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Re: Additional info on shared people

Lorna Craig
 

Mike, it's not "heroine", it's "heirone" which I suspect is "heir one", as the sentence includes "Other heirs were:".

On 15/09/2021 22:07, Mike Tate wrote:

It might be possible, but I don’t understand what you mean by the place of the heroine, etc.

Places are associate with facts, not people, so where are you hoping to extract that detail?

 

Mike

 



Re: Additional info on shared people

Edward Sneithe
 

I may be asking for too much and  I may have mis-spoken about the place but if I look at the fact that is generated in the roles  list of facts there is one that uses the sentence provided for in the Role definition. It also has a place, date, address, and note. So maybe I could access those? My thought was to be able to have a sentence that would identify the person by more than the ID so that a particular Joshua would be from Boston whereas the other Joshuas would be from different places

I may have another way to accomplish this but it MAY involve more work.

On Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 05:07:41 PM EDT, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:


It might be possible, but I don’t understand what you mean by the place of the heroine, etc.

Places are associate with facts, not people, so where are you hoping to extract that detail?

 

Mike

 


Re: Additional info on shared people

Mike Tate
 

It might be possible, but I don’t understand what you mean by the place of the heroine, etc.

Places are associate with facts, not people, so where are you hoping to extract that detail?

 

Mike

 


Re: Additional info on shared people

Edward Sneithe
 

Mike this is from the sentence in the primary person who has the fact but I was wondering if I can get data from the role person?

For the primary fact I would say
<para>{value} was first owned by {principal} < {date}>< at {address}>< {place}>{=TextIf(Exists(%FACT._SHAR%) and Not(%FACT._SHAR.ROLE% = "Wife") or Exists(%FACT._SHAR[2]%)," Other heirs were:","")}<<br>   heirone: {role(single)=heirone}><<br>   heirones: {role(plural)=heirone}><para>

This will get me the name of the hir but can I get additional info about the specific heir. Can I get the detail of place of heirone, etc from the role not the primary fact holder?

On Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 01:13:08 PM EDT, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:


Yes, use the {date} {place} {age} codes as usual to get details of the witnessed fact.

 


Re: editing a decendants report

Neil Grantham
 



------ Original Message ------
From: "Nev Ramsden" <black.sail38@...>
To: family-historian@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 15 Sep, 2021 At 18:54
Subject: [family-historian] editing a decendants report

Hi,
If I save a Descendants Report and then reopen it in Microsoft Word to allow me to make some additions – then when I try to re-save the modified report I am given the following message
“you are attempting to save a file type (rtf) that has been blocked by your File Block Settings in the Trust Center”
Why does this happen?
How do I stop it, so that I can make my additions?
Nev.Ramsden

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Neil Grantham
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Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Re: editing a decendants report

Victor Markham
 

Before working on the rtf file save it as a word document and work on that. The file will automatically save as you work along

On 15 Sep 2021, at 18:55, Nev Ramsden <black.sail38@...> wrote:
Hi,
 
If I save a Descendants Report and then reopen it in Microsoft Word to allow me to make some additions – then when I try to re-save the modified report I am given the following message
“you are attempting to save a file type (rtf) that has been blocked by your File Block Settings in the Trust Center”
Why does this happen?
How do I stop it, so that I can make my additions?
 
Nev.Ramsden


editing a decendants report

Nev Ramsden
 

Hi,
 
If I save a Descendants Report and then reopen it in Microsoft Word to allow me to make some additions – then when I try to re-save the modified report I am given the following message
“you are attempting to save a file type (rtf) that has been blocked by your File Block Settings in the Trust Center”
Why does this happen?
How do I stop it, so that I can make my additions?
 
Nev.Ramsden


Re: Additional info on shared people

Mike Tate
 

Yes, use the {date} {place} {age} codes as usual to get details of the witnessed fact.

 


Additional info on shared people

Edward Sneithe
 

For a shared fact I include the following from the principals fact sentence to get basic information on the people sharing this fact. Is it possible to get additional information about the shared person from this point? I include the following in my sentence for the principal owner of the fact and this works fine:

<<br>       • Son: {role(single)=son}><<br>       • Sons: {role(plural)=son}>

In the FH GEDCOM file the share looks like this if the share points to a person in the file:

2 _SHAR @I2@
3 ROLE father
3 _SENT {individual} was father of {principal} < in the [date:YEAR] census>

and this if you just enter name for the shared person.

2 _SHAN Benny Goodman
3 ROLE administrator

In the first case FH must go to the specified individual to get the name. Does this make it at all possible to get additional information on the shared person like place, age, etc.?


Re: Number of people in file

Mike Tate
 

Don’t worry Ron, that confusion with largest Record Id versus the total number of records is a recurrent topic. You are not alone.

 

That is one reason why there is an FHUG KB topic on the subject.

 

Mike

 


Re: Number of people in file

info@...
 

Hi Mike.
Thank you for that, you are, as usual, quite correct. You never stop learning with FH, must be my age. Thanks again
Ron O'Neill


Re: Number of people in file

lmillerd.msw@...
 

My guess would be that if youre looking into a family that has some potential repeated ancestors, FH perhaps notes it as separate individuals based on the number of spots of who appear in the tree and doesnt exclude the number of times it is repeated?

Just a guess.

Lauren Millerd

On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 4:41 AM <info@...> wrote:
I get lots of gedcom files sent to me but I have never experienced this before.
In FH there are 820 people in the file but when opening the gedcom in 4 other different programs they all say 785 people.
Can anybody suggest why this would be ?
Thanks
Ron O'Neill


Re: Number of people in file

Mike Tate
 

Are you misreading what FH is telling you?

On the bottom right-hand margin of the main window, FH reports the number of Individual records and Family records.

Also, the File > File Statistics… command reports the number of every type of record.

I suspect you are looking at the largest Record Id in the Records Window, but those Record Id may have gaps in the sequence.

See FHUG Knowledge Base https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/record-identifiers/.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of info@...
Sent: 14 September 2021 09:41
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Number of people in file

 

I get lots of gedcom files sent to me but I have never experienced this before.
In FH there are 820 people in the file but when opening the gedcom in 4 other different programs they all say 785 people.
Can anybody suggest why this would be ?
Thanks
Ron O'Neill


Number of people in file

info@...
 

I get lots of gedcom files sent to me but I have never experienced this before.
In FH there are 820 people in the file but when opening the gedcom in 4 other different programs they all say 785 people.
Can anybody suggest why this would be ?
Thanks
Ron O'Neill


Re: Backup not working correctly

Mark Glinister
 

Thanks for replying.  I am using the current up to date version, and it seems to working OK now!  I have saved a full project to a separate hard drive and also to my computer and fingers crossed it looks alright.  Anything else happens, I'll let you know!  Thanks


Re: Backup not working correctly

Mike Tate
 

Mark,

Can you please confirm some further details? Please answer as many of these questions as possible.

 

What FH Version are you using? (There are some know backup issues with earlier versions.)

Exactly what backup command are you using?

What is the backup filepath where the backup is being saved and what type of device is that?

How large is the backup ZIP file that gets produced?

Exactly what is the error message?

Is it “Stopped Working” or is it “Not Responding” and where does it appear?

Has this backup worked OK previously on either the old PC or the new PC?

How did you migrate your data from the old PC to the new PC?

 

The more background you can provide the quicker this problem can be resolved.

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: Backup not working correctly

Robert Jordan
 

Mark
Does it say that FH has stopped working or that FH "is not responding" if it is the latter wait for a while.and it should complete. I have had that too and for some reason it takes longer that one expects
Robert


On Mon, 13 Sept 2021 at 08:10, Mark Glinister via groups.io <m.glinister=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

Good evening,

I have been having problems when backing up FH.  The progress bar goes so far then stops and a message appears saying that FH has stopped working.  The data that has been entered appears to be correct when I go into the program again. Could it be that the computer is a new one and that the data transfer from the old one is corrupted somehow, maybe multiple locations for media files?  I'm just clutching at straws now.  Any advice would be great.  Thank you.

Mark Glinister


Backup not working correctly

Mark Glinister
 

Good evening,

I have been having problems when backing up FH.  The progress bar goes so far then stops and a message appears saying that FH has stopped working.  The data that has been entered appears to be correct when I go into the program again. Could it be that the computer is a new one and that the data transfer from the old one is corrupted somehow, maybe multiple locations for media files?  I'm just clutching at straws now.  Any advice would be great.  Thank you.

Mark Glinister


Re: Formatting Narrative report

Mike Tate
 

You are correct, <br> or <para> are not allowed in the Note field (or any other field) as they are exclusively Sentence Template codes.

 

It is not too difficult to test for the existence of %CUR_PRIN.RealestateSell[1]% or %CUR_PRIN.RealestateSell[2]%, etc.

The difficulty is determining whether the Sentence Template is running in %CUR_PRIN.RealestateBuy[1]% or %CUR_PRIN.RealestateBuy[2]%, etc.

Then it needs to ensure the index number [1] or [2], etc, is the same for both RealestateBuy and RealestateSell.

 

Presumably, the facts have unique Dates, so I wonder if something like this works as an evolution of your Birth/Baptism strategy:

=TextIf( %FACT.DATE% == %CUR_PRIN.RealestateBuy[1].DATE% and Exists(%CUR_PRIN.RealestateSell[1]%), … , %FACT.DATE% == %CUR_PRIN.RealestateBuy[2].DATE% and Exists(%CUR_PRIN.RealestateSell[2]%), … , …

 

i.e. If the current Fact Date equals RealestateBuy 1st instance Date then this must be the RealestateBuy 1st instance and needs to check for 1st RealestateSell.

Otherwise, a similar check is needed for the 2nd instance, then the 3rd instance, and so on…

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: Formatting Narrative report

Edward Sneithe
 

Mike,

Thanks for the response. I will look at my data and see if there are any patterns to what I want. You present several interesting ideas which may be made to work for my particular preferences. As I look at this is there a way to see if a preceding or subsequent fact is one I want to combine with? Like in a real estate fact test to see if a preceding fact is another real estate transaction or could I see if any preceding or subsequent fact corresponds to this one. If I can somehow determine that then I could apply the same process I used on the birth and baptism facts.

I have many real estate transactions and they would combine nicely if I can determine from a sentence which ones to combine. I have successfully combined birth and baptism facts and death and burial facts allowing for each one to be present alone or in combination.

Currently I seem to be able to separate facts by putting a carriage return in the note field of the preceding fact which works but is not very elegant or particularly friendly. 7.0.8.2 does bot allow for <br> or <para> in the note field.

This may be an issue where there is no solution. FH does a great job but cannot possibly know how I want to construct a report.

Example:

Birth
RealestateBuy (1)
Education
Census
RealestateBuy (2)
Census
Marriage
RealestateSell (1)
Divorce
census
RealestateSell (2)

In this scenario can I determine  in RealestateBuy (1) that there is a RealestateSell (1) and combine those two sentences. I thought about combining the data for RealestateBuy and RealestateSell into one fact but that kind of messes up my timeline of events. This is the fun and challenging part of genealogy.

On Friday, September 10, 2021, 01:49:30 PM EDT, Michael Thomas via groups.io <mikethomasuk@...> wrote:


Mike

Thanks for coming back so quickly. I am trying to assemble a monograph about my uncle/godfather just now – it’s a nightmare as there are so many sources hence it’s taking priority.

I should have an old report from FH3 and should be able to copy and send it to you so you can see what I mean. Coming shortly with luck.

Michael Thomas

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 10 September 2021 18:24
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Formatting Narrative report

 

Welcome Michael.

I’m not sure what you mean by traditional ‘dropdown’ appearance, but try any of the reports on the ‘Publish’ menu.

e.g. Individual Summary Report, Family Group Sheet, Outline Reports.

 

What you are seeing in Narrative Reports and any other Reports is just the default styles.

FH has many customisation options. See the FHUG Knowledge Base on Reports and Books:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/topic/reports-and-books/

 

Some users write Notes in their own words and adapt the Narrative Report to simply combine those Notes into a biography.

 

Mike Tate

 

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