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locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

David Hodgson-Brown
 

The link still works, but the large discount has gone.

 

David

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sue Herrington
Sent: 13 May 2022 19:51
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

 

The link is indeed still available and still works.

On Fri, 13 May 2022, 19:43 Lorna Craig via groups.io, <l.m.craig=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

Someone else asked about this a few weeks ago.  Sadly the discount is no
longer available.

On 13/05/2022 19:20, Marion Woolgar via groups.io wrote:
> The link to the long-standing 50% Ancestry discount, as posted by James Pam
> & Trevor Rix some time ago seems to have disappeared.  I was intending to
> use it this weekend because a local day centre was hoping to start a family
> history group and doesn't have the funds for a full price subscription.
> Does anyone have any up-to-date information about it, please?
>
> Marion Woolgar
>
>





locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Sue Herrington
 

The link is indeed still available and still works.


On Fri, 13 May 2022, 19:43 Lorna Craig via groups.io, <l.m.craig=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:
Someone else asked about this a few weeks ago.  Sadly the discount is no
longer available.

On 13/05/2022 19:20, Marion Woolgar via groups.io wrote:
> The link to the long-standing 50% Ancestry discount, as posted by James Pam
> & Trevor Rix some time ago seems to have disappeared.  I was intending to
> use it this weekend because a local day centre was hoping to start a family
> history group and doesn't have the funds for a full price subscription.
> Does anyone have any up-to-date information about it, please?
>
> Marion Woolgar
>
>






locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Phil Stokes
 

Marion, I replied to a recent similar question and was censured for being off-topic in this group.

Search for Ancestry Subscription in the Common Room forum at RootsChat and you will find the link and how to use it.
________________________________________
From: family-historian@groups.io [family-historian@groups.io] on behalf of Marion Woolgar via groups.io [listmail008@...]
Sent: 13 May 2022 19:20
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

The link to the long-standing 50% Ancestry discount, as posted by James Pam
& Trevor Rix some time ago seems to have disappeared. I was intending to
use it this weekend because a local day centre was hoping to start a family
history group and doesn't have the funds for a full price subscription.
Does anyone have any up-to-date information about it, please?

Marion Woolgar


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Lorna Craig
 

Someone else asked about this a few weeks ago.  Sadly the discount is no longer available.

On 13/05/2022 19:20, Marion Woolgar via groups.io wrote:
The link to the long-standing 50% Ancestry discount, as posted by James Pam
& Trevor Rix some time ago seems to have disappeared. I was intending to
use it this weekend because a local day centre was hoping to start a family
history group and doesn't have the funds for a full price subscription.
Does anyone have any up-to-date information about it, please?

Marion Woolgar


locked Ancestry subscription discount

Marion Woolgar
 

The link to the long-standing 50% Ancestry discount, as posted by James Pam
& Trevor Rix some time ago seems to have disappeared. I was intending to
use it this weekend because a local day centre was hoping to start a family
history group and doesn't have the funds for a full price subscription.
Does anyone have any up-to-date information about it, please?

Marion Woolgar


Re: copy and paste website links

Victor Markham
 

When you are on a GRO index site just do a right click on your mouse it will come up with a menu. Chose screen shot then with your mouse cover the area you want to copy then save or download it

I do this all the time

Victor

On 11/05/2022 12:58, Adrian Bruce wrote:

On Wed, 11 May 2022 at 12:37, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:
...I have experimented with copy & paste of ‘tables’ on various web pages with mixed results.

It seems to vary depending on how the HTML has been formatted. ...


I would certainly support that conclusion from memory. Some stuff pastes over neatly. Some is formatted chaotically, even though it looks similar on the original screen. I'm sure I can't paste (formatted) results from the GRO Index site but can paste similar formatted data from other sites. There are so many ways of formatting output  that I find it difficult to understand how anyone can program a copy and paste consistently. And of course, Ancestry, etc, can, and will, change their coding all the time.

Adrian


Re: copy and paste website links

Adrian Bruce
 

On Wed, 11 May 2022 at 12:37, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:
...I have experimented with copy & paste of ‘tables’ on various web pages with mixed results.

It seems to vary depending on how the HTML has been formatted. ...


I would certainly support that conclusion from memory. Some stuff pastes over neatly. Some is formatted chaotically, even though it looks similar on the original screen. I'm sure I can't paste (formatted) results from the GRO Index site but can paste similar formatted data from other sites. There are so many ways of formatting output  that I find it difficult to understand how anyone can program a copy and paste consistently. And of course, Ancestry, etc, can, and will, change their coding all the time.

Adrian


Re: copy and paste website links

Mike Tate
 

Hi Philip,

I think I now understand better what you are attempting to do.

 

You are using the right-click options ‘Paste’ or ‘Paste with Website Link’ or ‘Paste Unformatted Text’.

( It would have helped if you had made it clearer you were using those right-click options. )

 

Paste’ works for me using the Edith Box details you posted here.

If both tables are copied then the Edith Box table is pasted correctly.

However, the Household Members table of rows & columns is not reproduced and each cell value is on a separate line.

But if the two tables are copied and pasted separately then they are both reproduced correctly.

 

Perhaps, that issue of multiple tables with different numbers of columns in the clipboard should be reported to Calico Pie.

 

I have experimented with copy & paste of ‘tables’ on various web pages with mixed results.

It seems to vary depending on how the HTML has been formatted.

 

Paste with Website Link’ works for me but with the provisos above.

i.e. The URL of the original web page is inserted above the pasted text/table along with the words: Pasted From ….

 

Maybe, it is a specific problem with the way Ancestry have used HTML to format the tables.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Philip Haddock
Sent: 11 May 2022 08:04
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

Hi Mike,

This is the record I am trying to past into FH as paste with website link. As I said yesterday I can only paste it as unformatted text, neither the simple paste nor the website link options work.

 

Kind regards,

Philip Haddock

 

Edith Box

Age:

49

Birth Date:

abt 1901

Gender:

Female

Birth Place:

England

Marital Status:

Married

Relation to Head of House:

Wife

Residence Date:

1950

Home in 1950:

Upper Yoder, Cambria, Pennsylvania, USA

Citizenship:

yes

Household Members

Age

Relationship

Albert Box

48

Head

Edith Box

49

Wife

William Constable

25

Son-in-law

Betty Constable

25

Daughter

 



Re: copy and paste website links

Victor Markham
 

Try this. Do a right click on your mouse which opens a menu. Prompt the screen shot. This will allow you to take a shot over the area you want to save. I do this all the time and add it to FH.

On 10 May 2022, at 10:18, philip.haddock@... wrote:

I can no longer copy records from Ancestry with the website link and past them into notes for an individual. Can anyone suggest why?

Philip Haddock


Re: copy and paste website links

Philip Haddock
 

Hi Mike,
This is the record I am trying to past into FH as paste with website link. As I said yesterday I can only paste it as unformatted text, neither the simple paste nor the website link options work.

Kind regards,
Philip Haddock

Edith Box
Age: 49
Birth Date: abt 1901
Gender: Female
Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Residence Date: 1950
Home in 1950: Upper Yoder, Cambria, Pennsylvania, USA
Citizenship: yes
Household Members Age Relationship
Albert Box 48 Head
Edith Box 49 Wife
William Constable 25 Son-in-law
Betty Constable 25 Daughter


From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> on behalf of Mike Tate <post@...>
Sent: 10 May 2022 13:13
To: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links
 

OK, so what text is pasted?

Can you paste it here so we can see the clipboard text?

Is it a valid URL web link?

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Philip Haddock
Sent: 10 May 2022 13:03
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

Hi Mike 

Yes it was a typo. I’ve got the most up to date version. There is something in the clipboard but only pasting as unformatted text works. 

I will try to copy paste on other sites and let you know. 

Thanks again

Philip Haddock



On 10 May 2022, at 12:22 pm, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



Hi Philip,

The latest version of FH is 7.0.11 so is 7.0.1 a typo?

 

When nothing pastes are you sure there is something in the clipboard?

If nothing is pasted with even a simple text paste, then nothing was copied from Ancestry.

 

If you copy web links from elsewhere are they OK?

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Philip Haddock
Sent: 10 May 2022 12:11
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

Hi Mike,

Thanks for getting back to me.

 

I am using version 7.0.1 and installed the update some time ago. I have been able to copy records from the Ancestry UK website and then pasting them with website link option into the FH Rich Text Note Window ( the version with additional word processing functions e.g. text colours, bullet points and insert table) for the relevant individual. 

 

Now when I try pasting them neither the simple paste nor the option for website link work (i.e. nothing pastes) Only pasting as unformatted text works.

 

Kind regards,

Philip Haddock


From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> on behalf of Mike Tate <post@...>
Sent: 10 May 2022 11:36
To: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

Philip,

To help us diagnose what is happening you need to provide more details.

What has changed since it last worked for you?

Have you updated FH to a later version?

Are you talking about the plain text Note box or the FH V7 Rich Text Note window?

Exactly what paste options are you choosing?

Please explain exactly what is no longer working: Is nothing getting copied at all or what?

 

Obviously, you can see what you are doing and what is happening but we cannot.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of philip.haddock@...
Sent: 10 May 2022 08:48
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

I can no longer copy records from Ancestry with the website link and past them into notes for an individual. Can anyone suggest why?

Philip Haddock


Re: copy and paste website links

Paul Gaskell
 

 

Hi Philip

 

If you are copying and pasting using the mouse and shortcut menus, does using keyboard commands make any difference ?

 

Thanks.

 

Paul

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 10 May 2022 13:13
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

OK, so what text is pasted?

Can you paste it here so we can see the clipboard text?

Is it a valid URL web link?

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Philip Haddock
Sent: 10 May 2022 13:03
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

Hi Mike 

Yes it was a typo. I’ve got the most up to date version. There is something in the clipboard but only pasting as unformatted text works. 

I will try to copy paste on other sites and let you know. 

Thanks again

Philip Haddock



On 10 May 2022, at 12:22 pm, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



Hi Philip,

The latest version of FH is 7.0.11 so is 7.0.1 a typo?

 

When nothing pastes are you sure there is something in the clipboard?

If nothing is pasted with even a simple text paste, then nothing was copied from Ancestry.

 

If you copy web links from elsewhere are they OK?

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Philip Haddock
Sent: 10 May 2022 12:11
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

Hi Mike,

Thanks for getting back to me.

 

I am using version 7.0.1 and installed the update some time ago. I have been able to copy records from the Ancestry UK website and then pasting them with website link option into the FH Rich Text Note Window ( the version with additional word processing functions e.g. text colours, bullet points and insert table) for the relevant individual. 

 

Now when I try pasting them neither the simple paste nor the option for website link work (i.e. nothing pastes) Only pasting as unformatted text works.

 

Kind regards,

Philip Haddock


From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> on behalf of Mike Tate <post@...>
Sent: 10 May 2022 11:36
To: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

Philip,

To help us diagnose what is happening you need to provide more details.

What has changed since it last worked for you?

Have you updated FH to a later version?

Are you talking about the plain text Note box or the FH V7 Rich Text Note window?

Exactly what paste options are you choosing?

Please explain exactly what is no longer working: Is nothing getting copied at all or what?

 

Obviously, you can see what you are doing and what is happening but we cannot.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of philip.haddock@...
Sent: 10 May 2022 08:48
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

I can no longer copy records from Ancestry with the website link and past them into notes for an individual. Can anyone suggest why?

Philip Haddock


Re: copy and paste website links

Mike Tate
 

OK, so what text is pasted?

Can you paste it here so we can see the clipboard text?

Is it a valid URL web link?

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Philip Haddock
Sent: 10 May 2022 13:03
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

Hi Mike 

Yes it was a typo. I’ve got the most up to date version. There is something in the clipboard but only pasting as unformatted text works. 

I will try to copy paste on other sites and let you know. 

Thanks again

Philip Haddock



On 10 May 2022, at 12:22 pm, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



Hi Philip,

The latest version of FH is 7.0.11 so is 7.0.1 a typo?

 

When nothing pastes are you sure there is something in the clipboard?

If nothing is pasted with even a simple text paste, then nothing was copied from Ancestry.

 

If you copy web links from elsewhere are they OK?

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Philip Haddock
Sent: 10 May 2022 12:11
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

Hi Mike,

Thanks for getting back to me.

 

I am using version 7.0.1 and installed the update some time ago. I have been able to copy records from the Ancestry UK website and then pasting them with website link option into the FH Rich Text Note Window ( the version with additional word processing functions e.g. text colours, bullet points and insert table) for the relevant individual. 

 

Now when I try pasting them neither the simple paste nor the option for website link work (i.e. nothing pastes) Only pasting as unformatted text works.

 

Kind regards,

Philip Haddock


From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> on behalf of Mike Tate <post@...>
Sent: 10 May 2022 11:36
To: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

Philip,

To help us diagnose what is happening you need to provide more details.

What has changed since it last worked for you?

Have you updated FH to a later version?

Are you talking about the plain text Note box or the FH V7 Rich Text Note window?

Exactly what paste options are you choosing?

Please explain exactly what is no longer working: Is nothing getting copied at all or what?

 

Obviously, you can see what you are doing and what is happening but we cannot.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of philip.haddock@...
Sent: 10 May 2022 08:48
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

I can no longer copy records from Ancestry with the website link and past them into notes for an individual. Can anyone suggest why?

Philip Haddock


Re: copy and paste website links

Philip Haddock
 

Hi Mike 
Yes it was a typo. I’ve got the most up to date version. There is something in the clipboard but only pasting as unformatted text works. 
I will try to copy paste on other sites and let you know. 
Thanks again
Philip Haddock


On 10 May 2022, at 12:22 pm, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



Hi Philip,

The latest version of FH is 7.0.11 so is 7.0.1 a typo?

 

When nothing pastes are you sure there is something in the clipboard?

If nothing is pasted with even a simple text paste, then nothing was copied from Ancestry.

 

If you copy web links from elsewhere are they OK?

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Philip Haddock
Sent: 10 May 2022 12:11
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

Hi Mike,

Thanks for getting back to me.

 

I am using version 7.0.1 and installed the update some time ago. I have been able to copy records from the Ancestry UK website and then pasting them with website link option into the FH Rich Text Note Window ( the version with additional word processing functions e.g. text colours, bullet points and insert table) for the relevant individual. 

 

Now when I try pasting them neither the simple paste nor the option for website link work (i.e. nothing pastes) Only pasting as unformatted text works.

 

Kind regards,

Philip Haddock


From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> on behalf of Mike Tate <post@...>
Sent: 10 May 2022 11:36
To: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

Philip,

To help us diagnose what is happening you need to provide more details.

What has changed since it last worked for you?

Have you updated FH to a later version?

Are you talking about the plain text Note box or the FH V7 Rich Text Note window?

Exactly what paste options are you choosing?

Please explain exactly what is no longer working: Is nothing getting copied at all or what?

 

Obviously, you can see what you are doing and what is happening but we cannot.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of philip.haddock@...
Sent: 10 May 2022 08:48
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

I can no longer copy records from Ancestry with the website link and past them into notes for an individual. Can anyone suggest why?

Philip Haddock


Re: copy and paste website links

Mike Tate
 

Hi Philip,

The latest version of FH is 7.0.11 so is 7.0.1 a typo?

 

When nothing pastes are you sure there is something in the clipboard?

If nothing is pasted with even a simple text paste, then nothing was copied from Ancestry.

 

If you copy web links from elsewhere are they OK?

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Philip Haddock
Sent: 10 May 2022 12:11
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

Hi Mike,

Thanks for getting back to me.

 

I am using version 7.0.1 and installed the update some time ago. I have been able to copy records from the Ancestry UK website and then pasting them with website link option into the FH Rich Text Note Window ( the version with additional word processing functions e.g. text colours, bullet points and insert table) for the relevant individual. 

 

Now when I try pasting them neither the simple paste nor the option for website link work (i.e. nothing pastes) Only pasting as unformatted text works.

 

Kind regards,

Philip Haddock


From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> on behalf of Mike Tate <post@...>
Sent: 10 May 2022 11:36
To: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

Philip,

To help us diagnose what is happening you need to provide more details.

What has changed since it last worked for you?

Have you updated FH to a later version?

Are you talking about the plain text Note box or the FH V7 Rich Text Note window?

Exactly what paste options are you choosing?

Please explain exactly what is no longer working: Is nothing getting copied at all or what?

 

Obviously, you can see what you are doing and what is happening but we cannot.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of philip.haddock@...
Sent: 10 May 2022 08:48
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

I can no longer copy records from Ancestry with the website link and past them into notes for an individual. Can anyone suggest why?

Philip Haddock


Re: copy and paste website links

Vyger
 


Philip,

Try various web sites for comparison, I am assuming you are referring to the web clip feature?

Be aware a lot of web sites strive to block such direct copy actions, they just don't want you doing it. I know I can grab images from various sites but not the big archive sites.

Jackson



On Tue, 10 May 2022, 10:17 , <philip.haddock@...> wrote:
I can no longer copy records from Ancestry with the website link and past them into notes for an individual. Can anyone suggest why?

Philip Haddock


Re: copy and paste website links

Vyger
 

Philip,

Try various web sites for comparison, I am assuming you are referring to the web clip feature?

Be aware a lot of web sites strive to block such direct copy actions, they just don't want you doing it. I know I can grab images from various sites but not the big archive sites.

Jackson



On Tue, 10 May 2022, 10:17 , <philip.haddock@...> wrote:
I can no longer copy records from Ancestry with the website link and past them into notes for an individual. Can anyone suggest why?

Philip Haddock


Re: copy and paste website links

Philip Haddock
 

Hi Mike,
Thanks for getting back to me.

I am using version 7.0.1 and installed the update some time ago. I have been able to copy records from the Ancestry UK website and then pasting them with website link option into the FH Rich Text Note Window ( the version with additional word processing functions e.g. text colours, bullet points and insert table) for the relevant individual. 

Now when I try pasting them neither the simple paste nor the option for website link work (i.e. nothing pastes) Only pasting as unformatted text works.

Kind regards,
Philip Haddock

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> on behalf of Mike Tate <post@...>
Sent: 10 May 2022 11:36
To: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [family-historian] copy and paste website links
 

Philip,

To help us diagnose what is happening you need to provide more details.

What has changed since it last worked for you?

Have you updated FH to a later version?

Are you talking about the plain text Note box or the FH V7 Rich Text Note window?

Exactly what paste options are you choosing?

Please explain exactly what is no longer working: Is nothing getting copied at all or what?

 

Obviously, you can see what you are doing and what is happening but we cannot.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of philip.haddock@...
Sent: 10 May 2022 08:48
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

I can no longer copy records from Ancestry with the website link and past them into notes for an individual. Can anyone suggest why?

Philip Haddock


Re: copy and paste website links

Mike Tate
 

Philip,

To help us diagnose what is happening you need to provide more details.

What has changed since it last worked for you?

Have you updated FH to a later version?

Are you talking about the plain text Note box or the FH V7 Rich Text Note window?

Exactly what paste options are you choosing?

Please explain exactly what is no longer working: Is nothing getting copied at all or what?

 

Obviously, you can see what you are doing and what is happening but we cannot.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of philip.haddock@...
Sent: 10 May 2022 08:48
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] copy and paste website links

 

I can no longer copy records from Ancestry with the website link and past them into notes for an individual. Can anyone suggest why?

Philip Haddock


copy and paste website links

Philip Haddock
 

I can no longer copy records from Ancestry with the website link and past them into notes for an individual. Can anyone suggest why?

Philip Haddock


Re: Ancestral Sources

Doug Byway
 

Thank-you, Nick, that's sorted the problem!

Sent from Outlook


From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> on behalf of Nick Walker (Ancestral Sources) <nick@...>
Sent: 03 May 2022 14:31
To: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestral Sources
 
Hi Doug

Go to Tools->Options->Census Settings and you will probably want to tick the "(Offer to create birth facts) even if existing birth includes place and date" option. There are similar options for all the other source types too.

Best wishes

Nick

Nick Walker
Ancestral Sources Developer

On 03/05/2022 15:14 Doug Byway <doug_byway@...> wrote:


Hello, I am having a small problem with Census entry.
I am using AS v.7.3.5 64bit. Method 2
On saving, I was used to being prompted for Birth Date and Place for each individual recorded in the Census. This now only happens for Individuals which do not already have this info. recorded in FH.
I must have inadvertently changed a Setting, but cannot work out which one.
Your help to revert this situation would be very much appreciated.
Many thanks
Doug Byway

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