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Re: My proposed import from Rootsmagic to FH

Edward Sneithe
 


Thank you. I knew it must be my fat fingers. Now it works correctly

Any thoughts on the color coding?

On Sunday, July 11, 2021, 2:06:03 PM EDT, Leslie P <leslie@...> wrote:


Looks like in your first step it didn't remove the line break between the given and surnames. 

Step one should look like this:



Step two should look like this 


Re: My proposed import from Rootsmagic to FH

Leslie P
 

Looks like in your first step it didn't remove the line break between the given and surnames. 

Step one should look like this:



Step two should look like this 


Re: My proposed import from Rootsmagic to FH

Edward Sneithe
 

Leslie.

I followed your instructions for the shared witness but I did not get the same results. My fat fingers are probably at work but the changed lines are:

2 _SHAN Ordinary
  Person
3 ROLE witness


I did not check any of the boxes for options except search from beginning

Start
2 _SHAR
3 GIVN Ordinary
3 SURN Person
3 ROLE witness

Step 1

2 _SHAR
3 GIVN Ordinary
 Person
3 ROLE witness

result
2 _SHAN Ordinary
 Person
3 ROLE witness

On Sunday, July 11, 2021, 12:02:00 PM EDT, Leslie P <leslie@...> wrote:


I have had exceedingly successful conversion from RM to FH, and I absolutely included the RM Details in my export.

FH only truly tosses out a very small amount of information, and it tells you about that in the log file. In my testing, the only thing actually thrown out was, as you indicate, fact witnesses that weren't in the database, and I was able to fix that in the GEDCOM and preserve that data.

The other UDF (uncategorized data fields) is still there. You can use the "Change Any Fact Tag" plugin to change that UDF into recognized data that you can then use as you wish. There are folks working on plugins to even try to import source templates, and maybe sentences, I'm not sure about that.

To preserve the witness info.
You need Notepad++ with the ToolBucket plugin to allow for multiline search and replace

Alt+Shift+F for multiline search and replace, run the following two replacements:

FIRST
search for: "(newline).3 SURN"
replace with: nothing

SECOND
search for: "2 _SHAR(newline)3 GIVN"
replace with "2 _SHAN"

What you get from RM, that FH doesn't import:
2 _SHAR 
3 GIVN Hannah  
3 SURN Green  

What you have after the Notepad++ changes, which FH will import
2 _SHAN Hannah Green  







Re: My proposed import from Rootsmagic to FH

Leslie P
 

I have had exceedingly successful conversion from RM to FH, and I absolutely included the RM Details in my export.

FH only truly tosses out a very small amount of information, and it tells you about that in the log file. In my testing, the only thing actually thrown out was, as you indicate, fact witnesses that weren't in the database, and I was able to fix that in the GEDCOM and preserve that data.

The other UDF (uncategorized data fields) is still there. You can use the "Change Any Fact Tag" plugin to change that UDF into recognized data that you can then use as you wish. There are folks working on plugins to even try to import source templates, and maybe sentences, I'm not sure about that.

To preserve the witness info.
You need Notepad++ with the ToolBucket plugin to allow for multiline search and replace

Alt+Shift+F for multiline search and replace, run the following two replacements:

FIRST
search for: "(newline).3 SURN"
replace with: nothing

SECOND
search for: "2 _SHAR(newline)3 GIVN"
replace with "2 _SHAN"

What you get from RM, that FH doesn't import:
2 _SHAR 
3 GIVN Hannah  
3 SURN Green  

What you have after the Notepad++ changes, which FH will import
2 _SHAN Hannah Green  







My proposed import from Rootsmagic to FH

Edward Sneithe
 

I have had FH for about 18 months. Until a fix to V7 there was an error in the narrative code that prevented me from converting to FH.

Now I have a slightly different issue. There are some that don’t want to leave Rootsmagic until v8 is completely resolved bringing it up to V7 in functionality and then decide.

In the meantime there are way too many features in FH to ignore so I was working on a scheme that would allow us to move projects from RM7 to FH7 with no loss of data and have come up with the following scheme.

We must be able to retain our customized facts and sentences. We have not created any custom sources. RM7 puts all this in the “extra details” when  exporting. When importing FH7 finds thousands of errors concerning all the data from the “extra details” so we have decided that they will not export cleanly and will not include them.

·       We must duplicate all facts and sentences in FH so FH can find the appropriate fact during the import.

·       We must convert all the {} to identify private notes in RM to [[ ]] that will signify private notes in FH. I have an editor with a macro for this.

·       We must convert all 1 EVEN descriptor to 1 FACT descriptor. FH 6 rejected these as errors whereas V7 now seem to accept them with  warnings. This also has a macro if that is wise.

·       I have tried this and it seems to work.

We must also do this with sources if that applies.

Color coding of people also runs into a problem because the color coding info is only contained in the “extras”. During the import saying the 1 _COLOR 1 line is rejected.

I have created a couple of new facts in RM and FH that will never be able to be printed so the  reports are ok. When creating a chart I can check for the presence of a particular fact and alter the chart as appropriate.

Shared people work if the shared person is in the project file but if it is text only RM puts out a _SHAR gedcom line which FH rejects. I will convert all of these people to people in the database but with the surname preceded by an * just to differentiate.

I will need to do more testing to see if any more issues arise but this seems to be a good start. Now does anyone have an opinion if this is a good idea or not and if there are any better alternatives.

I am not recomending this as a general practice but only that it seems to work for me.


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John Hanson
 

Mine is due to renew on 2nd Aug so set a reminder to cancel end of this month and will then renew a few days later – fingers crossed!

Regards

John

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sue Herrington
Sent: 10 July 2021 17:29
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

 

Paul

 

It’s been working for the last 3-4 years at least. I have a Worldwide subscription for £89.99

 

Sue

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Paul Sillitoe
Sent: 10 July 2021 17:12
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

 

They'll soon be closing that loophole, then...

 

 

 

but not so smart as to usefully auto-correct the typos from my large fingers 🙂

 

 

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From: John James <gladtobegrey@...>

Date: 10/07/2021 16:26 (GMT+00:00)

Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

 

Well, I can confirm the Ancestry Subscription link is still alive and working; I've just used it to renew my UK Premium membership for £59.99 instead of £119.99.

 

I cancelled my existing subscription a few days ago, waited until the original subscription end-date (8th July) had passed, then logged into the same account, clicked the discount link from another window. and hey presto!

And I don't seem to have lost any saved information (I cannot comment on whether family trees are retained, as I don't store/upload mine on Ancestry).

 

John

 

 


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Sue Herrington
 

Paul

 

It’s been working for the last 3-4 years at least. I have a Worldwide subscription for £89.99

 

Sue

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Paul Sillitoe
Sent: 10 July 2021 17:12
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

 

They'll soon be closing that loophole, then...

 

 

 

but not so smart as to usefully auto-correct the typos from my large fingers 🙂

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: John James <gladtobegrey@...>

Date: 10/07/2021 16:26 (GMT+00:00)

To: family-historian@groups.io

Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

 

Well, I can confirm the Ancestry Subscription link is still alive and working; I've just used it to renew my UK Premium membership for £59.99 instead of £119.99.

 

I cancelled my existing subscription a few days ago, waited until the original subscription end-date (8th July) had passed, then logged into the same account, clicked the discount link from another window. and hey presto!

And I don't seem to have lost any saved information (I cannot comment on whether family trees are retained, as I don't store/upload mine on Ancestry).

 

John

 

 


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John Yale
 


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Sue Herrington
 

There's a link permanently posted in a couple of the Facebook groups to which I belong. I think it has been posted here in a previous thread, perhaps you can find it in the archives. 


On Sat, 10 Jul 2021, 17:58 , <Raywigz@...> wrote:
Where exactly is the Ancestry Subscription link?

Ray


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Raywigz@...
 

Where exactly is the Ancestry Subscription link?

Ray


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Paul Sillitoe
 

They'll soon be closing that loophole, then...



but not so smart as to usefully auto-correct the typos from my large fingers 🙂


-------- Original message --------
From: John James <gladtobegrey@...>
Date: 10/07/2021 16:26 (GMT+00:00)
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

Well, I can confirm the Ancestry Subscription link is still alive and working; I've just used it to renew my UK Premium membership for £59.99 instead of £119.99.

I cancelled my existing subscription a few days ago, waited until the original subscription end-date (8th July) had passed, then logged into the same account, clicked the discount link from another window. and hey presto!
And I don't seem to have lost any saved information (I cannot comment on whether family trees are retained, as I don't store/upload mine on Ancestry).

John


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

John James
 

Well, I can confirm the Ancestry Subscription link is still alive and working; I've just used it to renew my UK Premium membership for £59.99 instead of £119.99.

I cancelled my existing subscription a few days ago, waited until the original subscription end-date (8th July) had passed, then logged into the same account, clicked the discount link from another window. and hey presto!
And I don't seem to have lost any saved information (I cannot comment on whether family trees are retained, as I don't store/upload mine on Ancestry).

John


Re: Generating Zip files

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

Mike, I was thinking it would only be possible as a post-website creation step, maybe as an option under Export... in the Websites & Family Tree CD/DVDs dialog.


Re: Generating Zip files

Mike Tate
 

On reflection, perhaps the ‘Export…’ button could offer a ZIP option when copying to another location.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 06 July 2021 13:29
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Generating Zip files

 

Presumably, at present, you are using the Windows File Explorer right-click command ‘Send to > Compressed (zipped) folder’

If FH created the ZIP file, I wonder how the ‘Do you wish to view it now?’ and the ‘Preview’ button would work as your default browser may not handle the zipped CSS & HTML files, etc.

 


Re: Generating Zip files

Mike Tate
 

Presumably, at present, you are using the Windows File Explorer right-click command ‘Send to > Compressed (zipped) folder’

If FH created the ZIP file, I wonder how the ‘Do you wish to view it now?’ and the ‘Preview’ button would work as your default browser may not handle the zipped CSS & HTML files, etc.

 


Re: Generating Zip files

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

OK -- there's no support for doing that currently. Which FTP programme are you using? -- Filezilla (for example) doesn't require a zip file. Is the requirement actually dictated by your server rather than the PTP programme you're using?

If you want to raise a Wish List item you'll need to do it via the FHUG forum (New Wish List Requests).


Re: Generating Zip files

Michael Williamson
 

Maybe I wasn't clear. I was referring to the facility to create a web-site under the Publish tab. It would make life just that bit easier if there was an option to create a ZIP file of the website that could then be uploaded to the server.


Re: Generating Zip files

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

Try File > Backup; the Backup format is a zip file.


Generating Zip files

Michael Williamson
 

Many FTP programs prefer files to be uploaded in a Zip archive. Although, obviously, the user can create one, it would be really good if there was an option to create one directly from FH.


Re: Anomalous ages appearing after birth date

John Ball
 

Thank you Lorna; thank you Mike.

Of course! What a plonker I am!

I must say, I've been using FH since its first version way back when, and I must have seen this happen over and over again - whenever I've entered the birth-dates of new individuals before entering their death dates - and I've never queried it before.

Must be a sign of old age!

Thanks again,

John

PS I've unticked "Ages" in the Customize View menu, as you suggest Lorna. Thanks for that, too.


On 04/07/2021 12:34, colevalleygirl@... wrote:
FH is displaying a calculated current age based on their birth date (just as it displays a calculated date for every other event in their life (where an explicit date isn't provided) if you to to the Facts tab in their Property  Box). 

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