then in the droplist to the left of Place 1 choose Address 1.

If you want the Address 1 output to be cleared then select <blank> on its left.

 

The ‘Input Filter’ tab allows you to choose which Address & Place combinations you want to change.

 

Please explain how you want your Address fields to be reassigned to Place names and what you want to happen to the current Place name columns.

 

Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of kristeen.simpkin30@...
Sent: 23 January 2021 17:10
To: family-historian@groups.io; 'Mike Tate' <post@...>
Subject: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names.

 

Hi Mike,

 

I have accessed the Plug In to reassign my addresses to Place Names but have absolutely no idea how to use it.

I clicked on the Input Filter Tab, and then had no idea what to do next.

Can you give me step by step instructions, please.

 

Regards

 

Kristeen Simpkin


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

UK kris
 

Thanks for that Victor,

When I started FH the vast majority of the family was based in Norfolk, and I thought “I know where Norfolk is”.  As time went on I found “foreigners”, and thought I know where Amsterdam is, etc., etc.,

It was only upgrading to 7 that I thought I really should tidy all the Addresses, Places and get consistency.  Hence my thinking “Oh, that plugin will do it easy.” Not so easy when I started looking at how many times I’ve changed adding in commas for blanks etc., ……

 

I saw Working with Places and Addresses for New Users and realised it’s a major revamp but as I am being asked by family  members for info I want to spend the time getting everything neat and tidy.

Kristeen

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 24 January 2021 15:57
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

 

You say 'sometimes' added country. You should always add country. When it comes to Yorkshire always add East, North, West and (these days) South. There are similar named places in each part of the county

Victor

On 24/01/2021 4:07 am, UK kris wrote:

Hi Mike, thanks for the prompt response. 

I have most place names as “parish, City, County “ sometimes I’ve added “Country”. 

In address it can be “Name of building/street number, street number, street name “.

So I want to add the address to the place beginning with building name/street # etc to the left of the place details, and presume the 2nd step will be to add the country to the enf/right of  place names. 

Also, in place have used “Regn District - “Name” for those GRO  B, M, D indices. 

 

Do I?

1) select all in input filter

2) open mapping options tab

3) select copy all address parts to all place parts

4) do I need to change the numbers ?

5) select erase place parts duplicating address parts ?

6) left justify all place parts to place 1

7) perform rearrangement of parts. 

Kristeen Simpkin


On 24 Jan 2021, at 1:34 am, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



Hi Kristeen,

It would be helpful if you could identify the plugin and exactly what you want to reassign.

I presume you are talking about the ‘Rearrange Address and Place Parts’ plugin.

Have you tried reading the guide via the ‘Help and Advice’ button?

 

The ‘Output Column Part’ rows identify all the Address and Place column parts you have allowed via Tools > Work with Data > Addresses/Places.

For each ‘Output Column Part’ choose the ‘Input Column Part’ you want to be assigned to that part.

If you want the current Address 1 part to move to the Place 1 part then in the droplist to the left of Place 1 choose Address 1.

If you want the Address 1 output to be cleared then select <blank> on its left.

 

The ‘Input Filter’ tab allows you to choose which Address & Place combinations you want to change.

 

Please explain how you want your Address fields to be reassigned to Place names and what you want to happen to the current Place name columns.

 

Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of kristeen.simpkin30@...
Sent: 23 January 2021 17:10
To: family-historian@groups.io; 'Mike Tate' <post@...>
Subject: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names.

 

Hi Mike,

 

I have accessed the Plug In to reassign my addresses to Place Names but have absolutely no idea how to use it.

I clicked on the Input Filter Tab, and then had no idea what to do next.

Can you give me step by step instructions, please.

 

Regards

 

Kristeen Simpkin


Re: Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

Victor Markham
 

You say 'sometimes' added country. You should always add country. When it comes to Yorkshire always add East, North, West and (these days) South. There are similar named places in each part of the county

Victor

On 24/01/2021 4:07 am, UK kris wrote:
Hi Mike, thanks for the prompt response. 
I have most place names as “parish, City, County “ sometimes I’ve added “Country”. 
In address it can be “Name of building/street number, street number, street name “.
So I want to add the address to the place beginning with building name/street # etc to the left of the place details, and presume the 2nd step will be to add the country to the enf/right of  place names. 
Also, in place have used “Regn District - “Name” for those GRO  B, M, D indices. 

Do I?
1) select all in input filter
2) open mapping options tab
3) select copy all address parts to all place parts
4) do I need to change the numbers ?
5) select erase place parts duplicating address parts ?
6) left justify all place parts to place 1
7) perform rearrangement of parts. 

Kristeen Simpkin

On 24 Jan 2021, at 1:34 am, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



Hi Kristeen,

It would be helpful if you could identify the plugin and exactly what you want to reassign.

I presume you are talking about the ‘Rearrange Address and Place Parts’ plugin.

Have you tried reading the guide via the ‘Help and Advice’ button?

 

The ‘Output Column Part’ rows identify all the Address and Place column parts you have allowed via Tools > Work with Data > Addresses/Places.

For each ‘Output Column Part’ choose the ‘Input Column Part’ you want to be assigned to that part.

If you want the current Address 1 part to move to the Place 1 part then in the droplist to the left of Place 1 choose Address 1.

If you want the Address 1 output to be cleared then select <blank> on its left.

 

The ‘Input Filter’ tab allows you to choose which Address & Place combinations you want to change.

 

Please explain how you want your Address fields to be reassigned to Place names and what you want to happen to the current Place name columns.

 

Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of kristeen.simpkin30@...
Sent: 23 January 2021 17:10
To: family-historian@groups.io; 'Mike Tate' <post@...>
Subject: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names.

 

Hi Mike,

 

I have accessed the Plug In to reassign my addresses to Place Names but have absolutely no idea how to use it.

I clicked on the Input Filter Tab, and then had no idea what to do next.

Can you give me step by step instructions, please.

 

Regards

 

Kristeen Simpkin


Re: Reassign Addresses to Place Names plugin.

UK kris
 

Hi Mike, thanks for the prompt response. 
I have most place names as “parish, City, County “ sometimes I’ve added “Country”. 
In address it can be “Name of building/street number, street number, street name “.
So I want to add the address to the place beginning with building name/street # etc to the left of the place details, and presume the 2nd step will be to add the country to the enf/right of  place names. 
Also, in place have used “Regn District - “Name” for those GRO  B, M, D indices. 

Do I?
1) select all in input filter
2) open mapping options tab
3) select copy all address parts to all place parts
4) do I need to change the numbers ?
5) select erase place parts duplicating address parts ?
6) left justify all place parts to place 1
7) perform rearrangement of parts. 

Kristeen Simpkin

On 24 Jan 2021, at 1:34 am, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



Hi Kristeen,

It would be helpful if you could identify the plugin and exactly what you want to reassign.

I presume you are talking about the ‘Rearrange Address and Place Parts’ plugin.

Have you tried reading the guide via the ‘Help and Advice’ button?

 

The ‘Output Column Part’ rows identify all the Address and Place column parts you have allowed via Tools > Work with Data > Addresses/Places.

For each ‘Output Column Part’ choose the ‘Input Column Part’ you want to be assigned to that part.

If you want the current Address 1 part to move to the Place 1 part then in the droplist to the left of Place 1 choose Address 1.

If you want the Address 1 output to be cleared then select <blank> on its left.

 

The ‘Input Filter’ tab allows you to choose which Address & Place combinations you want to change.

 

Please explain how you want your Address fields to be reassigned to Place names and what you want to happen to the current Place name columns.

 

Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of kristeen.simpkin30@...
Sent: 23 January 2021 17:10
To: family-historian@groups.io; 'Mike Tate' <post@...>
Subject: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names.

 

Hi Mike,

 

I have accessed the Plug In to reassign my addresses to Place Names but have absolutely no idea how to use it.

I clicked on the Input Filter Tab, and then had no idea what to do next.

Can you give me step by step instructions, please.

 

Regards

 

Kristeen Simpkin


Re: Reassign Addresses to Place Names.

Mike Tate
 

Hi Kristeen,

It would be helpful if you could identify the plugin and exactly what you want to reassign.

I presume you are talking about the ‘Rearrange Address and Place Parts’ plugin.

Have you tried reading the guide via the ‘Help and Advice’ button?

 

The ‘Output Column Part’ rows identify all the Address and Place column parts you have allowed via Tools > Work with Data > Addresses/Places.

For each ‘Output Column Part’ choose the ‘Input Column Part’ you want to be assigned to that part.

If you want the current Address 1 part to move to the Place 1 part then in the droplist to the left of Place 1 choose Address 1.

If you want the Address 1 output to be cleared then select <blank> on its left.

 

The ‘Input Filter’ tab allows you to choose which Address & Place combinations you want to change.

 

Please explain how you want your Address fields to be reassigned to Place names and what you want to happen to the current Place name columns.

 

Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of kristeen.simpkin30@...
Sent: 23 January 2021 17:10
To: family-historian@groups.io; 'Mike Tate' <post@...>
Subject: [family-historian] Reassign Addresses to Place Names.

 

Hi Mike,

 

I have accessed the Plug In to reassign my addresses to Place Names but have absolutely no idea how to use it.

I clicked on the Input Filter Tab, and then had no idea what to do next.

Can you give me step by step instructions, please.

 

Regards

 

Kristeen Simpkin


Reassign Addresses to Place Names.

UK kris
 

Hi Mike,

 

I have accessed the Plug In to reassign my addresses to Place Names but have absolutely no idea how to use it.

I clicked on the Input Filter Tab, and then had no idea what to do next.

Can you give me step by step instructions, please.

 

Regards

 

Kristeen Simpkin


Re: Internet Matches - no updating in FHv7 once accepted/rejected

Mike Tate
 

Calico Pie very rarely reveal their plans, so you cannot read anything into them saying nothing about what steps they might take.

Occasionally, they have promised to fix a bug I’ve reported in a future release, but they don’t talk about new or revised features.

They say it is to maintain commercial confidentiality.

In other discussions on the subject of MyHeritage and FMP hints having problems with the internal browser Calico Pie have clearly indicated they are aware of the problems which are sometimes with the MyHeritage API or FMP API as well as the IE Shell API. So there is little doubt they are aware.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Jordan
Sent: 21 January 2021 17:01
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Internet Matches - no updating in FHv7 once accepted/rejected

 

Mike

 

When I raised the issue with Calico Pie I was simply told to use the External browser facility. It would have been nice if they had said that they were aware of the problem and would be taking steps in due course to make the necessary changes. Unfortunately they did not so one is left with the impression that they do not intend to do anything about it.

 

Robert Jordan

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com

 

On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 12:38, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Robert, you are confusing the user browsers with the API that programs must use, as has been mentioned before.

Yes, Microsoft Edge came out 5 years ago, but only recently radically changed to a Chrome based engine.

 

For many, many years Microsoft has only provided a browser API based on the Internet Explorer engine.

So that is what Calico Pie and every other developer have to use and is what every version of FH uses.

 

Microsoft offered the WebView and then WebView2 browser API based on Edge only last year.

So with all the other changes, that was too late for CP to incorporate into the FH v7.0 first release.

 

Just because a product is not supported does not stop it from working.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Jordan
Sent: 21 January 2021 07:51
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Internet Matches - no updating in FHv7 once accepted/rejected

 

Ian

You are not alone. The advice from Calico Pie is to use the External web browser rather than the web search facility, which makes one wonder why they have put in a facility and then recommend it be not used.

A cursory examination of the Microsoft website seems to suggest that they have for some time been advising Devolopers to switch (Microsoft Edge came out 5 years ago) and Internet Explorer will cease to be supported some time this year., I think in August so who knows what will happen then

 

Robert Jordan

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com

 

On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 07:03, ianpmitchell via groups.io <ianpmitchell=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have switched back to using the FH web browser so that the hints update automatically but every now and then get a big banner to say "Internet Explorer is going to stop working, use Edge".

 

 

 

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