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Re: How do I see the full citation

Santa Traugott
 

Thanks for your reply, Mike.

If I understand you correctly, the Source template won’t produce footnotes, or bibliographic information with more than the source title, unless I follow one of the two options you provided.  Or, return to generic sourcing.

What I still don’t understand is, why is information like URL and repository entered into the Source Template at all, if it’s not to be used to generate a full citation for published reports, but instead has to be copied or re-entered into the text field?  It just seems like it must be used somehow.  


Re: Date Checker

Sue Langabeer
 

Many thanks for that Mike

On 24 May 2021 at 10:26 Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Bill is in USA and fast asleep just now.

Published Plugins are in the FH online Plugin Store.

Use Tools > Plugins… and click the Plugin Store… button.

See the FHUG Knowledge Base ‘Family Historian Plugins’ for details:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/family-historian-plugins/

 

Mike Tate

 


 


 


Re: Date Checker

Mike Tate
 

Yes, but on this open forum the questions and answers go to everyone.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of waltonnz
Sent: 24 May 2021 11:50
To: Family Historian <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Date Checker

 

Actually Mike, I think you may have been trying to answer Sue Langabeer who was wanting to find the same plugin.

Patricia

 

On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 21:26, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Bill is in USA and fast asleep just now.

Published Plugins are in the FH online Plugin Store.

Use Tools > Plugins… and click the Plugin Store… button.

See the FHUG Knowledge Base ‘Family Historian Plugins’ for details:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/family-historian-plugins/

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: Date Checker

waltonnz
 

Actually Mike, I think you may have been trying to answer Sue Langabeer who was wanting to find the same plugin.
Patricia

On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 21:26, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Bill is in USA and fast asleep just now.

Published Plugins are in the FH online Plugin Store.

Use Tools > Plugins… and click the Plugin Store… button.

See the FHUG Knowledge Base ‘Family Historian Plugins’ for details:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/family-historian-plugins/

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: Date Checker

waltonnz
 

Thank you Mike. I'm in NZ and just heading off for my bed. I did know how to download the plugins, just not if there was one available for what I needed. The one Bill recommended found many errors in my very large database. The query, as recommended by you has also found many discrepancies. I'm grateful to you both for your help.
Patricia

On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 21:26, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Bill is in USA and fast asleep just now.

Published Plugins are in the FH online Plugin Store.

Use Tools > Plugins… and click the Plugin Store… button.

See the FHUG Knowledge Base ‘Family Historian Plugins’ for details:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/family-historian-plugins/

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: Date Checker

waltonnz
 

Thank you Mike, that's very handy to know.
Patricia

On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 21:01, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Specifically aimed at dates, there is the standard Query ‘Fact Date Warnings’.

 


Re: Date Checker

Mike Tate
 

Bill is in USA and fast asleep just now.

Published Plugins are in the FH online Plugin Store.

Use Tools > Plugins… and click the Plugin Store… button.

See the FHUG Knowledge Base ‘Family Historian Plugins’ for details:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/family-historian-plugins/

 

Mike Tate

 


Date Checker

Sue Langabeer
 

Hello Bill,  I am really new to this - where would I find this plug in - I have Family Historian 7  -  sorry to bother you

On 23 May 2021 at 23:01 BillH <bhtemp99@...> wrote:

Patricia,

The plugin Show Project Statistics will show you statistics about your project as well as detect and report all types of errors.

Bill

On May 23 2021, at 02:43 PM waltonnz wrote:

Is there such a thing as a plugin that will detect incorrect dates? For example I've just found an individual on my database with a birth date of 1922 and a death date of 1022, obviously a typo error on my part. There are probably others and I'd like to detect them if possible.
Patricia


 


 


Re: Date Checker

Mike Tate
 

Specifically aimed at dates, there is the standard Query ‘Fact Date Warnings’.

 


Re: Date Checker

waltonnz
 

Thank you, I have found and installed it - just what I needed.
Patricia

On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 10:01, BillH <bhtemp99@...> wrote:
Patricia,

The plugin Show Project Statistics will show you statistics about your project as well as detect and report all types of errors.

Bill

On May 23 2021, at 02:43 PM waltonnz wrote:

Is there such a thing as a plugin that will detect incorrect dates? For example I've just found an individual on my database with a birth date of 1922 and a death date of 1022, obviously a typo error on my part. There are probably others and I'd like to detect them if possible.
Patricia


Re: Date Checker

BillH
 

Patricia,

The plugin Show Project Statistics will show you statistics about your project as well as detect and report all types of errors.

Bill

On May 23 2021, at 02:43 PM waltonnz wrote:

Is there such a thing as a plugin that will detect incorrect dates? For example I've just found an individual on my database with a birth date of 1922 and a death date of 1022, obviously a typo error on my part. There are probably others and I'd like to detect them if possible.
Patricia


Date Checker

waltonnz
 

Is there such a thing as a plugin that will detect incorrect dates? For example I've just found an individual on my database with a birth date of 1922 and a death date of 1022, obviously a typo error on my part. There are probably others and I'd like to detect them if possible.
Patricia


Re: How do I see the full citation

Mike Tate
 

That is the way it works with templated Sources.

There are two ways to add more information to the Sources section of Reports.

  1. Change the Footnote Format template in the Source Template definition to include more Fields.
  2. Add information to the Text from Source, Notes or Media tabs of the Source Citation and enable those in the Report > Options > Sources tab.

 

 


How do I see the full citation

Santa Traugott
 

I am just learning to use templated citations in v7 (Essential rather than Advanced.)   Using the source pane, I just prepared a citation for a birth certificate from Cook County, ILL.  I started off by selecting "Civil Certificate" from the Create Source from Template option.  

I filled in all the fields, including Certificate number, collection identification  [ Illinois, Cook County, Birth Certificates, 1871-1949], URL.  But the only thing that appears when I publish a report to see what it looks like, is "Birth Certificate of James Wilson Smith, August 27, 1912."  This is the text for both the footnote and the bibliography page.  I went into the Report Options box, tab for sources, and  Whole Citation is checked.  

I  am missing something elementary, I know, but how do I see the full source citation?  Or is the "Birth Certificate of James Wilson Smith, August 27, 1912" the citation (although the certificate number is missing) , and I need to be asking how to publish the full source?


Re: Estimated Date in Range

Brian Horridge
 

That's not going to help much as the particular school was a Church of England school (not local authority) and, even though there were specifics term, a lot of the pupils left when they were 13 or 14 to get jobs (this was in the 1920s to 1940s).

Brian


On 20/05/2021 16:40, Robert via groups.io wrote:

Brian,

You could go to gov.co.uk for 

School term and holiday dates

so if you know the year then that will give you the date at end of term.




On Thursday, May 20, 2021, 16:22, Brian Horridge via groups.io <brian.horridge@...> wrote:

Mike

I did try the Date Entry Assistant but was not sure if "est" was not supported or if it was and I had simply missed the relevant setting in the different tabs.  At least now I know I had not overlooked it.

I wanted an estimated date as I knew roughly when they left the school but not the exact date.  I've just put in the year now.

Thanks

Brian


On 20/05/2021 11:46, Mike Tate wrote:

Brian,

You can always determine what is valid by using the Date Entry Assistant.

i.e. Click on the […] button to the right of any Date field.

There you will discover that a Qualifier such as Estimated can only be applied to a simple Date and not Period or Range dates.

 

The fact that the first date is exact and the second date is just a year suggests it must be uncertain.

Any further clarification would need to go in the Source Citation or Notes.

 

Mike Tate

 


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Re: Estimated Date in Range

Mike Tate
 

Victor,

As I said in an earlier reply, no Qualifiers are allowed in Period or Range dates.

So that excludes Approx as well as Estimated and Calculated.

 


Re: Estimated Date in Range

Victor Markham
 

Instead of using est use app meaning approx it will become c. Let's say 1900 app this will automatically become c1900
Victor

On 20 May 2021, at 16:22, "Brian Horridge via groups.io" <btinternet.com@groups.io target=_blank>brian.horridge=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Mike

I did try the Date Entry Assistant but was not sure if "est" was not supported or if it was and I had simply missed the relevant setting in the different tabs.  At least now I know I had not overlooked it.

I wanted an estimated date as I knew roughly when they left the school but not the exact date.  I've just put in the year now.

Thanks

Brian


On 20/05/2021 11:46, Mike Tate wrote:

Brian,

You can always determine what is valid by using the Date Entry Assistant.

i.e. Click on the […] button to the right of any Date field.

There you will discover that a Qualifier such as Estimated can only be applied to a simple Date and not Period or Range dates.

 

The fact that the first date is exact and the second date is just a year suggests it must be uncertain.

Any further clarification would need to go in the Source Citation or Notes.

 

Mike Tate

 


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Re: Estimated Date in Range

Robert
 

Brian,

You could go to gov.co.uk for 

School term and holiday dates

so if you know the year then that will give you the date at end of term.




On Thursday, May 20, 2021, 16:22, Brian Horridge via groups.io <brian.horridge@...> wrote:

Mike

I did try the Date Entry Assistant but was not sure if "est" was not supported or if it was and I had simply missed the relevant setting in the different tabs.  At least now I know I had not overlooked it.

I wanted an estimated date as I knew roughly when they left the school but not the exact date.  I've just put in the year now.

Thanks

Brian


On 20/05/2021 11:46, Mike Tate wrote:

Brian,

You can always determine what is valid by using the Date Entry Assistant.

i.e. Click on the […] button to the right of any Date field.

There you will discover that a Qualifier such as Estimated can only be applied to a simple Date and not Period or Range dates.

 

The fact that the first date is exact and the second date is just a year suggests it must be uncertain.

Any further clarification would need to go in the Source Citation or Notes.

 

Mike Tate

 


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Estimated Date in Range

Brian Horridge
 

Mike

I did try the Date Entry Assistant but was not sure if "est" was not supported or if it was and I had simply missed the relevant setting in the different tabs.  At least now I know I had not overlooked it.

I wanted an estimated date as I knew roughly when they left the school but not the exact date.  I've just put in the year now.

Thanks

Brian


On 20/05/2021 11:46, Mike Tate wrote:

Brian,

You can always determine what is valid by using the Date Entry Assistant.

i.e. Click on the […] button to the right of any Date field.

There you will discover that a Qualifier such as Estimated can only be applied to a simple Date and not Period or Range dates.

 

The fact that the first date is exact and the second date is just a year suggests it must be uncertain.

Any further clarification would need to go in the Source Citation or Notes.

 

Mike Tate

 


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Estimated Date in Range

Adrian Bruce
 

Good point about Sort Date - I'll have to bear that in mind because I know that there are a few occasions when I've twisted the dates a little bit to get them sorted correctly in v6. Finding such previously twisted dates is another matter!

GEDCOM v7 eh? Alas, we hardly knew you! 

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