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Re: Parent adoption

uhkh3tsccmz9@beconfidential.com
 

You have two issues to handle

1. Child acquiring a new name
2. The adoption

1. New Name
In the property box for the child (main tab) there are three dots and the word "more" on the right hand end of the name field. Clicking on the three dots takes you to "Names and Titles" dialogue. Use the Add, then name button to add the new name (Nigel Kenneth Smith). Optionally you can then make that name the Primary Name (bottom button).
2. The adoption
In the property box for Robert Smith (main tab - with wife Francis - Frances? - showing), click on the add a child link and immediately select "link an existing record". Then select the child (Nigel Kenneth Smith) and add him. In the same tab in the Rel (relative) column for Nigel Kenneth Smith, select "more options". In that dialogue check the box "Specify relationship to each parent separately" and then under "relationship to father" select "adopted".
Optionally within Nigel Kenneth Smith's property box (Fact tab) you can add an adoption fact - which allows you to add media and sources in the normal way.

Does that give you what you want?

You will notice in the "All" tab for Nigel Kenneth Smith he has two "Parents family" lines directly hanging of his name and another one hanging of the adoption event (if you have added it).  If you select for him "Show ancestors diagram" you will get a prompt asking which parental line to show.


Parent adoption

Colin_McCullough
 

Help to enter correctly please the following 
A] Unknown Father marries Francis X
    They have two birth sons Barry + Nigel 
    They then divorce 
B] Wife Francis marries again to Robert Smith 
Two years later husband Robert adopts Nigel and renames him, Nigel Kenneth Smith 

How is the correct way to enter this 
I have wife Francis X showing two marriages and two children showing in first marriage correctly 
Now the son has a new surname ???
Intriguing situation 
Help, please 
Colin NZ


 


Re: Create GEDCOM without living persons (except self)

Helen at Darlington
 

Thank you Mike! That is very valuable information for me. I had no idea that there was a work-around to import media to MyHeritage via GEDCOM; a lot of my evidence is in image form.

I recently discovered that MyHeritage marked everyone 'Private' who didn't have a death date, even if they were born a very long time ago. I did not know this until I viewed my tree when not logged in. - I was horrified: what a mess! I often don't research death dates, and when I do, ID is often shaky.

I wouldn't leave myself off my tree, no! I need to be on for the DNA system.

Thanks again, Helen


Re: Create GEDCOM without living persons (except self)

Mike Tate
 

Helen, it is true that the direct import of GEDCOM to the MyHeritage website does not support Media.

However, their free Family Tree Builder does import GEDCOM with Media and then synchronises both with the website.

See the ‘Export Gedcom File’ plugin Help & Advice at:

https://pluginstore.family-historian.co.uk/page/help/export-gedcom-file-myh-myheritage-family-tree-builder

 

If you delete the records of all living people (such as yourself and your spouse) then you may get fragmented trees.

e.g. Without you and your spouse, your own ancestors and your spouse’s ancestors will form two unrelated trees.

If each living person’s name, dates, and facts are erased then the trees stay related but the people are anonymous.

Websites such as Ancestry, FindMyPast, and MyHeritage automatically ‘privatize’ living people.

The MyHeritage strategy is explained in:

https://faq.myheritage.com/en/article/how-do-i-privatize-living-relatives-in-my-family-tree

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Helen at Darlington
Sent: 20 May 2022 15:03
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Create GEDCOM without living persons (except self)

 

Thank you, Mike. When I previously put my tree on MyHeritage (the out-of-date one I now want to replace), I imported it via their site. No media arrived in the tree, and, upon asking them, I was told that the system cannot accept media in a GEDCOM. I imported the whole tree, then manually deleted the living - but missed a few! It was smaller then.

I previously used the genealogy Wiki WeRelate which absolutely bans living people, and their deceased partners, from its database, and I still consider that to be the ideal. In that system, you naturally wouldn't put deceased descendants of living people on either, since doing so would be an infringement of the privacy of the living - and also because they would, yes, be detached. WeRelate's volunteers actually go around deleting records of any living people they find! All rather morbid!


Re: Create GEDCOM without living persons (except self)

Helen at Darlington
 

Thank you, Mike. When I previously put my tree on MyHeritage (the out-of-date one I now want to replace), I imported it via their site. No media arrived in the tree, and, upon asking them, I was told that the system cannot accept media in a GEDCOM. I imported the whole tree, then manually deleted the living - but missed a few! It was smaller then.

I previously used the genealogy Wiki WeRelate which absolutely bans living people, and their deceased partners, from its database, and I still consider that to be the ideal. In that system, you naturally wouldn't put deceased descendants of living people on either, since doing so would be an infringement of the privacy of the living - and also because they would, yes, be detached. WeRelate's volunteers actually go around deleting records of any living people they find! All rather morbid!


Re: Create GEDCOM without living persons (except self)

Mike Tate
 

Hi Helen,

 

I suspect you don’t really want to create a GEDCOM without any living person’s records.

If you did that then there would probably be several disjointed unrelated family branches, because there would be no living people to connect them together.

That is why the 'Clean Living Persons' plugin desensitises living person records rather than delete them completely.

It is not essential to have Living or Private flags because the plugin can use actual or estimated birth and death dates instead.

However, there is a Query to help find living people and add the Living flag.

See FHUG Knowledge Base https://fhug.org.uk/kb/download/flag-living-3/

 

There are two methods:

1) Use the File > Project Window > More Tasks > Copy Project option to create a temporary duplicate Project.

You may wish to use the File > Split Tree Helper… command to delete unwanted records, facts, etc.

Run the 'Clean Living Persons' plugin in the Project ignoring the warning message.

Run the ‘Export Gedcom File’ plugin with the destination set for My Heritage and migrate the resulting GEDCOM and Media to My Heritage.

2) Use the File > Import/Export > Export > GEDCOM File… command to create a standalone GEDCOM but still referring to original Media.

You may wish to use the File > Split Tree Helper… command to delete unwanted records, facts, etc.

Run the 'Clean Living Persons' plugin on that standalone GEDCOM file.

Run the ‘Export Gedcom File’ plugin with the destination set for My Heritage and migrate the resulting GEDCOM and Media to My Heritage.

 

See the FHUG Knowledge Base ‘Exporting a Family Tree with/without Media’ for advice:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/exporting-a-family-tree-with-without-media/

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Helen at Darlington
Sent: 20 May 2022 14:06
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Create GEDCOM without living persons (except self)

 

I wish to create a GEDCOM without living persons, to upload to MyHeritage. I understand I can use a Flag, so my first question is:

  • Is the process of putting persons on a 'living' or 'private' record flag automated, or do I need to seek out each record?

I have installed the 'Clean Living Persons' plugin which works on GEDCOMS. My second question is:

  • In what order do I do the various stages of making this GEDCOM? Is it flagging of records first, then GEDCOM creation, then tweaking with the Plugin?


Create GEDCOM without living persons (except self)

Helen at Darlington
 

I wish to create a GEDCOM without living persons, to upload to MyHeritage. I understand I can use a Flag, so my first question is:
  • Is the process of putting persons on a 'living' or 'private' record flag automated, or do I need to seek out each record?
I have installed the 'Clean Living Persons' plugin which works on GEDCOMS. My second question is:
  • In what order do I do the various stages of making this GEDCOM? Is it flagging of records first, then GEDCOM creation, then tweaking with the Plugin?


Re: International Keyboard

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=20660 is relevant


Re: International Keyboard

Vyger
 

I would suggest reporting this to support.

I know there are several workarounds but they are all less natural and more time consuming. If other programs naturally accept accented characters form the international keyboard configuration then I believe Family Historian should do the same.

I perceive FH wishing to enhance the programs international appeal so I would expect this is something they would wish to be aware of.



On Wed, 18 May 2022, 15:00 Tom Santa Cruz, <tomsantacruz@...> wrote:
I have a problem using the United States International Keyboard with Family Historian 7.0.11.  The accented letters í, Í, ú, and Ú are blocked by the program at the keyboard when using Family Historian (I can copy and paste the letters into Family Historian, without issue and they are preserved in the program). I do not have this issue in other software programs that I use.

These accented vowels are common in Spanish.  As an example, I type García in Family Historian, Garca is the result. Is there a simpler fix than my having to copy-and-paste?  Also is my typing í, Í, ú or Ú causing issues with the Family Historian program.

I have been using Family Historian for less than a year, after converting from The Master Genealogist.  I am otherwise very happy with my change, but I am still learning how to use some features.

I use International Keyboard with French, German and old English characters as well.


Re: International Keyboard

John Hanson
 

In the updates introduced in version 6 - https://www.family-historian.co.uk/help/fh6/hh_start.htm#whatsnewin60.html
·  New Accent Popup Window

  • Press-and-hold a letter key in any field in the Property Box or Automatic Source Citation Pane to choose from a popup list of accents for that letter.  The list for any letter (and some non-letters) is configurable, and can include all accent characters from a list of languages, or other accent characters of your choice.  You can combine as many languages as you wish.  You can share definitions of accent sets with other users. 
  • You can even enter alternative punctuation characters in this way. For example, if you press and hold the question mark character, you will be offered the choice of the upside down question mark used in Spanish, as an alternative.
  • Press the Escape (Esc) key to cancel the Popup window without selecting anything (or just click elsewhere).
  • The 'accent popup' capability can be switched off in Preferences, or temporarily disabled by pressing-and-holding the Insert key.  If disabled, the default behaviour will revert, which is for the letter to auto-repeat.

Doesn’t solve the problem but at least a work around

 

There isn’t anything on it in the FHUG so you might need to refer it to Calico Pie themselves (they do not monitor the mailing list)

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Santa Cruz
Sent: 18 May 2022 15:01
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] International Keyboard

 

I have a problem using the United States International Keyboard with Family Historian 7.0.11.  The accented letters í, Í, ú, and Ú are blocked by the program at the keyboard when using Family Historian (I can copy and paste the letters into Family Historian, without issue and they are preserved in the program). I do not have this issue in other software programs that I use.

 

These accented vowels are common in Spanish.  As an example, I type García in Family Historian, Garca is the result. Is there a simpler fix than my having to copy-and-paste?  Also is my typing í, Í, ú or Ú causing issues with the Family Historian program.

 

I have been using Family Historian for less than a year, after converting from The Master Genealogist.  I am otherwise very happy with my change, but I am still learning how to use some features.

 

I use International Keyboard with French, German and old English characters as well.


Re: International Keyboard

Sheila Beer
 

I find the problem is when 'searching'.   It doesn't seem to recognize foreign letters.



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On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 15:00, Tom Santa Cruz <tomsantacruz@...> wrote:
I have a problem using the United States International Keyboard with Family Historian 7.0.11.  The accented letters í, Í, ú, and Ú are blocked by the program at the keyboard when using Family Historian (I can copy and paste the letters into Family Historian, without issue and they are preserved in the program). I do not have this issue in other software programs that I use.

These accented vowels are common in Spanish.  As an example, I type García in Family Historian, Garca is the result. Is there a simpler fix than my having to copy-and-paste?  Also is my typing í, Í, ú or Ú causing issues with the Family Historian program.

I have been using Family Historian for less than a year, after converting from The Master Genealogist.  I am otherwise very happy with my change, but I am still learning how to use some features.

I use International Keyboard with French, German and old English characters as well.


International Keyboard

Tom Santa Cruz
 

I have a problem using the United States International Keyboard with Family Historian 7.0.11.  The accented letters í, Í, ú, and Ú are blocked by the program at the keyboard when using Family Historian (I can copy and paste the letters into Family Historian, without issue and they are preserved in the program). I do not have this issue in other software programs that I use.

These accented vowels are common in Spanish.  As an example, I type García in Family Historian, Garca is the result. Is there a simpler fix than my having to copy-and-paste?  Also is my typing í, Í, ú or Ú causing issues with the Family Historian program.

I have been using Family Historian for less than a year, after converting from The Master Genealogist.  I am otherwise very happy with my change, but I am still learning how to use some features.

I use International Keyboard with French, German and old English characters as well.


Re: Photo Archives and Family Historian

Vyger
 

Lorna gave some good advice I would agree with. I have thousands of media files and choose to maintain these in a folder structure rather like one would in a filing cabinet rather than in the project folder, FH links to them anyway.

I would suggest you most important consideration at this point is agreeing a file naming system which is almost unique to your needs and makes the files easily identifiable in your is.

I switched from Rootsmagic to FH a few years back and plan a another user video on this important subject as the last video used Rootsmagic.

Jackson

On Mon, 16 May 2022, 05:54 johnfirr via groups.io, <johnfirr=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks Lorna. Really useful advice. I clearly need to do some careful planning before I jump in.
Regards
John


Re: Photo Archives and Family Historian

johnfirr@...
 

Thanks Lorna. Really useful advice. I clearly need to do some careful planning before I jump in.
Regards
John


Re: Photo Archives and Family Historian

Lorna Craig
 

For most group photos I make a 'frame' link to each person in the photo. You can then have a separate picture caption for each frame link if you wish, using the Link Note and 'Use Link Note as Caption'.  However in some group photos the individual faces are too small/unclear  for it to be worth making a frame link so I just link the full photo to the key individuals, for example a group wedding photo could be linked to the bride and groom and the main picture note can contain a list of the people in it.

You can attach as many pictures as you wish to an individual, but you would probably want to be selective about which pictures appear in reports.  You can do this by using the option to 'Exclude from Reports'.

If you have hundreds of photos to link it is worth deciding in advance how to organise your FH Media folder.  FH can handle any number of files with ease but if you want to be able to locate pictures directly yourself using Windows Explorer you might want to divide the Media folder into sub-folders, for example for different family branches, and use a file naming system which enables you to sort together all the pictures of a particular person.

Lorna

On 15/05/2022 16:04, johnfirr via groups.io wrote:

Just wondered how others approach photo storage in Family Historian.

I have a job on my "to-do" list ( which I am sure many on here share), which is to scan and digitise the hundreds of old family photos that I have stored in albums, shoeboxes, envolopes and the bottom of drawers!.

Scanning and filing on some sort of media is somewhat tedious but fairly straightforward. I have tried to take the approach that Family hIstorian is my repository for everything in recent years but I am not sure how to approach this one? I have scanned in a few specific individuals and linked their faces for the purpose of diagrams but am not sure how it works if say I had 100 phptos of one individual and scanned them all in and linked them. Would it make reports etc really messy?

Also how do people handle group photos? Do you make a link to every person on the photo within your databse?

Any practical views or tips from those who have attached a large database of photos would be really helpful and interesting.

with thanks
John Firr
_


Re: Photo Archives and Family Historian

johnfirr@...
 

The buildings one is another good question David. Do far I have linked the relevant ones to a residence or occupation fact.
John


Re: Photo Archives and Family Historian

David Burgess
 

Hi John

I only place photos in the Media folder that I wish to link to individuals in Family Historian.  All other photos are placed in relevant folders in my computer.  I have photos I crop for specific purposes and reduce in size, but retain the original.

How do you deal with any photos of scenery or buildings unrelated to your family history?

Regards

David Burgess

On 15/05/2022 16:04, johnfirr via groups.io wrote:
Just wondered how others approach photo storage in Family Historian.

I have a job on my "to-do" list ( which I am sure many on here share), which is to scan and digitise the hundreds of old family photos that I have stored in albums, shoeboxes, envolopes and the bottom of drawers!.

Scanning and filing on some sort of media is somewhat tedious but fairly straightforward. I have tried to take the approach that Family hIstorian is my repository for everything in recent years but I am not sure how to approach this one? I have scanned in a few specific individuals and linked their faces for the purpose of diagrams but am not sure how it works if say I had 100 phptos of one individual and scanned them all in and linked them. Would it make reports etc really messy?

Also how do people handle group photos? Do you make a link to every person on the photo within your databse?

Any practical views or tips from those who have attached a large database of photos would be really helpful and interesting.

with thanks
John Firr
-- 
David Burgess


Photo Archives and Family Historian

johnfirr@...
 

Just wondered how others approach photo storage in Family Historian.

I have a job on my "to-do" list ( which I am sure many on here share), which is to scan and digitise the hundreds of old family photos that I have stored in albums, shoeboxes, envolopes and the bottom of drawers!.

Scanning and filing on some sort of media is somewhat tedious but fairly straightforward. I have tried to take the approach that Family hIstorian is my repository for everything in recent years but I am not sure how to approach this one? I have scanned in a few specific individuals and linked their faces for the purpose of diagrams but am not sure how it works if say I had 100 phptos of one individual and scanned them all in and linked them. Would it make reports etc really messy?

Also how do people handle group photos? Do you make a link to every person on the photo within your databse?

Any practical views or tips from those who have attached a large database of photos would be really helpful and interesting.

with thanks
John Firr


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Phil Stokes
 

Someone posted in the thread I mentioned on RootsChat that it worked for them yesterday.

You need to have cancelled your current subscription, wait until it has expired and follow the link when logged in as a guest account.
________________________________________
From: family-historian@groups.io [family-historian@groups.io] on behalf of Sue Herrington [sue.herrington9@...]
Sent: 13 May 2022 21:45
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

The 50% discount continues to be obtained regularly by many members of several Facebook groups to which I belong.

On Fri, 13 May 2022, 21:36 David Hodgson-Brown, <dave@...<mailto:dave@...>> wrote:
The link still works, but the large discount has gone.

David

From: family-historian@groups.io<mailto:family-historian@groups.io> <family-historian@groups.io<mailto:family-historian@groups.io>> On Behalf Of Sue Herrington
Sent: 13 May 2022 19:51
To: family-historian@groups.io<mailto:family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

The link is indeed still available and still works.
On Fri, 13 May 2022, 19:43 Lorna Craig via groups.io<http://groups.io>, <l.m.craig@...<mailto:ntlworld.com@groups.io>> wrote:
Someone else asked about this a few weeks ago. Sadly the discount is no
longer available.

On 13/05/2022 19:20, Marion Woolgar via groups.io<http://groups.io> wrote:
The link to the long-standing 50% Ancestry discount, as posted by James Pam
& Trevor Rix some time ago seems to have disappeared. I was intending to
use it this weekend because a local day centre was hoping to start a family
history group and doesn't have the funds for a full price subscription.
Does anyone have any up-to-date information about it, please?

Marion Woolgar


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Sue Herrington
 

The 50% discount continues to be obtained regularly by many members of several Facebook groups to which I belong.


On Fri, 13 May 2022, 21:36 David Hodgson-Brown, <dave@...> wrote:

The link still works, but the large discount has gone.

 

David

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sue Herrington
Sent: 13 May 2022 19:51
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

 

The link is indeed still available and still works.

On Fri, 13 May 2022, 19:43 Lorna Craig via groups.io, <l.m.craig=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

Someone else asked about this a few weeks ago.  Sadly the discount is no
longer available.

On 13/05/2022 19:20, Marion Woolgar via groups.io wrote:
> The link to the long-standing 50% Ancestry discount, as posted by James Pam
> & Trevor Rix some time ago seems to have disappeared.  I was intending to
> use it this weekend because a local day centre was hoping to start a family
> history group and doesn't have the funds for a full price subscription.
> Does anyone have any up-to-date information about it, please?
>
> Marion Woolgar
>
>




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