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Re: TMG Import and Log File Question

Mike Tate
 

Tami,

If you open the log file via Windows > Log Files then it is displayed in a separate Windows ‘Notepad’ application window.

That is completely independent of the FH windows.

If you wish you can use the Notepad window File > Save As… or File > Print… commands but should not be necessary.

 

BTW: Did you see the FHUG Knowledge Base advice on direct import from TMG?

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/importing-to-family-historian/

 


TMG Import and Log File Question

tami@...
 

I’ve done a direct import from TMG, and as expected it created a log file with conversion information.  I know how to view the log file from within FH, but I cannot figure out a way to print it or save it.  I want to do that so I can keep it open while checking out the data in FH.  Any suggestions?


Thanks,
Tami Bunkers-Dolan


Re: Display in Property Box

BillH
 

Kathleen,

You can't actually get it in the focus window.  What I show in my screen shot is having the property box docked next to the focus window.  In the property box is undocked, in the upper right hand corner you will see an icon like this:



If you click on it, the property box will dock next to the focus window and the icon will change to look like this:



Bill


Re: Display in Property Box

BillH
 

Kathleen,

I have a 23" monitor, but you should be able to do it on a smaller screen as well.

Those other two windows are not docked.  They are floating so you can position them where you want them.  This is what I did.

After you dock the property box on the right then resize the combined focus window and property box to make them take up just the left two thirds of your screen.
Then go to Tools > Preferences > Property Box and set "Preferred Position for Citation List Pane" to "Open in New Window".. Then display the Sources For box by clicking on the yellow scroll icon at the top right of the Property Box.  This will open the Sources For box.  Position the window to the right of the property box and then shorten it so it is only 1/2 it's original height. Then select a citation in the Citation List Pane and click on the icon that looks like a scroll with a pen at the bottom of the pane.  This will make the Citation List Pane open in a window.  Resize it the way you want it and move it under the Sources For pane.  

Just as an aside, it is much easier to discuss this kind of thing on the FHUG (Family Historian User Group) web site at https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/.  Many more people use it than this groups.io site.  Also you can post screen shots and they display right away rather than having to wait for them to be moderated.  

Bill


Re: Display in Property Box

Kathleen Cooper
 

Sorry, sent a previous reply that didn't make sense. I get that the Property Box needs to be docked and the Focus Window needs to be skinny to accommodate that on the right hand side. But how are the Source Box and Citation Box added to the right of those?

Are you using a wide screen, whereas I am on a 19-inch laptop? Could that be the problem? I don't see a way to dock those two to the right-hand side. 

Feeling dumb in SoCal...
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San Diego, California, USA


Re: Display in Property Box

BillH
 

Kathleen,

I replied with a couple screen shots which will cause that reply to be delayed until it is approved by the moderators.

I forgot to say also that I changed some settings in preferences also.  See my earlier to Chester,.  In particular to cause the property box to always be docked next to the focus window do the following:

Go to Tools > Preferences >  Workspaces and set "Preferred Position for Property Box" to "Docked". 

Bill


Re: Display in Property Box

Kathleen Cooper
 

How do you get the property box in the focus window?
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San Diego, California, USA


Re: Can't drag-and-drop media into source record following upgrade to 7.03

Robert
 

I had a reply from Calico Pie, “You actually only needed to restart Family Historian. The problem is after an upgrade FH is running in Admin mode and windows prevents dragging and dropping in to an admin level program from a normal level program.”

On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 07:32, Robert via groups.io <lundr2001@...> wrote:

Issue resolved by closing the the programme and restarting my computer.


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On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 07:14, Robert via groups.io <lundr2001@...> wrote:

I have just upgraded to v7.03, and have lost the ability to drag-and-drop media into a source record.


Re: Can't drag-and-drop media into source record following upgrade to 7.03

Robert
 

Issue resolved by closing the the programme and restarting my computer.


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On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 07:14, Robert via groups.io <lundr2001@...> wrote:

I have just upgraded to v7.03, and have lost the ability to drag-and-drop media into a source record.


Can't drag-and-drop media into source record following upgrade to 7.03

Robert
 

I have just upgraded to v7.03, and have lost the ability to drag-and-drop media into a source record.


Re: Exporting gedcom - date format

Mike Tate
 

There is definitely no option in the FH built-in Export > GEDCOM File... command to alter date formats.
As I said, the general reason is that most products only recognise GEDCOM Dates.
If non-GEDCOM Dates are imported to FH they become Date Phrases that need converting by a Plugin, which is a pain.

I think Quarter Dates are a largely UK phenomenon and so did not figure in the GEDCOM Specification.

It would be fairly easy to write a script for a Plugin or Notepad++ or many other tools to automate the translation from Between Date to Quarter Date.
There are only four relative rare cases to deal with if the 1st year can be wildcarded:
DATE BTW JAN 1867 AND MAR 1867 => DATE Q1 1867 i.e. replace DATE BTW JAN **** AND MAR with DATE Q1
DATE BTW APR 1867 AND JUN 1867 => DATE Q2 1867
DATE BTW JUL 1867 AND SEP 1867 => DATE Q3 1867
DATE BTW OCT 1867 AND DEC 1867 => DATE Q4 1867

There is a tiny risk that the 1st year might not be the same as the last year, but I suspect you could live with that.


Re: Exporting gedcom - date format

Ian Philpot
 

Hi Mike

Thank you for that - I suspected as much!

One reason for using the "Q" format is because it's much less bulky than the rather awkward "bet July 1867 and Sep 1867". This is useful in designing family trees where space is at a premium, which is usually the case! Secondly, it emphasises the fact that the date is from a registration index and may not represent the actual event date and needs to be updated where and when possible. The phrase "bet July 1867 and Sep 1867" may simply be wrong, but suggests it is correct!

I used to use Peditree, which I gave up on some years ago, but it did export the dates as they were input, including the quarterly format. I use TreeDraw to customise my family trees - and that accepts the quarterly format!

It looks as though I will need to modify the exported gedcom file before import into anything else.

In reply to Victor Markham, I don't use any GRO plug-in as I don't keep all my GRO data in Family Historian, just the dates and registration district when I have nothing more accurate. It appears that wouldn't solve my problem in any case!

Many thanks

Ian Philpot

On 08/04/2021 19:58, Mike Tate wrote:
Welcome Ian,
The FH display of Quarter Dates is just a superficial cosmetic display option.
See Tools > Preferences > General tab, Use quarter date display format.
If that is not ticked then the standard GEDCOM Date Range format is displayed such as "bet Jul 1867 and Sep 1867".
Regardless, of that tick option the actual Project GEDCOM file always uses the Date Range format.
So, any exported GEDCOM will also use that Date Range format.
Any product importing a GEDCOM will expect that format and won't recognize "Q3 1867" and I think that includes FH.
Why do you want the GEDCOM to use the Quarter Date format?

Mike Tate





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Re: Coloured boxes in family trees

Roger Evans
 

Lorna,  Thank you for your help -- I'll be trying that.    Roger


Re: Exporting gedcom - date format

Mike Tate
 

Welcome Ian,
The FH display of Quarter Dates is just a superficial cosmetic display option.
See Tools > Preferences > General tab, Use quarter date display format.
If that is not ticked then the standard GEDCOM Date Range format is displayed such as "bet Jul 1867 and Sep 1867".
Regardless, of that tick option the actual Project GEDCOM file always uses the Date Range format.
So, any exported GEDCOM will also use that Date Range format.
Any product importing a GEDCOM will expect that format and won't recognize "Q3 1867" and I think that includes FH.
Why do you want the GEDCOM to use the Quarter Date format?

Mike Tate


Re: Exporting gedcom - date format

Victor Markham
 

Do you use the GRO plug in to add this information

Victor

On 08/04/2021 4:51 pm, Ian Philpot via groups.io wrote:
I'm new to this list, so please forgive me if this topic has been covered before!

I store many of the BMD dates in Family Historian as, for example, "Q3 1867", being the date of registration in the third quarter of 1867. This is very often the most accurate date I have for the event. FH has no problem with that. However, on exporting a gecom file, this is always changed to "bet Jul 1867 and Sep 1867". It doesn't seem to matter which export format is used. Is there any way that I can get it to export the date as written, is "Q3 1867"? Strict gedcom conformance is not required.

Many thanks!

Ian Philpot


Exporting gedcom - date format

Ian Philpot
 

I'm new to this list, so please forgive me if this topic has been covered before!

I store many of the BMD dates in Family Historian as, for example, "Q3 1867", being the date of registration in the third quarter of 1867. This is very often the most accurate date I have for the event. FH has no problem with that. However, on exporting a gecom file, this is always changed to "bet Jul 1867 and Sep 1867". It doesn't seem to matter which export format is used. Is there any way that I can get it to export the date as written, is "Q3 1867"? Strict gedcom conformance is not required.

Many thanks!

Ian Philpot


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Re: Saving disgram to PDF

Mike Tate
 

Shane,

Have you seen the FHUG Knowledge Base advice on Running Family Historian on Crossover?

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/running-family-historian-on-crossover/

Under the cunningly named heading ‘Printing and PDF’ it gives some options.

 


Re: Saving disgram to PDF

ShaneB
 

Not a reply, but a supplementary question: how are those running FH under CrossOver and MacOS handling PDFs?

I can create a PDF by circuitous means, but it's a bit of a kludge.

TIA

Shane


Re: Saving disgram to PDF

Neil Grantham
 

John

In the case of default printer, just untick the box that prompts you to do so or if you didn’t, go to Control Panel > Devices and Printers, right click on your preferred printer and select Set as default

In terms of the reboot, it is often necessary to do so after installs/repairs/re-installs as the process will put files and libraries in place that can’t be recognised until that reboot is done.
As annoying as it can be, it is best to do it to avoid any odd program issues you might get if you don’t.

Best Wishes
Neil

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From: John Hanson
Sent: Apr 8, 2021 at 7:35 AM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Saving disgram to PDF

Lorna

Thanks – Ran the trouble-shooter on the PDF printer and it wants to make the PDF printer the default
Last thing I want! And I don’t want to keep changing the default printer

Checking the printers the FH PDF one wasn’t listed
So un-installed the printer from control panel (as recommended in the KB) and re-installed from the link there which still appears to be the current version of Nova
Works fine other than it wanting to get me to re-start my machine which is totally un-necessary and all now working
We will see how long for!

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Lorna Craig via groups.io
Sent: 07 April 2021 23:40
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Saving disgram to PDF

 

This error crops up very occasionally, although I have not heard of it occurring with V7.   The FHUG Knowledge Base has a reference to it in this page https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/family-historian-installation-problems/#ftoc-heading-12  in the paragraph headed "Save As PDF File Output is Not Enabled" .  It looks as if this page has not yet been updated for V7 but hopefully one of the suggestions will work.

Lorna

On 07/04/2021 22:58, John Hanson wrote:

I am trying to save a diagram to a PDF file in FH7 (something that I have rarely done) and I keep getting a message to say that “PDF file output is not enabled” and there is no help button to say “how to enable”

I have searched high and low on every menu I can find and cannot see anywhere that will enable me to save to the file

 

Am I missing the obvious?

 

 



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Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Re: Saving disgram to PDF

John Hanson
 

Lorna

Thanks – Ran the trouble-shooter on the PDF printer and it wants to make the PDF printer the default
Last thing I want! And I don’t want to keep changing the default printer

Checking the printers the FH PDF one wasn’t listed
So un-installed the printer from control panel (as recommended in the KB) and re-installed from the link there which still appears to be the current version of Nova
Works fine other than it wanting to get me to re-start my machine which is totally un-necessary and all now working
We will see how long for!

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Lorna Craig via groups.io
Sent: 07 April 2021 23:40
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Saving disgram to PDF

 

This error crops up very occasionally, although I have not heard of it occurring with V7.   The FHUG Knowledge Base has a reference to it in this page https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/family-historian-installation-problems/#ftoc-heading-12  in the paragraph headed "Save As PDF File Output is Not Enabled" .  It looks as if this page has not yet been updated for V7 but hopefully one of the suggestions will work.

Lorna

On 07/04/2021 22:58, John Hanson wrote:

I am trying to save a diagram to a PDF file in FH7 (something that I have rarely done) and I keep getting a message to say that “PDF file output is not enabled” and there is no help button to say “how to enable”

I have searched high and low on every menu I can find and cannot see anywhere that will enable me to save to the file

 

Am I missing the obvious?

 

 

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