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Re: Repeated Trojan Attempts tonight

Ian Thirlwell
 

From: Helen at Darlington
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 6:18 PM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Repeated Trojan Attempts tonight
 
This keep happening, and Family Historian 7 was the only program open, at least this last time. 
 
 
Helen


Re: Repeated Trojan Attempts tonight

rob.cook-genes@...
 

Please take the warning seriously - I also found a Trojan called Trojan.Kryptik.AQ. My malware program SpyHunter identified and removed it (April 1st)

 

It appeared that when I tried to close FH, it just hung. I had MyHeritage website open at the time, so I’m not sure the origin of the Trojan.

 

Best wishes

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Liddle, Backwell, North Somerset - "Where the cider apples grow" via groups.io
Sent: April 5, 2021 3:02 PM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Repeated Trojan Attempts tonight

 

Helen - I don't want to put a dampener on things, but I had the same Trojan warnings from Malwarebytes when using TMG rather than FH.

I ran a full scan with Norton and it found and removed a Trojan, since when, no more Malwarebytes messages.

You might care to consider a full virus sweep of your machine as a precaution.

Best wishes,


Re: Repeated Trojan Attempts tonight

John Liddle, Backwell, North Somerset - "Where the cider apples grow"
 

Helen - I don't want to put a dampener on things, but I had the same Trojan warnings from Malwarebytes when using TMG rather than FH.

I ran a full scan with Norton and it found and removed a Trojan, since when, no more Malwarebytes messages.

You might care to consider a full virus sweep of your machine as a precaution.

Best wishes,


Re: Media sources

Victor Markham
 

What I do.

If it is a BMD certificate I have set up a folder on my computer called 'certificates' followed by a sub folders for each of BMD. These foldwers are in FH Project folder

I save each certifcate and go to the person on FH which they refer to. I then use AS to add then into FH.

For photos of individuals. I save them in a folder under the appropriate surname with subfolder of the person. e.g. Smith sunfolder John Smith. Then on FH I go to the appropriate person and add the photo from the folder where they are saved.

I do the same for census under appropriate years

Victor

On 05/04/2021 12:21 pm, Lorna Craig via groups.io wrote:

It depends on the type of media. If it is an image of a source document, such as a birth/marriage/death certificate, you should create a source record for that document, possibly with a transcription of the text from source (not essential, but a good idea if the document is hard to read), and the source record can contain any relevant details about the repository, publication information or whatever else you feel is appropriate.  Then link the Media record to the Source record, and cite the Source against all the facts you can glean from it. 

If it is a photo of a person, linked direct to the individual's record, or a photo of an event, for example a wedding photo which you might link direct to the marriage event, the image itself is not a source but more of an 'illustration'.  In this case you might still want to record where you got the picture from (a family photo album, a facebook page, a newspaper) but I would put that information in the main Note field for the Media record.  (This is not the same as the note field which can be used as a caption).

Lorna

On 05/04/2021 11:34, Don McQuade via groups.io wrote:
Hi,

I am using V6.

I am familiar with adding media to my project but what is the correct way to record its source?

Am I right in assuming that you have to create a source for each media item, such as through the media link tool?

Thanks,

Don
_


Re: Media sources

Lorna Craig
 

It depends on the type of media. If it is an image of a source document, such as a birth/marriage/death certificate, you should create a source record for that document, possibly with a transcription of the text from source (not essential, but a good idea if the document is hard to read), and the source record can contain any relevant details about the repository, publication information or whatever else you feel is appropriate.  Then link the Media record to the Source record, and cite the Source against all the facts you can glean from it. 

If it is a photo of a person, linked direct to the individual's record, or a photo of an event, for example a wedding photo which you might link direct to the marriage event, the image itself is not a source but more of an 'illustration'.  In this case you might still want to record where you got the picture from (a family photo album, a facebook page, a newspaper) but I would put that information in the main Note field for the Media record.  (This is not the same as the note field which can be used as a caption).

Lorna

On 05/04/2021 11:34, Don McQuade via groups.io wrote:
Hi,

I am using V6.

I am familiar with adding media to my project but what is the correct way to record its source?

Am I right in assuming that you have to create a source for each media item, such as through the media link tool?

Thanks,

Don
_


Media sources

Don McQuade
 

Hi,

I am using V6.

I am familiar with adding media to my project but what is the correct way to record its source?

Am I right in assuming that you have to create a source for each media item, such as through the media link tool?

Thanks,

Don


Re: Descendant outline report

Randy Dykhuis
 

Thanks, Mike. Mystery solved. I found the errant notes under the Families tab of the Records window. As always you were a big help.


From: "Mike Tate" <post@...>
To: "family-historian@groups.io" <family-historian@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 2:04:45 PM
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Descendant outline report

I don’t think the abbreviation “dau.” can be changed.

 

Try using the FH Edit > Find… command to find that rogue text.

 

 



Re: Repeated Trojan Attempts tonight

Helen at Darlington
 

Thank you, all. I panicked a bit. Ian: Malwarebytes does do the occasional false positive, so thank you for that assurance. Maybe it was to do with Windows 10's dreadful search facility in the bottom left of the screen: I wouldn't mind getting rid of the useless thing! Like you, Adrian, I can no longer find my way around Windows!


Re: How to record an adoption

Neil Grantham
 

Thank you Lorna and David,


I have now added the adoptive parents and added the relationship.


Best Wishes


Neil.





------ Original Message ------
From: "Lorna Craig via groups.io" <l.m.craig@...>
To: family-historian@groups.io
Sent: Friday, 2 Apr, 2021 At 23:13
Subject: Re: [family-historian] How to record an adoption

You can add a second set of parents for the child, using surname 'X' as you suggest, until you discover their names. The relationship can be set to 'adopted' and you can use the standard Adoption event to record any known details and sources. Both sets of parents should be listed in reports, and when you produce a diagram you can choose which set of parents to display. For more details see this page in the FHUG Knowledge Base: https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/recording-children-with-foster-adoptive-parents/


Lorna


On 02/04/2021 22:23, Neil Grantham via groups.io wrote:

Hi all


Something new to me (recording an adoption), and I'd like advise/suggestions on how to record it in FH.


My grandfathers younger sister married and had 2 daughters, the second 3 months after her husband passed away.


There is a record of a third daughter, born 3 years later, bearing her married name, and her maiden name on the GRO record.

Family have stated who the father was - a married man with a family of his own.

My great aunt then emigrated with her daughters to Canada, but did not take the third daughter, who was adopted by her neighbours (surname known).

I have yet to find this families names, and have a rough idea of where they live, so it is an ongoing investigation.


My query is how to properly record in FH so that reports might show her adoption. Happy to use Mr and Mrs 'X' for now if necessary for adoptive parents.

I have recorded the birth with the birth parents at the moment, using the status 'Never Married'


Best Wishes


Neil.



--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Re: Repeated Trojan Attempts tonight

Adrian Bruce
 



On Sat, Apr 3, 2021, 17:05 Neil Grantham via groups.io <neil40=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

... I’m not convinced it’s genuine, although SearchApp.exe is part of Windows, the one mentioned looked to have a suspicious path.


The folders in Windows\SystemApps all have weird endings. Most of mine end with cw5n1h2txyewy which looks like it might be the last part of the folder name in the screen shot.

The days are long gone when I could find my way round \Windows !! 


Re: Repeated Trojan Attempts tonight

Neil Grantham
 

I also replied and it hasn’t come through yet - likely to be held if it had the image in it.

I’m not convinced it’s genuine, although SearchApp.exe is part of Windows, the one mentioned looked to have a suspicious path.

Best Wishes
Neil

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From: Ian Thirlwell via groups.io
Sent: Apr 3, 2021 at 4:53 PM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Repeated Trojan Attempts tonight

I already replied to this but my message doesn’t seem to have come through. The problem is mentioned on the Malwarebytes forum as a ‘'false positive” & should be fixed by updating your Malwarebytes.
Ian
 
From: Jane Taubman
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 11:44 AM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Repeated Trojan Attempts tonight
 
As you can see easily from your screen shot the program causing the problem is nothing to do with Family Historian and looks to be a Trojan located in your Windows folder.  Clicking on the blue link for Trojan should give you advice on what to do.

I recommend ensuring your Antivirus is fully upto date and do a full scan of your PC and if you still don't find the culprit contact the Malware Bytes support.


--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Re: Repeated Trojan Attempts tonight

Ian Thirlwell
 

I already replied to this but my message doesn’t seem to have come through. The problem is mentioned on the Malwarebytes forum as a ‘'false positive” & should be fixed by updating your Malwarebytes.
Ian
 

From: Jane Taubman
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 11:44 AM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Repeated Trojan Attempts tonight
 
As you can see easily from your screen shot the program causing the problem is nothing to do with Family Historian and looks to be a Trojan located in your Windows folder.  Clicking on the blue link for Trojan should give you advice on what to do.

I recommend ensuring your Antivirus is fully upto date and do a full scan of your PC and if you still don't find the culprit contact the Malware Bytes support.


Re: Repeated Trojan Attempts tonight

Jane Taubman
 

As you can see easily from your screen shot the program causing the problem is nothing to do with Family Historian and looks to be a Trojan located in your Windows folder.  Clicking on the blue link for Trojan should give you advice on what to do.

I recommend ensuring your Antivirus is fully upto date and do a full scan of your PC and if you still don't find the culprit contact the Malware Bytes support.


Repeated Trojan Attempts tonight

Helen at Darlington
 

This keep happening, and Family Historian 7 was the only program open, at least this last time. 


Helen


Re: How to record an adoption

Lorna Craig
 

You can add a second set of parents for the child, using surname 'X' as you suggest, until you discover their names.  The relationship can be set to 'adopted' and you can use the standard Adoption event to record any known details and sources. Both sets of parents should be listed in reports, and when you produce a diagram you can choose which set of parents to display.  For more details see this page in the FHUG Knowledge Base: https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/recording-children-with-foster-adoptive-parents/


Lorna


On 02/04/2021 22:23, Neil Grantham via groups.io wrote:

Hi all


Something new to me (recording an adoption), and I'd like advise/suggestions on how to record it in FH.


My grandfathers younger sister married and had 2 daughters, the second 3 months after her husband passed away.


There is a record of a third daughter, born 3 years later, bearing her married name, and her maiden name on the GRO record.

Family have stated who the father was - a married man with a family of his own.

My great aunt then emigrated with her daughters to Canada, but did not take the third daughter, who was adopted by her neighbours (surname known).

I have yet to find this families names, and have a rough idea of where they live, so it is an ongoing investigation.


My query is how to properly record in FH so that reports might show her adoption. Happy to use Mr and Mrs 'X' for now if necessary for adoptive parents.

I have recorded the birth with the birth parents at the moment, using the status 'Never Married'


Best Wishes


Neil.



Re: How to record an adoption

David Dewick
 

Hello Neil

 

Open the property screen for the 3rd daughter’s adoptive parents. You should see underneath the parents’ information the list of their children. To the immediate right of the date of birth of the children is a column headed Rel. An “a” in this column indicates an adopted child. If you have the child also recorded against her birth parents, you can use the Rel. field to record that they are her biological parents.

 

Alternatively, open the 3rd daughter’s property window and click on the All tab at the top.  Right click on the field “Parents family” and you will have an option to Add relationship In this way you can add her to both her birth and adoptive parents.

 

There is also and adoption event if you have details of a formal adoption.

 

Hope that helps

 

David

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Neil Grantham via groups.io
Sent: 02 April 2021 22:24
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] How to record an adoption

 

Hi all

 

Something new to me (recording an adoption), and I'd like advise/suggestions on how to record it in FH.

 

My grandfathers younger sister married and had 2 daughters, the second 3 months after her husband passed away.

 

There is a record of a third daughter, born 3 years later, bearing her married name, and her maiden name on the GRO record.

Family have stated who the father was - a married man with a family of his own.

My great aunt then emigrated with her daughters to Canada, but did not take the third daughter, who was adopted by her neighbours (surname known).

I have yet to find this families names, and have a rough idea of where they live, so it is an ongoing investigation.

 

My query is how to properly record in FH so that reports might show her adoption. Happy to use Mr and Mrs 'X' for now if necessary for adoptive parents.

I have recorded the birth with the birth parents at the moment, using the status 'Never Married'

 

Best Wishes

 

Neil.


--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


How to record an adoption

Neil Grantham
 

Hi all


Something new to me (recording an adoption), and I'd like advise/suggestions on how to record it in FH.


My grandfathers younger sister married and had 2 daughters, the second 3 months after her husband passed away.


There is a record of a third daughter, born 3 years later, bearing her married name, and her maiden name on the GRO record.

Family have stated who the father was - a married man with a family of his own.

My great aunt then emigrated with her daughters to Canada, but did not take the third daughter, who was adopted by her neighbours (surname known).

I have yet to find this families names, and have a rough idea of where they live, so it is an ongoing investigation.


My query is how to properly record in FH so that reports might show her adoption. Happy to use Mr and Mrs 'X' for now if necessary for adoptive parents.

I have recorded the birth with the birth parents at the moment, using the status 'Never Married'


Best Wishes


Neil.


--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Re: Descendant outline report

Mike Tate
 

I don’t think the abbreviation “dau.” can be changed.

 

Try using the FH Edit > Find… command to find that rogue text.

 

 


Descendant outline report

Randy Dykhuis
 

I'm using the descendant outline report & plan to distribute to my family. I notice that it uses abbreviations for some events, e.g. "marr" for "married" and "div" for "divorced". I've figured out how to force the report to use the full word rather than the abbreviation by editing in the fact definition window. The report also uses "dau." for "daughter" and I can't seem to figure out where that comes from. Can that be edited, too?

There is also a mystery phrase in the report. It's from my niece's wedding but I can't figure out where that sentence is coming from. I've checked the option to include "Event/Attr Notes" but I cannot find this particular sentence in the Notes window or anywhere in the property box for my niece. Any ideas where it might be pulling from in the report? It's not really a problem but I am curious where it's stored in FH and why it's showing up here.


Re: media %28jpg images%29 showing as icon

Jayne
 

Hello Everyone,
 
Just thought I would let you all know how I fixed the very complex problem I had with my images sometimes showing as the program icon. I went through my myriad of technical manuals, husband's toolbox and Google archives and . . . . shut down (instead of restarting) my computer and turned it back on . . Voila! Problem (whatever it was) was solved ha ha. I knew it was a resident gremlin and I wasn't really mad.

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