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Re: Printing

Mike Tate
 

Sorry Victor but you have lost me.
How are you printing a 99 page spreadsheet directly from FH?
Are you talking about a Query Result Set that can be printed in FH and also saved as a spreadsheet?
A little more clarification of exactly what commands you are using would help me understand.

Mike Tate


Printing

Victor Markham
 

Hi all

I have just learned something new about printing.

I printed a relationship list of my sister on a spreadsheet. Initially I saved the list then started pronting direct from FH software. It was good. I encountered a problem with my printer.

After sorting the problem out I stated printing the list from the saved spreadsheet. I was puzzled because the printing was not the same as direct from the FH. The FH stated it was 99 pages but the saved edition said it was 295 pages! So I went back to FH and got back to the FJH print.

A diffr3nce between the 2 is FH lists the page numbers, like Page 50 of 99. The saved version doesn't give any page numbers. Also FH gives the same heading on every page like Relationships of ... (my sisters name) The saved version dosn't give anything

Just thought I would make others aware of the two types of versions when it comes to svaing and printing

Victor


Re: Second Source

paul.currell@...
 

My apologies for not replying earlier but thank you all for your replies and help. I have now created a new project called Test&Try with just a single family in it. I am trying your suggestions to see which suits best.
CheersPaul


Re: family history problem

Mike Tate
 

Rick,

The fact that a Property Box opens suggests they are database entries, albeit with no data recorded.

Are you saying that all three Diagram boxes and associated Property Boxes are devoid of data?

But what about Diagram boxes further up the tree, e.g. the parents of the empty father & mother boxes?

 

After opening an empty Property Box, please open its ‘All’ tab. What is its Record Id shown at the top?

You should be able to find that Individual Record with the same Record Id in the Records Window.

 

When you open either parent Property Box, does the Children section at the bottom show 1 child as [unnamed person]?

 

You seem to be saying that one of the Diagram boxes is a woman with data recorded in her Property Box.

What does it say in her Property Box on the Spouse tab? Does it say <no spouse> or [unnamed person]?

 

 


Re: family history problem

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

Rick, try Windows Snip and Sketch (Windows key-shift-S) to take a snapshot of the problem areas of the diagram.

 

It might be easier if you move the discussion over to the fhug.org.uk forums, if you’re willing to register for an account there. It’s much easier to attach files over there, so we can see what’s going wrong.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Montgomery
Sent: 26 November 2021 19:13
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] family history problem

 

Sorry for the delay. The boxes in the diagram are empty. The double left click shows empty property boxes. I can't find any errors in the underlying databases. One of the empty boxes is attached [married] to a woman who was never married. I wish the was a way to copy and paste the problem areas of the diagram


Re: family history problem

Rick Montgomery
 

Sorry for the delay. The boxes in the diagram are empty. The double left click shows empty property boxes. I can't find any errors in the underlying databases. One of the empty boxes is attached [married] to a woman who was never married. I wish the was a way to copy and paste the problem areas of the diagram


Re: family history problem

Mike Tate
 

Rick, did you get anywhere with solving your diagram problem?

 

What did displaying the Property Boxes reveal?

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 22 November 2021 16:18
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] family history problem

 

Please double-left-click on the Diagram box for either of the couple, i.e. the father or the mother.

That will display their Property Box with any Children listed in the pane at the bottom below the Spouses.

If there are multiple Spouse: tabs then select each tab in turn, including any that say <no spouse>.

Are you sure that none of those Spouse tabs has any Children listed?

 

Additionally, double-left-click the Diagram box of the child to show their Property Box details.

The large blue up arrow at the top of the Property Box will link to the parents.

 

If that still does not explain where the child exists then please describe the characteristics of the three Diagram boxes for the couple and the child, e.g. the background colour, the box outline, the connecting lines, etc.

 

Alternatively, post a screenshot of the Diagram showing the couple & child with one of their Property Boxes open.

 

Mike Tate


Re: Compound queries (join Place to Individual records)

Mike Tate
 

I’ll see you over in the FHUG Forums.

 

There is a ~SPOU shortcut to get to the wife’s husband but does get a bit trickier when there is more than one,

i.e. ~SPOU[1], ~SPOU[2], ~SPOU[3], et seq.

 

Yes, there are plenty of ‘One Name Study’ researchers using FH.

 

Yes, it is a steep learning curve for newcomers, but hang in there.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Zanzig
Sent: 22 November 2021 21:45
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Compound queries (join Place to Individual records)

 

I have found all those, and videos too, spent the weekend studying. I'll move the questions over to the FHUG.

 

All that geocoding I did is going to come in handy for this--I have 35 men with some form of "Johann" and/or "Friederich" in their name (in ONE of their names!) and I have to find out which one was in which place to figure out who a child belongs to at times from clues like occupation.Women are worse because sometimes you first have to figure out who their husband is. There are other one name studies using FH, aren't there? We must all have similar problems.

 

When I said the other day that exporting places was convoluted--I've been thinking about that. I don't have my head around FH's world view yet. When I understand its logic I will be able to figure out where to look for an operation.

 

I'm overwhelmed by the sheer amount of documentation--I love that the various helps explain what happens and why and don't just say "do this". It's marvelous but a lot to work through at the same time.

--Barbara


Re: Compound queries (join Place to Individual records)

Barbara Zanzig
 

I have found all those, and videos too, spent the weekend studying. I'll move the questions over to the FHUG.

All that geocoding I did is going to come in handy for this--I have 35 men with some form of "Johann" and/or "Friederich" in their name (in ONE of their names!) and I have to find out which one was in which place to figure out who a child belongs to at times from clues like occupation.Women are worse because sometimes you first have to figure out who their husband is. There are other one name studies using FH, aren't there? We must all have similar problems.

When I said the other day that exporting places was convoluted--I've been thinking about that. I don't have my head around FH's world view yet. When I understand its logic I will be able to figure out where to look for an operation.

I'm overwhelmed by the sheer amount of documentation--I love that the various helps explain what happens and why and don't just say "do this". It's marvelous but a lot to work through at the same time.
--Barbara


On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 1:15 PM Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Hi Barbara,

You didn’t mention the FH Help pages which are another useful resource.

There is also the FHUG Forum where it is sometimes possible to find answers.

It is often easier to enter into a dialogue there than it is here because sample Queries can be attached.

 

In the FHUG Knowledge Base have you found the many custom Queries in the Downloads?

Also, see ‘An Overview of Queries’: https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/an-overview-of-queries/

That explores ‘Custom Query Types’ and I think Fact type Queries will work for your search.

 

They let your Rows filter test the %FACT.PLAC% of every Fact (Event & Attribute).

At the same time, they can test the Name of the Fact Owner.

 

It is similar to the FHUG Forum posting How to Exclude on Any Fact Place Contains:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=19993

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Zanzig
Sent: 22 November 2021 20:34
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Compound queries (join Place to Individual records)

 

I need help to formulate a query, please. With my one name study, in TMG I did a lot of filters of the sort
"find me everyone with xxx anywhere in their name and any event in a specified place". I've been playing with the Find Text query and the Events within a specified distance.

So far I can get the people or the place but haven't figured out how to join them together. I can see that I have two different types of records so I have to get them to cuddle up together somehow, but I haven't found the right combo yet and I don't think I'm quite ready for plugins.

I have found the knowledge base and the V5 Getting Started with FH book and I'm reading the help files--are there other resources I should know about?

--Barbara


Re: Compound queries (join Place to Individual records)

Mike Tate
 

Hi Barbara,

You didn’t mention the FH Help pages which are another useful resource.

There is also the FHUG Forum where it is sometimes possible to find answers.

It is often easier to enter into a dialogue there than it is here because sample Queries can be attached.

 

In the FHUG Knowledge Base have you found the many custom Queries in the Downloads?

Also, see ‘An Overview of Queries’: https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/an-overview-of-queries/

That explores ‘Custom Query Types’ and I think Fact type Queries will work for your search.

 

They let your Rows filter test the %FACT.PLAC% of every Fact (Event & Attribute).

At the same time, they can test the Name of the Fact Owner.

 

It is similar to the FHUG Forum posting How to Exclude on Any Fact Place Contains:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=19993

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Zanzig
Sent: 22 November 2021 20:34
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Compound queries (join Place to Individual records)

 

I need help to formulate a query, please. With my one name study, in TMG I did a lot of filters of the sort
"find me everyone with xxx anywhere in their name and any event in a specified place". I've been playing with the Find Text query and the Events within a specified distance.

So far I can get the people or the place but haven't figured out how to join them together. I can see that I have two different types of records so I have to get them to cuddle up together somehow, but I haven't found the right combo yet and I don't think I'm quite ready for plugins.

I have found the knowledge base and the V5 Getting Started with FH book and I'm reading the help files--are there other resources I should know about?

--Barbara


Compound queries (join Place to Individual records)

Barbara Zanzig
 

I need help to formulate a query, please. With my one name study, in TMG I did a lot of filters of the sort
"find me everyone with xxx anywhere in their name and any event in a specified place". I've been playing with the Find Text query and the Events within a specified distance.

So far I can get the people or the place but haven't figured out how to join them together. I can see that I have two different types of records so I have to get them to cuddle up together somehow, but I haven't found the right combo yet and I don't think I'm quite ready for plugins.

I have found the knowledge base and the V5 Getting Started with FH book and I'm reading the help files--are there other resources I should know about?

--Barbara


Re: family history problem

Mike Tate
 

Please double-left-click on the Diagram box for either of the couple, i.e. the father or the mother.

That will display their Property Box with any Children listed in the pane at the bottom below the Spouses.

If there are multiple Spouse: tabs then select each tab in turn, including any that say <no spouse>.

Are you sure that none of those Spouse tabs has any Children listed?

 

Additionally, double-left-click the Diagram box of the child to show their Property Box details.

The large blue up arrow at the top of the Property Box will link to the parents.

 

If that still does not explain where the child exists then please describe the characteristics of the three Diagram boxes for the couple and the child, e.g. the background colour, the box outline, the connecting lines, etc.

 

Alternatively, post a screenshot of the Diagram showing the couple & child with one of their Property Boxes open.

 

Mike Tate


Re: family history problem

Rick Montgomery
 

Thanks for responding. I don't see any errors in the database.....just the diagram. For instance, on couple shows a drop down box indicating a child, but they don'y have one


On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 12:40 PM Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

What sort of errors are you talking about?

Please tell us the text of the error messages.

 

Maybe you mean there are discrepancies between what is shown in the Diagram and what is in the Project data.

Usually, that cannot happen.

Whenever a Diagram is displayed it shows the current Project data.

Even a Saved Chart will update with the current Project data.

 

So please can you give more specific details about the “errors”.

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: family history problem

Mike Tate
 

What sort of errors are you talking about?

Please tell us the text of the error messages.

 

Maybe you mean there are discrepancies between what is shown in the Diagram and what is in the Project data.

Usually, that cannot happen.

Whenever a Diagram is displayed it shows the current Project data.

Even a Saved Chart will update with the current Project data.

 

So please can you give more specific details about the “errors”.

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: family history problem

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

You need to give us a little more detail -- what sort of errors? Is the diagram wrong, or is the underlying data wrong?


family history problem

Rick Montgomery
 

There are errors on my family diagram. Is there a way to start a new diagram using the underlying data base?


Re: Managing places

Mike Tate
 

It is not as convoluted as it sounds because many of those are the default options.

Usually, most of the records of the Project need to be exported.

So it is not surprising that to export just Place Records needs a few options changed.

 


Re: Managing places

Barbara Zanzig
 

Seems convoluted but that's a lot of options! Good to know I can do it. This program is in many ways even more complex than TMG, the learning curve right now is steep.

On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 2:53 AM Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Hi Barbara,

 

This topic has been discussed in the FHUG Forums.

 

To save a master geocoded list use the File > Import/Export > Export > GEDCOM File… command.

Use the following option settings:

Do NOT Select any Individual records.

Tick all Records to Exclude except Place Records.

Tick to Exclude all Facts & Notes.

Media Records: Exclude

Source Records: Exclude

Then click OK and ignore the warning about no Individual records to produce a GEDCOM file of only Place records.

That GEDCOM can be used with File > Merge/Compare File to import into a new empty Project.

 

To obtain a listing of all Place record details use Publish > Record Details Report > Record Detail – Places.

Select all the Place records and in Report > Options > Page Layout untick Start records on new page.

That report can be saved as a PDF or RTF word-processor document.

 

Mike Tate

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Re: Bug reporting and feature requests

Barbara Zanzig
 

Thank you, I missed it the first time.

On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 11:10 PM colevalleygirl@... <colevalleygirl@...> wrote:

Bug reporting (From the KB): “If you encounter a problem or fault with Family Historian that cannot be resolved in the FH User Group, then report it via the Help > Technical Support command within the software” (which will take you to a general Support page; scroll down to the bottom for the link to open a support ticket.

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Re: Holding Incomplete Data in FH

Brian Horridge
 

John

One methodology I've used in my One Name Study where I was not (at that moment) sure who the male was would be add the wife and children / grandchildren as a complete but  unconnected tree but leave out Mavis's husband.  Then, when I can identify who the husband is from others of the same name in my ONS you can just connect Mavis (and descendants) as a spouse.  I always use notes to say who she married (and maybe clues if I suspected some likely candidates).

Brian

On 19/11/2021 11:42, johnfirr via groups.io wrote:
I hope I can explain this issue in such a way as it makes sense and would love to know how others approach this.

I like to use FH as my repository for everything as it avoids my having lots of bits of paper which I inevitably lose. However you sometimes come across a snippet of data that its difficult to fit in.

Specifically I was sent an obituary cutting by email that incicates that a James married Mavis and they had at least two children Sue and Andy. They also had four grandchildren and a great grandchild but at this stage I obviously dont know who the grandchildren or great garndchild belong to ( Sue or Andy)  as it doesnt give their surnames.

Now I dont want to do more work on this at the moment as I am wading through censuses as part of a one name study but want to capture them in FH to hold what I have. I can obviously put together a family group for Robert, Mavis, Sue and Andy but dont know at this stage how to slot in the grandchildren.

Does anyone else ever have this conundrum and how do you handle it ( or is it just down to my adopting a process that just doesnt make sense?)

regards
John Firr

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