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Re: Import from TMG does not import all Media

Mike Tate
 

Does this mean the “Import from TMG froze during Citation import” problem has been resolved?

 

No “trick” should be needed to import all Media exhibits.

Is FH running such the external Media is on a drive visible to FH?

Try the Tools > External File Links… command that lists all Media record links to Media files.

The File Links pane should list the file path(s) to your TMG external Media files.

If you tick Show Broken Links Only are there entries with an X icon on the left?

The Auto Repair Links button might fix them.

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Constance Chappell Horne
Sent: 17 January 2022 21:16
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Import from TMG does not import all Media

 

Is there a "trick" to getting all media imported to FH from TMG? All of my media is external, i.e. not stored internally in TMG but as "regular" images.

Example 1: I have 5 pictures attached to my record. The first one (non-primary) was imported and none of the others were. The second photo was marked as primary.
Example 2: My dad had no media imported and his primary picture was the first one in TMG.

Constance


Import from TMG does not import all Media

Constance Chappell Horne
 

Is there a "trick" to getting all media imported to FH from TMG? All of my media is external, i.e. not stored internally in TMG but as "regular" images.

Example 1: I have 5 pictures attached to my record. The first one (non-primary) was imported and none of the others were. The second photo was marked as primary.
Example 2: My dad had no media imported and his primary picture was the first one in TMG.

Constance


Re: Creating Charts and Reports / Spreadsheets - Names, Birth Dates, Marriage Anniversary Dates, Death Dates

Mike Tate
 

Welcome,

In FH the term Charts refers to family tree diagrams, whereas I think you are talking about spreadsheet-style tables of rows and columns.

 

All your reports can be created and saved in PDF using custom Queries, so investigate the Query toolbar item.

See also the FHUG Knowledge Base “An Overview of Queries”

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/an-overview-of-queries/

 

1) and 2) 2 would need an Individual Query whereas 2) 1 would need a Family Query

 

After reviewing Queries you will probably have more questions.

 


Re: Surety of sources for a fact

Mike Tate
 

Even if FH V6 every Citation has an Assessment setting exactly as defined in GEDCOM with four options.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of colevalleygirl@...
Sent: 17 January 2022 19:53
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Surety of sources for a fact

 

Are you using FH7? If so, see this section of the help: https://www.family-historian.co.uk/help/fh7/hh_goto.htm?hh_start.htm#citationassessmentdialog.html

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Sneithe via groups.io
Sent: 17 January 2022 18:41
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Surety of sources for a fact

 

 

I started  with my genealogy about 40 years ago first using paper then in a computer word processor and then moving on to software solutions for genealogy. I switched to The Master Genealogist about 1993 staying with them until late 2014 when support for the development platform was cropped by Microsoft and Wholly Genes decided to end its run.

In TMG I was able to rate the value of sources and citations in a very granular way. For each fact I could Rate each source for that fact across five categories. Principal 1, principal 2, date, place, and memo or note as FH would see it. The rating followed the GEDCOM standard of using values of 0 to 3. In practice I would rate a source for a fact across these five categories. So for source 1 I may give the date a value of 2 while source 2 may generate a value of 3. 3 being a rock solid value. TMG would then allow me to customize the display of facts to show these 5 categories. It would also show the highest value for these categories based on my sources. I could then look at the facts and quickly see what facts were rock solid and which pieces needed work.

I have run into several birth registers (the source the state would use to create a birth certificate) where it was registered before the parents named the child so that the record would show “Baby” or “Infant” for the first name. This record could not be used to justify a first name for the child. Another record, perhaps a baptismal record, could show the child’s first name. By using the surety value I could then show all the facts about the birth as rock solid which would show on the list of facts for a person. Very useful feature for research and seeing what I needed to work on, etc.

Switching to Rootsmagic in 2014, after correcting many items that were not directly translatable to RM, I found that I lost much of the granularity of rating facts based on my source material. I could use Elizabeth Shown Mills approach to describe how a particular source related to a particular fact and I could then add the proof as proven, dis proven or disputed losing the granularity of TMG.

Coming over to FH it seems that I have taken another step backward on this issue being able to set a flag for Private, Preferred, Tentative or Rejected.  I don’t seem to be able to rate how each source relates to a fact like I could in TMG.

In FH is there a way to be more granular in my rating of sources and facts so that I can use this as a way to focus my research?


Re: Surety of sources for a fact

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Sneithe via groups.io
Sent: 17 January 2022 18:41
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Surety of sources for a fact

 

 

I started  with my genealogy about 40 years ago first using paper then in a computer word processor and then moving on to software solutions for genealogy. I switched to The Master Genealogist about 1993 staying with them until late 2014 when support for the development platform was cropped by Microsoft and Wholly Genes decided to end its run.

In TMG I was able to rate the value of sources and citations in a very granular way. For each fact I could Rate each source for that fact across five categories. Principal 1, principal 2, date, place, and memo or note as FH would see it. The rating followed the GEDCOM standard of using values of 0 to 3. In practice I would rate a source for a fact across these five categories. So for source 1 I may give the date a value of 2 while source 2 may generate a value of 3. 3 being a rock solid value. TMG would then allow me to customize the display of facts to show these 5 categories. It would also show the highest value for these categories based on my sources. I could then look at the facts and quickly see what facts were rock solid and which pieces needed work.

I have run into several birth registers (the source the state would use to create a birth certificate) where it was registered before the parents named the child so that the record would show “Baby” or “Infant” for the first name. This record could not be used to justify a first name for the child. Another record, perhaps a baptismal record, could show the child’s first name. By using the surety value I could then show all the facts about the birth as rock solid which would show on the list of facts for a person. Very useful feature for research and seeing what I needed to work on, etc.

Switching to Rootsmagic in 2014, after correcting many items that were not directly translatable to RM, I found that I lost much of the granularity of rating facts based on my source material. I could use Elizabeth Shown Mills approach to describe how a particular source related to a particular fact and I could then add the proof as proven, dis proven or disputed losing the granularity of TMG.

Coming over to FH it seems that I have taken another step backward on this issue being able to set a flag for Private, Preferred, Tentative or Rejected.  I don’t seem to be able to rate how each source relates to a fact like I could in TMG.

In FH is there a way to be more granular in my rating of sources and facts so that I can use this as a way to focus my research?


Creating Charts and Reports / Spreadsheets - Names, Birth Dates, Marriage Anniversary Dates, Death Dates

Dee
 

Hi

 

Hope all are well.

 

I have just joined the group and have a few questions regarding the charts and reports / spreadsheets from Family Historian V7.

 

1) 1)  Is it possible to create and print in PDF a chart that has the following conditions:

·         Name of deceased

·         Death date of deceased

·         Birth date of deceased

·         Names of living people only (ie: no birth dates or marriage dates)

I have tried to create a chart in this way from the charts that are included in the software package but cannot find a chart like this. How do I go about doing this?

 

2) 2)  I would like to create a report and spreadsheet from the software that shows the following details:

 

1. Report / Spreadsheet 1 in month, day, year order:

·         Names of couple

·         Marriage Anniversary day

·         Marriage Anniversary Month

·         Marriage Anniversary Year

 

2. Report / Spreadsheet 2 in month, day, year order:

·         Name of Deceased,

·         Death date of deceased day

·         death date of deceased month

·         death date of deceased year

·         Birth date of deceased day

·         Birth date of deceased month

·         Birth date of deceased year
Is there a way to be able to extract this information from the family tree? How can I do this?

 

If anyone knows how to do the above, then I would appreciate it if you could please let me know.

 

Thank you and kind regards


Surety of sources for a fact

Edward Sneithe
 


I started  with my genealogy about 40 years ago first using paper then in a computer word processor and then moving on to software solutions for genealogy. I switched to The Master Genealogist about 1993 staying with them until late 2014 when support for the development platform was cropped by Microsoft and Wholly Genes decided to end its run.

In TMG I was able to rate the value of sources and citations in a very granular way. For each fact I could Rate each source for that fact across five categories. Principal 1, principal 2, date, place, and memo or note as FH would see it. The rating followed the GEDCOM standard of using values of 0 to 3. In practice I would rate a source for a fact across these five categories. So for source 1 I may give the date a value of 2 while source 2 may generate a value of 3. 3 being a rock solid value. TMG would then allow me to customize the display of facts to show these 5 categories. It would also show the highest value for these categories based on my sources. I could then look at the facts and quickly see what facts were rock solid and which pieces needed work.

I have run into several birth registers (the source the state would use to create a birth certificate) where it was registered before the parents named the child so that the record would show “Baby” or “Infant” for the first name. This record could not be used to justify a first name for the child. Another record, perhaps a baptismal record, could show the child’s first name. By using the surety value I could then show all the facts about the birth as rock solid which would show on the list of facts for a person. Very useful feature for research and seeing what I needed to work on, etc.

Switching to Rootsmagic in 2014, after correcting many items that were not directly translatable to RM, I found that I lost much of the granularity of rating facts based on my source material. I could use Elizabeth Shown Mills approach to describe how a particular source related to a particular fact and I could then add the proof as proven, dis proven or disputed losing the granularity of TMG.

Coming over to FH it seems that I have taken another step backward on this issue being able to set a flag for Private, Preferred, Tentative or Rejected.  I don’t seem to be able to rate how each source relates to a fact like I could in TMG.

In FH is there a way to be more granular in my rating of sources and facts so that I can use this as a way to focus my research?


Re: Unnecessary death events.

Mike Tate
 

I would keep those Death events unless you are sure they have not died yet.

Some tools and products assume a person is alive unless there is a Death event even if they would be 200 years old.

So it may be better to keep them without details than delete them.

It is possible to configure the Sentence Template so the Narrative Report does not just say “He/She died”.

 


Re: Unnecessary death events.

Jane Taubman
 


Unnecessary death events.

Keith Mead
 

When I moved my data to FH from an old program (UFT), I found I had created a lot of death events with no date or other useful information attached.  So when I generate a narrative report, it contains statements like "He died" or "She died". Not very helpful.
Is there a way to produce a query that will list all death events with no date attached (or all death events, with the date or lack of it in another column)?  Then I can go down the list and delete all the unnecesary ones.
Thanks.


Re: Advice wanted on improving my tree

Iain
 

Lorna, Thank you for agreeing that my approach sounds appropriate.  I shall build on that.

Tom: Thank you but I have already reached back pretty evenly across all my branches.  I need to try and get some consistency in evidence and citations.  My mother, born a MacLean, had been told as a child that the MacLean Clan had their own boat at the Flood.  My father would then say that the Morrisons had built it for them!

Trevor:  I am sure you are right.  I conflated my thoughts on starting Family Historian when I started using a PC with a different piece of software for genealogy.


Re: Import from TMG froze during Citation import

Mike Tate
 

OK, your choice, but it is not so easy to post screenshot images or cross-refer to the FHUG Knowledge Base as it is in the FHUG Forum.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Constance Chappell Horne
Sent: 16 January 2022 18:26
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Import from TMG froze during Citation import

 

Ok. I like Groups.IO better anyway.

C


Re: Import from TMG froze during Citation import

Constance Chappell Horne
 

Ok. I like Groups.IO better anyway.

C


Re: Circular GEDCOM files

Paul White
 

I'd bet you will, John :D


Re: Import from TMG froze during Citation import

Mike Tate
 

Hi Constance,

As a newcomer you won’t know, but the general advice is to only post a problem here or in the FHUG Forum but not both.

The same experienced users monitor both, so there is no advantage in posting in both.

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Constance Chappell Horne
Sent: 15 January 2022 22:23
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Import from TMG froze during Citation import

 

I downloaded the trial version and attempted an import from TMG. It failed during the Citation import at 5191/ 7657.

Any ideas on how to find the offending citation?

There was nothing imported since it froze and I had to cancel the import.

Constance


Re: Advice wanted on improving my tree

Trevor Rix
 

Tom, my comment was to correct what @hectorinspector wrote.


Import from TMG froze during Citation import

Constance Chappell Horne
 

I downloaded the trial version and attempted an import from TMG. It failed during the Citation import at 5191/ 7657.

Any ideas on how to find the offending citation?

There was nothing imported since it froze and I had to cancel the import.

Constance


Re: Advice wanted on improving my tree

Tom Santa Cruz
 

Trevor,

Most of the suggestions have targeted enriching your “600”. 

I will suggest you also graph your ancestral tree and then identify where branches stopped growing.  Then, re-research these “dead ends”.  Resources have improved over the 30 years.  


On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 6:20 AM Trevor Rix <trevor@...> wrote:
Actually Family Historian was publically launched as version 2 in May 2002, so your 30 years is somewhat over optimistic.


Re: Susbscription stopped

David Dewick
 

Yes I think so. Success will be if I get messages back in my inbox. 🙂


On 15 Jan 2022, at 11:01, Brian Bottomley via groups.io <bpb87@...> wrote:

 Similar to others I received the following:

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On 15/01/2022 10:05, David Dewick wrote:

I got this message this morning:

 

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Re: Susbscription stopped

Neil Grantham
 

This sort of thing can happen if your email provider tweaks it's spam filters, so the email from the Groups.io domain suddenly goes to spam.

I once inadvertently marked a Mail as spam and then had to go through the 'remove' process.

I also find emails in spam occasionally and have the option to mark as 'Not Spam and safe sender' or safe domain, though these opines for some reason don't trigger the removal.


Best Wishes

Neil

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From: Brian Bottomley via groups.io
Sent: Jan 15, 2022 at 11:01 AM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Susbscription stopped

Similar to others I received the following:

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To view the error messages we receive from your email server, click here.

We have suspended email delivery to you. This means you will no longer receive messages from the groups you are subscribed to, including:

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I was suspicious at first so rather than click on the link, went direct to the Groups.io site, logged on and unbounced myself. So I guess this is genuine but a little unexpected.


On 15/01/2022 10:05, David Dewick wrote:

I got this message this morning:

 

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