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Re: Sources and linking media

Heather Williams
 

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly Mike. I will definitely read up about the different methods of adding sources and I will get back to you.

Just to explain how I got to this stage with so few birth sources, when I started my tree many years ago I learnt how to input enough data to create the family records and I always intended learning how to add sources but somehow time went on and I hadn't done that. Eventually I thjought I would add media and link photos etc. and I didn't have any problems. When I finally looked into sources, a long time ago now, I did consider using AS but at that time I think I was confused by what to put in which field and I decided I preferred to just carry on inputting everything person by person.

For the next few years I added a source when I had one (e.g. a certificate) and sometimes I just added a note to say where I had found a particular record or what the census reference was. Over the years I bought certificates and so much more information was made available over the Internet that could be downloaded so I started a tree on Ancestry with the idea I would only add people to that as I verified them and amassed the census entries etc. I am well aware I should have been adding sources as I went but I often felt truly overwhelmed.

I am pleased to find I hadn't gone completely wrong by having blanket sources for each census etc. I guess I must have read that from the instruction manual at the time. I will reserve final judgement until I have followed the link you sent me. It would be great if I didn't have to delete too much and could rescue my media/source lniks.

Thank you for your offer to help once I know more about sources.
Heather


Re: Count Records

Mike Tate
 

Hi Rob,

The number of rows in a Result Set is always shown in the bottom right border of Query Window as ‘Records in Result Set:’

 

The number of Individual records and Family records is always in the Focus and Records Window on the bottom right border.

 

For other types of records use File > File Statistics… which lists all the Record Counts.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of rob p
Sent: 26 February 2021 03:16
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Count Records

 

Is there an easy way to "count" the number of rows (records) in the Records Window (tabs) or in a Result Set?


Count Records

rob p
 

Is there an easy way to "count" the number of rows (records) in the Records Window (tabs) or in a Result Set?


Re: Custom ID

Kathy Bergman <kathy@...>
 

Thank you, Mike and Robert!


Re: Custom ID

Robert
 

Kathy - I haven’t used the Custom ID as a Tab. I just used it as an item in the Main Tab of the Individual Property Box, just beneath the Name item, so I could keep a check on what people I have on FamilySearch (LDS).

If you go to Customize Property Box, then send the Custom ID item across to the Selected Items column, then move it up or down to where you want it. (I moved mine to just below the Name item). Having done that, I double clicked the Custom ID item, which let me edit the label. I changed it to LDS ID:.

Robert

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On Thursday, February 25, 2021, 18:34, Kathy Bergman <kathy@...> wrote:

Robert - I've been trying to do with with "Military."  I have found the Custom ID box, but when I choose a new tab, give it the name Military, it tells me:  "Only tabs that can be customized are listed" -- and none show up.  How did you get yours to create?  I must be missing an important step....


Re: Custom ID

Mike Tate
 

Hi Kathy,

The first step is to use the Property Box cog Menu > Customize Property Box… command.

Then use More Tab Tasks… and New Tab… where you can create the Military tab.

There you must untick ‘Show most commonly-used items’ and add <Custom Item> that can use %INDI.REFN% for the Custom Id field.

Presumably, you will be adding many more fields than that to the Military tab otherwise it is not worth creating a tab for one field.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Kathy Bergman
Sent: 25 February 2021 18:34
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Custom ID

 

Robert - I've been trying to do with with "Military."  I have found the Custom ID box, but when I choose a new tab, give it the name Military, it tells me:  "Only tabs that can be customized are listed" -- and none show up.  How did you get yours to create?  I must be missing an important step....


Re: Custom ID

Kathy Bergman <kathy@...>
 

Robert - I've been trying to do with with "Military."  I have found the Custom ID box, but when I choose a new tab, give it the name Military, it tells me:  "Only tabs that can be customized are listed" -- and none show up.  How did you get yours to create?  I must be missing an important step....


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Julia Brotherton
 

Unfortunately Wiltshire Libraries only allows one to access Ancestry records for Wiltshire. Although we live here our ancestors did not so it is not much help Julia


-----Original Message-----
From: Gill <gill@...>
To: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 12:46
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

Victor,
My Library has a link on their website which allows one to access the Library edition of Ancestry from home while we are all locked up. Perhaps yours will too. You do, of course, have to be a library member.
Gill
 
 
 
From: Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 25 February 2021 12:12
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount
 
I have used the library a number of times taking my lap top to save downloads. They have been closed since lock down started. Just need to see what happens when they reopen.
Victor
On 25/02/2021 10:05 am, Alsatia wrote:
An alternative is to use Ancestry from your local library.  Library membership is free and so is access to Ancestry which is available online with all the usual search facilties.  I use Libraries West which is a number of libraries with a central online link through which Ancestry provide what they call a library edition.  This covers worldwide but with the facilty to build your own family tree on the site.  You can however access other peoples trees.  Other areas may have a different deal.

Clive
On 24/02/2021 21:00, Sue Herrington wrote:
I've been using the discount for at least the last 3years. As Trevor says, make sure you are logged in.
 
Sue in Notts 
 
On Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 20:52 Paul Reeve, <pg.reevegroups@...> wrote:
Hmmm. It no longer seems to work as the subscriptions it has come up with today are for 1 month (£13.99) or 6 months - not 12 - £69.99. I'm sure it worked a couple of weeks ago as I made a diary note to deal with it (my sub expires next week).

Paul
 
 


Re: Custom ID

Robert
 

Thank you Mike!

On Thursday, February 25, 2021, 12:20, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Yes, on the Property Box cog Menu choose Options… instead of Customize Property Box...

Click the Captions… button and in the Individual template add LDS: %INDI.REFN%

 

If you don’t want LDS: shown when there is no Custom Id value then use:

=CombineText(“LDS: “,%INDI.REFN%,,)

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert via groups.io
Sent: 25 February 2021 11:47
To: Family Historian Groups.io Mailing List <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Custom ID

 

I’ve managed to use the Custom ID in the Individual Property Box, and renamed it as ‘LDS ID’.  Although it takes a whole line up, it works well. I was wondering whether it could be moved up to the Captions bar alongside the Individual ID?

 


Re: Sources and linking media

Mike Tate
 

Hi Heather,

One thing did strike me as odd.

You say you have 7489 Individuals and presumably they were all born.

Yet your Birth source has only 152 Citations and not 7489?

 

Anyway, you need to make some crucial decisions about how to rationalise your Source Citations.

 

It seems you have correctly linked photos of people to the Individual record Media tab.

 

Now you need to decide where to link the Media images of documents and other Source Citation details.

The question they need to answer is “How do I know this fact happened to this person on this date in this place?”

e.g. How do I know the birth of John Smith happened on 1st April 1900 in London?

 

Also, what about the other information on say a Birth Certificate such as the parents’ names, addresses and occupations.

Do you want to add Citations for those facts as well?

 

One option is to add those Media images and other details to each Citation.

That is what many FH users call Method 2 ‘lumped’ Source Citations.

 

The other option is to create a separate Source for each document and Titled to describe that document.

Then the Media image, a transcript, references numbers, etc, can all be added to that Source record.

The Citations would simply link each derived fact to that Source record but contain very little information.

That is what many FH users call Method 1 ‘splitter’ Source Citations.

 

There is a companion program called Ancestral Sources that streamlines the creation of Source Citations.

 

The FHUG Knowledge base has advice for ‘Citing Sources: Method 1 and Method 2’

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/citing-sources-method-1-and-method-2/

I suggest you study the options and decide what path to take.

Then we can advise how best to follow that path.

 

Mike Tate

 


Sources and linking media

Heather Williams
 

Hi,

I hardly know where to begin as I have found I am in a complete muddle with sources. I am embarrassed to say I have been using Family Historian from the very beginning but have never got to grips with all the functions, some of which seem rather techie. I am now in a position to make sure my tree is in a fit state to pass on to family members but I find I have made some mistakes in entering sources and I can't work out how to rectify that.

I have FHv6 and basically I have used the programme like a database and I have 2290 families and 7489 individuals. Over the years I have added media and can do that ok and link faces on photos etc. I have also added sources BUT I made one general source for each census and events such as "birth", "marriage" and "death". Every time I entered a birth. for example, I added it from the source list and did not make a new source for each individual. This means I now have 152 citations under "birth".

I didn't hit a snag until I decided it was time to link all my media to the sources for everyone. All seemed ok until I checked on the show media link within the source pane and it showed the very last media I had linked in that category and not the media for that person. The media tab itself on the record does contain all the correct media.

Is there any hope of me correcting this or do I have to delete all my sources? I am not sure I can start again. I know I have to go through and unlink all the wrong media and I am not sure how to do that either. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Heather


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Gill
 

Victor,

My Library has a link on their website which allows one to access the Library edition of Ancestry from home while we are all locked up. Perhaps yours will too. You do, of course, have to be a library member.

Gill

 

 

 

From: Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 25 February 2021 12:12
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Ancestry subscription discount

 

I have used the library a number of times taking my lap top to save downloads. They have been closed since lock down started. Just need to see what happens when they reopen.

Victor

On 25/02/2021 10:05 am, Alsatia wrote:

An alternative is to use Ancestry from your local library.  Library membership is free and so is access to Ancestry which is available online with all the usual search facilties.  I use Libraries West which is a number of libraries with a central online link through which Ancestry provide what they call a library edition.  This covers worldwide but with the facilty to build your own family tree on the site.  You can however access other peoples trees.  Other areas may have a different deal.

Clive

On 24/02/2021 21:00, Sue Herrington wrote:

I've been using the discount for at least the last 3years. As Trevor says, make sure you are logged in.

 

Sue in Notts 

 

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 20:52 Paul Reeve, <pg.reevegroups@...> wrote:

Hmmm. It no longer seems to work as the subscriptions it has come up with today are for 1 month (£13.99) or 6 months - not 12 - £69.99. I'm sure it worked a couple of weeks ago as I made a diary note to deal with it (my sub expires next week).

Paul

 

 


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Julia Vokes
 

Sadly this is not available online everywhere.  It depends on your local library service having the relevant subscription.  Where I live in West Sussex the library edition is not available online as the county council, in their wisdom, cancelled the subscription last year.  Maybe other parts of the country are luckier.

Julia


On 25 Feb 2021, at 13:18, Alsatia <cliveandann@...> wrote:

 Ancestry have made the library edition available online which you can access with online access to your library services.

Clive

On 25/02/2021 12:12, Victor Markham via groups.io wrote:

I have used the library a number of times taking my lap top to save downloads. They have been closed since lock down started. Just need to see what happens when they reopen.

Victor

On 25/02/2021 10:05 am, Alsatia wrote:
An alternative is to use Ancestry from your local library.  Library membership is free and so is access to Ancestry which is available online with all the usual search facilties.  I use Libraries West which is a number of libraries with a central online link through which Ancestry provide what they call a library edition.  This covers worldwide but with the facilty to build your own family tree on the site.  You can however access other peoples trees.  Other areas may have a different deal.

Clive

On 24/02/2021 21:00, Sue Herrington wrote:
I've been using the discount for at least the last 3years. As Trevor says, make sure you are logged in.

Sue in Notts 

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 20:52 Paul Reeve, <pg.reevegroups@...> wrote:
Hmmm. It no longer seems to work as the subscriptions it has come up with today are for 1 month (£13.99) or 6 months - not 12 - £69.99. I'm sure it worked a couple of weeks ago as I made a diary note to deal with it (my sub expires next week).

Paul



locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Alsatia
 

Ancestry have made the library edition available online which you can access with online access to your library services.

Clive

On 25/02/2021 12:12, Victor Markham via groups.io wrote:

I have used the library a number of times taking my lap top to save downloads. They have been closed since lock down started. Just need to see what happens when they reopen.

Victor

On 25/02/2021 10:05 am, Alsatia wrote:
An alternative is to use Ancestry from your local library.  Library membership is free and so is access to Ancestry which is available online with all the usual search facilties.  I use Libraries West which is a number of libraries with a central online link through which Ancestry provide what they call a library edition.  This covers worldwide but with the facilty to build your own family tree on the site.  You can however access other peoples trees.  Other areas may have a different deal.

Clive

On 24/02/2021 21:00, Sue Herrington wrote:
I've been using the discount for at least the last 3years. As Trevor says, make sure you are logged in.

Sue in Notts 

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 20:52 Paul Reeve, <pg.reevegroups@...> wrote:
Hmmm. It no longer seems to work as the subscriptions it has come up with today are for 1 month (£13.99) or 6 months - not 12 - £69.99. I'm sure it worked a couple of weeks ago as I made a diary note to deal with it (my sub expires next week).

Paul



Re: Custom ID

Mike Tate
 

Yes, on the Property Box cog Menu choose Options… instead of Customize Property Box...

Click the Captions… button and in the Individual template add LDS: %INDI.REFN%

 

If you don’t want LDS: shown when there is no Custom Id value then use:

=CombineText(“LDS: “,%INDI.REFN%,,)

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert via groups.io
Sent: 25 February 2021 11:47
To: Family Historian Groups.io Mailing List <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Custom ID

 

I’ve managed to use the Custom ID in the Individual Property Box, and renamed it as ‘LDS ID’.  Although it takes a whole line up, it works well. I was wondering whether it could be moved up to the Captions bar alongside the Individual ID?

 


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Victor Markham
 

I have used the library a number of times taking my lap top to save downloads. They have been closed since lock down started. Just need to see what happens when they reopen.

Victor

On 25/02/2021 10:05 am, Alsatia wrote:
An alternative is to use Ancestry from your local library.  Library membership is free and so is access to Ancestry which is available online with all the usual search facilties.  I use Libraries West which is a number of libraries with a central online link through which Ancestry provide what they call a library edition.  This covers worldwide but with the facilty to build your own family tree on the site.  You can however access other peoples trees.  Other areas may have a different deal.

Clive

On 24/02/2021 21:00, Sue Herrington wrote:
I've been using the discount for at least the last 3years. As Trevor says, make sure you are logged in.

Sue in Notts 

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 20:52 Paul Reeve, <pg.reevegroups@...> wrote:
Hmmm. It no longer seems to work as the subscriptions it has come up with today are for 1 month (£13.99) or 6 months - not 12 - £69.99. I'm sure it worked a couple of weeks ago as I made a diary note to deal with it (my sub expires next week).

Paul


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Alsatia
 

An alternative is to use Ancestry from your local library.  Library membership is free and so is access to Ancestry which is available online with all the usual search facilties.  I use Libraries West which is a number of libraries with a central online link through which Ancestry provide what they call a library edition.  This covers worldwide but with the facilty to build your own family tree on the site.  You can however access other peoples trees.  Other areas may have a different deal.

Clive

On 24/02/2021 21:00, Sue Herrington wrote:
I've been using the discount for at least the last 3years. As Trevor says, make sure you are logged in.

Sue in Notts 

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 20:52 Paul Reeve, <pg.reevegroups@...> wrote:
Hmmm. It no longer seems to work as the subscriptions it has come up with today are for 1 month (£13.99) or 6 months - not 12 - £69.99. I'm sure it worked a couple of weeks ago as I made a diary note to deal with it (my sub expires next week).

Paul


Custom ID

Robert
 

I’ve managed to use the Custom ID in the Individual Property Box, and renamed it as ‘LDS ID’.  Although it takes a whole line up, it works well. I was wondering whether it could be moved up to the Captions bar alongside the Individual ID?


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Paul Reeve
 

Thank you all, I will cancel anyway - I currently have access to the library edition , presumably until 12th April, so can live without being subscribed for a couple of weeks!

Paul


locked Re: Ancestry subscription discount

Sue Herrington
 

You'll retain the access appropriate for your subscription until 3rd March. 

Sue

On Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 08:47 Victor Markham via groups.io, <victor=markham.me.uk@groups.io> wrote:

OK have cancelled let's see what happens now.

Just had confirmation of cancellation, from 3 March. I can still enjoy the free features

Victor

On 25/02/2021 8:34 am, Sue Herrington wrote:
Just say it's too expensive,  it's not a big deal. Any sensible business wants to know why they might be losing a customer. 

Sue

On Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 08:21 Victor Markham via groups.io, <victor=markham.me.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Andrew

Thought it might be that.

I have had a look and it asdks for reasons, with a list, for leaving.

Perhaps I will remove the world wide part and get the payment reduced

Victor

On 24/02/2021 9:34 pm, Andrew Braid wrote:
Victor

Just cancel it. Don't delete your account.

Andrew 

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 21:27 Victor Markham via groups.io <victor=markham.me.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I have world wide memberhip and it is due to be renewed next week at £179.99 for the year. I have had this for years

To get the discount do I cancel  or delete the account?

Victor

On 24/02/2021 9:10 pm, Andrew Braid wrote:
I don't think you will see the discount until after your existing subscription has expired.

I seem to remember when I did it I had renewed with the discount within 15 minutes of my subscription expiring. 

Also, if you renew at the basic level you will get offers later to upgrade at a discount. I think this took a few weeks.

Andrew Braid 

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 20:52 Paul Reeve <pg.reevegroups@...> wrote:
Hmmm. It no longer seems to work as the subscriptions it has come up with today are for 1 month (£13.99) or 6 months - not 12 - £69.99. I'm sure it worked a couple of weeks ago as I made a diary note to deal with it (my sub expires next week).

Paul

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