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Re: tidy up

kiwipete
 

Thanks. Yes its going take ages to go over each entry and sort it. Luckily I can't go any place at the moment. I have merged all the phone numbers and will delete them. They are of no real use to me.


Re: Select Source Problem

Mike Tate
 

Hi Sue,

Open the Records Window and select the Sources tab.

Click the Source Records column heading and those [untitled] entries will appear at the top of the list.

 

Presumably, their Citations column will say 0 to indicate they are not used anywhere.

If that column is not 0 then perhaps they should not be deleted.

 

Select one [untitled] entry and press the keyboard Delete key or use Edit > Delete.

Repeat for the other entry.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sue Paul
Sent: 20 March 2020 06:49
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Select Source Problem

 

Good morning.

 

I have stupidly managed two blank (i.e. labelled "[untitled]")  entries in the "Source Records" list of the "Select source ..." pane that is displayed when you click on "Add Citation" and do not seem to be able to delete them or give them a name. Each has a record id but is otherwise blank.

 

Is it possible to delete them?

 

I realise that they are doing no harm but they annoy me.

 

Regards,

 

Sue 


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Select Source Problem

Sue Paul
 

Good morning.

I have stupidly managed two blank (i.e. labelled "[untitled]")  entries in the "Source Records" list of the "Select source ..." pane that is displayed when you click on "Add Citation" and do not seem to be able to delete them or give them a name. Each has a record id but is otherwise blank.

Is it possible to delete them?

I realise that they are doing no harm but they annoy me.

Regards,

Sue 


Re: tidy up

Mike Tate
 

Yes, assuming you did not enter that data, then it must have come from GEDCOM imported data.

It is very important immediately after a GEDCOM import to review the data before merging it with your master Project.

 

The FHUG Knowledge Base has advice for importing from many popular products identifying their peculiarities.

See https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:index#importing_to_family_historian

 

You will probably have to review each Place record, check where it is used, and adjust the data accordingly.

There is no magic app or plugin, because they would need some logical rules, and this data appears to be random.

 

There are no other data fields than the standard ones provided by FH based on the GEDCOM standard.

However, names like a bridegroom can be added as a spouse Individual record, bridesmaids as Fact Witnesses, etc.

Most other data may have to go into the Note field, perhaps as a Labelled Note custom fact field.

See the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Narrative Report Fact Sentence Templates ~ Custom Fact Fields:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:narrative_report_fact_sentence_templates#custom_fact_fields

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of kiwipete
Sent: 20 March 2020 03:46
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] tidy up

 

I decided today to tidy up my FH project and so I started with DATA - Places. What a mess, I assume this is something thats caused by importing other gedcom files.  I had Phone numbers, Bridegroom names, Flower girl etc etc. and the list goes on. Even marriage celebrants names in the place field.
I guess the only way to fix this is to setup a input field for each these and enter the names, OR add them to the notes field.

Any suggestions. I can see its going take weeks to sort, cause this is only the Place date so far. Is there a app or add on that sets up fields for such input...

regards Peter, Waiuku Auckland NZ
In isolation and doing family tree


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tidy up

kiwipete
 

I decided today to tidy up my FH project and so I started with DATA - Places. What a mess, I assume this is something thats caused by importing other gedcom files.  I had Phone numbers, Bridegroom names, Flower girl etc etc. and the list goes on. Even marriage celebrants names in the place field.
I guess the only way to fix this is to setup a input field for each these and enter the names, OR add them to the notes field.

Any suggestions. I can see its going take weeks to sort, cause this is only the Place date so far. Is there a app or add on that sets up fields for such input...

regards Peter, Waiuku Auckland NZ
In isolation and doing family tree


Re: searching for best documentation on making tree small

Peter Ham
 

Thanks so much!
I use FTM for synching with ancestry.com now.
I treat ancestry.com as the master for now.
I will experiment with the other way also.

On Mar 16, 2020, at 04:21, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:



There is a way of ‘synchronising’ FH with Ancestry by exporting the GEDCOM file to either Family Tree Maker or Roots Magic that offer tight synchronisation with Ancestry.

That way all updates are performed in FH as your master database and propagated out to FTM/RM and Ancestry.

If you are interested there is advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base and Forum discussion threads.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of peterrham@...
Sent: 16 March 2020 02:01
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] searching for best documentation on making tree small

 

… My main challenge is integrating with ancestry.com. So, i think that i will use more than one program. One to interface with ancestry.com and probably this one for family tree diagrams and this reporting which is also pretty good. Integrating with Lua for plugins is exciting. I'm probably won't get that far, but i'm a software engineer, so i might try!

Thanks so much!
Peter


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Re: searching for best documentation on making tree small

Mike Tate
 

There is a way of ‘synchronising’ FH with Ancestry by exporting the GEDCOM file to either Family Tree Maker or Roots Magic that offer tight synchronisation with Ancestry.

That way all updates are performed in FH as your master database and propagated out to FTM/RM and Ancestry.

If you are interested there is advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base and Forum discussion threads.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of peterrham@...
Sent: 16 March 2020 02:01
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] searching for best documentation on making tree small

 

… My main challenge is integrating with ancestry.com. So, i think that i will use more than one program. One to interface with ancestry.com and probably this one for family tree diagrams and this reporting which is also pretty good. Integrating with Lua for plugins is exciting. I'm probably won't get that far, but i'm a software engineer, so i might try!

Thanks so much!
Peter


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Re: searching for best documentation on making tree small

Trevor Rix
 

As your one page will be a pdf, that one page can be large, so is there a need to try to manipulate the people into a small area? A pdf can be zoomed in so legibility is not normally an issue.


Re: searching for best documentation on making tree small

Peter Ham
 

Thanks so much for the lightning fast responses. I do not want to interfere with anyone's weekend! This is becoming my hobby / obsession ....

For me, it's mostly the printing that i want to be on one page, so the pdf approach could work for me. 

I will take a look at the forum. Re-reading the documentation is helping me. I'm not sure how forum attachments work differently than this, but i  will take a look.

I think that the family historian smart tree is the key thing that is much better than the other programs that i have tried so far. The reporting is pretty good also. My main challenge is integrating with ancestry.com. So, i think that i will use more than one program. One to interface with ancestry.com and probably this one for family tree diagrams and this reporting which is also pretty good. Integrating with Lua for plugins is exciting. I'm probably won't get that far, but i'm a software engineer, so i might try!

Thanks so much!
Peter
 


Re: searching for best documentation on making tree small

Trevor Rix
 

@Peter

Do you wish for the one page to be printed on paper, or to be viewed as a pdf file on a computer?

Trevor


Re: searching for best documentation on making tree small

Mike Tate
 

In your previous posting, you said width was a problem.

Using the Movement Control Box and Box & Bar controls the lower rows can be moved right so they sit under the upper rows.

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of peterrham@...
Sent: 15 March 2020 20:07
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] searching for best documentation on making tree small

 

Here's my family tree that i'm testing with. I am playing games with the sibling ordering.


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Re: searching for best documentation on making tree small

Mike Tate
 

There are many features for adjusting Diagrams to fit onto a certain number of pages.

Take a look at the Diagram > Options and where many options can help.

General tab Orientation and Scaling

Print tab Orientation Portrait/Landscape

Dimensions tab minimum settings

 

The Diagram > Enable Moving/Resizing command opens the Movement Control Box that allows various adjustments.

See Getting the Most From Family Historian Chapter 9. Setting the Style, Layout & Content of Diagrams

 

The easiest way to print onto one page is Diagram > Save Diagram As > PDF File (.pdf) and accept default options.

There is much on that in the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Single Page PDF of a Diagram

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:creating_a_single_page_pdf_of_a_diagram

However, a large diagram with small text font may be illegible.

You may have to compromise with fewer Individuals included, or fewer details in each box, or accept that two or more pages are unavoidable.

 

If you could post some screenshots there may be some quick workarounds we can suggest.

Although these Emails allow images, it may be easier via the FHUG Forums.

 

It is quite a complex topic with lots to discover.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of peterrham@...
Sent: 15 March 2020 20:02
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] searching for best documentation on making tree small

 

Hi, i have read the manual and searched youtube for videos.

My diagram is too wide. Obviously, i want to minimize the number of pages (I want it to fit on one) and have the text within the boxes as legible as possible.

Right now, my chart is too wide. 

There are some rules that prevent things from overlapping. I'm not exactly sure what those rules are.

Can i break those rules?

Is there a command to scale it to fit into one page?

Thanks!
Peter


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Re: searching for best documentation on making tree small

Peter Ham
 

Here's my family tree that i'm testing with. I am playing games with the sibling ordering.


searching for best documentation on making tree small

Peter Ham
 

Hi, i have read the manual and searched youtube for videos.

My diagram is too wide. Obviously, i want to minimize the number of pages (I want it to fit on one) and have the text within the boxes as legible as possible.

Right now, my chart is too wide. 

There are some rules that prevent things from overlapping. I'm not exactly sure what those rules are.

Can i break those rules?

Is there a command to scale it to fit into one page?

Thanks!
Peter


Re: Can I vertically center text in a box?

Peter Ham
 

thanks!


Re: Error children

John Hanson
 

Whilst it shouldn’t have been changed it is always useful to check the preferences – Tools / Preferences

And make sure that the first box is checked

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 15 March 2020 11:21
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Error children

 

Pete,

If you have imported a GEDCOM or imported directly from another product then there is useful advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base.

Some advice is specific to the originating product, but other advice is generic and applies to most imports.

That advice includes the Show Project Statistics Plugin and checks for Uncategorised Data Fields (UDF) and unusual Date fields not handled by FH.

See the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Importing to Family Historian and follow all the tips:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:index#importing_to_family_historian

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Lorna Craig via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 March 2020 22:59
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Error children

 

When you first enter a birth date in FH it will warn you if the date is too early (or too late).  But if you have created a project by importing a Gedcom file which had been created elsewhere and it already contained those errors it will not issue a warning. 

However there is a Plugin written by Mike Tate called Show Project Statistics which can check for many kinds of errors and produces an exception report. It would pick up those impossible dates.

On 14/03/2020 22:31, kiwipete wrote:

Does FH not warn you when you have children that's birth date is earlier than the mothers birthdate.
Was working on my project this morning and found two CHILDREN who was born before the mother was??


Re: Can I vertically center text in a box?

Mike Tate
 

No, sorry, I don’t believe that is possible.

 

In my opinion, it would look somewhat untidy, because the name in each box may not always line up with the names in other boxes in the same generation (on the same row).

That is because for many Text Schemes different facts will appear for different people in different boxes.

If your Text Scheme always shows the same lines of data for every person, then try some of the Diagram > Layout & Scaling options that reduce the height of all boxes so the text fills the box and thus is central.

e.g.

Make All Boxes the Same Height

Select all the boxes by dragging cursor around them and use Make Selected Boxes the Same Height (min)

You may have to reduce the height of at least one box to get them all to shrink.

That will require the Diagram > Enable Moving/Resizing command to open Movement Control Box that enables box ‘handles’ to drag box size.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of peterrham@...
Sent: 14 March 2020 23:58
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Can I vertically center text in a box?

 

Thanks so much for the quick response!

Actually, i meant to ask if one of the "individual"/person boxes can be centered.
For example:

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Re: Error children

Mike Tate
 

Pete,

If you have imported a GEDCOM or imported directly from another product then there is useful advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base.

Some advice is specific to the originating product, but other advice is generic and applies to most imports.

That advice includes the Show Project Statistics Plugin and checks for Uncategorised Data Fields (UDF) and unusual Date fields not handled by FH.

See the FHUG Knowledge Base ~ Importing to Family Historian and follow all the tips:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:index#importing_to_family_historian

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Lorna Craig via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 March 2020 22:59
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Error children

 

When you first enter a birth date in FH it will warn you if the date is too early (or too late).  But if you have created a project by importing a Gedcom file which had been created elsewhere and it already contained those errors it will not issue a warning. 

However there is a Plugin written by Mike Tate called Show Project Statistics which can check for many kinds of errors and produces an exception report. It would pick up those impossible dates.

On 14/03/2020 22:31, kiwipete wrote:

Does FH not warn you when you have children that's birth date is earlier than the mothers birthdate.
Was working on my project this morning and found two CHILDREN who was born before the mother was??

_._,_._,_


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Re: Error children

Adrian Bruce
 

Shamefacedly - I'd forgotten that Date Warnings query was there. But be warned that neither the query nor the plug-in are built to cope with every possible circumstance. For instance, from possibly fallible memory, the checks on ages of parents don't distinguish between biological and step or adoptive parents where what's dubious for biological parents by date, can be perfectly fine for step-parents. 

I spent some time working with the plug-in and systematically checked each type of error, cleaning up quite a bit. After I had either cleaned up or effectively accepted all issues of that type, I then excluded that check from the plug-in's parameters and reran the checks. 

Please note that while it would be possible to upgrade the logic of the plug-in to cope with step and adoptive parents, that was just an example. In other cases, it's much more difficult to decide what the algorithm for checking ought to be, so please don't think that I'm criticising.


Re: Can I vertically center text in a box?

Mike Tate
 

No, sorry, I don’t believe that is possible.

 

In my opinion, it would look somewhat untidy, because the name in each box may not always line up with the names in other boxes in the same generation (on the same row).

That is because for many Text Schemes different facts will appear for different people in different boxes.

If your Text Scheme always shows the same lines of data for every person, then try some of the Diagram > Layout & Scaling options that reduce the height of all boxes so the text fills the box and thus is central.

e.g.

Make All Boxes the Same Height

Select all the boxes by dragging cursor around them and use Make Selected Boxes the Same Height (min)

You may have to reduce the height of at least one box to get them all to shrink.

That will require the Diagram > Enable Moving/Resizing command to open Movement Control Box that enables box ‘handles’ to drag box size.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of peterrham@...
Sent: 14 March 2020 23:58
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Can I vertically center text in a box?

 

Thanks so much for the quick response!

Actually, i meant to ask if one of the "individual"/person boxes can be centered.

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