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Re: Find references

Lorna Craig
 

Use Tools > Work with Data > Places, select the Place from the list and then click Where Used on the right.  The Results Set will display all the uses of that place.   If you click on a record in the first column it will open the Property Box for that record.  Even better, if you double-click on a date in the second column the exact fact will be pre-selected in the Property Box.

Lorna

On 24/07/2021 17:37, Michael Williamson wrote:
I am sure this is a very simple question and has probably been answered before.
I am trying to find out which individuals reference a particular place to go back and correct the entry. At some point I entered spurious information in the place field for some individuals so want to go back to the individual and correct the data. For example I have a place called 'Buried in Bretton and Broughton' so want to find the individual(s) who reference that place and sort out my error.


Find references

Michael Williamson
 

I am sure this is a very simple question and has probably been answered before.
I am trying to find out which individuals reference a particular place to go back and correct the entry. At some point I entered spurious information in the place field for some individuals so want to go back to the individual and correct the data. For example I have a place called 'Buried in Bretton and Broughton' so want to find the individual(s) who reference that place and sort out my error.


Re: Questions about Formatting a Book

stoddarm@...
 

Mike Tate,

Yes it will, thanks.

The request to keep media and notes on the same page was passed on to the developer… sort of. I am in the process of clarifying my request.

What specifically was said “Unfortunately there is not an option to put the images before the citation which if you are using very large images would normally mean they end up on the same page as the title. I have raised this to the developer for consideration for a future release.”

Mickey

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 10:32 AM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Questions about Formatting a Book

 

For genealogy research resources, see the FHUG KB https://fhug.org.uk/kb/.

Start at Links > Services & Utilities and then Research Resources will get you to:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/link-type/research-resources/

That should keep you busy for a while. 😊

Mike Tate

 


Re: Source Template V7

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

It’s not impossible to create Templated Source with multiple citations to that source (even a Birth Certificate Source created used the Essentials template will usually have multiple citations (birth, names of parents, father’s occupation etc.).  And you can create a custom Templated Source for e.g. ‘GRO Birth Certificates’ that allows you to use the Citation fields to identify exactly which certificate.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Tanner-Tremaine
Sent: 22 July 2021 09:54
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Source Template V7

 

If you add a generic source, say GRO Birth records, you can have multiple citations to that source.  I have kept away from the Templated sources mechanism for that very reason.
Paul TT

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Re: Source Template V7

Mike Tate
 

Hi Yasmin,

You are not alone in coping with the task of migration from RM to FH.

There is much discussion and useful Plugins available in the FHUG Forums at https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/index.php

 

You are largely correct that FH Templates favour Method 1 splitter Source Citations.

Whereas other products such as RM favour Method 2 lumped Source Citations.

Are you familiar with the pros & cons of those two methods in FH?

See FHUG Knowledge Base https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/citing-sources-method-1-and-method-2/ for a summary.

In general Method 1 in FH avoids unnecessary duplication of information in Citations.

If that information is not duplicated faithfully then Reports may contain copies of all the variants.

 

However, one of the Plugins I mentioned above allows RM Source Citations and Templates to be imported to FH mostly unaltered.

Alternatively, you could work with FH Generic Sources that support both Method 1 and Method 2.

Another Plugin allows Method 2 Source Citations to be split into Method 1 Source Citations.

There is other advice for importing from RM in the FHUG Knowledge Base.

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: Source Template V7

Paul Tanner-Tremaine
 

If you add a generic source, say GRO Birth records, you can have multiple citations to that source.  I have kept away from the Templated sources mechanism for that very reason.
Paul TT


Re: "In Will" Fact

Mike Tate
 

In the 'Family Historian Sample Project' there is an example of using Will, Death & Probate events for Ian Scot MUNRO.
Both the Will and Probate events have a Fact Witness for the Role of Executor and Beneficiary respectively.
Those Witness Roles appear in each individual's Property Box and Reports.
Other Roles can be defined as necessary.
See https://www.family-historian.co.uk/help/fh7/propertyboxfactstab.html under The Toolbar for Opens the Witnesses Window
and https://www.family-historian.co.uk/help/fh7/witnesseswindow.html for Fact Witness details.

Mike Tate


Source Template V7

Yasmin Gibbins
 

Good Morning,
I am testing V7 and Rootsmagic I have a query around sources. In Rooysmagic I seem to be able to  set a master source as Birth Certificate and then add each persons certificate as a citation. On V7 it looks like each birth certificate is a source by itself.
I have been using Family Historian since the beginning but am still using V5. I do like most of the updates in V7 but still struggle with sources.
Any help and advice is very appreciated.
Yasmin


Re: "In Will" Fact

AlexH
 

Hi Chris,

I use Wills a lot. The way I handle them is to use the standard Will and Probate facts on the record for the testator. All the individuals named in the Will are recorded as Witnesses in the Will fact. Sometimes it is necessary to add an additional category of Witness to meet the circumstances, e.g. Named Person is a good catch all. If you then look at the record for the individuals named you will see that the information flows through from the Testator's record.

With a lot of trial and error I also managed to write a source template which has fields for name, place, date written, date proved, archive, archive reference etc. In the source text I record an abstract of the Will. The source and abstract also flow through to the individual records. I create one source per Will.

This method works for me but I'm sure there are many other good methods of dealing with Wills.

Hope this helps.

Sue


Re: "In Will" Fact

Lorna Craig
 

An alternative is to create a more general 'Alive at' fact.  This can be used when you have any kind of evidence that someone was still alive at a certain date, for example if they were a witness at a marriage, or if they were the informant who registered another person's death, or were mentioned in a newspaper article.   You can cite the will/ marriage certificate/ death certificate/ newspaper article as the source, and add any further explanation in the note field for the fact.

Sometimes I simply record that a person died "after" a certain date at which I know they were alive.

Lorna

On 21/07/2021 22:10, Chris Wake wrote:

Hi,

    I have several old wills from the 16th/17th century which have proved useful in discovering children and daughter’s married names. They also show if a spouse / child is still alive having previously only been identified by a baptism in a Parish Register many years ago. I am thinking of creating an “In Will” fact recording the testator and date of will for each person in each will to show they are alive at the date the will was written. Have other FH users used a different method to record this information bearing in mind that not all names mentioned in Wills at that time are Executors or beneficiaries.

Thanks

Chris

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"In Will" Fact

Chris Wake
 

Hi,

    I have several old wills from the 16th/17th century which have proved useful in discovering children and daughter’s married names. They also show if a spouse / child is still alive having previously only been identified by a baptism in a Parish Register many years ago. I am thinking of creating an “In Will” fact recording the testator and date of will for each person in each will to show they are alive at the date the will was written. Have other FH users used a different method to record this information bearing in mind that not all names mentioned in Wills at that time are Executors or beneficiaries.

Thanks

Chris


Re: Fast Add Menu

Karin Schuette Weiss
 

Mike -

Thank you VERY much for this last advice.  I will probably still print
and keep your instructions, but will think long and hard before attempting
to do it.  And may never bother.  It is, as I said, a really nice Fast Add Menu
as it is!

Karin Schuette Weiss

On 7/21/2021 11:48 AM, Mike Tate wrote:
Karin,
The first step of changing Name: 1850 Federal Census to Name: Census 1850 will probably NOT improve its order on the Fast Add Menu.
It will probably make it worse by moving it last. However, this Name change was something you asked to do.

Only editing the Item numbers in the Fact Set file will change the Fast Add menu order.

These are both quite advanced techniques that the average user would not usually need to attempt.
However, following my steps should work.

Mike Tate





Re: Fast Add Menu

Mike Tate
 

Karin,
The first step of changing Name: 1850 Federal Census to Name: Census 1850 will probably NOT improve its order on the Fast Add Menu.
It will probably make it worse by moving it last. However, this Name change was something you asked to do.

Only editing the Item numbers in the Fact Set file will change the Fast Add menu order.

These are both quite advanced techniques that the average user would not usually need to attempt.
However, following my steps should work.

Mike Tate


Re: Fast Add Menu

Karin Schuette Weiss
 

Mike - Thank you again for all your help.

Yes - I would like to change the Name: 1850 Federal Census to Name: Census 1850.
At this time that is the only Fact on my Fast Add Menu that is out of an order
that makes sense to me.


I have also read through your instructions for making that change and think
I have a good grasp of what you are saying.  Changing that one name would make
things perfect.  My plan going forward is to print your instructions and give it a
try one day soon.  If that works - and I expect it will - I will be happy with how
Fast Add sorts itself and should not need to try your second step.


A side note - all my census events are in the Custom Fact Set.  I did once read
through some stuff about Fact Sets and could not make sense of it. I'm thinking
I should give that a try again.  In other words - I understand nothing about Fact
Sets.  I came to FH from TMG and I have two conclusions - FH is an excellent, very
powerful program which I love but only grasp small parts of AND much of the
terminology is worlds different from what I had come to understand using TMG.
So it has been a slow, but very satisfying, learning curve.


Karin Schuette Weiss

On 7/20/2021 1:14 PM, Mike Tate wrote:
OK Karen, there are several issues involved there.

The Name: 'Census 1880' or '1850 Federal Census' defines the fundamental GEDCOM coding for those facts, which is why the Name field cannot be edited.
If you could change it then the GEDCOM codes would no longer be recognisable.

I presume you want to change the Name: '1850 Federal Census' to Name: 'Census 1850' is that correct?
You can define a new Name: 'Census 1850' event and use the Change Any Fact Tag plugin to change all '1850 Federal Census' events to 'Census 1850' events.
Then delete the redundant '1850 Federal Census' event definition and give the 'Census 1850' event definition the Label: '1850 Federal Census'.
Would that make all your Federal Census events consistent?

You should perform the above correction before adjusting the Fast Add Menu sort order below.

To alter the order of custom facts on the Fast Add Menu this is what you do, but with FH itself closed.
I assume all your Census events are in the 'Census' Fact Set. (If not then substitute its name in place of Census.fhf below.)

Use Windows File Explorer to locate C:\ProgramData\Calico Pie\Family Historian\Fact Types\Custom\Census.fhf
I suggest you copy that Census.fhf file to somewhere such as your Desktop, just in case things go awry, so it can be copied back.

Open the original Census.fhf file in a plain text editor such as Notepad. Do NOT use a word-processor.
At the top, it should look something like below where EVEN-CENSUS_1860, etc, represent the GEDCOM codes:
[.index]
Ver1=1
Ver2=0
Count=12
Item1=EVEN-CENSUS_1860-FE
Item2=EVEN-CENSUS_1870-FE
Item3=EVEN-CENSUS_1880-FE
Item4=EVEN-CENSUS_1900-FE
Item5=EVEN-CENSUS_1910-FE
etc.
All you need to do is edit those Item numbers so they define the required sorted order.
Finally, use File > Save to save the edited file.

Let me know how you get on.

Mike Tate






Re: Questions about Formatting a Book

Mike Tate
 

For genealogy research resources, see the FHUG KB https://fhug.org.uk/kb/.

Start at Links > Services & Utilities and then Research Resources will get you to:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/link-type/research-resources/

That should keep you busy for a while. 😊

Mike Tate

 


Re: Questions about Formatting a Book

stoddarm@...
 

Mike Tate,

  I like “lateral thinking”. We called them “work arounds” which suggests a weakness in the programming. Lateral thinking suggests the user needs to be flexible, which they\I do.

  I seen “99” in the documentation. I was going to use some lateral thinking on that one. I haven’t been with FH long enough to be able to tell the difference between 6 and 7. The advantage to that is I don’t have to unlearn v6 idiosyncracies.

  I am a proponent of ticketing systems so I guess I should follow my own advice. Ticket #387970 has been generated. I will check out the forums also. Part of my reluctance stems from assuming I am the problem and I need to keep looking for the button. FH is thorough, at least for the beginner. I have seen some of the high level discussions. My preferences are basic (my opinion), things I would expect an application to support so I must be the problem, right?

  I am doing my best to focus on the genealogy rather than the technical. I am doing fair. I am still finding new genealogy resources.

Mickey

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 6:36 AM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Questions about Formatting a Book

 

Mickey,

It is true that sometimes a degree of lateral thinking is required with the customisations to achieve a specific effect.

In previous versions of FH the Report > Options > Format tab ‘Hdg Level 2’ Keep With Next: 99 lines would force a new page but no longer.

FH v7 needs the Above Heading Gap: 999 pt trick to force a new page.

 

You are not alone with the problem of keeping Source Footnote text with the associated Media image.

One option is to report it to Calico Pie via their http://www.calico-pie.com/osticket/open.php Support Ticket system.

Alternatively, via the FHUGNew Wish List Requests’ Forum, the problem could be discussed and added to the Wish List.

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: Questions about Formatting a Book

Mike Tate
 

Mickey,

It is true that sometimes a degree of lateral thinking is required with the customisations to achieve a specific effect.

In previous versions of FH the Report > Options > Format tab ‘Hdg Level 2’ Keep With Next: 99 lines would force a new page but no longer.

FH v7 needs the Above Heading Gap: 999 pt trick to force a new page.

 

You are not alone with the problem of keeping Source Footnote text with the associated Media image.

One option is to report it to Calico Pie via their http://www.calico-pie.com/osticket/open.php Support Ticket system.

Alternatively, via the FHUGNew Wish List Requests’ Forum, the problem could be discussed and added to the Wish List.

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: Questions about Formatting a Book

stoddarm@...
 

Hi Mike,

  Thank you for the welcome.

  I tried FHUG forums and the knowledge base on multiple occasions knowing full well I was asking the wrong question or using the wrong terminology. More likely though I found the answer and didn’t realize it.

  Regarding starting sections on a new page, I’m not going to use the word never but it would have been a while before I figured that out. Wow, customizations, it didn’t take me long to get in over my head. I appreciate the advice. I would have messed that up too without it. I may have already. I get messages every so often that I don’t understand. I do some research but sometimes I end up flipping a coin and forging ahead.

  Yes, media images in the sources section. I have played with the picture height. I want one image per page so the source documents are legible. I get one fixed and another breaks. It first goes sideways on a 2nd media image associated with the same source which has no text associated with it. I have thought about making it a source in its own right then adding some filler, like several rows of spaces. That is a bandaid with no assurance the problem doesn’t crop up later in the report. I did notice a custom query option which I have tried to avoid. I know where that can lead me. I may end up living with the problem as I am probably the only one it will  bother. Thanks for letting me know though for I was surely headed down that rabbit hole.

  You have been a great help.

Mickey

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 3:43 PM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Questions about Formatting a Book

 

Welcome to the FH world Mickey.

First I should point out that there is also the FHUG online Forums and Knowledge Base at:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/index.php and https://fhug.org.uk/kb/

They are entirely free but offer alternative ways of getting advice that may be more convenient than Email.

 

I suggest that before working with Books that you customise the separate Reports first.

There is advice on that at https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/report-content-media-format-and-layout/

 

To get each Generation and the Source and Bibliography sections to start on a new page here is the trick.

Use the Report > Options > Format tab and select ‘Hdg Level 2’ which is the Generations, Sources & Bibliography heading level.

Click the Edit… button and change the Above Heading Gap to 999 pt and click OK and OK again. That is it.

 

I strongly suggest you save such customisations using the Save Report As > Custom Report Type option on the right.

Then the standard Report can retain its default installation settings to act as a reference when customisations don’t work as expected.

In the Book, you would use Other Report… to add the customised style of Narrative Report.

 

I imagine you are talking about Media images in the Sources section.

Unfortunately, I don’t think much can be done about keeping the footnote text on the same page as its image.

Sometimes small adjustments in Report > Options > Sources tab to Max. Picture Height can achieve success.

 

Hopefully that helps.

Mike Tate

 


Re: Questions about Formatting a Book

Mike Tate
 

Welcome to the FH world Mickey.

First I should point out that there is also the FHUG online Forums and Knowledge Base at:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/index.php and https://fhug.org.uk/kb/

They are entirely free but offer alternative ways of getting advice that may be more convenient than Email.

 

I suggest that before working with Books that you customise the separate Reports first.

There is advice on that at https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/report-content-media-format-and-layout/

 

To get each Generation and the Source and Bibliography sections to start on a new page here is the trick.

Use the Report > Options > Format tab and select ‘Hdg Level 2’ which is the Generations, Sources & Bibliography heading level.

Click the Edit… button and change the Above Heading Gap to 999 pt and click OK and OK again. That is it.

 

I strongly suggest you save such customisations using the Save Report As > Custom Report Type option on the right.

Then the standard Report can retain its default installation settings to act as a reference when customisations don’t work as expected.

In the Book, you would use Other Report… to add the customised style of Narrative Report.

 

I imagine you are talking about Media images in the Sources section.

Unfortunately, I don’t think much can be done about keeping the footnote text on the same page as its image.

Sometimes small adjustments in Report > Options > Sources tab to Max. Picture Height can achieve success.

 

Hopefully that helps.

Mike Tate

 


Re: Fast Add Menu

Mike Tate
 

OK Karen, there are several issues involved there.

The Name: 'Census 1880' or '1850 Federal Census' defines the fundamental GEDCOM coding for those facts, which is why the Name field cannot be edited.
If you could change it then the GEDCOM codes would no longer be recognisable.

I presume you want to change the Name: '1850 Federal Census' to Name: 'Census 1850' is that correct?
You can define a new Name: 'Census 1850' event and use the Change Any Fact Tag plugin to change all '1850 Federal Census' events to 'Census 1850' events.
Then delete the redundant '1850 Federal Census' event definition and give the 'Census 1850' event definition the Label: '1850 Federal Census'.
Would that make all your Federal Census events consistent?

You should perform the above correction before adjusting the Fast Add Menu sort order below.

To alter the order of custom facts on the Fast Add Menu this is what you do, but with FH itself closed.
I assume all your Census events are in the 'Census' Fact Set. (If not then substitute its name in place of Census.fhf below.)

Use Windows File Explorer to locate C:\ProgramData\Calico Pie\Family Historian\Fact Types\Custom\Census.fhf
I suggest you copy that Census.fhf file to somewhere such as your Desktop, just in case things go awry, so it can be copied back.

Open the original Census.fhf file in a plain text editor such as Notepad. Do NOT use a word-processor.
At the top, it should look something like below where EVEN-CENSUS_1860, etc, represent the GEDCOM codes:
[.index]
Ver1=1
Ver2=0
Count=12
Item1=EVEN-CENSUS_1860-FE
Item2=EVEN-CENSUS_1870-FE
Item3=EVEN-CENSUS_1880-FE
Item4=EVEN-CENSUS_1900-FE
Item5=EVEN-CENSUS_1910-FE
etc.
All you need to do is edit those Item numbers so they define the required sorted order.
Finally, use File > Save to save the edited file.

Let me know how you get on.

Mike Tate

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