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Re: Table of Church fees 1884

Fruitbat
 

Peter,

That's amazing!

Would you mind if I shared your photo in a Facebook group, please?


Re: Media Files

Lorna Craig
 

Tom,

In an earlier post you said:

"My Family Historian Projects\Name Tree\Name Tree.fh_data\Media folder tells me there are 6458 items.

In FH on the File>File Statistics it tells me there are 6463 Media Records."

This means there were five media records in FH for which there was no corresponding file in your media folder. 


Yet after running Mike's plugin you said "it found 1 file that I had missed.... Sorted the problem and ran it again and no missing files."


There is still something not quite right. What is the latest count of media files (in the media folder) and Media records (in FH)?


Lorna





Re: Media Files

Mike Tate
 

I think the confusion is that you insist on describing the Media Records that exist inside FH as the Media Files that exist inside Windows folders.

Inside FH there is the Records Window and that lists Individual Records, Source Records, etc, etc, and Media Records. Do you see the pattern?

Windows has File Explorer for exploring Files such as in the Media folder.

 

 

So the renaming of the Media folder proves it has a ‘dodgy’ file that upsets Tools > External File Links.

Hopefully, your Media folder has several sub-folders, so repeat the process of renaming them one by one until you discover the one that lets Tools > External File Links work.

Thus that sub-folder holds the ‘dodgy’ file. If that sub-folder has its own sub-folders, then repeat the process again for them.

 

Eventually, you will have narrowed down the number of candidate files for the ‘dodgy’ file to a manageable number.

Do any of those files have unusual characteristics, unusual size, unusual file type, etc?

Try temporarily renaming each such file to see if that one lets Tools > External File Links work.

 

Otherwise, you could temporarily move half the files somewhere else to see if that fixes things, and if not then move them back.

Continue temporarily moving half the remaining suspect files as a binary chop method of finding the ‘dodgy’ file.

 

 

Mike

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Gray via groups.io
Sent: 12 May 2020 21:41
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Media Files

 

Mike,

 

You’re probably right about not grasping the issue.

I was meaning that maybe the Plugin would produce a list of the files with the envelope icon from the Media File not the Windows folder. I had trawled through the Media File picking them out so I could fix them using the method I gave earlier

Ran the plugin and it found 1 file that I had missed in the Media File. Sorted the problem and ran it again and no missing files.

 

I followed the instructions for renaming the Family Historian Projects\Name Tree\Name Tree.fh_data\ Media to M and the Tools> External File Links worked, with as you said an X against all entries. Have now renamed the folder back to Media.

 

Tom.

 


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Re: Media Files

Tom Gray
 

Mike,

 

You’re probably right about not grasping the issue.

I was meaning that maybe the Plugin would produce a list of the files with the envelope icon from the Media File not the Windows folder. I had trawled through the Media File picking them out so I could fix them using the method I gave earlier

Ran the plugin and it found 1 file that I had missed in the Media File. Sorted the problem and ran it again and no missing files.

 

I followed the instructions for renaming the Family Historian Projects\Name Tree\Name Tree.fh_data\ Media to M and the Tools> External File Links worked, with as you said an X against all entries. Have now renamed the folder back to Media.

 

Tom.


Re: Media Files

Mike Tate
 

Tom,

 

You can download the Check for Broken Media Links Plugin from the FHUG Forum posting for Linked media files below:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=17719#p100273

That also has a screenshot of how the Tools > External File Links dialogue should look.

 

I am still not sure you have grasped the broken file links characteristics.

You won’t find envelope icons by looking through a Windows folder of 6458 media files.

That is because broken links relate to MISSING files that are NOT there, so there is nothing to put an envelope icon against.

 

It is probably one of those 6458 files that is preventing the Tools > External File Links dialogue from working.

To prove that is the case, please try the following tactic.

In the \Family Historian Projects\Name Tree\Name Tree.fh_data\ folder temporarily rename the Media folder to just M.

Now in FH the Tools > External File Links dialogue should work and proves there is a ‘faulty’ file causing it to fail.

However, there will be an X against every entry because it cannot find the Media folder, and the envelope symbol will appear everywhere.

Don’t forget to rename folder M back to Media.

If that test succeeds, then I can help you discover the ‘faulty’ file.

 

Mike

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Gray via groups.io
Sent: 12 May 2020 16:10
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Media Files

 

Mike,

 

That explains things re the missing/corrupt files and gives me a better understanding of it.

 

Could you tell me how to get hold of and install your Plugin. It would certainly be much easier working from a list than trawling through the folder looking for the envelope items as I did.

 

The External File Links still does not open and I get the “An error has occurred. Unable to display dialog” pop up.

 

My Family Historian Projects\Name Tree\Name Tree.fh_data\Media folder tells me there are 6458 items.

In FH on the File>File Statistics it tells me there are 6463 Media Records.

If I can identify the 5 extras in FH with your Plugin would that possibly solve the issue with External File Link?

 

Tom


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Re: Media Files

peter hannaway
 

I couldn't work out  what precisely the problem was.

Thanks Lorna and Mike for second-guessing and helping us all when we get stuck.

Peter


Re: Ancestry Message service - update

John James
 

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Re: Modifying Records List

Nev Ramsden
 

Jane,
 
Thank you for this tip
 
Nev.Ramsden
 

From: Jane Taubman
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:25 PM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Modifying Records List
 
 
Right click on the Column heading and select "Configure Columns"
 
Scroll down to the bottom of the list on the left and select Other.
Click  the > button
 
Add a heading and then use the Data Reference button to select the spouse and you should get
%INDI.~SPOU[1]>%
 
Then move the column to the position of your choice.
 
 
 
 


Re: Modifying Records List

Neil Grantham
 

Peter

Do you mean the Tab on the left - the database icon under the spyglass?

If so, right click on the headers and select 'Configure Columns...' then go to the bottom of the left column and select <Other>
Give it a name and then with the <<Insert Data Ref button, find the Spouse/partner fact you want

Best Wishes,

Neil


On Tuesday, 12 May 2020, 15:18:07 BST, peter@... <peter@...> wrote:


I have been unable to work out how to add a column to the Records List which gives the name of the spouse.  Can anyone help please?

I have some names that turn up and fill a double length column  in Records (William Williams abound)  I can sort on DoB but in a few cases I don't have that.

I have collected them partly as a result of going through pages of a particular Parish's Register, recognizing a couple and noting all their children and then repeating it looking for those children who died in the first 10 years in burials.  It's so difficult in the 1700's without the help of a Census to try and link generations with any prospect of complete accuracy.  Usually it can only be done if you can identify the farm or dwelling they lived in. Otherwise it's down to looking for similarities in the choice of Christian names for children

It would be so much easier if I could look in Records and recognise immediately the couple I want, at least with the women there was usually a little more variety with their Christian names.

Perhaps it's just not possible?

A second question please. Many people lost children in the first 10 years.  Is there an historian who knows whether Infant child burials were 'free'.  Some families buried 5 or 6 children and the cost must have been formidable if they were as I believe living on the breadline.
Peter Williams


Re: Media Files

Tom Gray
 

Mike,

 

That explains things re the missing/corrupt files and gives me a better understanding of it.

 

Could you tell me how to get hold of and install your Plugin. It would certainly be much easier working from a list than trawling through the folder looking for the envelope items as I did.

 

The External File Links still does not open and I get the “An error has occurred. Unable to display dialog” pop up.

 

My Family Historian Projects\Name Tree\Name Tree.fh_data\Media folder tells me there are 6458 items.

In FH on the File>File Statistics it tells me there are 6463 Media Records.

If I can identify the 5 extras in FH with your Plugin would that possibly solve the issue with External File Link?

 

Tom


Re: Table of Church fees 1884

Adrian Bruce
 

Interesting to see that the cost of a certificate of (not quite) BMD was 2s 7d in 1884 - *exclusive* of a search fee!

According to the Retail Price Index, 2/7 in 1884 would be worth £13.21 today! (See https://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ukcompare/relativevalue.php ) Maybe we're not so hard done by!
 
Adrian


Re: Modifying Records List

peter@...
 

Mike

Thank you!  and for the answer you gave someone else that I read this afternoon which reassured me that FH7 is still a WIP. I had heard nothing of it and thought it had been dropped.
--
Peter Williams


Re: Modifying Records List

peter@...
 

Jane

That's absolutely brilliant! Very many thanks.  FH is an amazing program, especially for those who know their way around it.

Thank you so much.

Peter

 
--
Peter Williams
Researching Williams in Vale of Clywd, Kent in Hertfordshire and Suffolk, Rissen in Suffolk, Summers in Wivenhoe, Broadbent in Liverpool, Ward in Nuneaton, Whicker in Dorset, Gardner in Middlesex


Re: Modifying Records List

Mike Tate
 

There is an online guide to this feature in the FHUG Knowledge Base > Customise or Print Records Window Columns

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:customising_record_window_columns

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jane Taubman
Sent: 12 May 2020 15:25
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Modifying Records List

 

Right click on the Column heading and select "Configure Columns"

 

Scroll down to the bottom of the list on the left and select Other.

Click  the > button

 

Add a heading and then use the Data Reference button to select the spouse and you should get

%INDI.~SPOU[1]>%

 

Then move the column to the position of your choice.

 

On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 15:18, <peter@...> wrote:

I have been unable to work out how to add a column to the Records List which gives the name of the spouse.  Can anyone help please?

 


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Re: Media Files

Mike Tate
 

Thank you for the explanation of how you cured the problem, which seems to confirm that those Media Files inside your Media folder were faulty.

 

The envelope icons will only be shown inside FH wherever Media Records are involved.

Those icons will NOT be shown against any Media Files shown in Windows File Explorer.

 

The envelope icons are saying that the Media Record cannot open the Media File it is linked to in the Media folder.

e.g.

In the Media Record Property Box there is a File item such as Media\photo-abc.jpg

That is referring to the Media File located at Family Historian Projects\Name Tree\Name Tree.fh_data\Media\photo-abc.jpg

But if that Media File does not exist or is faulty then the Media Record cannot open it, so it shows the envelope icon instead.

Does that make sense?

 

To answer your question, YES, my Plugin will list all such ‘missing file names’ that cause the envelope icon.

 

Is your Tools > External File Links command still not working?

If so, then there is still some other Media File in your Media folder that is the cause.

However, finding that problem file may be difficult.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 


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Table of Church fees 1884

peter@...
 

This interested me and I thought I might share it for others.  It's curious to see what the Vicar collected for a tablet or Memorial Window and I see that sounding the bell at Knell was not an act of Charity but earned the Sexton two shillings
--
Peter Williams


Re: Modifying Records List

Jane Taubman
 


Right click on the Column heading and select "Configure Columns"

Scroll down to the bottom of the list on the left and select Other.
Click  the > button

Add a heading and then use the Data Reference button to select the spouse and you should get
%INDI.~SPOU[1]>%

Then move the column to the position of your choice.



On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 15:18, <peter@...> wrote:
I have been unable to work out how to add a column to the Records List which gives the name of the spouse.  Can anyone help please?


Modifying Records List

peter@...
 

I have been unable to work out how to add a column to the Records List which gives the name of the spouse.  Can anyone help please?

I have some names that turn up and fill a double length column  in Records (William Williams abound)  I can sort on DoB but in a few cases I don't have that.

I have collected them partly as a result of going through pages of a particular Parish's Register, recognizing a couple and noting all their children and then repeating it looking for those children who died in the first 10 years in burials.  It's so difficult in the 1700's without the help of a Census to try and link generations with any prospect of complete accuracy.  Usually it can only be done if you can identify the farm or dwelling they lived in. Otherwise it's down to looking for similarities in the choice of Christian names for children

It would be so much easier if I could look in Records and recognise immediately the couple I want, at least with the women there was usually a little more variety with their Christian names.

Perhaps it's just not possible?

A second question please. Many people lost children in the first 10 years.  Is there an historian who knows whether Infant child burials were 'free'.  Some families buried 5 or 6 children and the cost must have been formidable if they were as I believe living on the breadline.
Peter Williams


Re: Media Files

Tom Gray
 

Sorry for taking so long in replying but I have been working on the issue.

 

Mike,

 

My media files are all within the Project.

Family Historian Projects>name tree>name Tree.fh_data>Media

I have trawled through this folder and there are no files (all 6,458) showing the blank envelope.

In the Media List there are 46 media files with this issue.

I have also checked and there are no unlinked media files.

 

Lorna,

 

Tried closing FH and re-opening but made no difference. Can open Tools but cannot access external file links

Tried re-booting computer but made no difference cannot access external file links

 

I clicked on one of the problem files in Media list and get the “Parameter incorrect”. It will let me expand using the plus icon on the left and filenames are exactly the same as the one in both the media list and the Family Historian Projects>name tree>name Tree.fh_data>Media folder.

If I go to the Focus Folder and the Media tab of the individual the “Parameter Incorrect” file is relevant to and click on it, as it has the same filename, I can see it displayed in the window below. Go to that filename in the Media list and it is shown as the envelope type icon and clicking on it gives the Parameter incorrect message.

 

I have now managed to fix all of the 46 media files showing the Parameter message.

I tried various options which I can detail for you if you think it would be useful to others or in finding what has caused this issue, however what has worked for me follows.

 

I made a copy of the problem file from the Family Historian Projects>name tree>name Tree.fh_data>Media folder and saved it in a separate folder out with FH. I used the Downloads folder.

Most of the problem files I had are in TIFF format. I then deleted the problem file from the Family Historian Projects>name tree>name Tree.fh_data>Media folder and the Media list. So deleted from FH entirely.

I then opened the saved file in a photo editing software and saved it as a JPEG instead of TIFF with the same filename. I now had a JPEG and a TIFF file in the Download folder.

With the appropriate record that the file belonged to open in the Media tab I dragged the JPEG version on to the FH icon in the taskbar and added to the record. This creates a new media number file and it displays correctly.

I then deleted the JPEG and TIFF files from the Download folder.

 

There were 5 or 6 JPEG files out of the 46 giving the Parameter message and as they were already JPEG format I did not go through the photo editing part but instead dragged them on to the FH icon and added them to the relevant record. This did not work.

When I checked, despite it being a new file added to the Media list, it was still showing the envelope icon and giving the Parameter message. I then repeated the process but included the photo editing part. In effect saving a JPEG file as a JPEG file with the same name. When dragged on to the FH icon and added to the relevant record it displayed perfectly and no longer showed the Parameter message.

 

A word of caution. If the problem file is one with links to several individuals such as a census record, all the links need to be re-established as the original has been deleted so have all the links.

 

I would stress that I am not very technically minded and there may well be a much easier way to resolve the problem. I was simply trying out various options and those described are what worked for me.

I do not know if the External Links would help as a) I cannot access it and b) I have never used it.

 

Mike.

You mentioned a Plugin you created. Would it pick up these files showing the Parameter Incorrect error?

 

Tom Gray


Re: Media Files

Mike Tate
 

Tom,

That error message has cropped up in the FHUG Forums a few times before.

It indicates that a particular Media file (or two) have corrupt meta-data, usually due to a faulty download.

Downloading the file again usually resolves the problem, but in your case identifying the file may be difficult.

 

Where do you keep your Media files?

Are they within the Project structure in its Media folder, or are they scattered elsewhere over your disk?

 

This missing file broken link problem has recently arisen again in the FHUG Forums.

I have written a Plugin to list all the missing files rather than having to search the Media Window or the External File Links dialogue.

 

As Lorna says, the problem is caused by Media files being renamed, moved or deleted so FH cannot find them.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Gray via groups.io
Sent: 10 May 2020 14:30
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Media Files

 

Lorna,

 

It looks as though I may have a bigger problem.

On clicking on Tools and selecting the External Files Links I get the pop up message

“An error has occurred. Unable to display dialog”

I have never used the External Files Links before

 

Tom

 


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