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Re: Unlinked Projects

Mike Tate
 

But you may have to wait some time between postings here as the admins must manually approve the attached images.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of colevalleygirl@...
Sent: 31 May 2021 10:51
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Unlinked Projects

 

James, you can post screenshots here if you’d rather keep the conversation in one place.

 


Re: Unlinked Projects

Mike Tate
 

Since I have no idea what you have moved, and I suspect you don’t really know either, then screenshots in the FHUG Forum would be easier to manage.

We need to see not just what is in your Family Historian Projects folder and all its sub-folders, but also the locations that you moved those folders to earlier.

That may require several postings as only 3 screenshots are allowed per posting.

Don’t collect them into say a Word Doc as that makes the screenshots too small to read clearly and the Word Doc too large to attach to the forum.

Did you review the FHUG Knowledge Base ‘Understanding Projects’ that shows the structure of the Family Historian Sample Project?

Mike

 


Re: Unlinked Projects

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

James, you can post screenshots here if you’d rather keep the conversation in one place.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of James Pam
Sent: 31 May 2021 10:46
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Unlinked Projects

 

Not sure I have resolved the problem. The project window now shows my project and the sample project but they appear to be gedcoms with the name of my project with the gedcom triangular sign at the start of the name. I can get into my project but 'current project' at the top says 'none'.

I don't think I have resolved this problem yet. Would it help if I started a thread on the fh user group forum and posted screen shots of my file structure?

Alternatively I do have backup zip files but  would need a step by step instruction as I am very anxious at making a bad situation worse.

 

 

 

James 

 

 


Re: How do I add a donor conceived child?

Mike Tate
 

Sorry, I meant to reply to Chris.

There are too many postings this morning!

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jenny Cochrane via groups.io
Sent: 31 May 2021 10:43
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] How do I add a donor conceived child?

 

It's actually Chris who has the donor father, but thanks for the info re diagrams. It's not a situation I've ever tackled. I'm always pleasantly surprised by the versatility of FH.

 

Jenny

 


Re: Unlinked Projects

James Pam
 

Not sure I have resolved the problem. The project window now shows my project and the sample project but they appear to be gedcoms with the name of my project with the gedcom triangular sign at the start of the name. I can get into my project but 'current project' at the top says 'none'.
I don't think I have resolved this problem yet. Would it help if I started a thread on the fh user group forum and posted screen shots of my file structure?
Alternatively I do have backup zip files but  would need a step by step instruction as I am very anxious at making a bad situation worse.



James 




Re: "Citation Specific Details" Box

Mike Tate
 

Miriam,

I suggest you try Bill’s layout with both the yellow Source Citation windows floating outside the main FH window on the right.

Your screenshot shows that you have not yet adopted that layout as per his instructions.

See https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=19000#p113270

That allows the full height of the screen to be used for those two floating windows without hiding any toolbars, etc.

As you can see from Bill’s screenshot, his layout shows a lot more than you need.

 

With that arrangement, as soon as you select a fact, the first Source Citation listed will display all its details.

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: How do I add a donor conceived child?

Jenny Cochrane
 

It's actually Chris who has the donor father, but thanks for the info re diagrams. It's not a situation I've ever tackled. I'm always pleasantly surprised by the versatility of FH.

Jenny

On Monday, 31 May 2021, 10:30:14 BST, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:


Jenny,

You need to use some of the less well-known features of Diagrams to display multiple parents.

By default Diagrams only display the first set of parents regardless of whether they are biological or not.

Usually, the first set of parents are the biological parents but in your case they are not.

 

One option is to change the order of the Spouse tabs so that whichever parents you want in the Diagram are shown first.

After saving the Diagram as a PDF you can swap those Spouse tabs back by using Edit > Undo.

 

Another option is in the Diagram to use Diagram > Insert Into Diagram and choose a suitable tree to insert additional parents.

e.g. Select yourself as an Ancestor Tree root and FH will ask which parents to display.

After tidying the layout, save the Diagram as an FH Chart to preserve the multiple trees, otherwise you must start from scratch each time.

 

If you initially choose yourself as the root of the initial Diagram then FH will ask which parents you want to display.

 

Similar options exist for your siblings.

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: How do I add a donor conceived child?

Mike Tate
 

Jenny,

You need to use some of the less well-known features of Diagrams to display multiple parents.

By default Diagrams only display the first set of parents regardless of whether they are biological or not.

Usually, the first set of parents are the biological parents but in your case they are not.

 

One option is to change the order of the Spouse tabs so that whichever parents you want in the Diagram are shown first.

After saving the Diagram as a PDF you can swap those Spouse tabs back by using Edit > Undo.

 

Another option is in the Diagram to use Diagram > Insert Into Diagram and choose a suitable tree to insert additional parents.

e.g. Select yourself as an Ancestor Tree root and FH will ask which parents to display.

After tidying the layout, save the Diagram as an FH Chart to preserve the multiple trees, otherwise you must start from scratch each time.

 

If you initially choose yourself as the root of the initial Diagram then FH will ask which parents you want to display.

 

Similar options exist for your siblings.

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: "Citation Specific Details" Box

Mike Tate
 

Regarding keeping the Source Citation windows (and any other windows) open from FH session to session see the FHUG Wish List.

That has a request for such a feature that if you sign-in to FHUG you can Vote for:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wishlist/wldisplay.php?wlwlref=534

Ref 534 Preserve all Workspace and Window Characteristics

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: Unlinked Projects

James Pam
 

Thank you Mike. I now have my project back. Lesson learnt!! I had moved the sample project out of the FH project folder but moving it back solved that problem.

James 




Re: "Citation Specific Details" Box

Miriam Smith
 

First - many thanks to BillH for his instructions as they were brilliant.  Mike - I have got the "Source Citations" box with the info that i want it to contain but i can't make it small enough to fit in the blank space without losing the important info that i like to see. I don't like it floating as it just gets in the way of the main data.  There is info there i don't really want to see - such as the Source Record ID and how many times it has been used, and also the bit that is grayed out at the bottom.  I know the one which i have screendumped only has 1 citation, but I have some facts which have half a dozen.  Previously it was a doddle to ensure that the most important source was at the top of the list and that was easy to see when clicking through the list.  In the meantime, I've moved it across to that space area and closed it, so that i only have to double click it to open it, but then I still have to close it afterwards as it gets in the way.  Many thanks for the help, Miriam


Re: How do I add a donor conceived child?

Jenny Cochrane
 

Wow, must have been a shock but I'm sure it's more common than you think!

In terms of mapping your family, this is my suggestion. It's not very elegant, but I reckon it works. Might be worth putting in a request to Calico Pie to see if a "donor" flag can be added.

You can have as many sets of parents as you like in FH. Just click on the "parent" icon in the property box and then "add set". So I would add your biological father as an extra parent and link your mother as a "spouse". She will still be the spouse of your de facto father and the donor will appear as an extra spouse,  with an "unmarried" flag and explanatory note.

Then you can add your 1/2 and donor siblings as children of your bio father each with their mother as his "spouse" with appropriate flags. They should then all show up in your tree and your children should be appropriately linked.

Hope that works or somebody can come up with a neater option.

Jenny

On Monday, 31 May 2021, 06:52:57 BST, Noslien90@... <noslien90@...> wrote:


Hi all - So, a week ago as part of starting my family tree  I learned I was donor conceived, at the ripe old age of 31. Bit of a shock to the system, but the positive is I have even more family to map out. 

Would anyone be able to assist with how this should be entered into FH? I can’t find any help sections on it, and I guess it’s something that probably doesn’t come up much.

I have added my biological father as an ‘unrelated person’ and then added me as a son and changed our relationship to ‘birth’ which seems to work. I’m not quite sure though how to the enter my four other donor conceived half siblings, as well as my biological dads four daughters. The other issue is, when I map the family tree out for my daughter or son, it only shows my mother and defacto father’s tree above them, not the donors family (which is their biological family).

Any help would be greatly appreciated! 

Chris 


How do I add a donor conceived child?

Noslien90@...
 

Hi all - So, a week ago as part of starting my family tree  I learned I was donor conceived, at the ripe old age of 31. Bit of a shock to the system, but the positive is I have even more family to map out. 

Would anyone be able to assist with how this should be entered into FH? I can’t find any help sections on it, and I guess it’s something that probably doesn’t come up much.

I have added my biological father as an ‘unrelated person’ and then added me as a son and changed our relationship to ‘birth’ which seems to work. I’m not quite sure though how to the enter my four other donor conceived half siblings, as well as my biological dads four daughters. The other issue is, when I map the family tree out for my daughter or son, it only shows my mother and defacto father’s tree above them, not the donors family (which is their biological family).

Any help would be greatly appreciated! 

Chris 


Re: "Citation Specific Details" Box

BillH
 

Debbie,

No.  When opening Family Historian it isn't open until I select a field that does have a citation.  What I do is click on the field and then click on the yellow scroll icon in the property box.  This opens the citation list pane.  I then select a citation and click on the icon with the yellow scroll and pencil at the bottom of the citation list pane which opens the citation window.  Sometimes one or both will disappear when I do different things in FH, but I can always get them back by doing one of both of these things.  I just like this layout rather than having the citation window floating over the focus window or property box which obscures too much for my taste.

Bill

On May 30 2021, at 03:35 PM Debbie Kennett wrote:

Thanks Bill. That’s worked nicely. Have you found a way to keep the source box permanently open rather than having to click on it every time you start work?

 

Debbie

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of BillH
Sent: 30 May 2021 21:58
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] "Citation Specific Details" Box

 

Debbie,

In Preferences select Property Box and half way down is "Preferred Position for Citation List Pane".  Set those options to "Open in New Window".

The Citation List Pane is the actual name of the Sources for window.

Bill

On May 30 2021, at 10:12 AM Debbie Kennett wrote:

Bill

 

I like the look of your layout.

 

How did you manage to get “Sources for…” box to be a floating window?

 

Debbie



Re: "Citation Specific Details" Box

Debbie Kennett
 

Thanks Bill. That’s worked nicely. Have you found a way to keep the source box permanently open rather than having to click on it every time you start work?

 

Debbie

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of BillH
Sent: 30 May 2021 21:58
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] "Citation Specific Details" Box

 

Debbie,

In Preferences select Property Box and half way down is "Preferred Position for Citation List Pane".  Set those options to "Open in New Window".

The Citation List Pane is the actual name of the Sources for window.

Bill

On May 30 2021, at 10:12 AM Debbie Kennett wrote:

Bill

 

I like the look of your layout.

 

How did you manage to get “Sources for…” box to be a floating window?

 

Debbie


Re: Unlinked Projects

Mike Tate
 

James,

What worries me is you say you “moved some fh folders to a different location”.

If you have not moved them all together then it may not be possible to get FH to see your Projects at all.

In that case, you will have to move those some fh folders back where they came from or recover from your backups.

 

Yes, you click blue 'my documents/family historian projects' link and select ‘Choose Location’.

You must choose the ‘Family Historian Projects’ folder in its new location wherever you moved it to.

That folder must contain the ‘Pam family’ folder and that must contain the 'Pam family.fh_proj’ file and ‘Pam family.fh_data’ folder, which must hold the ‘Pam family.ged’ file and various folders including ‘Media’.

 

If any of those files and folders are not correctly organised then FH will not recognise your ‘Pam family’ project.

There is an example of the structure in the FHUG Knowledge Base in Understanding Projects.

 

Let this be a warning. Do NOT reorganise the ‘Family Historian Projects’ folder structure.

 

Mike Tate


Re: "Citation Specific Details" Box

BillH
 

Debbie,

In Preferences select Property Box and half way down is "Preferred Position for Citation List Pane".  Set those options to "Open in New Window".

The Citation List Pane is the actual name of the Sources for window.

Bill

On May 30 2021, at 10:12 AM Debbie Kennett wrote:

Bill

 

I like the look of your layout.

 

How did you manage to get “Sources for…” box to be a floating window?

 

Debbie

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of BillH
Sent: 30 May 2021 17:23
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] "Citation Specific Details" Box

 

If you look at this post on the FHUG forum, you can see what I did to make it look more like it did in FH 6.  This may work for you.  If you scroll down in the forum post you will see a screen shot of my layout.

https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=19000

Bill

On May 30 2021, at 12:20 AM Mim Smith wrote:

In the previous version of FH, the "Citation Box" on the right side of the property box was made up of two parts.  By clicking once on one of the sources I had used for a fact, I could see other details immediately - such as 'assessment' and 'text from source'.  So if the source was a particular parish register that i had a copy of the page, i would make it a primary assessment and note that i actually had a copy of it.  Or if a census, I would record that as secondary with the census reference number.  However, now i have to double click to open the source, and then click on another tab to see it as there is now only one very long "Citation Box" and I have not been able to work out how to make it show these details easily.  To have to double click and then further click to view data that was previously showing is not really working for me.  How can I force those details to show as on the previous version of FH?  Sorry, but I think I've searched everywhere for this issue, but couldn't find an answer.  Thanks.

 



Unlinked Projects

James Pam
 

Stupidly I reorganised my files and moved some fh folders to a different location. Not surprisingly there are are now no projects showing in the Project window.
I have FH7.  Please advise the best way of restoring my projects.
I think I need to click the blue 'my documents/family historian projects'. It then asks me whether I want to 'Choose location' or 'Reset location to installation.
default.'  Do I choose one of these? Is that the route back to sanity?
What files do I need to select? Is it just the gedcom file? If so is it 'Pam family.fh_proj or Pam family.fh_data which has a number of folders and a gedcom - Pam family.ged
I backup my projects to Onedrive and to my computer hard drive. Where should I be pointing my project window too?
Thank you in anticipation.


Re: "Citation Specific Details" Box

Debbie Kennett
 

Bill

 

I like the look of your layout.

 

How did you manage to get “Sources for…” box to be a floating window?

 

Debbie

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of BillH
Sent: 30 May 2021 17:23
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] "Citation Specific Details" Box

 

If you look at this post on the FHUG forum, you can see what I did to make it look more like it did in FH 6.  This may work for you.  If you scroll down in the forum post you will see a screen shot of my layout.

https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=19000

Bill

On May 30 2021, at 12:20 AM Mim Smith wrote:

In the previous version of FH, the "Citation Box" on the right side of the property box was made up of two parts.  By clicking once on one of the sources I had used for a fact, I could see other details immediately - such as 'assessment' and 'text from source'.  So if the source was a particular parish register that i had a copy of the page, i would make it a primary assessment and note that i actually had a copy of it.  Or if a census, I would record that as secondary with the census reference number.  However, now i have to double click to open the source, and then click on another tab to see it as there is now only one very long "Citation Box" and I have not been able to work out how to make it show these details easily.  To have to double click and then further click to view data that was previously showing is not really working for me.  How can I force those details to show as on the previous version of FH?  Sorry, but I think I've searched everywhere for this issue, but couldn't find an answer.  Thanks.

 


Re: "Citation Specific Details" Box

BillH
 

If you look at this post on the FHUG forum, you can see what I did to make it look more like it did in FH 6.  This may work for you.  If you scroll down in the forum post you will see a screen shot of my layout.

https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=19000

Bill

On May 30 2021, at 12:20 AM Mim Smith wrote:

In the previous version of FH, the "Citation Box" on the right side of the property box was made up of two parts.  By clicking once on one of the sources I had used for a fact, I could see other details immediately - such as 'assessment' and 'text from source'.  So if the source was a particular parish register that i had a copy of the page, i would make it a primary assessment and note that i actually had a copy of it.  Or if a census, I would record that as secondary with the census reference number.  However, now i have to double click to open the source, and then click on another tab to see it as there is now only one very long "Citation Box" and I have not been able to work out how to make it show these details easily.  To have to double click and then further click to view data that was previously showing is not really working for me.  How can I force those details to show as on the previous version of FH?  Sorry, but I think I've searched everywhere for this issue, but couldn't find an answer.  Thanks.

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