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You should be OK. Your message got through.

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From: Derek Kain
Sent: Jan 15, 2022 at 10:15 AM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Susbscription stopped

Hello David, Yes there were two emails in spam moved them and clicked on Resume Subscription. Is that all I need to do?
Derek

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Re: Susbscription stopped

Derek Kain
 

Hello David, Yes there were two emails in spam moved them and clicked on Resume Subscription. Is that all I need to do?
Derek

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Re: Advice wanted on improving my tree

Trevor Rix
 

Actually Family Historian was publically launched as version 2 in May 2002, so your 30 years is somewhat over optimistic.


Re: Occupation, how to force FH to display the preferred Occupation?

@JoopvB
 

I am sorry Helen and Lorna; mixing up names is a genealogist's nightmare. Won't happen again (I hope :)).

Cheers, Jurriaan


Re: Advice wanted on improving my tree

Michael Thomas
 

Please excuse my interjection.

I have been following this group after asking Mike Tate (sp.?) a question
months ago. You are all way ahead of me !



Lorna has raised an excellent point about the ‘extra bits of information
about other people’ on a single document.

This resonated with me as it happened to me yesterday. You will know that
the 1921 Census has just become available so I decided to explore my
paternal line as I have neglected this.

Straightaway I came across my grandparents’ marriage certificate which was
fine except that I had not looked carefully at the witnesses. One was a
familiar great-aunt, but the other was quite new to me and carrying my
family surname.

I called a cousin who is related to the cosignatory – nothing at all except
surprise. Now I must start from scratch without even a birth or death
date/year.



Lorna’s methodology seems totally logical to me.

Best wishes,



Michael Thomas



From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Lorna Craig via groups.io
Sent: 13 January 2022 20:01
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Advice wanted on improving my tree



My approach would be to take each document in turn, rather than each
individual.

Some documents contain a lot of extra information about other people, which
you might miss if you are concentrating on one person at a time. For
example a birth certificate gives not only the date and place of birth of
one individual but also the names of their parents and the father's
occupation. (A Scottish birth certificate even gives the date of marriage of
the parents!) Similarly a marriage certificate gives the names and
occupations of the fathers of the bride and groom. These extra bits of
information about other people can all be gleaned from the one document,
which can be cited as the source for all of them. Make sure you extract all
the information you can from each document. The Ancestral Sources program
is designed to help with this task and automate the process of creating a
Source record and linking the image of the document to it. It is ideal for
handling censuses, which as you say can refer to many members of the same
family.

If you move the image of each document into the FH Media folder as you deal
with it, it will be easy to keep track of which ones you have still to deal
with - they will be the ones left in your 'My Family Tree' folder. You can
keep the same structure of sub-folder in the Media folder as you have in
your current folder.

Lorna

On 13/01/2022 19:31, ihmorrison via groups.io wrote:

Hello

I have been using Family Historian for almost 30 years, since either V2 or
V3, and am now on V7. I have 600 names in my tree, but I have never taken a
consistent approach. I have filed many census records and birth
certificates but have not always used them as citations. I have a number of
document folders on my computer marked WIP, or documents from so-an-so, or
awaiting transfer. Every time I go into Family Historian I get side-tracked
into investigating individuals, rather than bringing order.



All my documents and pictures are stored in separate named folders within
the folder My Family Tree, and are not stored in the Media folder of FH. Is
it worth the effort to transfer and relink them all? I suspect not.



My aim is to make a reasonable stab at getting things in order, bringing
all the source documents into FH, and citing as much as possible. I would
like to think that I could handover my work to the next generation!



One approach is to start at Record 1, update it with the necessary
documents and citations, then repeat. But a typical Census page could refer
to a dozen members of one family, and there could be confusion about whether
I had brought that in or not.



My second thought is to take each document in turn, move it into FH, then
use Ancestry Source to cite each person named. Hence each document is a
step and it is easy to see progress. When that is done, it would be easy to
identify people without documents or citations.



I welcome your thoughts.



The Inspector


Advice wanted on improving my tree

Iain
 

Hello

I have been using Family Historian for almost 30 years, since either V2 or V3, and am now on V7.  I have 600 names in my tree, but I have never taken a consistent approach.  I have filed many census records and birth certificates but have not always used them as citations.  I have a number of document folders on my computer marked WIP, or documents from so-an-so, or awaiting transfer.  Every time I go into Family Historian I get side-tracked into investigating individuals, rather than bringing order.

 

All my documents and pictures are stored in separate named folders within the folder My Family Tree, and are not stored in the Media folder of FH.  Is it worth the effort to transfer and relink them all?  I suspect not. 

 

My aim is to make a reasonable stab at getting things in order, bringing all the source documents into FH, and citing as much as possible.  I would like to think that I could handover my work to the next generation!

 

One approach is to start at Record 1, update it with the necessary documents and citations, then repeat.  But a typical Census page could refer to a dozen members of one family, and there could be confusion about whether I had brought that in or not.

 

My second thought is to take each document in turn, move it into FH, then use Ancestry Source to cite each person named.  Hence each document is a step and it is easy to see progress.  When that is done, it would be easy to identify people without documents or citations.

 

I welcome your thoughts.

 

The Inspector

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Advice wanted on improving my tree

Michael Thomas
 

Please excuse my interjection.

I have been following this group after asking Mike Tate (sp.?) a question months ago. You are all way ahead of me !

 

Lorna has raised an excellent point about the ‘extra bits of information about other people’ on a single document.

This resonated with me as it happened to me yesterday. You will know that the 1921 Census has just become available so I decided to explore my paternal line as I have neglected this.

Straightaway I came across my grandparents’ marriage certificate which was fine except that I had not looked carefully at the witnesses. One was a familiar great-aunt, but the other was quite new to me and carrying my family surname.

I called a cousin who is related to the cosignatory – nothing at all except surprise. Now I must start from scratch without even a birth or death date/year.

 

Lorna’s methodology seems totally logical to me.

Best wishes,

 

Michael Thomas

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Lorna Craig via groups.io
Sent: 13 January 2022 20:01
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Advice wanted on improving my tree

 

My approach would be to take each document in turn, rather than each individual. 

Some documents contain a lot of extra information about other people, which you might miss if you are concentrating on one person at a time.  For example a birth certificate gives not only the date and place of birth of one individual but also the names of their parents and the father's occupation. (A Scottish birth certificate even gives the date of marriage of the parents!) Similarly a marriage certificate gives the names and occupations of the fathers of the bride and groom.  These extra bits of information about other people can all be gleaned from the one document, which can be cited as the source for all of them.  Make sure you extract all the information you can from each document.   The Ancestral Sources program is designed to help with this task and automate the process of creating a Source record and linking the image of the document to it.  It is ideal for handling censuses, which as you say can refer to many members of the same family.

If you move the image of each document into the FH Media folder as you deal with it, it will be easy to keep track of which ones you have still to deal with - they will be the ones left in your 'My Family Tree' folder.   You can keep the same structure of sub-folder in the Media folder as you have in your current folder.

Lorna

On 13/01/2022 19:31, ihmorrison via groups.io wrote:

Hello

I have been using Family Historian for almost 30 years, since either V2 or V3, and am now on V7.  I have 600 names in my tree, but I have never taken a consistent approach.  I have filed many census records and birth certificates but have not always used them as citations.  I have a number of document folders on my computer marked WIP, or documents from so-an-so, or awaiting transfer.  Every time I go into Family Historian I get side-tracked into investigating individuals, rather than bringing order.

 

All my documents and pictures are stored in separate named folders within the folder My Family Tree, and are not stored in the Media folder of FH.  Is it worth the effort to transfer and relink them all?  I suspect not. 

 

My aim is to make a reasonable stab at getting things in order, bringing all the source documents into FH, and citing as much as possible.  I would like to think that I could handover my work to the next generation!

 

One approach is to start at Record 1, update it with the necessary documents and citations, then repeat.  But a typical Census page could refer to a dozen members of one family, and there could be confusion about whether I had brought that in or not.

 

My second thought is to take each document in turn, move it into FH, then use Ancestry Source to cite each person named.  Hence each document is a step and it is easy to see progress.  When that is done, it would be easy to identify people without documents or citations.

 

I welcome your thoughts.

 

The Inspector


Re: Advice wanted on improving my tree

Lorna Craig
 

My approach would be to take each document in turn, rather than each individual. 

Some documents contain a lot of extra information about other people, which you might miss if you are concentrating on one person at a time.  For example a birth certificate gives not only the date and place of birth of one individual but also the names of their parents and the father's occupation. (A Scottish birth certificate even gives the date of marriage of the parents!) Similarly a marriage certificate gives the names and occupations of the fathers of the bride and groom.  These extra bits of information about other people can all be gleaned from the one document, which can be cited as the source for all of them.  Make sure you extract all the information you can from each document.   The Ancestral Sources program is designed to help with this task and automate the process of creating a Source record and linking the image of the document to it.  It is ideal for handling censuses, which as you say can refer to many members of the same family.

If you move the image of each document into the FH Media folder as you deal with it, it will be easy to keep track of which ones you have still to deal with - they will be the ones left in your 'My Family Tree' folder.   You can keep the same structure of sub-folder in the Media folder as you have in your current folder.

Lorna

On 13/01/2022 19:31, ihmorrison via groups.io wrote:

Hello

I have been using Family Historian for almost 30 years, since either V2 or V3, and am now on V7.  I have 600 names in my tree, but I have never taken a consistent approach.  I have filed many census records and birth certificates but have not always used them as citations.  I have a number of document folders on my computer marked WIP, or documents from so-an-so, or awaiting transfer.  Every time I go into Family Historian I get side-tracked into investigating individuals, rather than bringing order.

 

All my documents and pictures are stored in separate named folders within the folder My Family Tree, and are not stored in the Media folder of FH.  Is it worth the effort to transfer and relink them all?  I suspect not. 

 

My aim is to make a reasonable stab at getting things in order, bringing all the source documents into FH, and citing as much as possible.  I would like to think that I could handover my work to the next generation!

 

One approach is to start at Record 1, update it with the necessary documents and citations, then repeat.  But a typical Census page could refer to a dozen members of one family, and there could be confusion about whether I had brought that in or not.

 

My second thought is to take each document in turn, move it into FH, then use Ancestry Source to cite each person named.  Hence each document is a step and it is easy to see progress.  When that is done, it would be easy to identify people without documents or citations.

 

I welcome your thoughts.

 

The Inspector


Advice wanted on improving my tree

Iain
 

Hello

I have been using Family Historian for almost 30 years, since either V2 or V3, and am now on V7.  I have 600 names in my tree, but I have never taken a consistent approach.  I have filed many census records and birth certificates but have not always used them as citations.  I have a number of document folders on my computer marked WIP, or documents from so-an-so, or awaiting transfer.  Every time I go into Family Historian I get side-tracked into investigating individuals, rather than bringing order.

 

All my documents and pictures are stored in separate named folders within the folder My Family Tree, and are not stored in the Media folder of FH.  Is it worth the effort to transfer and relink them all?  I suspect not. 

 

My aim is to make a reasonable stab at getting things in order, bringing all the source documents into FH, and citing as much as possible.  I would like to think that I could handover my work to the next generation!

 

One approach is to start at Record 1, update it with the necessary documents and citations, then repeat.  But a typical Census page could refer to a dozen members of one family, and there could be confusion about whether I had brought that in or not.

 

My second thought is to take each document in turn, move it into FH, then use Ancestry Source to cite each person named.  Hence each document is a step and it is easy to see progress.  When that is done, it would be easy to identify people without documents or citations.

 

I welcome your thoughts.

 

The Inspector


Re: Occupation, how to force FH to display the preferred Occupation?

Lorna Craig
 

In case anyone is still confused, colevalleygirl is Helen, not me!  (Though I’d be happy to take credit for her work!)

 

From: colevalleygirl@...
Sent: 13 January 2022 11:29
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Occupation, how to force FH to display the preferred Occupation?

 

No problem, Jurriaan :)

Thanks Lorna,

Every new year I learn something new! Makes me wonder what more is in stock for me.:)

 


Re: Occupation, how to force FH to display the preferred Occupation?

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

No problem, Jurriaan :)

Thanks Lorna,

Every new year I learn something new! Makes me wonder what more is in stock for me.:)


Re: Occupation, how to force FH to display the preferred Occupation?

@JoopvB
 

Thanks Lorna,

Every new year I learn something new! Makes me wonder what more is in stock for me.:)


Re: Adding a watermark to a chart

Paul Manning
 

Thanks for your reply, Lorna.

I think it has a problem with PNG files.  I converted it to JPG and it did what it was supposed to do.

Paul


Re: Making my family tree diagrams more readable

Lorna Craig
 

I don’t think there is a video tutorial which covers all the aspects. Is the main problem that the diagram doesn’t look attractive or that it is difficult to interpret?

 

If the problem is that the diagram is too ‘cluttered’ for easy interpretation you might find the Movement Control Box useful.  You can access this from the Diagram menu > Enable Moving/Resizing.  Then click the Help button in the Movement Control Box for more guidance.   This lets you move various parts of a diagram to space out the different branches more clearly, or hide them completely, or expand and move individual boxes (within some constraints).  

 

From: Mike Tate
Sent: 12 January 2022 10:51
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Making my family tree diagrams more readable

 

There are various techniques for customising Diagrams.

Many of them are in the Diagram > Options tab settings or the Diagram menu commands.

If you could explain the deficiencies more specifically then it would be easier to give appropriate advice.

In what format do you need them to be more readable? On-screen, in a PDF file, printed on paper?

 

Are these the sort of styles you might be interested in?

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/download/family-group-chart-3/

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/download/fancy-fan-chart-about-com-3/

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: 12 January 2022 01:40
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Making my family tree diagrams more readable

 

Is there a video tutorial anywhere on tips for making my family tree diagrams prettier and more readable?  I have a lot of relatives in my tree, but when I generate diagrams they aren't as aesthetic as I'd like. Thank you.

_._,_._,_

 


Re: Making my family tree diagrams more readable

Mike Tate
 

There are various techniques for customising Diagrams.

Many of them are in the Diagram > Options tab settings or the Diagram menu commands.

If you could explain the deficiencies more specifically then it would be easier to give appropriate advice.

In what format do you need them to be more readable? On-screen, in a PDF file, printed on paper?

 

Are these the sort of styles you might be interested in?

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/download/family-group-chart-3/

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/download/fancy-fan-chart-about-com-3/

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: 12 January 2022 01:40
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Making my family tree diagrams more readable

 

Is there a video tutorial anywhere on tips for making my family tree diagrams prettier and more readable?  I have a lot of relatives in my tree, but when I generate diagrams they aren't as aesthetic as I'd like. Thank you.


Re: Occupation, how to force FH to display the preferred Occupation?

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

Joop, your whole new world already exists...

 

FH7 supports report plugins. Have a look in the Plugin Help under Special Plugin types. There are examples in C:\Program Files (x86)\Family Historian\Reports\lua and some in the Plugin Store at Report Plugins – Plugin Store (family-historian.co.uk)

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of j.van.beek@...
Sent: 12 January 2022 10:36
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Occupation, how to force FH to display the preferred Occupation?

 

Hi Lorna,

Yes, I've been using several workarounds for years (bundling occupations (with dates as text, using sort dates (in TMG, it's bothersome in FH) etc.). But what I don't understand is why it's not a standard reporting functionality to improve the narratives by having the option to group single dated occupation events into a paragraph (or sentence) to separate this non BMD info from popping up in between the BMD events.

As to creating a reporting plugin... if an entry point like DEA for the entry of sources would exist for reports, a whole new world would be available to us. :)

Who knows... FH8 maybe? :)

Joop


Re: Occupation, how to force FH to display the preferred Occupation?

@JoopvB
 

Hi Lorna,

Yes, I've been using several workarounds for years (bundling occupations (with dates as text, using sort dates (in TMG, it's bothersome in FH) etc.). But what I don't understand is why it's not a standard reporting functionality to improve the narratives by having the option to group single dated occupation events into a paragraph (or sentence) to separate this non BMD info from popping up in between the BMD events.

As to creating a reporting plugin... if an entry point like DEA for the entry of sources would exist for reports, a whole new world would be available to us. :)

Who knows... FH8 maybe? :)

Joop


Making my family tree diagrams more readable

Dave
 

Is there a video tutorial anywhere on tips for making my family tree diagrams prettier and more readable?  I have a lot of relatives in my tree, but when I generate diagrams they aren't as aesthetic as I'd like. Thank you.

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