Re: Media Files
Tom Gray
Sorry for taking so long in replying but I have been working on the issue.
Mike,
My media files are all within the Project. Family Historian Projects>name tree>name Tree.fh_data>Media I have trawled through this folder and there are no files (all 6,458) showing the blank envelope. In the Media List there are 46 media files with this issue. I have also checked and there are no unlinked media files.
Lorna,
Tried closing FH and re-opening but made no difference. Can open Tools but cannot access external file links Tried re-booting computer but made no difference cannot access external file links
I clicked on one of the problem files in Media list and get the “Parameter incorrect”. It will let me expand using the plus icon on the left and filenames are exactly the same as the one in both the media list and the Family Historian Projects>name tree>name Tree.fh_data>Media folder. If I go to the Focus Folder and the Media tab of the individual the “Parameter Incorrect” file is relevant to and click on it, as it has the same filename, I can see it displayed in the window below. Go to that filename in the Media list and it is shown as the envelope type icon and clicking on it gives the Parameter incorrect message.
I have now managed to fix all of the 46 media files showing the Parameter message. I tried various options which I can detail for you if you think it would be useful to others or in finding what has caused this issue, however what has worked for me follows.
I made a copy of the problem file from the Family Historian Projects>name tree>name Tree.fh_data>Media folder and saved it in a separate folder out with FH. I used the Downloads folder. Most of the problem files I had are in TIFF format. I then deleted the problem file from the Family Historian Projects>name tree>name Tree.fh_data>Media folder and the Media list. So deleted from FH entirely. I then opened the saved file in a photo editing software and saved it as a JPEG instead of TIFF with the same filename. I now had a JPEG and a TIFF file in the Download folder. With the appropriate record that the file belonged to open in the Media tab I dragged the JPEG version on to the FH icon in the taskbar and added to the record. This creates a new media number file and it displays correctly. I then deleted the JPEG and TIFF files from the Download folder.
There were 5 or 6 JPEG files out of the 46 giving the Parameter message and as they were already JPEG format I did not go through the photo editing part but instead dragged them on to the FH icon and added them to the relevant record. This did not work. When I checked, despite it being a new file added to the Media list, it was still showing the envelope icon and giving the Parameter message. I then repeated the process but included the photo editing part. In effect saving a JPEG file as a JPEG file with the same name. When dragged on to the FH icon and added to the relevant record it displayed perfectly and no longer showed the Parameter message.
A word of caution. If the problem file is one with links to several individuals such as a census record, all the links need to be re-established as the original has been deleted so have all the links.
I would stress that I am not very technically minded and there may well be a much easier way to resolve the problem. I was simply trying out various options and those described are what worked for me. I do not know if the External Links would help as a) I cannot access it and b) I have never used it.
Mike. You mentioned a Plugin you created. Would it pick up these files showing the Parameter Incorrect error?
Tom Gray
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Re: Media Files
Tom, That error message has cropped up in the FHUG Forums a few times before. It indicates that a particular Media file (or two) have corrupt meta-data, usually due to a faulty download. Downloading the file again usually resolves the problem, but in your case identifying the file may be difficult.
Where do you keep your Media files? Are they within the Project structure in its Media folder, or are they scattered elsewhere over your disk?
This missing file broken link problem has recently arisen again in the FHUG Forums. I have written a Plugin to list all the missing files rather than having to search the Media Window or the External File Links dialogue.
As Lorna says, the problem is caused by Media files being renamed, moved or deleted so FH cannot find them.
Regards, Mike Tate
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Gray via groups.io
Sent: 10 May 2020 14:30 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Media Files
Lorna,
It looks as though I may have a bigger problem. On clicking on Tools and selecting the External Files Links I get the pop up message “An error has occurred. Unable to display dialog” I have never used the External Files Links before
Tom
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Re: Media Files
Tom, I have never seen that message before, and hopefully it is
only a temporary glitch. Try closing FH and re-opening it. If
the problem persists then (as a last resort) try re-installing
FH. I am also puzzled that when you click on the thumbnail in the
main Media window you get a message saying “The parameter is
incorrect” because normally this would open the Media Record tab
in the usual way but with "File not found" displayed. You would
then be offered options to let FH search for the file or open the
'Work with External File Links' tool or search manually. However you may be able to solve your problem another way. In the Media tab of the main Records Window, locate one of the Media records for which you know the image is not displaying. Click the 'plus' icon to the left of it to expand the record. The File line will show the file name FH is looking for, and the file path (probably in the Media folder of your project). Does it look like a valid file path? Try the 'search' tool on your computer (if you are using windows 10 it will probably be bottom left, magnifying glass icon) to search for a file with the name FH is looking for. If it exists but is is the wrong place it can be moved to the location where FH expects it to be. If you can't find the file at all it must have been renamed or deleted. Lorna
On 10/05/2020 14:29, Tom Gray via
groups.io wrote:
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Re: Media Files
Tom Gray
Lorna,
It looks as though I may have a bigger problem. On clicking on Tools and selecting the External Files Links I get the pop up message “An error has occurred. Unable to display dialog” I have never used the External Files Links before
Tom
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Re: Media Files
Tom, This indicates that Family Historian cannot find the file in the
original location where it was when it was first linked. The file
has either been renamed or moved or deleted. The solution to fix the problem depends on which of these things
has happened. If the file has been renamed, use Tools>External
File Links to open the Work with External File Links window.
Locate the problem media record in the list, where it will
have a cross beside it. Click on it to select it, then click Edit.
You can now change the file name (the name which FH is looking
for) to match the name of the file on your computer. If the file has been moved, you may be able to locate it using the Auto Repair Links button in the Work with External File Links window. For further guidance click the Help button in the same window. If the file has been deleted completely you will need to make/download a new one. Lorna
On 10/05/2020 12:24, Tom Gray via
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Re: Media Files
Robert
Tom, this happens to me all the time, I’m forever moving files about, and have several copies of the same file - I usually delete the wrong one by mistake, which puts me in the position you are in now.
easily resolved, by placing the file back in its folder, then drag-and-drop into the media block you are in. Then just delete the old link. Hope this helps
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Media Files
Tom Gray
Any advice on the following? I have noticed that quite a few of my media files are now showing as a blank box with a diagonal X in it. In the focus window individual media tab I can click on a record and see the media in the lower pane. In the preview alongside their name it shows as a envelope for want of a better description Have attached a screenshot Focus Screen.
In the main Media View the same media record also shows as an envelope. Clicking on it produces the pop up box with the message “The parameter is incorrect” I have attached a Screenshot Media List.
Any ideas A) why it has happened? B) how to resolve it?
Tom Gray
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Re: Ancestry Message service - update
Brian Lummis
I tend to agree Peter so I am about to act as my own moderator by clicking “Mute This Topic” at the foot of this post!
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Atkinson
Sent: 10 May 2020 10:27 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry Message service - update
I cant remember how this topic started but hasn't it gone on too long, as I think it is inappropriate for this "family historian" Site.
On Sun, 10 May 2020, 10:15 Sheila Beer, <sheilamarcelb@...> wrote:
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Re: Genealogical Proof Standard
Paul Steadman
I have found this discussion both fascinating and enlightening. I have just returned to my family history after a break of about 10 years, only to discover a few errors in the data I had entered into FH, like mixing the children of my 3x Great grandfather's two families - why after the death of his first wife (Elizabeth Prior b 1805 Little Hallingbury, Essex) did he marry Elizabeth Prior b 1808 from the neighbouring village of Great Hallingbury?????? I was even considering starting afresh and entering all the data again. Now I know about Genealogical Proof Standards, and Evidentia, my mind is made up. Back to square one and fully document everything as I go. Thanks everyone who has contributed to this discussion Paul
On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 10:11, claverterry <terencedicker@...> wrote: Hilary
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Re: Ancestry Message service - update
Peter Atkinson
I cant remember how this topic started but hasn't it gone on too long, as I think it is inappropriate for this "family historian" Site.
On Sun, 10 May 2020, 10:15 Sheila Beer, <sheilamarcelb@...> wrote:
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Re: Ancestry Message service - update
Sheila Beer
You can use the same sign-in information on either Ancestry.com or Ancestry.co.uk ( I assume all the other country specific Ancestry sites as well)
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Re: Ancestry Message service - update
Sheila Beer
I have an account on .co.uk and that HAS had the message service upgrade
On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 22:03, <debbiekennett@...> wrote:
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Re: Ancestry Message service - update
Debbie Kennett
Ancestry have said that full rollout to the new messaging system continues, but “most users have the new experience”. They’ve also said that “Existing international users will see the new experience soon” which rather suggests that it has so far only been rolled out to their users in the US.
Debbie Kennett
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Re: Ancestry Message service - update
Robert Flood
Glad I'm not the only one on the old system. I'm also on ancestry.co.uk in spite of repeated attempts to change my links to .com, but I am not seeing the blue bar. Robert
On Saturday, 9 May 2020, 14:39:06 BST, John James <gladtobegrey@...> wrote:
When I'm on Ancestry (.co.uk) I see what Robert Flood sees. But there is also a blue bar below the black bar saying "It's almost here! Find out more about the new messaging experience at Ancestry." But I received a message on 24th September 2019 saying the new Messaging was imminent ... John
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Re: Genealogical Proof Standard
Jan Murphy
Terry -- I have Evidentia but haven't used it extensively -- I have been on a 'hunting and gathering' phase and need to stop and analyze what I've found and get it into Family Historian. Evidentia is good for making you slow down and really think about what information you might be able to get out of a document. Since this makes many people cry "that's too much work!", I often advise people to try it with their most difficult cases first. But from Ed T (the developer) has said in his video classes, he wrote the program to help him organize all of his genealogy work. To wring the most data out of an English census document, I would first find a copy of the census enumerator's instructions. If I remember correctly, those are available on histpop.org. Reading population studies and census reports for the area may also alert you to subtleties you might have missed, which you could then incorporate into your notes in Evidentia or Family Historian or both. Ed's YouTube channel is at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYKbwE4VYrXm--D2FF7hZ7Q He also has a Facebook presence and enjoys keeping in touch with his users and getting feedback on the program.
On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2:11 AM claverterry <terencedicker@...> wrote: Hilary
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Re: Ancestry Message service - update
Debbie Kennett
It seems to have taken Ancestry a lot longer than predicted to roll out this new messaging system. Here are some details I received from an Ancestry briefing back in June 2019.
Overview ● New Ancestry Message Center: The new Ancestry Message Center is a modern and easy-to-navigate platform that allows members to easily exchange messages with each other. With new features like current message status, online member status and improved member search capabilities, members are now able to connect and respond to each other in a more efficient way.
About the new Ancestry Message Center ● Current Message Status: This feature will show a “Delivered” notice below the message when it is delivered and a “Read” notice once the message has been read. This feature will help keep members better informed about the status of their message. ● Online Member Status: Now, members will be able to see a green dot next to a user’s name if they are online and currently available in the new Ancestry Message Center. ● Improved Member Search Capabilities: By adding a predictive text search feature within the new Ancestry Message Center, it’s easier for Ancestry members to find the person they are trying to message even faster. If a member is online and currently available a green dot will appear next to their name in the search bar.
We were told that new subscribers from June 2019 onwards would be put on the new messaging platform and existing members were supposed to follow. Ancestry members who use the message folders were going to be transitioned last as they were trying to find a way to transfer the folders. That doesn’t seem to have been possible. If you have made use of the folders you will need to download your message folders archive. You will be able to do this until 31st August.
Debbie Kennett
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Re: Ancestry Message service - update
John James
When I'm on Ancestry (.co.uk) I see what Robert Flood sees. But there is also a blue bar below the black bar saying "It's almost here! Find out more about the new messaging experience at Ancestry." But I received a message on 24th September 2019 saying the new Messaging was imminent ... John
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Re: Ancestry Message service - update
John & Carol King
I am glad that I'm not the only one seeing a different screen
On Saturday, 9 May 2020, 11:34:42 BST, Lorna Craig via groups.io <l.m.craig@...> wrote:
I see what Bill has described. There are no separate folders for inbox, sent, etc. The screen looks like the one shown here: https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/Messaging-on-Ancestry
Lorna From: BillH
On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 01:56 PM, Robert Flood wrote:
My guess is that you are still on the old message system. I am on the new message system. The new message system doesn't look like that. It has only an "in" box on the left with a list of message "threads". In the middle it shows the messages for the selected "thread". On the right it gives information about the person that sent you message. There is no "sent" or "deleted" folder shown.
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Re: Ancestry Message service - update
I see what Bill has described. There are no separate folders for inbox, sent, etc. The screen looks like the one shown here: https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/Messaging-on-Ancestry
Lorna
From: BillH
Sent: 09 May 2020 05:18 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry Message service - update
On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 01:56 PM, Robert Flood wrote:
My guess is that you are still on the old message system. I am on the new message system. The new message system doesn't look like that. It has only an "in" box on the left with a list of message "threads". In the middle it shows the messages for the selected "thread". On the right it gives information about the person that sent you message. There is no "sent" or "deleted" folder shown.
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Re: Genealogical Proof Standard
claverterry
Hilary
I have just over a week to finish my Univ. of Strathclyde Course, after which I will try the 14 day free trial of Evidentia. It now sounds intriguing...have you been surprised at how much you can extract from an English census document, for example? Terry
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