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Re: Backups, Saves and retrieving data

Mike Tate
 

If you click the Help button in the Revert to Snapshot dialogue it tells you all about when they are taken.

They are taken at most once per day but only when changed data is saved.

That is why I suggested using the Snapshot taken first thing today.

 

You have not given me any feedback on what the File > Project Window says for Last Updated.

 

I have to admit that it is very strange for FH to lose data the way you are describing.

 

Now I presume you know where you are saving the FH Full Backup ZIP files.

They should be named similar to FH Project Backup - <projectname> - 2020-05-23 1234.zip

Where <projectname> is your Project Name and the numbers the date & time created.

If you create them as regularly as you say, there should be lots of them to choose from.

 

So use File > Backup/Restore > Restore Backup and select an appropriate backup from late yesterday.

It will recreate a copy of your Project but with a suffix (2) on its name, so your current Project is not affected.

Does that recover your lost data?

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Merrifield Alpacas
Sent: 24 May 2020 17:56
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Backups, Saves and retrieving data

 

Hello again Mike,

 

The only thing I had done this morning was to add the adopted and real birth status to a family member following the advice given on another thread.  I have taken the Revert Snapshot straight back to yesterday but still nothing.  How often do these Snapshots take place?

 

I don’t believe I moved any files elsewhere but of course when someone asks the question you start doubting!

 

Shirley

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 24 May 2020 17:32
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Backups, Saves and retrieving data

 

So you are saying you closed FH as normal yesterday but when you opened it today the File > Project Window says Last Updated was before yesterday?

 

Nothing unusual has happened between yesterday and today? You have not been moving or deleting any files anywhere?

 

Anyway, if you used the File > Backup/Restore > Full Backup command or the similar Full Backup prompt when you closed FH at the end of yesterday, then that should be a way forward, but let us try Snapshots first.

 

Use File > Backup/Restore > Revert to Snapshot and choose the Snapshot Taken today and click Revert to Snapshot.

If that does not recover your database then repeat the command and try yesterday’s Snapshot.

BTW: It saves your current database as Pre-revert type of Snapshot that can be restored if necessary.

 

Let me know if that recovers any of your database.

 

Regards, Mike Tate


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Re: Changing text of individual report

Mike Tate
 

Jorge, when starting a new topic could you please start a new posting with a new Subject otherwise it gets confusing.

If there is very little associated data such as Witnesses and Citations then the easiest is to delete the old fact and enter the new one.

Otherwise, you need to use the Change Any Fact Tag Plugin, but start a new posting if you need more detailed advice.

 

BTW: Do you know there is much advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base for migrating your database from TMG to FH?

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jorge Planas Campos
Sent: 24 May 2020 16:22
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Changing text of individual report

 

Thank you Mike, I’m a newbie with this program (previously TMG fan). Another question: how to change a Fact? Imagine I wrote up a Death fact when it really should be a Burial: do I have to make a new one and delete the old one or is there a simple way to change from Death to Burial?

 

Jorge

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: domingo, 24 de mayo de 2020 17:19
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Changing text of individual report

 

No, I am sorry, but there are several such English phrases in Reports that cannot be customised.

In the FHUG Forums there have been many discussions about automatically translating to foreign languages but without success.

The best solution so far is to save the Report as a PDF and submit it to a free online translation service such as Google Translate.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of jorgeplanas@...
Sent: 24 May 2020 12:56
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Changing text of individual report

 

I am trying to change the individual report to Spanish, but I find I cannot change the sentence regarding the number of children a couple had ("had the following children") to a sentence in Spanish. Is is somehow possible? 

,_._,_

 

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Re: Backups, Saves and retrieving data

Merrifield Alpacas
 

Hello again Mike,

 

The only thing I had done this morning was to add the adopted and real birth status to a family member following the advice given on another thread.  I have taken the Revert Snapshot straight back to yesterday but still nothing.  How often do these Snapshots take place?

 

I don’t believe I moved any files elsewhere but of course when someone asks the question you start doubting!

 

Shirley

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 24 May 2020 17:32
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Backups, Saves and retrieving data

 

So you are saying you closed FH as normal yesterday but when you opened it today the File > Project Window says Last Updated was before yesterday?

 

Nothing unusual has happened between yesterday and today? You have not been moving or deleting any files anywhere?

 

Anyway, if you used the File > Backup/Restore > Full Backup command or the similar Full Backup prompt when you closed FH at the end of yesterday, then that should be a way forward, but let us try Snapshots first.

 

Use File > Backup/Restore > Revert to Snapshot and choose the Snapshot Taken today and click Revert to Snapshot.

If that does not recover your database then repeat the command and try yesterday’s Snapshot.

BTW: It saves your current database as Pre-revert type of Snapshot that can be restored if necessary.

 

Let me know if that recovers any of your database.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Merrifield Alpacas
Sent: 24 May 2020 16:49
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Backups, Saves and retrieving data

 

I don’t suppose any of you have experienced any saving of data issues?  I have been using the Full Backup facility and having spent a full day on data gathering and entry yesterday discovered this morning its all gone despite having used both the Full Backup and the save icon a number of times throughout yesterday.  Feeing pretty hacked off at the moment.


Shirley,

Save and Backup are completely different, and there are also Snapshots saved.

Please start a new posting and we will be able to recover most if not all your data.

 

Regards, Mike Tate (tatewise)

Hi Mike, thank you for your response, the strange thing is that i had also ticked the save every 5 mins box too, so my data must be somewhere [?].Any help would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Shirley


Re: Backups, Saves and retrieving data

Mike Tate
 

So you are saying you closed FH as normal yesterday but when you opened it today the File > Project Window says Last Updated was before yesterday?

 

Nothing unusual has happened between yesterday and today? You have not been moving or deleting any files anywhere?

 

Anyway, if you used the File > Backup/Restore > Full Backup command or the similar Full Backup prompt when you closed FH at the end of yesterday, then that should be a way forward, but let us try Snapshots first.

 

Use File > Backup/Restore > Revert to Snapshot and choose the Snapshot Taken today and click Revert to Snapshot.

If that does not recover your database then repeat the command and try yesterday’s Snapshot.

BTW: It saves your current database as Pre-revert type of Snapshot that can be restored if necessary.

 

Let me know if that recovers any of your database.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Merrifield Alpacas
Sent: 24 May 2020 16:49
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Backups, Saves and retrieving data

 

I don’t suppose any of you have experienced any saving of data issues?  I have been using the Full Backup facility and having spent a full day on data gathering and entry yesterday discovered this morning its all gone despite having used both the Full Backup and the save icon a number of times throughout yesterday.  Feeing pretty hacked off at the moment.


Shirley,

Save and Backup are completely different, and there are also Snapshots saved.

Please start a new posting and we will be able to recover most if not all your data.

 

Regards, Mike Tate (tatewise)

Hi Mike, thank you for your response, the strange thing is that i had also ticked the save every 5 mins box too, so my data must be somewhere [?].Any help would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Shirley

_._,_._,_


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Re: Changing text of individual report

Jorge Planas Campos
 

Thanks for the advice and sorry for being so dumb! I had no problems in transferring from TMG to FH, it’s the wonderful report writing feature  that I have trouble with.
Jorge




On 24 May 2020, at 17:45, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



Jorge, when starting a new topic could you please start a new posting with a new Subject otherwise it gets confusing.

If there is very little associated data such as Witnesses and Citations then the easiest is to enter the new one and delete the old one.

Otherwise, you need to use the Change Any Fact Tag Plugin, but start a new posting if you need more detailed advice.

 

BTW: Do you know there is much advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base for migrating your database from TMG to FH?

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jorge Planas Campos
Sent: 24 May 2020 16:22
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Changing text of individual report

 

Thank you Mike, I’m a newbie with this program (previously TMG fan). Another question: how to change a Fact? Imagine I wrote up a Death fact when it really should be a Burial: do I have to make a new one and delete the old one or is there a simple way to change from Death to Burial?

 

Jorge


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Backups, Saves and retrieving data

Merrifield Alpacas
 

I don’t suppose any of you have experienced any saving of data issues?  I have been using the Full Backup facility and having spent a full day on data gathering and entry yesterday discovered this morning its all gone despite having used both the Full Backup and the save icon a number of times throughout yesterday.  Feeing pretty hacked off at the moment.


Shirley,

Save and Backup are completely different, and there are also Snapshots saved.

Please start a new posting and we will be able to recover most if not all your data.

 

Regards, Mike Tate (tatewise)

Hi Mike, thank you for your response, the strange thing is that i had also ticked the save every 5 mins box too, so my data must be somewhere [?].Any help would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Shirley


Re: Changing text of individual report

Mike Tate
 

Jorge, when starting a new topic could you please start a new posting with a new Subject otherwise it gets confusing.

If there is very little associated data such as Witnesses and Citations then the easiest is to enter the new one and delete the old one.

Otherwise, you need to use the Change Any Fact Tag Plugin, but start a new posting if you need more detailed advice.

 

BTW: Do you know there is much advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base for migrating your database from TMG to FH?

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jorge Planas Campos
Sent: 24 May 2020 16:22
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Changing text of individual report

 

Thank you Mike, I’m a newbie with this program (previously TMG fan). Another question: how to change a Fact? Imagine I wrote up a Death fact when it really should be a Burial: do I have to make a new one and delete the old one or is there a simple way to change from Death to Burial?

 

Jorge


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Re: Changing text of individual report

Jorge Planas Campos
 

Thank you Mike, I’m a newbie with this program (previously TMG fan). Another question: how to change a Fact? Imagine I wrote up a Death fact when it really should be a Burial: do I have to make a new one and delete the old one or is there a simple way to change from Death to Burial?

 

Jorge

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: domingo, 24 de mayo de 2020 17:19
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Changing text of individual report

 

No, I am sorry, but there are several such English phrases in Reports that cannot be customised.

In the FHUG Forums there have been many discussions about automatically translating to foreign languages but without success.

The best solution so far is to save the Report as a PDF and submit it to a free online translation service such as Google Translate.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of jorgeplanas@...
Sent: 24 May 2020 12:56
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Changing text of individual report

 

I am trying to change the individual report to Spanish, but I find I cannot change the sentence regarding the number of children a couple had ("had the following children") to a sentence in Spanish. Is is somehow possible? 

,_._,_

 

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Re: Adopted Children how can they linked in?

Mike Tate
 

Shirley,

Save and Backup are completely different, and there are also Snapshots saved.

Please start a new posting and we will be able to recover most if not all your data.

 

Regards, Mike Tate (tatewise)

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Merrifield Alpacas
Sent: 24 May 2020 11:21
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Adopted Children how can they linked in?

 

Thanks Victor.  I don’t suppose you have experienced any saving of data issues?  I have been using the Full Backup facility and having spent a full day on data gathering and entry yesterday discovered this morning its all gone despite having used both the Full Backup and the save icon a number of times throughout yesterday.  Feeing preety hacked off at the moment.

 

Regards,

 

Shirley


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Re: Changing text of individual report

Mike Tate
 

No, I am sorry, but there are several such English phrases in Reports that cannot be customised.

In the FHUG Forums there have been many discussions about automatically translating to foreign languages but without success.

The best solution so far is to save the Report as a PDF and submit it to a free online translation service such as Google Translate.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of jorgeplanas@...
Sent: 24 May 2020 12:56
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Changing text of individual report

 

I am trying to change the individual report to Spanish, but I find I cannot change the sentence regarding the number of children a couple had ("had the following children") to a sentence in Spanish. Is is somehow possible? 

,_._,_


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Changing text of individual report

Jorge Planas Campos
 

I am trying to change the individual report to Spanish, but I find I cannot change the sentence regarding the number of children a couple had ("had the following children") to a sentence in Spanish. Is is somehow possible? 


Re: Adopted Children how can they linked in?

Merrifield Alpacas
 

Thanks Victor.  I don’t suppose you have experienced any saving of data issues?  I have been using the Full Backup facility and having spent a full day on data gathering and entry yesterday discovered this morning its all gone despite having used both the Full Backup and the save icon a number of times throughout yesterday.  Feeing preety hacked off at the moment.

 

Regards,

 

Shirley

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Markham
Sent: 24 May 2020 09:52
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Adopted Children how can they linked in?

 

Hi Shirley

Thanks for the clarification.

I would simply leave the daughter under her parents name. The father's new wife simply makes her the step mother of the daughter and has no blood connection. If she did adopt the daughter a mention of this could be made under notes of the daughter. I have not heard or see no reason why a step mother would adopt a child unless she is divorced from the child's father and wanted to take the child with her. If this did happen then a note of this could be mentioned in the daughter's name.

Victor

On 23/05/2020 10:00 pm, Merrifield Alpacas wrote:

Thank you for coming back to me and this scenario is interesting and similar to another line of mine and so now I know where you can add adopted/birth etc it will be very useful.

 

But the query I had was a married couple had a daughter but sadly after a few years the wife died, then 4 years later the father remarries and the daughter is adopted by the second wife [I’m not actually sure though if this was done legally though].

 

Regards,

 

Shirley

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Markham
Sent: 23 May 2020 21:04
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Adopted Children how can they linked in?

 

Much really depends on the mother of the child. If the child is illegitimate then the father is not known. If the mother marries a man who is not the child's father then they both should be listed separately.

My grandfather, George Henry, was illegitimate and registered and baptised under his mother's maiden name of Briggs. His mother married Charles Markham and my grandfather had the Markham surname after that. Charles is not his father (I had a DNA test). The way I have set this up is shown below. When my grandfather married he did so under the Markham name and his children (my father) was baptised under that.

Have I misunderstood the question?

On 23/05/2020 8:07 pm, Lorna Craig via groups.io wrote:

Yes, FH allows people to have more than one set of parents.

View the child in the Focus Window, then click on 'Add more Relatives for <name>' just below the main panel.

Now select 'Add Parent'.  You will see a message saying this person already has parents, and do you want to add another set.

Click 'yes'.  Then click  'Link Existing Record'.  Select the new (adopting) mother from the list of existing records.

You will see one or more family records (husband and wife couples) in which the mother already exists.  This will include the family with the child's natural father.  Select this family and click OK.

In the new mother's Property Box, Main tab,  you will now see the child  in the list of children. Click in the 'Rel' column for the child and select 'More Options'.   You will now see a 'Select Relationship Type' window. Tick 'Specify relationship to each parent separately'.   Then set the Relationship to Father as 'Birth' and the Relationship to Mother as 'Adopted'.

Lorna

On 23/05/2020 16:07, admin@... wrote:


Hi,

I'm new to Historian and I have a relative who adopted her husband's daughter from a previous marriage at the moment I have her shown as a daughter to the 2nd wife.  I don't want to lose the daughter from my family tree though so can she have 2 mum's?





Re: Adopted Children how can they linked in?

David Dewick
 

There is possibly a good reason for a step parent to adopt in that unless a will has been made, a step child does not inherit the step parent’s estate, even if this was what was intended. I lost my inheritance this way.


On 24 May 2020, at 10:58, Victor Markham <victor@...> wrote:



Hi Shirley

Thanks for the clarification.

I would simply leave the daughter under her parents name. The father's new wife simply makes her the step mother of the daughter and has no blood connection. If she did adopt the daughter a mention of this could be made under notes of the daughter. I have not heard or see no reason why a step mother would adopt a child unless she is divorced from the child's father and wanted to take the child with her. If this did happen then a note of this could be mentioned in the daughter's name.

Victor

On 23/05/2020 10:00 pm, Merrifield Alpacas wrote:

Thank you for coming back to me and this scenario is interesting and similar to another line of mine and so now I know where you can add adopted/birth etc it will be very useful.

 

But the query I had was a married couple had a daughter but sadly after a few years the wife died, then 4 years later the father remarries and the daughter is adopted by the second wife [I’m not actually sure though if this was done legally though].

 

Regards,

 

Shirley

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Markham
Sent: 23 May 2020 21:04
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Adopted Children how can they linked in?

 

Much really depends on the mother of the child. If the child is illegitimate then the father is not known. If the mother marries a man who is not the child's father then they both should be listed separately.

My grandfather, George Henry, was illegitimate and registered and baptised under his mother's maiden name of Briggs. His mother married Charles Markham and my grandfather had the Markham surname after that. Charles is not his father (I had a DNA test). The way I have set this up is shown below. When my grandfather married he did so under the Markham name and his children (my father) was baptised under that.

Have I misunderstood the question?

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On 23/05/2020 8:07 pm, Lorna Craig via groups.io wrote:

Yes, FH allows people to have more than one set of parents.

View the child in the Focus Window, then click on 'Add more Relatives for <name>' just below the main panel.

Now select 'Add Parent'.  You will see a message saying this person already has parents, and do you want to add another set.

Click 'yes'.  Then click  'Link Existing Record'.  Select the new (adopting) mother from the list of existing records.

You will see one or more family records (husband and wife couples) in which the mother already exists.  This will include the family with the child's natural father.  Select this family and click OK.

In the new mother's Property Box, Main tab,  you will now see the child  in the list of children. Click in the 'Rel' column for the child and select 'More Options'.   You will now see a 'Select Relationship Type' window. Tick 'Specify relationship to each parent separately'.   Then set the Relationship to Father as 'Birth' and the Relationship to Mother as 'Adopted'.

Lorna

On 23/05/2020 16:07, admin@... wrote:

Hi,

I'm new to Historian and I have a relative who adopted her husband's daughter from a previous marriage at the moment I have her shown as a daughter to the 2nd wife.  I don't want to lose the daughter from my family tree though so can she have 2 mum's?




Re: Adopted Children how can they linked in?

Victor Markham
 

Hi Shirley

Thanks for the clarification.

I would simply leave the daughter under her parents name. The father's new wife simply makes her the step mother of the daughter and has no blood connection. If she did adopt the daughter a mention of this could be made under notes of the daughter. I have not heard or see no reason why a step mother would adopt a child unless she is divorced from the child's father and wanted to take the child with her. If this did happen then a note of this could be mentioned in the daughter's name.

Victor

On 23/05/2020 10:00 pm, Merrifield Alpacas wrote:

Thank you for coming back to me and this scenario is interesting and similar to another line of mine and so now I know where you can add adopted/birth etc it will be very useful.

 

But the query I had was a married couple had a daughter but sadly after a few years the wife died, then 4 years later the father remarries and the daughter is adopted by the second wife [I’m not actually sure though if this was done legally though].

 

Regards,

 

Shirley

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Markham
Sent: 23 May 2020 21:04
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Adopted Children how can they linked in?

 

Much really depends on the mother of the child. If the child is illegitimate then the father is not known. If the mother marries a man who is not the child's father then they both should be listed separately.

My grandfather, George Henry, was illegitimate and registered and baptised under his mother's maiden name of Briggs. His mother married Charles Markham and my grandfather had the Markham surname after that. Charles is not his father (I had a DNA test). The way I have set this up is shown below. When my grandfather married he did so under the Markham name and his children (my father) was baptised under that.

Have I misunderstood the question?

On 23/05/2020 8:07 pm, Lorna Craig via groups.io wrote:

Yes, FH allows people to have more than one set of parents.

View the child in the Focus Window, then click on 'Add more Relatives for <name>' just below the main panel.

Now select 'Add Parent'.  You will see a message saying this person already has parents, and do you want to add another set.

Click 'yes'.  Then click  'Link Existing Record'.  Select the new (adopting) mother from the list of existing records.

You will see one or more family records (husband and wife couples) in which the mother already exists.  This will include the family with the child's natural father.  Select this family and click OK.

In the new mother's Property Box, Main tab,  you will now see the child  in the list of children. Click in the 'Rel' column for the child and select 'More Options'.   You will now see a 'Select Relationship Type' window. Tick 'Specify relationship to each parent separately'.   Then set the Relationship to Father as 'Birth' and the Relationship to Mother as 'Adopted'.

Lorna

On 23/05/2020 16:07, admin@... wrote:

Hi,

I'm new to Historian and I have a relative who adopted her husband's daughter from a previous marriage at the moment I have her shown as a daughter to the 2nd wife.  I don't want to lose the daughter from my family tree though so can she have 2 mum's?




Re: Adopted Children how can they linked in?

Merrifield Alpacas
 

Thank you for coming back to me and this scenario is interesting and similar to another line of mine and so now I know where you can add adopted/birth etc it will be very useful.

 

But the query I had was a married couple had a daughter but sadly after a few years the wife died, then 4 years later the father remarries and the daughter is adopted by the second wife [I’m not actually sure though if this was done legally though].

 

Regards,

 

Shirley

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Markham
Sent: 23 May 2020 21:04
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Adopted Children how can they linked in?

 

Much really depends on the mother of the child. If the child is illegitimate then the father is not known. If the mother marries a man who is not the child's father then they both should be listed separately.

My grandfather, George Henry, was illegitimate and registered and baptised under his mother's maiden name of Briggs. His mother married Charles Markham and my grandfather had the Markham surname after that. Charles is not his father (I had a DNA test). The way I have set this up is shown below. When my grandfather married he did so under the Markham name and his children (my father) was baptised under that.

Have I misunderstood the question?

On 23/05/2020 8:07 pm, Lorna Craig via groups.io wrote:

Yes, FH allows people to have more than one set of parents.

View the child in the Focus Window, then click on 'Add more Relatives for <name>' just below the main panel.

Now select 'Add Parent'.  You will see a message saying this person already has parents, and do you want to add another set.

Click 'yes'.  Then click  'Link Existing Record'.  Select the new (adopting) mother from the list of existing records.

You will see one or more family records (husband and wife couples) in which the mother already exists.  This will include the family with the child's natural father.  Select this family and click OK.

In the new mother's Property Box, Main tab,  you will now see the child  in the list of children. Click in the 'Rel' column for the child and select 'More Options'.   You will now see a 'Select Relationship Type' window. Tick 'Specify relationship to each parent separately'.   Then set the Relationship to Father as 'Birth' and the Relationship to Mother as 'Adopted'.

Lorna

On 23/05/2020 16:07, admin@... wrote:

Hi,

I'm new to Historian and I have a relative who adopted her husband's daughter from a previous marriage at the moment I have her shown as a daughter to the 2nd wife.  I don't want to lose the daughter from my family tree though so can she have 2 mum's?




Re: printing

james o'kelly
 

thank you Mike, that worked, quite easy when you know, thank you for you help

James

On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 9:57 AM Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

James, I presume you mean when using the File > Print command from the Diagram Window to actually print onto paper?

Just like most Print dialogues, there should be a choice of Pages to print, so just select the one you need.

In the Diagram Window with Show Page Boundaries enabled, each page is outlined and numbered.

That should work fine for a saved Family Historian Chart but if recreating the Diagram from scratch, getting the page boundaries to align exactly where they were before may take a little careful adjustment.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of james o'kelly
Sent: 23 May 2020 07:37
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] printing

 

How do I print off just one section of a family chart? I had a date wrong but don't want to print the whole of the chart again, thanks


Re: Adopted Children how can they linked in?

Victor Markham
 

Much really depends on the mother of the child. If the child is illegitimate then the father is not known. If the mother marries a man who is not the child's father then they both should be listed separately.

My grandfather, George Henry, was illegitimate and registered and baptised under his mother's maiden name of Briggs. His mother married Charles Markham and my grandfather had the Markham surname after that. Charles is not his father (I had a DNA test). The way I have set this up is shown below. When my grandfather married he did so under the Markham name and his children (my father) was baptised under that.

Have I misunderstood the question?

On 23/05/2020 8:07 pm, Lorna Craig via groups.io wrote:
Yes, FH allows people to have more than one set of parents.

View the child in the Focus Window, then click on 'Add more Relatives for <name>' just below the main panel.

Now select 'Add Parent'.  You will see a message saying this person already has parents, and do you want to add another set.

Click 'yes'.  Then click  'Link Existing Record'.  Select the new (adopting) mother from the list of existing records.

You will see one or more family records (husband and wife couples) in which the mother already exists.  This will include the family with the child's natural father.  Select this family and click OK.

In the new mother's Property Box, Main tab,  you will now see the child  in the list of children. Click in the 'Rel' column for the child and select 'More Options'.   You will now see a 'Select Relationship Type' window. Tick 'Specify relationship to each parent separately'.   Then set the Relationship to Father as 'Birth' and the Relationship to Mother as 'Adopted'.

Lorna

On 23/05/2020 16:07, admin@... wrote:
Hi,

I'm new to Historian and I have a relative who adopted her husband's daughter from a previous marriage at the moment I have her shown as a daughter to the 2nd wife.  I don't want to lose the daughter from my family tree though so can she have 2 mum's?





Re: Adopted Children how can they linked in?

Merrifield Alpacas
 

Many thanks Robin I think I have now done it.

 

Regards,

 

Shirley

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Robin Jordan
Sent: 23 May 2020 19:52
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Adopted Children how can they linked in?

 

Yes – no problem at all.

 

Just highlight the person and then from the menu  Add/Parent/Add Another Set

 

I’ve found one of the strengths of FH is you seem always to be add duplicate info – such as birth date, death date, etc. whereas on some other packages you are limited to one.

 

Robin

 

 

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of admin@...
Sent: 23 May 2020 16:07
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Adopted Children how can they linked in?

 

Hi,

I'm new to Historian and I have a relative who adopted her husband's daughter from a previous marriage at the moment I have her shown as a daughter to the 2nd wife.  I don't want to lose the daughter from my family tree though so can she have 2 mum's?


Re: Adopted Children how can they linked in?

Merrifield Alpacas
 

Thank you Lorna - I think I have done it now, lols!

Much appreciated,

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lorna Craig via groups.io
Sent: 23 May 2020 20:08
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Adopted Children how can they linked in?

Yes, FH allows people to have more than one set of parents.

View the child in the Focus Window, then click on 'Add more Relatives for <name>' just below the main panel.

Now select 'Add Parent'. You will see a message saying this person already has parents, and do you want to add another set.

Click 'yes'. Then click 'Link Existing Record'. Select the new
(adopting) mother from the list of existing records.

You will see one or more family records (husband and wife couples) in which the mother already exists. This will include the family with the child's natural father. Select this family and click OK.

In the new mother's Property Box, Main tab, you will now see the child in the list of children. Click in the 'Rel' column for the child and select 'More Options'. You will now see a 'Select Relationship Type'
window. Tick 'Specify relationship to each parent separately'. Then set the Relationship to Father as 'Birth' and the Relationship to Mother as 'Adopted'.

Lorna

On 23/05/2020 16:07, admin@merrifield-alpacas.com wrote:
Hi,

I'm new to Historian and I have a relative who adopted her husband's
daughter from a previous marriage at the moment I have her shown as a
daughter to the 2nd wife. I don't want to lose the daughter from my
family tree though so can she have 2 mum's?


Re: Adopted Children how can they linked in?

Lorna Craig
 

Yes, FH allows people to have more than one set of parents.

View the child in the Focus Window, then click on 'Add more Relatives for <name>' just below the main panel.

Now select 'Add Parent'.  You will see a message saying this person already has parents, and do you want to add another set.

Click 'yes'.  Then click  'Link Existing Record'.  Select the new (adopting) mother from the list of existing records.

You will see one or more family records (husband and wife couples) in which the mother already exists.  This will include the family with the child's natural father.  Select this family and click OK.

In the new mother's Property Box, Main tab,  you will now see the child  in the list of children. Click in the 'Rel' column for the child and select 'More Options'.   You will now see a 'Select Relationship Type' window. Tick 'Specify relationship to each parent separately'.   Then set the Relationship to Father as 'Birth' and the Relationship to Mother as 'Adopted'.

Lorna

On 23/05/2020 16:07, admin@merrifield-alpacas.com wrote:
Hi,

I'm new to Historian and I have a relative who adopted her husband's daughter from a previous marriage at the moment I have her shown as a daughter to the 2nd wife.  I don't want to lose the daughter from my family tree though so can she have 2 mum's?

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