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Re: Note formatting characters

Edward Sneithe
 

Mike,

Thanks for your response.

I've looked at where these characters originate and they come from two places. Formatted notes and citations or footnotes, etc..

In the short term (maybe long term) I can work around having formatted notes and I'm not sure if I have any control over the citations. I will need to keep my data in RM for the short term for compatibility with some other users but I will be moving data into FH using the GEDCOM interface so I can make use of the better features of FH. The control cods will not be a problem unless I am going to print something out and for those cases I can edit the GEDCOM file and eliminate those control characters before import into FH.

I think any plugins should be predicated on more than one user. I'm not sure why more people are not having this issue but for now I have a workaround.


Re: Project 'scare'

Mike Tate
 

It would be better to check the OneDrive cloud icon in the Notification area bottom right.

Wait until the blue circle vanishes, and hovering the cursor says: ‘OneDrive Up to date’.

Do that not just when closing a Project but before opening a Project after starting up a PC.

 


Re: Note formatting characters

Mike Tate
 

The codes <b> and </b> etc are correct, but need the Note converting to rich text, which cannot be done in FH itself.

It needs the _FMT 1 tag to be inserted after the NOTE tag in the GEDCOM.

I think a Plugin could do that but I’m too busy to write one just now.

It might be worth keeping the codes for the time being so they can be converted later when somebody else or I can find time to write the plugin.

 


Re: Note formatting characters

Edward Sneithe
 

Mike,

I looked for for what to change the <b> to to get the formatting but I could not find it. I tried an FH export with formatted text and it appears that the formatting is dropped so should I be looking to drop this formatting?


Re: Project 'scare'

Neil Grantham
 

I guess that's all it can be.

When closing the project, I always wait a good few minutes to ensure that it has synced before turning off.


At least the snapshot/backups are there to rescue me!


Best Wishes


Neil.





------ Original Message ------
From: "Mike Tate" <post@...>
To: family-historian@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 14 Jul, 2021 At 15:46
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Project 'scare'

Did you give OneDrive time to synchronise with the Cloud either on the other device yesterday before closing or this morning after opening device?

It sounds like the GEDCOM file had not finished synchronising and has been truncated, losing records including its trailer terminator.

Mike Tate


--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Re: Note formatting characters

Mike Tate
 

It should be possible to convert those codes to rich text formats using a Plugin.

 

Mike Tate


Re: Project 'scare'

Mike Tate
 

Did you give OneDrive time to synchronise with the Cloud either on the other device yesterday before closing or this morning after opening device?

It sounds like the GEDCOM file had not finished synchronising and has been truncated, losing records including its trailer terminator.

 

Mike Tate

 


Project 'scare'

Neil Grantham
 


I'm not sure what caused this, but it was a scary moment.


I opened FH7 this morning, after working on the project yesterday on another device - I use
OneDrive to share my project.


I got an error box to say ' A report has been generated detailing issues encountered while loading the file.

Clicked yes to view the file, which reads:

Family Historian Exception Report - Wednesday 14 Jul 2021

=========================================================


Lines marked "EXCLUDED:" indicate data which has not

been loaded, and explain why it wasn't loaded.


Indented lines marked "EXCLUDED BRANCH LINE:" indicate

data lines which are not necessarily invalid in

themselves but which have had to be excluded as a

consequence of excluding other lines.


Lines marked "INFO ONLY:" indicate data that has

been successfully loaded, but where special action

was needed to load it (e.g. GEDCOM errors detected

and automatically corrected by Family Historian).


---------------------------------------------------------

--- Missing trailer record.


---------------------------------------------------------

The numeric portion of Gedcom Ids have been retained as Record Ids. Use these to match entries to records.


There was an invitation to do further checks (Validation), which said there were no errors.

I then had absolutely nothing in my project!


Luckily, I was able to 'Restore from Snapshot' and don't seem to have lost anything.


All very odd though.

Interested to know if others have seen this or know the issue?


Best Wishes


Neil.


--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Note formatting characters

Edward Sneithe
 

I am exporting from Rootsmagic V7 to FamilyHistorian V7. Both allow some formatting of the note fields. The GEDCOM file from RM addresses the formatting by including the formatting codes as text. If I want to have a name in bold it will  export like this: <b>Henry Smith</b>. The same is true for italics and underline. FH on import does not interpret these formatting codes but includes them as text.

Is there anyway to have these codes interpreted or do I need to eliminate the formatting of test fields when it comes to export/import?


Re: My proposed import from Rootsmagic to FH

Edward Sneithe
 


Thank you. I knew it must be my fat fingers. Now it works correctly

Any thoughts on the color coding?

On Sunday, July 11, 2021, 2:06:03 PM EDT, Leslie P <leslie@...> wrote:


Looks like in your first step it didn't remove the line break between the given and surnames. 

Step one should look like this:



Step two should look like this 


Re: My proposed import from Rootsmagic to FH

Leslie P
 

Looks like in your first step it didn't remove the line break between the given and surnames. 

Step one should look like this:



Step two should look like this 


Re: My proposed import from Rootsmagic to FH

Edward Sneithe
 

Leslie.

I followed your instructions for the shared witness but I did not get the same results. My fat fingers are probably at work but the changed lines are:

2 _SHAN Ordinary
  Person
3 ROLE witness


I did not check any of the boxes for options except search from beginning

Start
2 _SHAR
3 GIVN Ordinary
3 SURN Person
3 ROLE witness

Step 1

2 _SHAR
3 GIVN Ordinary
 Person
3 ROLE witness

result
2 _SHAN Ordinary
 Person
3 ROLE witness

On Sunday, July 11, 2021, 12:02:00 PM EDT, Leslie P <leslie@...> wrote:


I have had exceedingly successful conversion from RM to FH, and I absolutely included the RM Details in my export.

FH only truly tosses out a very small amount of information, and it tells you about that in the log file. In my testing, the only thing actually thrown out was, as you indicate, fact witnesses that weren't in the database, and I was able to fix that in the GEDCOM and preserve that data.

The other UDF (uncategorized data fields) is still there. You can use the "Change Any Fact Tag" plugin to change that UDF into recognized data that you can then use as you wish. There are folks working on plugins to even try to import source templates, and maybe sentences, I'm not sure about that.

To preserve the witness info.
You need Notepad++ with the ToolBucket plugin to allow for multiline search and replace

Alt+Shift+F for multiline search and replace, run the following two replacements:

FIRST
search for: "(newline).3 SURN"
replace with: nothing

SECOND
search for: "2 _SHAR(newline)3 GIVN"
replace with "2 _SHAN"

What you get from RM, that FH doesn't import:
2 _SHAR 
3 GIVN Hannah  
3 SURN Green  

What you have after the Notepad++ changes, which FH will import
2 _SHAN Hannah Green  







Re: My proposed import from Rootsmagic to FH

Leslie P
 

I have had exceedingly successful conversion from RM to FH, and I absolutely included the RM Details in my export.

FH only truly tosses out a very small amount of information, and it tells you about that in the log file. In my testing, the only thing actually thrown out was, as you indicate, fact witnesses that weren't in the database, and I was able to fix that in the GEDCOM and preserve that data.

The other UDF (uncategorized data fields) is still there. You can use the "Change Any Fact Tag" plugin to change that UDF into recognized data that you can then use as you wish. There are folks working on plugins to even try to import source templates, and maybe sentences, I'm not sure about that.

To preserve the witness info.
You need Notepad++ with the ToolBucket plugin to allow for multiline search and replace

Alt+Shift+F for multiline search and replace, run the following two replacements:

FIRST
search for: "(newline).3 SURN"
replace with: nothing

SECOND
search for: "2 _SHAR(newline)3 GIVN"
replace with "2 _SHAN"

What you get from RM, that FH doesn't import:
2 _SHAR 
3 GIVN Hannah  
3 SURN Green  

What you have after the Notepad++ changes, which FH will import
2 _SHAN Hannah Green  







My proposed import from Rootsmagic to FH

Edward Sneithe
 

I have had FH for about 18 months. Until a fix to V7 there was an error in the narrative code that prevented me from converting to FH.

Now I have a slightly different issue. There are some that don’t want to leave Rootsmagic until v8 is completely resolved bringing it up to V7 in functionality and then decide.

In the meantime there are way too many features in FH to ignore so I was working on a scheme that would allow us to move projects from RM7 to FH7 with no loss of data and have come up with the following scheme.

We must be able to retain our customized facts and sentences. We have not created any custom sources. RM7 puts all this in the “extra details” when  exporting. When importing FH7 finds thousands of errors concerning all the data from the “extra details” so we have decided that they will not export cleanly and will not include them.

·       We must duplicate all facts and sentences in FH so FH can find the appropriate fact during the import.

·       We must convert all the {} to identify private notes in RM to [[ ]] that will signify private notes in FH. I have an editor with a macro for this.

·       We must convert all 1 EVEN descriptor to 1 FACT descriptor. FH 6 rejected these as errors whereas V7 now seem to accept them with  warnings. This also has a macro if that is wise.

·       I have tried this and it seems to work.

We must also do this with sources if that applies.

Color coding of people also runs into a problem because the color coding info is only contained in the “extras”. During the import saying the 1 _COLOR 1 line is rejected.

I have created a couple of new facts in RM and FH that will never be able to be printed so the  reports are ok. When creating a chart I can check for the presence of a particular fact and alter the chart as appropriate.

Shared people work if the shared person is in the project file but if it is text only RM puts out a _SHAR gedcom line which FH rejects. I will convert all of these people to people in the database but with the surname preceded by an * just to differentiate.

I will need to do more testing to see if any more issues arise but this seems to be a good start. Now does anyone have an opinion if this is a good idea or not and if there are any better alternatives.

I am not recomending this as a general practice but only that it seems to work for me.


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

John Hanson
 

Mine is due to renew on 2nd Aug so set a reminder to cancel end of this month and will then renew a few days later – fingers crossed!

Regards

John

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sue Herrington
Sent: 10 July 2021 17:29
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

 

Paul

 

It’s been working for the last 3-4 years at least. I have a Worldwide subscription for £89.99

 

Sue

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Paul Sillitoe
Sent: 10 July 2021 17:12
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

 

They'll soon be closing that loophole, then...

 

 

 

but not so smart as to usefully auto-correct the typos from my large fingers 🙂

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: John James <gladtobegrey@...>

Date: 10/07/2021 16:26 (GMT+00:00)

Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

 

Well, I can confirm the Ancestry Subscription link is still alive and working; I've just used it to renew my UK Premium membership for £59.99 instead of £119.99.

 

I cancelled my existing subscription a few days ago, waited until the original subscription end-date (8th July) had passed, then logged into the same account, clicked the discount link from another window. and hey presto!

And I don't seem to have lost any saved information (I cannot comment on whether family trees are retained, as I don't store/upload mine on Ancestry).

 

John

 

 


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Sue Herrington
 

Paul

 

It’s been working for the last 3-4 years at least. I have a Worldwide subscription for £89.99

 

Sue

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Paul Sillitoe
Sent: 10 July 2021 17:12
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

 

They'll soon be closing that loophole, then...

 

 

 

but not so smart as to usefully auto-correct the typos from my large fingers 🙂

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: John James <gladtobegrey@...>

Date: 10/07/2021 16:26 (GMT+00:00)

To: family-historian@groups.io

Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

 

Well, I can confirm the Ancestry Subscription link is still alive and working; I've just used it to renew my UK Premium membership for £59.99 instead of £119.99.

 

I cancelled my existing subscription a few days ago, waited until the original subscription end-date (8th July) had passed, then logged into the same account, clicked the discount link from another window. and hey presto!

And I don't seem to have lost any saved information (I cannot comment on whether family trees are retained, as I don't store/upload mine on Ancestry).

 

John

 

 


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

John Yale
 


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Sue Herrington
 

There's a link permanently posted in a couple of the Facebook groups to which I belong. I think it has been posted here in a previous thread, perhaps you can find it in the archives. 


On Sat, 10 Jul 2021, 17:58 , <Raywigz@...> wrote:
Where exactly is the Ancestry Subscription link?

Ray


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Raywigz@...
 

Where exactly is the Ancestry Subscription link?

Ray


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Paul Sillitoe
 

They'll soon be closing that loophole, then...



but not so smart as to usefully auto-correct the typos from my large fingers 🙂


-------- Original message --------
From: John James <gladtobegrey@...>
Date: 10/07/2021 16:26 (GMT+00:00)
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

Well, I can confirm the Ancestry Subscription link is still alive and working; I've just used it to renew my UK Premium membership for £59.99 instead of £119.99.

I cancelled my existing subscription a few days ago, waited until the original subscription end-date (8th July) had passed, then logged into the same account, clicked the discount link from another window. and hey presto!
And I don't seem to have lost any saved information (I cannot comment on whether family trees are retained, as I don't store/upload mine on Ancestry).

John

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