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Relationship Report

1399ducksbury@...
 

In TMG, there was a report that listed all the relationship of a specified person, i.e. 1st cousin 2 cousin 3X removed, 4X great grandfather, etc. etc. I have looked all thru FH Ver 6 and can not seem to find anything.

Is there a comparable report in FH6?

Thanks Dave Browne


Re: Military Service

Mike Heseltine <noguru48@...>
 

Thanks to everyone for their response. Will be spending this wet Bank Holiday working out my strategy.

Mike Heseltine

On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 5:59 PM Sheila Bryant <sheila@...> wrote:
I can see that it might look like overkill, but I've found just using
the features I want/need and ignoring the rest works for me. I did
start to define new facts, but got in a right tangle and found I could
fit my guys into this framework. So far so good!

I too have volunteers/reservists who went on to join the "full"
service. In the past I've tended to view this as a form of  transfer -
again, so far it works for me.

I guess the key is finding what works for you and going with it!

On Sat, 1 May 2021 at 17:34, Adrian Bruce <abruce6155@...> wrote:
>
> It's very much a matter of preference but I found the Military History Fact Set to be rather too detailed for my family members - and for a One Name Study, I think that it would be overwhelming. Of course, you don't need to use all the fact types, you could just decide which you want to use and use Tools / Fact Types / Hide to hide the rest to avoid confusion.
>
> I would suggest that you need to use at least
>  - Military Service attribute, whose value is the name of each unit that someone served in, with appropriate dates;
>  - Campaign Medal attribute whose value is the name(s) of all(?) the campaign medals issued to this guy;
>  - Gallantry Medal attribute whose value is the name of a Gallantry Medal awarded - with the appropriate award date;
>
> You'd need to think what to do about Mentioned In Dispatches - I'd be inclined to put it in the Gallantry Medal attribute, rather than have its own attribute. The Silver War Badge is another oddity, perhaps. I'd be inclined to put that in a separate Campaign Medal attribute for each soldier, rather than in with the Campaign Medal attribute for the BWM and VM, simply because it's easier to work with.
>
> Military Service attribute - I record this at the battalion / battery / company level etc - whatever the basic unit is. Of course, at the start and end of his career, you might only know that they were in Training or the Reserve - you might not know a more detailed description. Most people will have several Military Service attributes.
>
> Whether you have separate events for demobbed and discharged is up to you - for my purposes I will normally enter the discharged date in the end date of the last Military Service attribute, while the demobbed date is just in the notes for a Military Service attribute. But if you want to run off a query listing these dates, then you really need to record them as events in their own right. I've never found the need to do that so I've never bothered recording them as their own events. This also avoids me getting mixed up over exactly what someone's start date actually is! (This is not a silly question - if someone joined up under the Derby Scheme as a volunteer, arguably they joined the Army at their date of volunteering, and then went home until they were mobilised... Which is the "start"?)
>
>
>



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Sheila






Re: Military Service

Sheila Bryant
 

I can see that it might look like overkill, but I've found just using
the features I want/need and ignoring the rest works for me. I did
start to define new facts, but got in a right tangle and found I could
fit my guys into this framework. So far so good!

I too have volunteers/reservists who went on to join the "full"
service. In the past I've tended to view this as a form of transfer -
again, so far it works for me.

I guess the key is finding what works for you and going with it!

On Sat, 1 May 2021 at 17:34, Adrian Bruce <abruce6155@gmail.com> wrote:

It's very much a matter of preference but I found the Military History Fact Set to be rather too detailed for my family members - and for a One Name Study, I think that it would be overwhelming. Of course, you don't need to use all the fact types, you could just decide which you want to use and use Tools / Fact Types / Hide to hide the rest to avoid confusion.

I would suggest that you need to use at least
- Military Service attribute, whose value is the name of each unit that someone served in, with appropriate dates;
- Campaign Medal attribute whose value is the name(s) of all(?) the campaign medals issued to this guy;
- Gallantry Medal attribute whose value is the name of a Gallantry Medal awarded - with the appropriate award date;

You'd need to think what to do about Mentioned In Dispatches - I'd be inclined to put it in the Gallantry Medal attribute, rather than have its own attribute. The Silver War Badge is another oddity, perhaps. I'd be inclined to put that in a separate Campaign Medal attribute for each soldier, rather than in with the Campaign Medal attribute for the BWM and VM, simply because it's easier to work with.

Military Service attribute - I record this at the battalion / battery / company level etc - whatever the basic unit is. Of course, at the start and end of his career, you might only know that they were in Training or the Reserve - you might not know a more detailed description. Most people will have several Military Service attributes.

Whether you have separate events for demobbed and discharged is up to you - for my purposes I will normally enter the discharged date in the end date of the last Military Service attribute, while the demobbed date is just in the notes for a Military Service attribute. But if you want to run off a query listing these dates, then you really need to record them as events in their own right. I've never found the need to do that so I've never bothered recording them as their own events. This also avoids me getting mixed up over exactly what someone's start date actually is! (This is not a silly question - if someone joined up under the Derby Scheme as a volunteer, arguably they joined the Army at their date of volunteering, and then went home until they were mobilised... Which is the "start"?)


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Sheila


Re: Military Service

Adrian Bruce
 

It's very much a matter of preference but I found the Military History Fact Set to be rather too detailed for my family members - and for a One Name Study, I think that it would be overwhelming. Of course, you don't need to use all the fact types, you could just decide which you want to use and use Tools / Fact Types / Hide to hide the rest to avoid confusion.

I would suggest that you need to use at least
 - Military Service attribute, whose value is the name of each unit that someone served in, with appropriate dates;
 - Campaign Medal attribute whose value is the name(s) of all(?) the campaign medals issued to this guy;
 - Gallantry Medal attribute whose value is the name of a Gallantry Medal awarded - with the appropriate award date;
 
You'd need to think what to do about Mentioned In Dispatches - I'd be inclined to put it in the Gallantry Medal attribute, rather than have its own attribute. The Silver War Badge is another oddity, perhaps. I'd be inclined to put that in a separate Campaign Medal attribute for each soldier, rather than in with the Campaign Medal attribute for the BWM and VM, simply because it's easier to work with.

Military Service attribute - I record this at the battalion / battery / company level etc - whatever the basic unit is. Of course, at the start and end of his career, you might only know that they were in Training or the Reserve - you might not know a more detailed description. Most people will have several Military Service attributes.

Whether you have separate events for demobbed and discharged is up to you - for my purposes I will normally enter the discharged date in the end date of the last Military Service attribute, while the demobbed date is just in the notes for a Military Service attribute. But if you want to run off a query listing these dates, then you really need to record them as events in their own right. I've never found the need to do that so I've never bothered recording them as their own events. This also avoids me getting mixed up over exactly what someone's start date actually is! (This is not a silly question - if someone joined up under the Derby Scheme as a volunteer, arguably they joined the Army at their date of volunteering, and then went home until they were mobilised... Which is the "start"?)



Re: Still struggling with mapping

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

You can do that on Google Maps as well. Right-click on the location you want to geocode and the co-ordinates will be at the top of the right click menu. Free.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of stephen.challis@...
Sent: 01 May 2021 12:43
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Still struggling with mapping

 

Memory map (https://memory-map.com/maps/) sell digital maps. If you hover your cursor over the place whose precise co-ordinates you want, they will be displayed on the screen. Easy! But not necessarily cheap.


Re: Still struggling with mapping

stephen.challis@...
 

Memory map (https://memory-map.com/maps/) sell digital maps. If you hover your cursor over the place whose precise co-ordinates you want, they will be displayed on the screen. Easy! But not necessarily cheap.

 

Stephen

 

 

Stephen Challis

Please reply to Stephen.Challis@...

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lorna Craig via groups.io
Sent: 01 May 2021 10:28
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Still struggling with mapping

 

As it is only about a dozen places which are not correctly mapped I would simply geocode them manually.  The simplest way is to click the Drag icon at the right hand end of the map toolbar, to enable manual movement of the markers on the map.    Then drag the incorrect markers to the right place.  Alternatively if you know the correct latitude and longitude coordinates you can enter these directly into the Place record.

 

Remember to use Tools>Preferences>Map window to ‘Block Refresh for Non-tentative Geocodes’ so that your manually set markers don’t get disrupted by any subsequent auto-geocoding.

 

Lorna

 

 

From: johnfirr via groups.io
Sent: 01 May 2021 07:09
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Still struggling with mapping



.....Its only about a dozen out of nearly 1000 places but it would be great to get it all properly aligned. Is there something I am missing?


Re: Still struggling with mapping

Adrian Bruce
 


On Sat, 1 May 2021 at 07:09, johnfirr via groups.io <johnfirr=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
... However when I look at the map all places window I still have about a dozen places that are showing in the wrong country so for example one entry which is down as : Tramere, Birkenhead, , England and standardised as Tranmere, , Merseyside, England is still showing in Australia....
 
Are you using the built-in Geocoder? I access this by selecting the place in the Places tab, then clicking the drop down arrow immediately by the side of the Map push-pin icon on the main toolbar. You can then choose "Map location of Tranmere...".  As Lorna indicates, if you have that option set (as you should, in my opinion) AND there is already a Lat & Long set for Tranmere, then nothing will happen if you just choose "Map location of Tranmere..."

What I would do is delete the Lat & Long on the Tranmere place-entry, and then choose "Map location of Tranmere..." It worked when I tried that and remapped correctly.

I know I had some oddities - I had places in Victoria (not Victoria, Australia, just Victoria, because it was pre-1901 and the formation of the Commonwealth of Australia) that I hadn't noticed had been mapped to Victoria in British Columbia. I added a modern "Standardized" for them but still needed to kick the previous values out in order to remap. I suspect that the built-in Geocoder / Mapper for FH has some oddities in the results it gives on the target server, such as Tranmere or Victoria, and a manual kicking for each is possibly the best way forward.

Adrian





Re: Military Service

Sheila Bryant
 

Have you looked at the Military History Fact Set? It's got oodles of
additional facts including Military Medal (and Gallantry Medal). If
not, might be worth checking it out - see
https://fhug.org.uk/kb/download/military-history-for-property-box-tab-3/


On Sat, 1 May 2021 at 10:06, Robert via groups.io
<lundr2001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I tend to put all of the individuals records in one folder, with the individuals FH ID. Say, for Thomas Lund [76], I have a folder: media\military\lund\Thomas Lund [76]. And, source records “1914-18 Thomas Lund [76] Attestation” etc.


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On Saturday, May 1, 2021, 08:56, Mike Heseltine <noguru48@gmail.com> wrote:

I am struggling to find a satisfactory way of citing Military Service and medals for the many Heseltines in my One Name Study who served in WW1.
Any suggestions?



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Sheila


Re: Still struggling with mapping

Lorna Craig
 

As it is only about a dozen places which are not correctly mapped I would simply geocode them manually.  The simplest way is to click the Drag icon at the right hand end of the map toolbar, to enable manual movement of the markers on the map.    Then drag the incorrect markers to the right place.  Alternatively if you know the correct latitude and longitude coordinates you can enter these directly into the Place record.

 

Remember to use Tools>Preferences>Map window to ‘Block Refresh for Non-tentative Geocodes’ so that your manually set markers don’t get disrupted by any subsequent auto-geocoding.

 

Lorna

 

 

From: johnfirr via groups.io
Sent: 01 May 2021 07:09
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Still struggling with mapping



.....Its only about a dozen out of nearly 1000 places but it would be great to get it all properly aligned. Is there something I am missing?



Re: Military Service

Robert
 

I tend to put all of the individuals records in one folder, with the individuals FH ID. Say, for Thomas Lund [76], I have a folder: media\military\lund\Thomas Lund [76]. And, source records “1914-18 Thomas Lund [76] Attestation” etc.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Saturday, May 1, 2021, 08:56, Mike Heseltine <noguru48@...> wrote:

I am struggling to find a satisfactory way of citing Military Service and medals for the many Heseltines in my One Name Study who served in WW1.
Any suggestions?


Re: Military Service

David Wilkinson
 

I created a custom facts for medal awards, military beginning, military ending and wounded. Coupled with the military service fact I found this enabled me to record everything and have appropriate sentences for the different events.

On 01/05/2021 08:56, Mike Heseltine wrote:
I am struggling to find a satisfactory way of citing Military Service and medals for the many Heseltines in my One Name Study who served in WW1.
Any suggestions?


Military Service

Mike Heseltine <noguru48@...>
 

I am struggling to find a satisfactory way of citing Military Service and medals for the many Heseltines in my One Name Study who served in WW1.
Any suggestions?


Re: Still struggling with mapping

johnfirr@...
 

Thanks Dave,
If it's just a case of it being as good as it can be I,m fine with that as it's still pretty impressive but just wanted to make sure it wasn't a result of lack of understanding on my part. 
Regards
John


Re: Still struggling with mapping

David Wilkinson
 

The mapping service FH provides is 'free' and whilst it correctly finds many places, it is far from 100% and we have to live with that. I sometimes wonder how on earth it can get it so wrong. It strikes that this service reads places from left to right, but if I was writing an algorithm to do it I would read it right to left, i.e. starting with the country. Like you my places were untidy (I have over 12,000) and I am slowly checking all my mappings and if I add a new I always check the geolocation before moving on.

On 01/05/2021 07:09, johnfirr via groups.io wrote:
Following a few previous posts I am gradually getting all my mapping sorted out as my place name record set was frankly a mess. I have now spent a couple of weeks doing a very careful tidy up. Everything is now in a four column set up so which I use as "district", "Town", "County", "Country". I always put the place as recorded in place and then as you would look for it today in the standardised box if that is different to the record.

All well and good and it is 99% there now. However when I look at the map all places window I still have about a dozen places that are showing in the wrong country so for example one entry which is down as : Tramere, Birkenhead, , England and standardised as Tranmere, , Merseyside, England is still showing in Australia. I have others which are clearly labelled as England showing in USA.

Its only about a dozen out of nearly 1000 places but it would be great to get it all properly aligned. Is there something I am missing?

regards
John Firr


Still struggling with mapping

johnfirr@...
 

Following a few previous posts I am gradually getting all my mapping sorted out as my place name record set was frankly a mess. I have now spent a couple of weeks doing a very careful tidy up. Everything is now in a four column set up so which I use as "district", "Town", "County", "Country". I always put the place as recorded in place and then as you would look for it today in the standardised box if that is different to the record.

All well and good and it is 99% there now. However when I look at the map all places window I still have about a dozen places that are showing in the wrong country so for example one entry which is down as : Tramere, Birkenhead, , England and standardised as Tranmere, , Merseyside, England is still showing in Australia. I have others which are clearly labelled as England showing in USA.

Its only about a dozen out of nearly 1000 places but it would be great to get it all properly aligned. Is there something I am missing?

regards
John Firr


Re: Diagrams of multiple trees

Mike Tate
 

Firstly, have you tried the Find Duplicate Individuals plugin?

That compares Individual’s names, facts, and close relatives and ranks their degree of compatibility.

 

To create a Diagram, start with the largest All Relatives Diagram, then use Diagram > Insert Diagram to add each of the 6 smaller trees one by one.

Once you have rearranged the trees to be near each other without overlapping, then use the Save Diagram to save as a Family Historian Chart.

That will keep all the trees in that arrangement when you re-open the Chart.

 

Mike Tate

 


Diagrams of multiple trees

Cathy Roberts
 

I am still using FH 6.2.7 and am wondering if there is an easy way to create a diagram of the (fairly small) trees of all the people I have so far collected, of one particular surname but not necessarily related.
It's not a one-name study but I thought it might help me see possible relationships I haven't yet been able to identify. There are 7 different groups of this particular name, mostly only 2 or three people in each, except the main collection which has 25+. Naturally (this is genealogy after all) the first names are frequently repeated, probably resulting in several duplicate individuals. Any advice would be much appreciated.
Cathy


Re: text from source print

Mike Tate
 

I’m unclear why this topic has started talking about images when it is focussed on wide Text From Source tables of text.

 


Re: text from source print

Victor Markham
 

I never re size any image when I add them to FH. When I do a narrative report and save them in RTF then again in Word. These images appear as a small size and I make them larger when in Word format. I load census images on to FH by rotating them so they appear in Word as a portrait format. In word I increase the size to cover the A4 page so the names are readable

Victor

On 22/04/2021 6:27 am, Geoffrey Knott wrote:

I don't know if this idea is of any interest, but before attaching an image of any document into FH, I re-size it so that is will fit onto A4 if I ever decide to print it.

On 21/04/2021 17:38, Edward Sneithe via groups.io wrote:
I have been using the text from source option in FH 7.0.3 and this is quite useful. Many of my census records are not the best quality so attaching an image is not as useful as I would like. This is a great reference tool. I was trying to get a print of the census record as I entered it but so far I have not been able to get a complete record on a page. I tried landscape and legal size paper but the complete record is not there. It runs off the end of a page.

Any way to get this printed?


Re: text from source print

Adrian Bruce
 

Always difficult for me to imagine stuff like this in my head, but I suspect that "fixing it" is non trivial. If you try to imagine creating an over-wide document in a Word Processor, there are all sorts of things that you can do, but no universal technique. I often turned that bit of the text into landscape mode and dropped the font size. And that assumes that there is a way of putting the whole "table" onto one sheet of paper anyway. If not... 

Adrian

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