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Descendant outline report

Randy Dykhuis
 

I'm using the descendant outline report & plan to distribute to my family. I notice that it uses abbreviations for some events, e.g. "marr" for "married" and "div" for "divorced". I've figured out how to force the report to use the full word rather than the abbreviation by editing in the fact definition window. The report also uses "dau." for "daughter" and I can't seem to figure out where that comes from. Can that be edited, too?

There is also a mystery phrase in the report. It's from my niece's wedding but I can't figure out where that sentence is coming from. I've checked the option to include "Event/Attr Notes" but I cannot find this particular sentence in the Notes window or anywhere in the property box for my niece. Any ideas where it might be pulling from in the report? It's not really a problem but I am curious where it's stored in FH and why it's showing up here.


Re: media %28jpg images%29 showing as icon

Jayne
 

Hello Everyone,
 
Just thought I would let you all know how I fixed the very complex problem I had with my images sometimes showing as the program icon. I went through my myriad of technical manuals, husband's toolbox and Google archives and . . . . shut down (instead of restarting) my computer and turned it back on . . Voila! Problem (whatever it was) was solved ha ha. I knew it was a resident gremlin and I wasn't really mad.


Re: media %28jpg images%29 showing as icon

Jayne
 

Hello Everyone,
 
Just thought I would let you all know how I fixed the very complex problem I had with my images sometimes showing as the program icon. I went through my myriad of technical manuals, husband's toolbox and Google archives and . . . . shut down (instead of restarting) my computer and turned it back on . . Voila! Problem (whatever it was) was solved ha ha. I knew it was a resident gremlin and I wasn't really mad.


Re: Family Historian - Digest #457

Jayne
 

Dear Robert
 
Thanks for your input Robert, which is much appreciated. I understand your explanation but unfortunately this is not my problem. I can see all items in the window you refer to. If there are 2 images, one will show as a thumbnail of the actual image - which is correct, but the other, and this is my problem, shows an icon pertaining to the program that will open it. (corel paint shop)  When clicking on the icon it does indeed open the image in all it's glory in my editing program. However, if I right click the icon and choose "view record in property box" or "view in Workspace Media Window" the program icon shows, not the image or even a thumbnail of the image.  I checked the Exif information for my jpgs that don't work in case there is some sort of security but there is nothing and the same photo shows correctly in another FH link anyway, so I a totally stumped.  I have also noticed that when this happens, that the images which only show as a program icon in various places throughout FH, don't show at all in my reports, not even as an icon, or thumbnail. This is definitely a puzzle.
 
Jayne

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Re: Media (jpg images) showing as icon
From: Robert Jordan
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2021 00:20:19 PDT

 

Dear Inker

If I understand your problem correctly I have had the same issue. I have added an image to a source citation connected to a fact. However, in the fact, in the property box. no image icon appears against that fact.

If you highlight the fact and then click on the image icon at the bottom immediately under the list of facts a dialogue box will appear.. In the bottom right hand corner of the dialogue box are Check boxes to show Images from Source and/or image from Citation.

It seems FH occasionally gets it wrong and that dialogue box will be checked for Source images and not citation images. By checking the citation image in the dialogue box  you should now be able to see the image icon against the fact if you have added the image to the citation.

I think Calico Pie needs to look at this as it all seems to revolve around the new Citation box facility. The logic of editing a citation does seem a bit confusing as the steps one has to follow seem to be in the wrong order. which makes it easy to make a mistake.

In my opinion editing the Citation box should initially give you the option of editing the citation or the source. Having selected that everything else should follow That is any text, notes or images should relate to either the citation or the source. As it stands if one wishes to edit a citation to enter text and then an image one has to remember to go back to check the source/ Citation box  and that is easy to omit.

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 2a. 
Re: Missing photographs in .pdfs of trees
From: Victor Markham
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2021 00:59:05 PDT

I have never saved any diagrams as PDF file I always save them as JPEG file. It lists the number of pages ypou can select. I have saved one covering 16 pages and this appears tiny but using my mouse I make them bigger. I have never printed any though.

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Re: Missing photographs in .pdfs of trees
From: Neil Grantham
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2021 01:07:26 PDT

Victor


If you don't want to print it, the PDF option is a good one, as most people can access it via the free Adobe Acrobat Reader.

There is a nice option to fit it all to one page, so you can zoom and scroll all in one window without having to open (or even print) multiple jpg files


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Re: Entering Siblings with Unknown Parents
From: Peter Atkinson
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2021 02:28:19 PDT

 

I ve always entered the surname of the father, similar to Victor; simple.
The odds are on a marriage having taken place so dont enter a mothers surname.
When that wall is broken down the correct data can be entered.

Peter


 

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Re: Entering Siblings with Unknown Parents

Peter Atkinson
 

I ve always entered the surname of the father, similar to Victor; simple.
The odds are on a marriage having taken place so dont enter a mothers surname.
When that wall is broken down the correct data can be entered.

Peter


On Thu, 1 Apr 2021, 08:19 johnfirr via groups.io, <johnfirr=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks everyone it's only a simple issue but always helps to hear others perspective.
As always help on this forum much appreciated.
John


Re: Missing photographs in .pdfs of trees

Neil Grantham
 

Victor


If you don't want to print it, the PDF option is a good one, as most people can access it via the free Adobe Acrobat Reader.

There is a nice option to fit it all to one page, so you can zoom and scroll all in one window without having to open (or even print) multiple jpg files


Best Wishes


Neil.





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Subject: Re: [family-historian] Missing photographs in .pdfs of trees

I have never saved any diagrams as PDF file I always save them as JPEG file. It lists the number of pages ypou can select. I have saved one covering 16 pages and this appears tiny but using my mouse I make them bigger. I have never printed any though.

Victor

On 31/03/2021 10:27 pm, Ron Chapman wrote:
I too am having this problem. If I click on Diagram/Save Diagram As/PDF file (.pdf)... The Save as PDF File opens. The result is the same whichever option I choose. The Print box opens. The Printer is set at Family Historian PDF. I get the Family Historian PDF - Save PDF File As. At the top is this box highlighted in Red Family Historian Profile (Private Profile) The preview open without pictures in the boxes.

Alternatively
File/Print Select Family Historian PDF Printer. Straight to Family Historian PDF - Save PDF File As. At the top is this box highlighted in Red Family Historian Profile (Private Profile) The preview open without pictures in the boxes.
Ron

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Re: Missing photographs in .pdfs of trees

Victor Markham
 

I have never saved any diagrams as PDF file I always save them as JPEG file. It lists the number of pages ypou can select. I have saved one covering 16 pages and this appears tiny but using my mouse I make them bigger. I have never printed any though.

Victor

On 31/03/2021 10:27 pm, Ron Chapman wrote:
I too am having this problem. If I click on Diagram/Save Diagram As/PDF file (.pdf)... The Save as PDF File opens. The result is the same whichever option I choose. The Print box opens. The Printer is set at Family Historian PDF. I get the Family Historian PDF - Save PDF File As. At the top is this box highlighted in Red Family Historian Profile (Private Profile) The preview open without pictures in the boxes.

Alternatively
File/Print Select Family Historian PDF Printer. Straight to Family Historian PDF - Save PDF File As. At the top is this box highlighted in Red Family Historian Profile (Private Profile) The preview open without pictures in the boxes.
Ron


Re: Media (jpg images) showing as icon

Robert Jordan
 

Dear Inker

If I understand your problem correctly I have had the same issue. I have added an image to a source citation connected to a fact. However, in the fact, in the property box. no image icon appears against that fact.

If you highlight the fact and then click on the image icon at the bottom immediately under the list of facts a dialogue box will appear.. In the bottom right hand corner of the dialogue box are Check boxes to show Images from Source and/or image from Citation.

It seems FH occasionally gets it wrong and that dialogue box will be checked for Source images and not citation images. By checking the citation image in the dialogue box  you should now be able to see the image icon against the fact if you have added the image to the citation.

I think Calico Pie needs to look at this as it all seems to revolve around the new Citation box facility. The logic of editing a citation does seem a bit confusing as the steps one has to follow seem to be in the wrong order. which makes it easy to make a mistake.

In my opinion editing the Citation box should initially give you the option of editing the citation or the source. Having selected that everything else should follow That is any text, notes or images should relate to either the citation or the source. As it stands if one wishes to edit a citation to enter text and then an image one has to remember to go back to check the source/ Citation box  and that is easy to omit.

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Re: Entering Siblings with Unknown Parents

johnfirr@...
 

Thanks everyone it's only a simple issue but always helps to hear others perspective.
As always help on this forum much appreciated.
John


Media (jpg images) showing as icon

Jayne
 

I am using V7 and working my way through changing my generic sources to template-based and today I have hit a snag that is totally illogical to me and I cannot fathom what I am doing incorrectly.

On the media tab I have a list of images already in the file. I link the images on my hard drive through here to the FH file using the "file".  Then I link these media files through the property box, or in the source citation box to the relevant individual, or through the "add media to fact" in the property box. Everything has worked fine until today. In some cases, (not all) of the images I have linked, will only show as icons and not images. If I click on this icon it will load the full image into my editing program, no problem.  I cannot figure out why it is only showing an icon. I tried linking an image already working properly which I linked yesterday, but although that still shows the full photo in yesterday's link, the same image linked today will only show as an icon. I even tried saving a couple of images as pngs, but they still show only as an icon. Why would the same image linked in my media list only show as an icon in one link, but as an image in the other? Both paths are the same -it's a link to the same image. I am totally confused. Any ideas would be great thanks.


Re: Missing photographs in .pdfs of trees

Ron Chapman
 

I too am having this problem. If I click on Diagram/Save Diagram As/PDF file (.pdf)... The Save as PDF File opens. The result is the same whichever option I choose. The Print box opens. The Printer is set at Family Historian PDF. I get the Family Historian PDF - Save PDF File As. At the top is this box highlighted in Red Family Historian Profile (Private Profile) The preview open without pictures in the boxes.

Alternatively
File/Print Select Family Historian PDF Printer. Straight to Family Historian PDF - Save PDF File As. At the top is this box highlighted in Red Family Historian Profile (Private Profile) The preview open without pictures in the boxes.
Ron


Re: Entering Siblings with Unknown Parents

Brian Horridge
 

John

When I'm in the same situation as you, I've simply gone into the "Focus" window and selected the "Parents and Siblings" tab and there is an option towards the bottom to "Add Sibling".  It does create a Family without parents but you do not have to enter their details (unless you want to).

Brian


On 31/03/2021 19:15, johnfirr via groups.io wrote:
I have come across three parish burials in a small hamlet which are almost certainly three siblings. However although I am pretty confident that they are siblings I have no idea who the parents are. However it does not appear that FH will allow you to enter siblings without a parent ( I guess this is something to do with family groups) so the only way I can see to do it is to enter a dummy parent called unknown unknown ( if mother) or unknown surname ( if father)

Am I on the right track or is there a more elegant solution?

regards
John Firr

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Re: Entering Siblings with Unknown Parents

stephen.challis@...
 

A fascinating thought, Adrian. I wonder how many non-English speakers are currently trying to trace relatives of John Doe ….

 

 

Stephen Challis

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Subject: Re: [family-historian] Entering Siblings with Unknown Parents

 

 

 

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 19:15, johnfirr via groups.io <johnfirr=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

... However it does not appear that FH will allow you to enter siblings without a parent ( I guess this is something to do with family groups) so the only way I can see to do it is to enter a dummy parent called unknown unknown ( if mother) or unknown surname ( if father) ...

 

Some people take against this idea because they believe it to be misleading. I don't think I'm going to confuse myself by having someone called  "unknown unknown", so I don't have a problem with such a name.

 

It becomes more of a problem if you transfer the data to someone else - particularly if you cross a language boundary. Imagine trying to trace a German family with parents Herr and Frau Unbekannt if you didn't realise that Unbekannt meant Unknown....

 

Personally, I prefer to create a dummy person because I can add notes to that person saying what the current state of research is for them. Again, there are other ways of doing this.

 

Adrian

 

 


Re: Entering Siblings with Unknown Parents

Victor Markham
 

When I don't know the parents names. Let's say the surname of the child is Smith I put the fathers name as // Smith and mother's name as// (Smith)

Victor

On 31 Mar 2021, at 21:00, Adrian Bruce <abruce6155@...> wrote:


On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 19:15, johnfirr via groups.io <johnfirr= yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
... However it does not appear that FH will allow you to enter siblings without a parent ( I guess this is something to do with family groups) so the only way I can see to do it is to enter a dummy parent called unknown unknown ( if mother) or unknown surname ( if father) ...

Some people take against this idea because they believe it to be misleading. I don't think I'm going to confuse myself by having someone called  "unknown unknown", so I don't have a problem with such a name.

It becomes more of a problem if you transfer the data to someone else - particularly if you cross a language boundary. Imagine trying to trace a German family with parents Herr and Frau Unbekannt if you didn't realise that Unbekannt meant Unknown....

Personally, I prefer to create a dummy person because I can add notes to that person saying what the current state of research is for them. Again, there are other ways of doing this.

Adrian



Re: Entering Siblings with Unknown Parents

Adrian Bruce
 



On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 19:15, johnfirr via groups.io <johnfirr=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
... However it does not appear that FH will allow you to enter siblings without a parent ( I guess this is something to do with family groups) so the only way I can see to do it is to enter a dummy parent called unknown unknown ( if mother) or unknown surname ( if father) ...

Some people take against this idea because they believe it to be misleading. I don't think I'm going to confuse myself by having someone called  "unknown unknown", so I don't have a problem with such a name.

It becomes more of a problem if you transfer the data to someone else - particularly if you cross a language boundary. Imagine trying to trace a German family with parents Herr and Frau Unbekannt if you didn't realise that Unbekannt meant Unknown....

Personally, I prefer to create a dummy person because I can add notes to that person saying what the current state of research is for them. Again, there are other ways of doing this.

Adrian



Re: Entering Siblings with Unknown Parents

Mike Tate
 

It is possible on the Families tab of the Records Window to right-click and create an empty New Family record.

Then right-click that record and repeatedly use Add Child to link existing Individuals.

However, it is easier to add a temporary dummy parent and delete them after adding the children.

 


Entering Siblings with Unknown Parents

johnfirr@...
 

I have come across three parish burials in a small hamlet which are almost certainly three siblings. However although I am pretty confident that they are siblings I have no idea who the parents are. However it does not appear that FH will allow you to enter siblings without a parent ( I guess this is something to do with family groups) so the only way I can see to do it is to enter a dummy parent called unknown unknown ( if mother) or unknown surname ( if father)

Am I on the right track or is there a more elegant solution?

regards
John Firr


Re: Missing photographs in .pdfs of trees

Mike Tate
 

Yes, if you are in the habit of only letting your PC ‘Sleep’ or you ‘Shutdown’ and reboot then in Windows 10 things can stay broken.

A PC ‘Restart’ is a magic ‘cure all’ because it rebuilds most of your profile from scratch which those other modes do not.


Re: Missing photographs in .pdfs of trees

Sidney Katzen
 

Well, with guidance from Martin at Calico, I restarted my PC and voila, the photograph/icons appeared again!


Re: Missing photographs in .pdfs of trees

Neil Grantham
 

Works fine for me.


Make sure the Family Historian PDF printer is selected.

That said, Adobe Acrobat and MS PDF printers worked the same and created diagrams with images


Best Wishes


Neil.





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From: "Sidney Katzen" <sidney.katzen@...>
To: family-historian@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 31 Mar, 2021 At 10:30
Subject: [family-historian] Missing photographs in .pdfs of trees

Hello.
Has anyone noticed with the new .pdf setup, that picture-icons in trees have disappeared. The included photographs are there OK in .jpg versions. Prior to Version 7.03 there was no problem with trees, although of course, reports were a mess .

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Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.

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