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Re: Military Service

Robert
 

I tend to put all of the individuals records in one folder, with the individuals FH ID. Say, for Thomas Lund [76], I have a folder: media\military\lund\Thomas Lund [76]. And, source records “1914-18 Thomas Lund [76] Attestation” etc.


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On Saturday, May 1, 2021, 08:56, Mike Heseltine <noguru48@...> wrote:

I am struggling to find a satisfactory way of citing Military Service and medals for the many Heseltines in my One Name Study who served in WW1.
Any suggestions?


Re: Military Service

David Wilkinson
 

I created a custom facts for medal awards, military beginning, military ending and wounded. Coupled with the military service fact I found this enabled me to record everything and have appropriate sentences for the different events.

On 01/05/2021 08:56, Mike Heseltine wrote:
I am struggling to find a satisfactory way of citing Military Service and medals for the many Heseltines in my One Name Study who served in WW1.
Any suggestions?


Military Service

Mike Heseltine <noguru48@...>
 

I am struggling to find a satisfactory way of citing Military Service and medals for the many Heseltines in my One Name Study who served in WW1.
Any suggestions?


Re: Still struggling with mapping

johnfirr@...
 

Thanks Dave,
If it's just a case of it being as good as it can be I,m fine with that as it's still pretty impressive but just wanted to make sure it wasn't a result of lack of understanding on my part. 
Regards
John


Re: Still struggling with mapping

David Wilkinson
 

The mapping service FH provides is 'free' and whilst it correctly finds many places, it is far from 100% and we have to live with that. I sometimes wonder how on earth it can get it so wrong. It strikes that this service reads places from left to right, but if I was writing an algorithm to do it I would read it right to left, i.e. starting with the country. Like you my places were untidy (I have over 12,000) and I am slowly checking all my mappings and if I add a new I always check the geolocation before moving on.

On 01/05/2021 07:09, johnfirr via groups.io wrote:
Following a few previous posts I am gradually getting all my mapping sorted out as my place name record set was frankly a mess. I have now spent a couple of weeks doing a very careful tidy up. Everything is now in a four column set up so which I use as "district", "Town", "County", "Country". I always put the place as recorded in place and then as you would look for it today in the standardised box if that is different to the record.

All well and good and it is 99% there now. However when I look at the map all places window I still have about a dozen places that are showing in the wrong country so for example one entry which is down as : Tramere, Birkenhead, , England and standardised as Tranmere, , Merseyside, England is still showing in Australia. I have others which are clearly labelled as England showing in USA.

Its only about a dozen out of nearly 1000 places but it would be great to get it all properly aligned. Is there something I am missing?

regards
John Firr


Still struggling with mapping

johnfirr@...
 

Following a few previous posts I am gradually getting all my mapping sorted out as my place name record set was frankly a mess. I have now spent a couple of weeks doing a very careful tidy up. Everything is now in a four column set up so which I use as "district", "Town", "County", "Country". I always put the place as recorded in place and then as you would look for it today in the standardised box if that is different to the record.

All well and good and it is 99% there now. However when I look at the map all places window I still have about a dozen places that are showing in the wrong country so for example one entry which is down as : Tramere, Birkenhead, , England and standardised as Tranmere, , Merseyside, England is still showing in Australia. I have others which are clearly labelled as England showing in USA.

Its only about a dozen out of nearly 1000 places but it would be great to get it all properly aligned. Is there something I am missing?

regards
John Firr


Re: Diagrams of multiple trees

Mike Tate
 

Firstly, have you tried the Find Duplicate Individuals plugin?

That compares Individual’s names, facts, and close relatives and ranks their degree of compatibility.

 

To create a Diagram, start with the largest All Relatives Diagram, then use Diagram > Insert Diagram to add each of the 6 smaller trees one by one.

Once you have rearranged the trees to be near each other without overlapping, then use the Save Diagram to save as a Family Historian Chart.

That will keep all the trees in that arrangement when you re-open the Chart.

 

Mike Tate

 


Diagrams of multiple trees

Cathy Roberts
 

I am still using FH 6.2.7 and am wondering if there is an easy way to create a diagram of the (fairly small) trees of all the people I have so far collected, of one particular surname but not necessarily related.
It's not a one-name study but I thought it might help me see possible relationships I haven't yet been able to identify. There are 7 different groups of this particular name, mostly only 2 or three people in each, except the main collection which has 25+. Naturally (this is genealogy after all) the first names are frequently repeated, probably resulting in several duplicate individuals. Any advice would be much appreciated.
Cathy


Re: text from source print

Mike Tate
 

I’m unclear why this topic has started talking about images when it is focussed on wide Text From Source tables of text.

 


Re: text from source print

Victor Markham
 

I never re size any image when I add them to FH. When I do a narrative report and save them in RTF then again in Word. These images appear as a small size and I make them larger when in Word format. I load census images on to FH by rotating them so they appear in Word as a portrait format. In word I increase the size to cover the A4 page so the names are readable

Victor

On 22/04/2021 6:27 am, Geoffrey Knott wrote:

I don't know if this idea is of any interest, but before attaching an image of any document into FH, I re-size it so that is will fit onto A4 if I ever decide to print it.

On 21/04/2021 17:38, Edward Sneithe via groups.io wrote:
I have been using the text from source option in FH 7.0.3 and this is quite useful. Many of my census records are not the best quality so attaching an image is not as useful as I would like. This is a great reference tool. I was trying to get a print of the census record as I entered it but so far I have not been able to get a complete record on a page. I tried landscape and legal size paper but the complete record is not there. It runs off the end of a page.

Any way to get this printed?


Re: text from source print

Adrian Bruce
 

Always difficult for me to imagine stuff like this in my head, but I suspect that "fixing it" is non trivial. If you try to imagine creating an over-wide document in a Word Processor, there are all sorts of things that you can do, but no universal technique. I often turned that bit of the text into landscape mode and dropped the font size. And that assumes that there is a way of putting the whole "table" onto one sheet of paper anyway. If not... 

Adrian


Re: text from source print

Geoffrey Knott
 

I don't know if this idea is of any interest, but before attaching an image of any document into FH, I re-size it so that is will fit onto A4 if I ever decide to print it.

On 21/04/2021 17:38, Edward Sneithe via groups.io wrote:
I have been using the text from source option in FH 7.0.3 and this is quite useful. Many of my census records are not the best quality so attaching an image is not as useful as I would like. This is a great reference tool. I was trying to get a print of the census record as I entered it but so far I have not been able to get a complete record on a page. I tried landscape and legal size paper but the complete record is not there. It runs off the end of a page.

Any way to get this printed?


Re: text from source print

Edward Sneithe
 

Thank you Mike.

I'm sure CP will fix it at some point. In the meantime it is still a great tool


Re: text from source print

Mike Tate
 

Do you mean the Text From Source details are in a wide Rich Text Table that is too wide for the Report page?

That is a known problem for which there is no simple solution yet.

Using Ancestral Sources to capture the Census record has options that help but not much use for existing records.

I believe Calico Pie are aware of the problem but no solution yet.

 

Mike Tate

 

 


text from source print

Edward Sneithe
 

I have been using the text from source option in FH 7.0.3 and this is quite useful. Many of my census records are not the best quality so attaching an image is not as useful as I would like. This is a great reference tool. I was trying to get a print of the census record as I entered it but so far I have not been able to get a complete record on a page. I tried landscape and legal size paper but the complete record is not there. It runs off the end of a page.

Any way to get this printed?


Re: Problems using Facts page

Mike Tate
 

Rex,

Perhaps you are running FH v6.2.7 whereas I assumed you were using the latest FH v7.0.3

In either version of FH, to list Witnesses right-click any fact in the Facts tab and choose Show Witnesses.

There are no settings to change that affect Fact Witnesses.

Mike


Re: Problems using Facts page

Rexarino
 

Mike, you have answered all the questions I asked or implied, thanks. 
I do not see the List Of Shared Fact Witnesses by double clicking anywhere, but I suspect that a dive into settings might change what's displayed. I do see that the sentence for my entry for Graduation states that, "He was a Witness at Graduation of ----"  which really should have been a clue (a rather obvious one!) had I looked at it. And I see the triple-blue-ball in the More column, and thanks to you I know what it means. 
When I moved to Family Historian, I was both overwhelmed by it and highly motivated to enter data from the thousands of sources I was bequeathed by my wife's parents; I "inherited" suitcases and trunks and boxes of unsorted pictures and documents, thousands of items. I now find myself attempting to better understand FH, mostly because I subscribed to this list and have read so many eye-opening discussions from you and the other knowledgeable people posting here. I appreciate your gentle suggestions that I explore the help pages - you could have rightfully said, "Read the manual, idiot!" [Grin]

Wishing all on the list continued health and successful family searches,
Rex


On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 4:00 AM Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Rex,

There are a great many features in FH, and if you have not explored the Help pages or experimented with the Family Historian Sample Project, then some of them may be something of a mystery. Start with the Help > Quick Start Guide and follow the links at the end to get more advice.

 

Mostly, the re-ordering commands rely on the Facts having Dates otherwise there is very little to determine their order!

 

The blue arrow indicates a Shared Fact Witness, which I presume you must have added in TMG.

In this Graduation case, your wife is the Principal person and so her fact has a blue bullet, and you are the Shared Fact Witness.

For both entries, there is a triple-blue-ball icon in the More column to indicate the existence of a Shared Fact Witness.

If you double-click either entry it shows a list of each Shared Fact Witness and their Role.

I hope that explains why this Graduation fact is the only one of your wife’s facts that appear in your Facts tab.

 

Each Family record holds the relationship between the husband, wife and their children.

It also holds Facts that apply just to the couple such as Engagement, Marriage, Separation, and Divorce.

The Birth event of a Child is not held there but in the Individual record of the child, just like the Birth event of every other Individual.

Does that answer all your questions?

 

Mike

 



Re: Problems using Facts page

Mike Tate
 

Rex,

There are a great many features in FH, and if you have not explored the Help pages or experimented with the Family Historian Sample Project, then some of them may be something of a mystery. Start with the Help > Quick Start Guide and follow the links at the end to get more advice.

 

Mostly, the re-ordering commands rely on the Facts having Dates otherwise there is very little to determine their order!

 

The blue arrow indicates a Shared Fact Witness, which I presume you must have added in TMG.

In this Graduation case, your wife is the Principal person and so her fact has a blue bullet, and you are the Shared Fact Witness.

For both entries, there is a triple-blue-ball icon in the More column to indicate the existence of a Shared Fact Witness.

If you double-click either entry it shows a list of each Shared Fact Witness and their Role.

I hope that explains why this Graduation fact is the only one of your wife’s facts that appear in your Facts tab.

 

Each Family record holds the relationship between the husband, wife and their children.

It also holds Facts that apply just to the couple such as Engagement, Marriage, Separation, and Divorce.

The Birth event of a Child is not held there but in the Individual record of the child, just like the Birth event of every other Individual.

Does that answer all your questions?

 

Mike

 


Re: Problems using Facts page

Rexarino
 

Mike, that was a very thoughtful explanation! Thank you for indulging the lack of education of an obviously beginner level user. 

Regards,
Rex

My comments and answers are inline within your explanation

On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 2:06 AM Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Hi Rex,

You are using the correct commands to re-order facts.

The most comprehensive one is Tools > Re-order Out-of-Sequence Data… which should tell you what is being re-ordered and asking for your approval.

Are you sure you are agreeing to the re-ordering being suggested?

Yes, but I sometimes choose the "reorder all" when given the option rather than step through the individual data.

 

If your Birth event is a standard fact it should never be last because its Normal Time Frame precedes most other facts. I presume it has a Date.

Perhaps it is not a standard Birth event but a custom Birth fact imported from TMG. I can explain how to identify that if necessary.

I feel foolish to admit it, but I had never paid attention to the bullets or arrows preceding the facts and did not know their use or use them. 
By adding a date to an occupation fact, the birth entry (with a date) jumped to the correct place. Now the birth entry and occupation entry 
both have blue bullets, I'm not sure of the prior indicator. I have few entries with dates in my Facts tab, I guess I think my ancestors deserve 
my attention and overlooked my own entries.
With the timeline off, the graduation entry shows with a light blue arrow, which it seems is actually not my graduation, rather it's my wife's - 
which I found by clicking the arrow - which is a new revelation for today!  I did not know that was a navigation button! 
It seems there is quite a lot I don't know!

 

When new facts are added they initially get appended to the existing facts. It is necessary to use the re-ordering tools every time to put them into order.

Ah-ha! Thanks! 

 

A few facts, such as Marriage and Divorce, are Family facts held in the Family record opened by clicking the Married bar in the Focus Window.

They appear in both the husband and wife Individual Facts tab with a red bullet as opposed to the blue bullet for Individual facts.

The All tab shows the record contents as required by the GEDCOM specification. The Marriage event cannot appear in an Individual record.

Maybe you were unaware of the distinction between Individual records and Family records.

I know the distinction, but now I better understand it's use. Are there other Family Records? Is a child's birth a family record?

 

If the Graduation event is a standard event then it will show on the Individual record All tab.

Indeed it does after I've entered my 'own' graduation fact.

Does it have a blue bullet in the Facts tab? Are you sure it is not a custom fact imported from TMG?

The fact I originally asked about has a light blue arrow, and I discovered it is a fact from my wife's profile. However, it's the only fact that shows on my Facts tab 
from my wife's data when Timeline Facts is off. Is that normal? Why would that particular fact from my wife show on my facts tab?

 

The Timeline Facts for family members are switched on and off by the Show Timeline Facts button in the Facts tab toolbar below the list of Facts.

Timeline Facts have a grey bullet.

Another lesson I've learned (or re-learned) today, thank you!

 

After you have explored the concepts described above please ask any further questions you may have.

 

Mike Tate


Re: Migrating settings to another computer

waltonnz
 

Thank you Mike
Patricia

On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 at 21:09, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:
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